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== Talkback == == December music ==
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November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in ]. There are two composers on the Main page today, ] and ]. I find the response of my friend ] to a question on Copland's article talk promising. What do you think? -- ] (]) 08:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)


On the Main page today ] on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's ] from the ]. We ] today. --] (]) 21:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Listen today to the (new) ]. - Congratulations to being elected! Could you look at ] and tell me if you miss something in his infobox? --] (]) 10:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
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Listen today to ]'s 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the ] when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with ], because he was on my ] this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --] (]) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
== Opinion ==


I come to fix the cellist's name, with ] and new pics - look for red birds --] (]) 20:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
<strike>In my opinion, this person has not remained ]. Do you agree?
They called my comment "stupid"
They told me to "keep off their talk page."
If I am wrong, sorry. ''']''' '']'' 17:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)</strike> Your input is no longer needed, the issue has been resolved. I used ] to resolve the dispute. ''']''' '']'' 17:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
:You modified a page which consisted of ] advice for people who wanted to be administrators. The information you added was contentious and you were in no place to do so. Please remember to ]. Failure to do so causes problems as you have just seen. In addition, Kudpung did not call your comment stupid.<tt> </tt>] ] ] 17:16, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
::First of all, I was jut trying to help, in no way trying to cause a dispute, which makes you contradict Nev's comment on Kudpungs talk page which said that they were not trying to accuse me of having malicious intentions. Secondly, I do not believe that Kudpung assumed good faith and therefore it was impossible for me to assume to assume good faith. Kudpung did call my comment stupid. May I quote from the edit summary "Replying to '''stupid''' comment." Thank you. ''']''' '']'' 17:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
:::First, the fact that you should not have made the edit does not mean that I think you had malicious intentions. Ok, I guess I missed the edit summary; however, I agree with Kudpung. A comment of "]", especially in the light of the essay I cited in my previous comment, does nothing to help the encyclopedia and can '''only''' escalate matters.<tt> </tt>] ] ] 17:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
::::I have a reply to this comment, but I do not want a lengthy discussion over a silly mistake. Thank you, the discussion has now ended. ''']''' '']'' 17:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
{{od}} Hey Puffin, I'm sorry I missed this. From the looks of things, you started off in the wrong and over-reacted, but didn't let the whole sitation escalate and when you saw consensus was against you, you backed down. I'd say you handled it rather well over all. If you want to discuss why I think you started off wrong, what you missed there, then let me know, but I'll leave it too because as you say it was just "a silly mistake". ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 09:00, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


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What is the purpose of a bot that is not automated? Is there any different from a user controlling a bot which uses AWB and a user using AWB themselves? On a similar note, why don't all bots run constantly?<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 04:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
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:That's an interesting lot of questions, and I'm probably not the best person to answer them for you - I expect you'll get a better response chatting to someone more familiar with bot policies, I know ] has been looking into bot's recently, but anyone who hangs around ] should be able to help.
:What I do know is from an incident recently regarding ]. As I understand it, a bot that is not automated is not a bot. There is no difference between a user controlling a bot using AWB and a user using AWB. However, you can (if approved) set up a bot with no editorial oversight to run completely automated using AWB. It must be approved though.
:As for why don't all bots run constantly, well, many run from a person's computer and so they will only run when turned on. Also, some work by downloading database dumps, doing analysis and then running based on that - it's not a constant situation. ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 09:35, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


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== Establishing notability ==
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Hi Worm! :)

I have a question, could you please have a look at this ] I'm working on, and tell me if I'm on the right track in establishing this persons notability...it's knowhere near completed, but I plan on completing it soon, with more sources. Thanks :) -- ] <sup>]</sup> 13:09, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
:It's not exactly the sort of topic I'd consider "encyclopedic" but you're doing a great job. Carry on like that, especially with decent sources, and even I wouldn't be able to disagree with his notability! Good luck :) ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 13:13, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
::Made my day. Thank You very much Worm! :) -- ] <sup>]</sup> 13:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

== RfA ==

Do you think it might be a better idea to either merge/add your ] into ], hor to move it to ] ? I'm getting the impression that some people and newcomers to the project might not be aware of the extensive research and discussion we have made already on this, and won't look at it in connection with your proposal. --] (]) 23:56, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
:Shouldn't it then be added to ]? The project page seems to be for data only.<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 00:41, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:I did think about moving it, but as Ryan says, I think this is more a proposal on it's own, I link heavily to the data within my proposal, but they're piped, so I might change it to make it more obvious. ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 07:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

