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| I seem to remember that you were interested in Bayesian probability. There's a new book on the subject, , which looks like it might be interesting. I haven't read it myself, but thought I'd pass it on in case you're looking for summer reading. Cheers. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 18:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :I remember seeing that in '''' last month. It certainly sounds very interesting. I'll check it out once I finish ]. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 20:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::I haven't read that one yet, but several of my colleagues enjoyed it. There's so much bad writing about medicine out there, so it's worth looking for good stuff. Atul Gawande is my favorite - or rather, I hate him because I'm jealous of how well he writes. :) ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 00:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::Both Gawande and Mukherjee are quite excellent. I only managed to get through about 70% of the book before I had to give it back to the library, but I think I should get another copy and finish it. It was very interesting to read for me, as all I know about cancer is the little I learned when friends and relatives were diagnosed, but I think even you who must know so much about the subject will enjoy (re)learning the history of cancer treatment.<p>I've read ''Better'' and ''Complications'' by Gawande, both of which were excellent, but I haven't picked up ''The Checklist Manifesto'' yet. Have you read it? '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 01:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::No. Mostly, I've read his pieces in the ''New Yorker''. The ones about national health care and overutilization were particularly good. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 02:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Those are pretty good, but I remember reading about some issues with his in particular. I'm going back and rereading it now. The Mayo Clinic definitely has extremely good health care and low costs, but they in 2009. I imagine they didn't just go from a large number of Medicare patients to none in just three years; perhaps they had previous been accepting Medicare patients in a partially pro bono fashion? The rest of that article does seem very convincing though. I'll have to read that paper by Elliott Fisher that Dr. Gawande mentions. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 15:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::. I wonder if he is right about . I hope so, but growing up in a post-Reagan era has undoubtedly made me cynical of government, even for the Crazy Liberal that I mostly am. I'll have to go back to these pieces if and when I'm disappointed in 2012 and 2013 by all three branches of the federal government. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 16:24, 31 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I agree about the overutilization piece. His presentation of the Mayo folks as the shining example of altruistic medicine actually kind of pissed me off, because he didn't acknowledge the realities you allude to. The Mayo Clinic has more money than God. They can sit back and pontificate about the way things ''should'' be done, because they aren't subject to the same financial pressures as everyone else. It's like listening to one of the Rockefellers lecture you about how you shouldn't stress out over money. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 20:11, 31 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello NW. In the fine print of this AE complaint, it links to at Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Do you want to add a comment in this AE? Thanks, ] (]) 15:23, 31 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm not sure one is really necessary at this time; I think the reasoning for my edit is self-evident. I also don't think that it ] me in the article or the topic area, but I'll defer to the rest of the AE corps on that. Thanks for the heads up though. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 15:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| I have a request. If you decide in the AE thread that you need to do something about my conflict with Mathsci, could you please give me and him a mutual interaction ban? My “side” of the ban should also cover Ferahgo, so that she can interact with me but not with Mathsci, and Mathsci can’t interact with her. Now that Mathsci has rejected my offer of an amicable resolution to this conflict, I’m probably going to need to request an interaction ban from ArbCom at some point, but it would save everyone a lot of time and drama if this could be done at AE. | |||
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| My conflict with Mathsci over the past year has happened in far more places than just AE, so banning me from AE is not going to solve this problem. What I really care about is Mathsci not being able to pursue me anymore, but a mutual ban is probably what most people would see as fairest, and I don’t mind giving up my ability to interact with him as long as I can know he’ll be leaving me alone. (For us to both leave each other alone is also what I tried to suggest in his user talk.) --] (]) 00:30, 1 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| I’m sorry if I seem to be badgering you, but could you please get back to me about whether a mutual interaction ban between me and Mathsci is something you’d be willing to provide in the AE thread? If not, I might decide to request this from ArbCom before the AE thread is closed. I’m getting a stronger and stronger impression that allowing the conflict between him and me to continue festering is a detriment both to the community and to me, and something needs to be done to end it. But I don’t want to start an amendment thread about this issue if it’s going to be resolved at AE. --] (]) 22:38, 1 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry, I haven't had time to look at the case. But no, I don't think so. One of the other commenting admins might though? '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 17:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| NW, do you understand why it isn't appropriate to ask editors personal questions like this about their religious, philosophical, or lifestyle beliefs? For one reason among several, because we address the edits, not the editor. Also, it's the kind of atmosphere this creates in what is supposed to be a collaborative project. If you edit the Catholic Church article in a way that someone disagrees with, do you think it's appropriate for them or an admin to come to your talk page and ask you if you are a follower of the Catholic religion? ] (]) 22:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :That analogy is a bit off, Cla68. Olive has explicitly stated before that he or she is on the faculty of the primary TM university in America; I would just like olive to clarify what exactly that entails. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 00:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::If she has said that, then why are you asking her questions for which you claim to already know the answer? More importantly, what does it matter as far as Misplaced Pages is concerned? How about the ] article? Should I be asking the participants there if they belong to atheist or agnostic organizations, if they believe in God, if they are Christian Sunday School teachers, if they have ever been "card-carrying" members of the Discovery Institute, etc? It's inappropriate. Address the edits. Does Olive revert war? Does she misrepresent sources? Does she insult or belittle other editors on the article talk pages? Does she abuse BLP articles? Does she remove sourced information without discussion? Those are the issues to address if they exist. ] (]) 00:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::As a matter of fact, Cla68, that editor does engage in many of those behaviors. Those are bad enough, but they're worse when compounded with conflicts of interest. See ]. <b>] ] </b> 00:49, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If an editor is not engaging in any of those behaviors, i.e. not violating any polices, then would it matter if they have a COI, which is a ''behavioral guideline'' by the way, not a policy? If not, then why would it matter either way? Either an editor is following the rules (policies) or they aren't. The ACTIVIST essay's entire premise is that activist editors don't follow the rules. Will, didn't you help edit that essay? ] (]) 01:06, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{editconflict}} Because all (I think) I know right now is that Olive is or was a faculty member of ]. I have no idea if that means Olive did ] research, taught Advanced Transcendental Meditation theory courses, or worked in the PR department. Of those, only the last one would concern me, but only as a compounding factor. Your position that only the edits matter is interesting, but not something that I think is widely accepted. If an editor ran a website attacking a subject of a BLP, for example, and then edited inappropriately on that article but not to an extent that would normally get them sanctioned, do you not think we should take that into account?<p>And yes, I would ask similar questions if someone who was editing ] in a similar fashion that stated that they were affiliated with the National Center for Science Education but didn't say anything further. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 01:47, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| *I guess I shouldn't be surprised that an experienced admin who supported an arbitration warning against me for making one strongly worded (not uncivil) statement, who uses every chance he can get to muddy my reputation, who as I see on Kbob's page will even stoop to off-line and online intimidation and bullying creating as much noise as he can on the sidelines of his RfC, should once again create more myth and narrative in his ongoing efforts to remove me. | |||
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| *Nuclear Warfare. Any information you have about my past personal life was removed with an admin action. For you to know that information was there is to know that it was removed, and to then repeat it is deliberately outing me. For you not to know it is there means someone gave you the information. I was harassed off Misplaced Pages and the information was removed. The arbitrators were made privately aware of the information. Now it is left to me to decide what to do about being outed.(] (]) 01:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)) | |||
| :*NW, is this true? Is the information on Olive you mentioned above supposed to have been admin deleted? ] (]) 01:52, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Nope, it's available in the ] archives. I also see the same material in littleolive oil's deleted userpage, which isn't oversighted. If you intend for it to be, olive, you should probably contact ]. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 01:54, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::*Personal information on her deleted userpage shouldn't be discussed publicly if she doesn't want it to be, NW. ] (]) 01:59, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::*Indeed. Which is why I am not relying on any of it. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 02:32, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Whether or not disclosures are made, ] should be followed. ] is a policy. Some editors have consistently added positive material on TM-related topics and removed negative material, which in some cases amounts to promotion of expensive therapies and techniques. That's a problem. <b>] ] </b> 02:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::We are here because you, Will Beback have a propensity for creating narratives that reinforce your position. If you want to discuss my editing please take it to arbitration. (] (]) 02:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)) | |||
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| :::::::To you Nuclear Warfare ... I have no idea what to say to an admin and clerk who trots out personal hidden information in this kind of situation and defends that action. (] (]) 02:45, 2 September 2011 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::::::You personally have made non-deleted statements on other users' talk pages that you have a ] and I understand from posts that have been made to ] that you are affiliated with MUM. From that I thought it was reasonable to conclude that you were employed by the university, perhaps as a faculty member and perhaps in another position. No non-deleted information was used ''at all''. If you don't wish to answer the questions I posed, fine. You could have just gone and said that. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 03:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::NW, from what I've observed, editors involved in the TM topic area have been oft-subjected to this kind of inquiry, and they're understandably sensitive about it. They perhaps reasonably perceive it as attempted intimidation, because the source of much of it is an editor and admin who often disagrees with them in content debates. Then, when another admin suddenly comes along and starts asking them personal questions about it on their user talk pages, how are they supposed to feel? Again, address the edits, not the editor, and these kind of situations can be avoided. ] (]) 03:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| You took a comment about a degree, and a statement someone made on the COIN then guessed at personal information, and posted it here? In the meantime you employed Inquisition type questions on my user page in further attempts to get information? Its hard to know what to say.(] (]) 14:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)) | |||
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| Hello, Would you be willing to correct a syntax error on your userpage? You have a missing span closing tag with your toolserver link and it's reporting as an HTML misnested tag error. If you'd change<br/> | |||
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| that will fix it. Thank you and happy holidays! ] (]) 18:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| It's been ready to post for more than a day, though one editor appears to have a disagreement over a tag. But there is a strong consensus. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 03:18, 6 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, Would you be willing to correct a syntax error on your userpage? You have a missing span closing tag with your toolserver link and it's reporting as an HTML misnested tag error. If you'd change
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