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== Editing trouble == | ||
Hello Binksternet | |||
I see you have made comments and changes to the cue cat record. I have put up for review suggestions for relevant changes to the cue cat record. Would you please join in with the rest of us on the suggested changes? Thank you (ProofPlus Professional Researcher 19:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Hello. I don't understand what did I do wrong on my last edit on ]. Can you give me an explication? ] (]) 07:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Thank each of you, wiki editors and such, for giving me such great pointers and also for the direct emails of encouragement in learning this process. Shabbat Shalom - and since it's Friday I plan to make my additions and updates to the record on Monday. ProofPlus Professional Researcher 19:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC) (ProofPlus Professional Researcher 19:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:You added influences with no references. ] (]) 13:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Greenwood == | ||
Hi there. Please help me understand why you had removed my edit for vandalism and copyrighted material. | |||
Hi, Could you please explain why you remove my edit? ] (]) 19:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
I posted no copyrighted material, just a link. I thought it was a shame that the only external link was available to EU members. | |||
== KB edit == | |||
All the same, just trying to help. Cheers! | |||
Hi! I noticed that you reverted my edits for the wiki page of Kathryn Bernardo. I overhauled the whole page as there are too many unnecessary info and clutter. I also corrected a lot of grammatical errors which I think devalues the page. | |||
--] (]) 19:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
If you will compare my edit from the previous one, it is a big improvement as it is more coherent and concise. I also added present vital info as there are a lot that has been missed. If I may, I will revert my edits on that page as it took me hours to finish it. Rest assured that no critical info has been removed. Thank you. ] (]) 14:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I looked at the site and it appeared to me to use copyrighted recordings. Misplaced Pages cannot link readers to websites that violate copyright laws. | |||
:Other than that, I did not see any specific encyclopedic information about classical music. only listed the top 100 classical songs by some unstated algorithm of how much the songs were used in popular media such as TV and movies. It's a list but it is not educational. ] (]) 20:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Whatever improvements you have planned for the biography, don't remove existing citations. The biography is supposed to be a summary of published material, and the citations represent that material. ] (]) 14:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
::I will restore the sources on the previous edit. Thanks. ] (]) 14:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Can I revert back my edit and restore back the sources previously present? I want to avoid edit warring so I'll ask for your permission. ] (]) 14:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at ]. ] (]) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. ] (]) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Thanks for keeping so many of the previous citations. ] (]) 15:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Please add "progressive soul" back to the Isley Brothers article == | |||
] was reopened after a review at ].<p>I am notifying all editors who participated in these two discussions or ] to ensure all editors are aware of the reopened discussion. ] (]) 03:59, 6 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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== Thanks == | |||
:Yes, it's in the source you linked, but they say the group "dabbled" in it, which is not a wholehearted assertion of genre. | |||
:In any case, the genre "progressive soul" must be discussed in the article body before it can be listed in the infobox. ] (]) 23:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Then add it to the body. ] (]) 00:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Robert Christgau also referred to the Isleys as a progressive soul group . ] (]) 00:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Shane McRae edits == | |||
Thanks for the supportive comment at my talk. I , anyway! ] ] ] 16:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:A day and a half of sanity to prepare once again for Misplaced Pages. ^_^ | |||
:] (]) 16:37, 6 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
Hello I saw you reversed my edits on the Misplaced Pages pages for Shane McRae and Bad Teacher crediting him for a minor role in the unrated version of the film. I assume this is because he’s not credited on IMDB so I didn’t provide a source, but I actually looked at his page again and saw photo still of him from the film from the scene in the unrated version of the film. Is this enough source to add the film to his page and the credits section of the Bad Teacher page? ] (]) 15:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== grand lake theater edit == | |||
:Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts. If the fact hasn't been published, it is not for Misplaced Pages. We are not here to figure out all the missed stuff and make sure it gets in. ] (]) 22:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Hello Binksternet, | |||
== You've Got To Hide Your Love Away == | |||
I've only done a few Misplaced Pages edits. I just saw you remove most of the addition I did for the Oakland Grand Lake theater Politics section. | |||
I've undone your removal of the Beach Boys' cover from the "cover versions" section as they did do a cover of this song, on a top 10 charting album, and there are citations provided which confirm this. There was no good reason to remove this info. ] (]) 18:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
There is a reason for putting down the full transcript from Rachel Maddow's brief coverage which you deleted. | |||
:] is the good reason. The cover version doesn't get a boost from being on a Top 10 album; it has to be judged on its own merit. At the bare minimum, the cover version should be described as extraordinary by the media. Any charting cover version is certainly included. ] (]) 22:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