== Pre-RFA proposal ==

I have drafted my idea for a Pre-RFA ]. Care to take a look and help me expand it before I show the rest of the task force?<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 01:14, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:Have you gotten a chance to look at this?<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 14:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, I've had a look, but I want to dedicate a decent amount of time to helping you sort it out / coming up with some decent comments and suggestions. As all I've had is small snippets of time, I've just sort of... left it for now. I've got two free evenings this coming week, and I should be able to have a good look then :) ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 14:17, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

== ] ==

Thanks for updating this table with the missing data. I admit I'm not very good at this sort of thing. One of the things we also cannot show are the X-tools edit count on the day of transclusion if the RfA was SNOWED before the stats for the day had been gathered, and it happened before I creted the table. I now try to update this table regularly on a new-RfA basis and recover the count for the day if had not been posted to the RfA tp. --] (]) 11:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:If you aren't able to get the results using X!'s edit counter, try using . Put in the person's username and tell it to analyze all edits, then scroll your cursor over the graph to the date of their RFA.<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 13:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
::No problems, as it helped my proposal :D - Ryan's idea is pretty good too, Wikichecker does have past information, when it works! ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 08:55, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

== Citation Needed ==

Hi, do you know a link for where i can find a list of all articles with citation needed tags?
Thanks <span style="background:#000">]</span>] 14:37, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:] and] are both areas that need more citations. ] is the specific category you are looking for. If you enjoy adding citations to articles, consider joining ].<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 14:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
::I even managed to answer without moving my <s>lips</s> fingers :) Ryan's exactly right - hope that answers everything! ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 14:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

:::Thank both of you very much.
:::Worm i just looked into Misplaced Pages's help pages on COIN (Conflict of interest) and suggest you add it to your adoption school since it seems an important one to miss out.
:::What do you think?
:::Thanks again <span style="background:#000">]</span>] 11:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
::::I agree it's an important point, one I find myself constantly telling people about on the IRC help desk, but I must say that my adoptees thusfar haven't have COI issues. I'll probably add it as an additional lesson if/when I take on an adoptee with that specific issue. In my experience, the majority of CoI combines with ], so they don't generally want to be adopted! ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 11:13, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

:::::I agree, i had personal run-ins with a certain someone who i felt was biased and accused of such so i could have done with knowing about COIN, not that would have made any real difference, it just would have helped to know about it i feel.
:::::Thanks <span style="background:#000">]</span>] 12:21, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

== More template help ==

I have tried just about everything to make {{t|wikify}} have parameters to explain what is wrong. You can see from the history at ] that I have run out of ideas. I would like for there to be parameters such as |html |lead |sections |infobox. When the parameters are in place, the template would read something like "An editor has specified issues to be with the html markup" or "An editor has specified issues to be with the lead and infobox". Any ideas?<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 06:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:There's a few ways you can do this. Something like the {{tl|Multiple issues}} template would be the obvious way. It's not easy though, - there's lots of lines of code, and you'd probably want to create the sub-template too, so that it can be displayed properly. The other options is to have un-named parameters, which just render directly, however that leads itself to problems as there's no validation and someone could come along with "An editor has specified issues to be with GAAAAAYYYYYY!!!! LOLZ!!!1!!!!1!1!" ... and all sorts of other ] problems. ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 07:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

== Redirect ==

Hello Worm!
I was just asking, would you be able to tell me, or in fact please do something about this red-link (])...this page has been deleted several times, ages ago, but now it needs to be used as a redirect to this article (]) as "Zyzz" is his most notable name, and there is references on his article to corroborate that he was most notably known as Zyzz.
The issue is, is that the red-link has been protect by an Administrator (?) and can't be made. Thankyou! -- ] <sup>]</sup> 14:25, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:{{ec}}Your wish is my command! Well done for doing such a good job with a very difficult topic. ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 14:32, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:Thankyou! -- ] <sup>]</sup> 14:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

