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'''Public Ivy''' is a term coined by Richard Moll in his 1985 book ''Public Ivies: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' to refer to universities which "provide an ] collegiate experience at a public school price."<ref name=PublicIvys>] in his book ''Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' (1985)</ref> Public Ivies are considered, according to the ''Journal of Blacks in Higher Education'', to be capable of "successfully competing with the Ivy League schools in academic rigor... attracting superstar faculty and in competing for the best and brightest students of all races."<ref name=JBHE>{{cite journal |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |year=2005 |month=Autumn |title=Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies |journal=Journal of Blacks in Higher Education |volume= |issue= |pages= |id= |url=http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/49_blackenrollment_publicivies.html |accessdate= 2006-09-03 |quote= }}</ref> "'''Public Ivy'''" is an informal term that refers to ] in the United States that are perceived to provide a collegiate experience on the level of ] universities. <ref name="PublicIvys">Richard Moll in his book ''Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' (1985)</ref><ref name="Greenes_2001">{{cite book|last=Greene|first=Howard R.|title=The public ivies: America's flagship public universities|author2=Greene, Matthew W.|publisher=Cliff Street Books|year=2001|isbn=978-0060934590|edition=1st|location=New York}}</ref> There is no trademark for the term, and the list of schools associated with the classification has changed over time.
NOTE THAT PUBLIC IVY's is just a metaphor and does not not mean they are Ivy league schools. Just in comparison to them. The 8 private schools are the only ORIGINAL Ivy Leagues.


The term was first coined in 1985 by ] admissions officer Richard Moll, who published ''Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities.'' That initial list included eight universities and nine runners-up.<ref name="PublicIvys" /> In 2001, college guide authors Howard Greene and Matthew Greene, released their own book, ''The Public Ivies: The Great State Colleges and Universities'',<ref>{{Cite news |date=January 22, 2001 |title=Trade Paperbacks |work=Publishers Weekly |url=https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=4028521&lang=en-gb&site=eds-live&scope=site |access-date=2022-11-04 |via=]}}</ref> which included 30 schools.<ref name="Greenes_2001" />
==Origins of the term==
Moll, who earned his ] degree from ] in 1959,<ref name=YaleMagazine>{{cite journal |last=Branch |first=Mark Alden |authorlink=Mark Alden Branch |coauthors= |year=2000 |month=November |title=Deciphering the Admissions Map |journal=Yale Alumni Magazine |volume=109 |issue=11 |pages= |id= |url=http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/00_11/admissions.html |accessdate= 2008-02-09 |quote=¶16: But Richard Moll '59MDiv, a former Yale admissions officer who later oversaw admissions at Bowdoin and Vassar, thinks Yale still is not as visible as it should be. "Yale has not had the presence at grassroots admissions and counseling conferences that Harvard and Stanford have," says Moll, author of Playing the Selective College Admissions Game. }}</ref>
was an admissions officer at ], and the director of admissions at ], ], and ].<ref name=YaleMagazine /><ref>{{cite journal |last=Pierce |first=Kenneth M. |authorlink=Kenneth M. Pierce |date=24 November 1980 |title=Dr. Fix-It Goes to Santa Cruz |journal=] |volume= |issue= |pages= |id= |url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,952854-1,00.html |accessdate=2008-02-09 |quote=Trouble in paradise as "the touchy-feely school" sings the blues – ], 45, a tweedy graduate of ], has become a Dr. Fix-It for colleges that complain of sagging enrollment.}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://web.reed.edu/apply/news_and_articles/admission_messages.html |title=Admissions Messages vs. Admissions Realities |author=Paul Marthers, Dean of Admission|accessdate=2008-02-09 |work=Office of Admissions |publisher=]}}</ref> He traveled the nation examining higher education and in particular, identified eight public institutions (the same as the number of Ivy League members) which he thought had the look and feel of an Ivy League university. In addition to academic excellence, other factors considered by Moll include visual appearance, age, and school traditions as well as certain other Ivy League characteristics.