The Oakland Grand Lake Theater has not been given preferential treatment by the City of Oakland as an important landmark. If anything Oakland Mayor Quan has deliberately introduced anti-small business measures to starve small businesses Oakland and has particularly ignored the owner of the Grand Lake Theater when she was just a councilmember. | |||
::Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? ] (]) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't pretend to be the arbiter but I am quite active on Misplaced Pages, so my viewpoint gets more visibility. | |||
:::The thing about the prominence of the Beach Boys is that, if their version of the song "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" wasn't mentioned by the media, then it was judged less important by the media. We would be giving it undue weight if we list it. The fact that the song was released as a single isn't good enough for ]. The single must have charted somewhere to be important. ] (]) 16:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Their version of the song '''was''' mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a '''published fact''' that The Beach Boys, '''an extremely notable band,''' released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I '''am''' providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which '''in and of itself''' is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You '''are''' pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own '''personal''' interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you '''do''' in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. ] (]) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Sticking to what you did, was still a violation of ]. The Slowinski credit in the AV media citation doesn't refer to any prose analysis by Slowinski saying that this cover version was extraordinary in some manner. Instead, Slowinski and Boyd are credited as the researchers who figured out which song contained which musicians from which recording sessions. The songs are not praised or panned in a critical review, just listed in order as part of the album. That's not enough to get through the SONGCOVER requirement. Your second citation is an example of the song being performed live in concert, which again is not enough to increase its importance for Misplaced Pages to notice. Three things can convey importance: chart success, a major award nomination, or critical commentary in books, newspapers, magazines, etc. | |||
:::::Now about my actions: Misplaced Pages's original intent was to summarize a topic's most important points for the reader. It was never meant as a full and complete collection of every fact about a topic. Misplaced Pages's current policy continues with this idea: ] says that the online encyclopedia "does not aim to contain all the information, data or expression known on every subject." There are other websites trying to fill that gap, for instance secondhandsongs is attempting to list every song cover no matter how obscure. Misplaced Pages's refusal to include every fact is the spirit which drives my removal of the lesser known song covers from song articles. ] (]) 05:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Willow Smith == | |||
The full transcript of Rachel's comments I think is really important for anyone who is looking at the wiki entry for the GrandLake theater because it will give readers a really good idea of just why the Oakland grand lake theater is such a gem. | |||
You're calling me out on “awful sourcing” and restored a version that uses a damn YouTube video as a source. Is this a joke? ] (]) 17:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Frankly I know that Allen Michaan would really appreciate having the full transcript included in the wiki entry, I just spoke with him tonight. | |||
:I got that one backwards. Sorry. ] (]) 17:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Is there some reason why you took out the text? I currently live in SF and I grew up about a mile away from the Grand Lake theater and as such really appreciate Allen's guts to post the messages on his marquee. | |||
== Another User:MariaJaydHicky sock? == | |||
I can give you my cell ph if that helps you. | |||
Hi there Binksternet, I came across some edits from the above User:ThisIs00k today and noticed that it felt very familiar to this LTA: ]. A bit of genre warring / changes going on, and a heavy focus on R&B music articles. I have already published an SPI report ], but anyways would you agree with my findings that this is another likely sock of MariaJaydHicky? — ] ] 01:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Best regards, | |||
:Yes, someone's sock. It's also too close to the existing username ] and should be blocked as a spoof. ] (]) 02:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:That is not me. ] (]) 06:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Unhelpful edit summaries == | |||
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I don't think "]" and "]" are helpful edit summaries when reverting good faith edits, which is what these appear to be. Is there something I'm missing here?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1731607610022:User_talkFTTCLNBinksternet" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 18:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
oops--this is the first Talk post I've ever done, so didn't realize I had to sign off with the four tildas. | |||
:Loosen up. Those edit summaries were meant to alert longstanding editors that consensus was being violated. I'm not going to change my style for the few times I choose to sound the alarm. ] (]) 18:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 04:47, 7 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
::And why would longstanding editors need to be alerted? I'm just saying, a less bitey approach might have been better.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1731608426065:User_talkFTTCLNBinksternet" class="FTTCmt"> — ]] 18:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
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:First, you would want to know that I love the Grand Lake—I am a loyal theater customer as well as a neighbor. When I look out of my living room window I see the big rooftop sign backwards spelling DNARG. Second you might want to know I am just trying to keep the article neutral and fact-based rather than promotional. Misplaced Pages is not here to help local organizations gain notice, it is here to document such notice as gained by other means. Michaan has options open to him, avenues of promotion, but Misplaced Pages cannot be one of them. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not more than that. ] (]) 06:14, 7 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Hey. It's been a minute. I was pressed about this author by the name of Ian Hall and his books on One-Hit Wonders of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and whether or not he could be used as a source for the List of One-Hit Wonders in the United States wiki page. He is from Scotland and now lives with his wife in Topeka, Kansas. His book includes chart data from different countries, primarily building off of the Billboard Hot 100 in the states. ] (]) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Binksternet can you help? | |||