== Online Ambassadors: Time to join pods ==

Hello! If you're planning to be an active Online Ambassador for the upcoming academic term, now is the time to join one or more pods. (A pod consists of the instructor, the Campus Ambassadors, and the Online Ambassadors for single class.) The ] (MOU) explains the expectations for being part of a pod as an Online Ambassador. (The ] is essentially the same.) In short, the role of Online Ambassadors this term consists of:
*Working closely with the instructor and Campus Ambassadors, providing advice and perspective as an experienced Wikipedian
*Helping students who ask for it (or helping them to find the help they need)
*Watching out for the class as a whole
*Helping students to get community feedback on their work

This replaces the 1-on-1 mentoring role for Online Ambassadors that we had in previous terms; rather than being responsible for individual students (some of whom don't want or help or are unresponsive), Online Ambassadors will be there to help whichever students in their class(es) ask for help.

You can browse the upcoming courses here: ]; ]. More are being added as new pods become active and create their course pages.

Once you've found a class that you want to work with&mdash;especially if you some interest or expertise in the topic area&mdash;you should sign the MOU listing for that class and get in touch with the instructor. We're hoping to have at least two Online Ambassadors per pod, and more for the larger classes.

If you're up for supporting any kind of class and would like me to assign you to a pod in need of more Online Ambassadors, just let me know.

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== Page protection -- Urgent ==

Worm! ] needs a page protection from Ips! Take a look at the history section...I'm still reverting...they won't stop! -- ] <sup>]</sup> 03:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

:184.44.149.60, which seems to have been the main problem, has now been blocked by Elockid, who has also semi-protected the page. Given that it's around 4:30am where Worm lives right now, ] might have been a better place to go (or even ] or ]). --] (]) 03:35, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
::Sorry, usually I would have manners, by saying "please" and "thank you" in my comments above, but the Ip's just kept on bringing in the vandalism...and I didn't have time to use manners, or even go to ] or ]. Sorry for the trouble and thank you :) -- ] <sup>]</sup> 03:40, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

:::No worries. An important piece of advice is to stay calm in a situation like this. It's great to do the first revert of an obviously-BLP-infringing vandalism so fast, but once it's gone on for a while, then whether the time between the eighth and ninth reverts is thirty seconds or ten minutes, doesn't really matter very much. (Unless it's an election candidate the day of an election, or something.) Remember that, if you're sure the IP is completely in the wrong, then there's no way they can "win" just by clicking their mouse faster and faster - they are inevitably going to lose. Arranging for that to happen is something that can take five or ten minutes, so there's really no problem with going away and making a drink or a snack then coming back to do it (and often someone else will have dealt with it in the meantime, which is all the better.) --] (]) 04:14, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

== Can you check the rationale for an image I uploaded. ==

I uploaded ] a while ago and an editor has challenged the fair use rationale. Could you look at it and tell me what you think?<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 01:31, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
:On a side note, the image I showed you way back in the adoption program ] is up for deletion now.<tt> </tt>]&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 01:35, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

== note ==

I just wanted to let you know that ] is now a GA. Thank you for your suggestions. I am now working on ]. ''']''' '']'' 16:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

==TWINKLE Preferences==
Hey WTT, long time, no see...how are things? You removed your post before I could respond. If you can remove the access to the vandalism button, please do. That would make everyone happy. Much appreciated. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 08:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)</small>
:Just seen your edit summary, so scratch the above. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 08:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)</small>
::Hey Neutralhomer, all's well thanks. I spotted your situation, thought it was easy to fix, and then realised it wasn't! I'm having a look now, but I'm not sure if there's "per feature" turn off. I'll let you know if I can do it or not... ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 08:45, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Good to hear all is well. :) Let me know, either way, what you find out. Thanks! :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 08:48, 23 August 2011 (UTC)</small>
::::Hey, I just cleared TWINKLE from my .js file. It's not worth the trouble. I do, though, appreciate your help on this. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 09:30, 23 August 2011 (UTC)</small>

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For helping with the TWINKLE issue, I hereby award you this barnstar. Thank you for your help. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 09:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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<big>Have a great Christmas, and may 2025 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!</big>
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<big>Cheers</big>
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:Thank you :) just a pity it didn't work! ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 09:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
::No worries. Thanks for your help though. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 09:33, 23 August 2011 (UTC)</small>

== opinion ==

Dear Dave,

please allow me to voice an opinion, which perhaps
was not asked for, regarding the conflict with KW.