Debates about Public Ivies have centered on whether state budgetary cuts are undermining their future;<ref>{{Cite news |date=April 28, 1991 |title=The Public Ivy Is Withering |work=] |url=https://www.newsweek.com/public-ivy-withering-202348 |access-date=2022-11-04}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news |last=Pruitt |first=Charles R. |date=August 26, 2016 |title=Politics is cutting the heart out of Public Ivies |newspaper=] |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/politics-is-cutting-the-heart-out-of-public-ivies/2016/08/26/7fa0b338-6af6-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html |access-date=2022-11-04}}</ref> whether raising tuition at Public Ivies has "]" the schools;<ref name=":0">{{Cite news |last=de Vise |first=Daniel |date=January 3, 2012 |title=Berkeley and the public Ivies: Five lingering questions |newspaper=] |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/college-inc/post/berkeley-and-the-public-ivies-five-lingering-questions/2011/12/30/gIQAP3O8XP_blog.html |access-date=2022-11-04}}</ref> whether states should be subsidizing higher education in the first place;<ref name=":0" /> whether graduates of Public Ivies are able to pay back student loans as quickly as their Ivy League counterparts;<ref>{{Cite news |last=McBride |first=Sarah |date=August 19, 2010 |title=Ivy Grads Outperform Their Public-School Colleagues on Loan Repayments |work=NPR |url=https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2010/08/19/129307997/ivy-grads-outperform-their-public-school-colleagues-on-loan-repayments |access-date=2022-11-04}}</ref> and whether out-of-state tuition is too high.<ref name=":0" /><ref>{{Cite news |date=November 10, 2002 |title=Personal Business; Suddenly, State Universities Have More Allure |work=] |url=https://www.proquest.com/docview/2230199937 |access-date=2022-11-04 |id={{ProQuest|2230199937}} |via=]}}</ref>
===The original eight Public Ivies===
The original eight Public Ivies as they were listed by Moll in 1985:<ref name=JBHE />
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== History ==
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The term first appeared in the ''Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities'', published in 1985.<ref name="PublicIvys" /> The author, Richard Moll, graduated with a master's degree from ] in 1959, and served as an admissions officer as well as a director of admissions at several universities in the ].<ref name="YaleMagazine">{{Cite magazine |last=Branch |first=Mark Alden |author-link=Mark Alden Branch |date=November 2000 |title=Deciphering the Admissions Map |url=http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/00_11/admissions.html|url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080107182828/http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/00_11/admissions.html |archive-date=2008-01-07 |magazine=Yale Alumni Magazine |volume=109 |issue=11 |at=¶16 |access-date=2008-02-09 |quote=But Richard Moll '59MDiv, a former Yale admissions officer who later oversaw admissions at Bowdoin and Vassar, thinks Yale still is not as visible as it should be. 'Yale has not had the presence at grassroots admissions and counseling conferences that Harvard and Stanford have,' says Moll, author of ''Playing the Selective College Admissions Game''.}}</ref> He traveled the nation examining higher education institutions, and selected eight that were comparable to the ].<ref name="JBHE2">{{cite journal|date=Autumn 2005|title=Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies|url=http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/49_blackenrollment_publicivies.html|journal=The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education|access-date=2006-09-03}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|author=Paul Marthers, Dean of Admission|title=Admissions Messages vs. Admissions Realities|url=http://web.reed.edu/apply/news_and_articles/admission_messages.html|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080221023124/http://web.reed.edu/apply/news_and_articles/admission_messages.html|archive-date=2008-02-21|access-date=2008-02-09|department=Office of Admissions|publisher=]}}</ref>

Moll's original ranking methodology included factors such as academic rigor, quality of faculty, and cost of tuition, as well as assessments of campus facilities, available resources, age, and major cultural traditions celebrated at each institution.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Savage|first=David G.|date=1985-10-06|title=The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities|language=en-US|newspaper=Los Angeles Times|url=https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-10-06-bk-5533-story.html|access-date=2016-07-26|issn=0458-3035}}</ref><ref name="JBHE">{{cite journal|date=Autumn 2005|title=Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies|url=http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/49_blackenrollment_publicivies.html|journal=The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education|access-date=2006-09-03}}</ref>{{clear}}

=== Original list published in 1985 ===
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===The worthy runners-up=== ====Runners-up====
Moll also offered in the same book "a list of worthy runners-up" and brief summaries of them:<ref>Moll, Richard (1985). ''The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Undergraduate Colleges and Universities''. Viking Penguin Inc. p. xxvi. </ref> As part of the initial 1985 publication, Moll also selected nine "worthy runner-up" universities:<ref>Moll, Richard (1985). ''The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Undergraduate Colleges and Universities''. Viking Penguin. p. xxvi. {{ISBN|0-670-58205-0}}.</ref><!-- Listed alphabetically with names as they appeared in Moll's book. -->
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== Notable updates ==
==Greenes' Guides==
=== ''Greenes' Guides'' list (2001) ===
The more recent and expansive Greene's list (including a list of approximately 30 schools) had one focus alone: public schools with academic quality comparable to an Ivy League institution.
The list of "public Ivy" institutions has gone through several revisions over the years, much like other university rankings and conferences. A notable update was published in 2001, when Howard and Matthew Greene included the following 30 colleges and universities in ''The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities''.<ref name="Greenes_2001" /><!-- Listed as they appeared in Greenes' Guide in 2001. -->
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A later book titled ''The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities'' (2001) by Howard and Matthew Greene of ''Greene's Guides'' expanded upon the first list (''italicized'' below) to include 30 colleges and universities.<ref> (accessed on May 16, 2007); see also .</ref> The table below is organized by region, and colleges are listed in alphabetical order.
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==Institutional comparisons==
===Academic comparisons and rankings===
Several schools considered as "Public Ivies" are consistently ranked among the top schools in the multitude of surveys on American colleges and universities undertaken by '']''. For instance, half of the top 12 ranked national universities for undergraduate teaching in ''U.S. News and World Report'' are of the original Public Ivies listed by Moll.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-ut-rank |title=Best Colleges: Undergraduate Teaching at National Universities |author=U.S. News and World Report|accessdate=2 August 2010}}</ref>
Public Ivies can be found in the top ten ranked graduate schools in business, education, engineering, law, and medicine.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools |title=Best Graduate Schools |author=U.S. News and World Report|accessdate=2 August 2010}}</ref>

===Athletic comparisons===
One sharp distinction between the ] and most "Public Ivies" is their participation in intercollegiate athletics. One of the ]'s distinguishing characteristics is its prohibition on the awarding of ]s (athletes may only receive the same ] to which they would be entitled even if they did not play a sport). In contrast, many of the "Public Ivies" participate in major athletic conferences such as the ], ], ], ], ], or ], and award athletic scholarships. These schools sometimes rely on profits, if any, from large-scale ] and men's ] programs to support the athletic department as a whole.


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* {{cite book|last=Greene |first=Howard |coauthors=Matthew Greene |title=The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities |location=New York |publisher=HarperCollins |year=2001 |isbn=006093459X}}
* {{cite book|last=Greene |first=Howard |coauthors=Matthew Greene |title=Hidden Ivies: Thirty Colleges of Excellence|location=New York |publisher=HarperCollins |year=2000 |isbn=0060953624}}
* {{cite book|last=Moll |first=Richard |title=The Public Ivies: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities |location=New York |publisher=Penguin (Viking) |year=1985 |isbn=0140093842}}<!-- or ISBN 0-670-58205-0-->
* {{cite book |title=The Best 361 Colleges, 2007 Edition |location=Princeton, New Jersey |publisher=] |year=2006 |isbn=0375765581 |author=Robert Franek ...}}


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United States public universities comparable to Ivy League schools

"Public Ivy" is an informal term that refers to public colleges and universities in the United States that are perceived to provide a collegiate experience on the level of Ivy League universities. There is no trademark for the term, and the list of schools associated with the classification has changed over time.

The term was first coined in 1985 by Yale University admissions officer Richard Moll, who published Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities. That initial list included eight universities and nine runners-up. In 2001, college guide authors Howard Greene and Matthew Greene, released their own book, The Public Ivies: The Great State Colleges and Universities, which included 30 schools.

Debates about Public Ivies have centered on whether state budgetary cuts are undermining their future; whether raising tuition at Public Ivies has "gentrified" the schools; whether states should be subsidizing higher education in the first place; whether graduates of Public Ivies are able to pay back student loans as quickly as their Ivy League counterparts; and whether out-of-state tuition is too high.

History

The term first appeared in the Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities, published in 1985. The author, Richard Moll, graduated with a master's degree from Yale University in 1959, and served as an admissions officer as well as a director of admissions at several universities in the United States. He traveled the nation examining higher education institutions, and selected eight that were comparable to the Ivy League.

Moll's original ranking methodology included factors such as academic rigor, quality of faculty, and cost of tuition, as well as assessments of campus facilities, available resources, age, and major cultural traditions celebrated at each institution.