I think you have to decide whether you pursue
this matter as an administrator or as an offended
individual. If the former, please remember
(cf ]) that administrators
should lead by example, and strive to resolve
conflicts in a fast and peaceful manner,
rather than resuscitate old conflicts. I am confident
that in this case the best solution is to drop the
matter completely and consider the conflict long
resolved. This would give an example of good
judgement for all the involved parties.

If the latter, perhaps you should emphasise (and
reemphasise) this. Then at least you will not erode
the status of admin-ship, which is mainly based on
the faith most editors have (I hope) in the good
judgement of admin-s.

Best regards,
] (]) 15:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

:Hi Sodin/Sasha. Thanks a lot for coming to me to discuss this. I'm sure you've noticed that I've not been an administrator very long, and as such I'm certainly not reviewing his edits as "an admin" - that is, I have no intention to use administrator tools in this regard.
:Furthermore, I'm not an offended individual. Nothing Kiefer has said to me has offended me in any way. That said, I have seen a pattern of edits which I believe show a level of disruption to the project, which if unchecked will cause larger issues in the future. I've tried to deal with this in a few different methods, but have found that whilst KW is willing to work on issues in the past, he does not appear as responsive now. As such, I believe the only remaining recourse is an RfC.
:I'm curious to know why you believe we have an ongoing conflict though. To the best of my knowledge, my history with Kiefer is a discussion when one of my mentees PRODed a redirect, which was amicable. A discussion at my RfA, where he supported me. I admonished him when he went over 3RR, and although he did not take it very well, we drew a line under it. Finally, at ANI, where KW was upset with my comments, and the current RfC that I'm in the process of drawing up. I'm not involved in any topics that he edits, I also believe I'm objective regarding him personally as we've not had any disputes. ]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;(]) 16:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

::Hi Dave!
::You did suggest using your administrator tools to delete the draft RfC/U on me, from your workspace. Since Sasha has hinted at ], let me state my concern that you first email a copy of the page before doing any deleting and second that you ask another administrator to do the deletion (presumably after obtaining my consent and the consent of future contributors to that page).
::I am tired of harassment by DU100 and your behavior is becoming harassment. I told you I was tired of responding to criticisms at ANI and asked for 2 months of break. I volunteered to have private discussions, but you said no. So you drafted an RfC in workspace, and asked for my feedback only a few weeks later. Then I replied, stating that it was not serious, and then you complained that I was treating it like an RfC, and announced that you want to delete the draft RfC. Now you want to do a real RfC.
::This kind of repetitive ANI/RfCdraft/RfC filing is exactly what I asked you to avoid. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">].]</span></small> 16:35, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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December music

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November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in music. There are two composers on the Main page today, Siegfried Thiele and Aaron Copland. I find the response of my friend Jerome Kohl to a question on Copland's article talk promising. What do you think? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. - Congratulations to being elected! Could you look at Samuel Barber and tell me if you miss something in his infobox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

2025 Arbitration Committee

The Arbitration Committee welcomes the following new and returning members following their election by the community. Their two-year terms formally begin on 1 January 2025:

The one-year terms of these members also begin on 1 January 2025:

Upon meeting the Wikimedia Foundation's criteria for access to non-public personal data and signing its corresponding confidentiality agreement, all incoming members will be subscribed to all Committee-managed email lists, assigned the CheckUser and Oversight permissions for use in office, and given access to the CheckUser and Oversight queues on the VRT system.

We also thank our outgoing colleagues, whose terms end on 31 December 2024:

Outgoing members are eligible to retain the CheckUser and Oversight permissions, to remain active on cases accepted before their term ended, and to remain subscribed to the functionaries' and arbitration clerks' mailing lists following their terms on the Arbitration Committee. To that effect:

  • Stewards are requested to remove the permission(s) noted from the following outgoing members, who have not chosen to retain them, after 31 December 2024:
    CheckUser: Firefly, L235
    Oversight: Firefly, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees
  • Outgoing members are eligible to remain active on cases opened before their term ended if they wish. That will be noted on the proposed decision talk page of affected case(s).
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On behalf of the Committee, Sdrqaz (talk) 02:44, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § 2025 Arbitration Committee
congratulations. Crafterstar (talk) 19:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!

Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2025! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!


Have a great Christmas, and may 2025 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!

Cheers

SchroCat (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)