Original list published in 1985

Public Ivy is located in the United StatesNCFNCFGeorgia TechGeorgia TechPittPittUVMUVMUC RiversideUC RiversideUC Santa CruzUC Santa CruzWashingtonWashingtonMichiganMichiganUW–MadisonUW–MadisonUT-AustinUT-AustinPenn StatePenn StateUIUCUIUCUNCUNCUC BerkeleyUC BerkeleyUVAUVAUCLAUCLAUC DavisUC DavisUC IrvineUC IrvineCU-BoulderCU-BoulderUC San DiegoUC San DiegoUCSBUCSBMiamiMiamiW&MW&MBinghamtonBinghamtonclass=notpageimage| A map of the original "Public Ivies" (in red) and the worthy runners-up (in blue) from 1985.

Runners-up

As part of the initial 1985 publication, Moll also selected nine "worthy runner-up" universities:

Notable updates

Greenes' Guides list (2001)

The list of "public Ivy" institutions has gone through several revisions over the years, much like other university rankings and conferences. A notable update was published in 2001, when Howard and Matthew Greene included the following 30 colleges and universities in The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities.

Public Ivy is located in the United StatesFloridaFloridaWashingtonWashingtonOhio StateOhio StateIndianaIndianaMichiganMichiganMSUMSUMinnesotaMinnesotaIowaIowaUW–MadisonUW–MadisonMarylandMarylandUT-AustinUT-AustinPenn StatePenn StateRutgersRutgersUIUCUIUCMinnesotaMinnesotaUNCUNCUC BerkeleyUC BerkeleyUVAUVAUCLAUCLAUC DavisUC DavisUC IrvineUC IrvineCU-BoulderCU-BoulderUC San DiegoUC San DiegoUC Santa BarbaraUC Santa BarbaraArizonaArizonaUConnUConnMiamiMiamiGeorgiaGeorgiaW&MW&MDelawareDelawareBinghamtonBinghamtonclass=notpageimage| A map of colleges listed as public ivies in the 2001 version of The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities by Howard and Matthew Greene.

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Mid-Atlantic

Western

Great Lakes & Midwest

Southern

See also

References

  1. ^ Richard Moll in his book Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities (1985)
  2. ^ Greene, Howard R.; Greene, Matthew W. (2001). The public ivies: America's flagship public universities (1st ed.). New York: Cliff Street Books. ISBN 978-0060934590.
  3. "Trade Paperbacks". Publishers Weekly. January 22, 2001. Retrieved 2022-11-04 – via EBSCOHost.
  4. "The Public Ivy Is Withering". Newsweek. April 28, 1991. Retrieved 2022-11-04.
  5. Pruitt, Charles R. (August 26, 2016). "Politics is cutting the heart out of Public Ivies". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2022-11-04.
  6. ^ de Vise, Daniel (January 3, 2012). "Berkeley and the public Ivies: Five lingering questions". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2022-11-04.
  7. McBride, Sarah (August 19, 2010). "Ivy Grads Outperform Their Public-School Colleagues on Loan Repayments". NPR. Retrieved 2022-11-04.
  8. "Personal Business; Suddenly, State Universities Have More Allure". The New York Times. November 10, 2002. ProQuest 2230199937. Retrieved 2022-11-04 – via ProQuest.
  9. Branch, Mark Alden (November 2000). "Deciphering the Admissions Map". Yale Alumni Magazine. Vol. 109, no. 11. ¶16. Archived from the original on 2008-01-07. Retrieved 2008-02-09. But Richard Moll '59MDiv, a former Yale admissions officer who later oversaw admissions at Bowdoin and Vassar, thinks Yale still is not as visible as it should be. 'Yale has not had the presence at grassroots admissions and counseling conferences that Harvard and Stanford have,' says Moll, author of Playing the Selective College Admissions Game.
  10. "Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies". The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education. Autumn 2005. Retrieved 2006-09-03.
  11. Paul Marthers, Dean of Admission. "Admissions Messages vs. Admissions Realities". Office of Admissions. Reed College. Archived from the original on 2008-02-21. Retrieved 2008-02-09.
  12. Savage, David G. (1985-10-06). "The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities". Los Angeles Times. ISSN 0458-3035. Retrieved 2016-07-26.
  13. "Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies". The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education. Autumn 2005. Retrieved 2006-09-03.
  14. Moll, Richard (1985). The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Undergraduate Colleges and Universities. Viking Penguin. p. xxvi. ISBN 0-670-58205-0.
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