:The problem with his books is that they are self-published through ]. That means ] is the applicable guideline. The books are not considered a reliable source unless Ian Hall can be argued as a notable expert on music topics. Is he famous for music analysis or criticism? ] (]) 02:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I can't say he's famous from the looks of it. Even if he knows his stuff really well. I ''could'' be inaccurate on that though. ] (]) 02:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== A need for some privacy == | ||
Could I contact you via e-mail over a Misplaced Pages editing matter concerning another editor, that I think should not be open for all to see, at least for the time being ? Nothing too sinister or deep, but you know how it goes. Or you can contact me on derekrbullamore@yahoo.co.uk, whichever suits you. Thanks. - ] (]) 20:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
I've run into your name a few places and I have a random request due to your GA experience. I have listed ] as my first GAN. I'm slightly concerned it may be rejected due to a lack of a formal copy-edit. (I've tried my best to copy-edit and compress the physician/academics/politicians reaction and analysis, as the peer review suggested.) Might you take a quick look and give a bit of feedback on the article in case there are some potentially deal-breaking changes I can make before it is reviewed? Thanks. ] (]) 23:34, 8 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks. I presume you mean off-Wiki ! - ] (]) 20:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
A few thoughts: The very first sentence makes no sense. Not a promising start! The rest of the article is not neutral in tone, that is, too much promotion for HR 3200. The word "reform" is used to beat the reader over the head, even though it refers to a proposed bill. . The article is too repetitious about the concept of death panels being false. Once established, the point does not have to be continually repeated. I don't like the two horizontal galleries of influential parties. If they are not major actors such as Palin and Gingrich then their presence is undue weight. Why is there a wikilink to ]? ] (]) 20:23, 9 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks for going in and rectifying the addition of "stuntman" to Keaton's résumé. Actually I think he did stunts on occasion, but I have no citation for that at present. Maybe it is in one of his bios or an interview, but I'm certain he did work as a stuntman now and again. He is simply not notable for it. Good catch. ]] 20:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:Now I'm curious about his stunt work for others. ^_^ | |||
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== Hey friend. == | |||
Sorry, it looks as though I abandoned you... all I can do is make mention of stuff I have known since childhood. All I know is Arbuckle and Schenck naturally found him to be the best stuntman available. He was generally kept from wasting his time that way, but he'd do it if he liked the project. | |||
You might look back to the ] article, and the hodge-podge "Focus, pacing, style, and interpretation" section. There is a lot of unsourced essay content there, that I simply can't bold-edit away myself (because editing from IP, and knowing what it likely will trigger). And good working alongside you today. Cheers. A former logging editor and Prof. ] (]) 05:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
This reminds me of Ebert, just writing last Friday. He asked stars why they did cruddy films, when they were stars and it was embarrassing. They said because they needed the money for something or other, and because no one would ever really 'see' them in the lousy films anyway.... | |||
:Cheers. I'll take another look. ] (]) 06:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per ], the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per ], the plot section is written in the ], which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. ] (]) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I support your redactive edits to move ] away from its overly long Plot, to hit ca. 700 words. I would argue that the Plot now opens with a name of principle character only revealed with certainty later in the novel—at open, only hints appear tht the principle character is Tenar; she is identified as Goha. I think the Plot summary should use Goha, until the point in the narrative that it is revealed that Goha is the preceding novel's Tenar. (But I will not be the one to even partially revert your edit.) And still believe that the "Focus, pacing, style, interpretation" section should get your honing attention (for it contains a lot of unsourced editorial content). Cheers. ] (]) 10:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== 808s & Heartbreak == | |||
Sorry, I just never had enough time to read enough about Buster, but I got to see him when I was a kid with my parents and that has always been more than enough for me! ]] 10:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
It's look like MariaJaydHicky is genre warring in '']'' . ] (]) 07:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== November 2011 == | |||
:Socking as a lifetime career. ] (]) 07:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point ]. ] (]) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::It would benefit the community greatly to know what is their motivation. We might be able to use that information to redirect their energies. | |||
:::That particular discussion in your link showed that MJH was pleading innocent at the same time she was block evading with IPs and socks. Pop psychology suggests that this kind of lying comes from narcissism's disconnect with shame or guilt. Anna Frodesiak tried to guide MJH gently toward Wikia, but MJH ignored the hint. I don't know what we could say or do to get a narcissist to go away to spend their time elsewhere. ] (]) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks. I don't have much faith in pop psychology. But would surprise me if no one has researched this topic yet. I'll ask around. ] (]) 20:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== A barnstar for you! == | |||
The information i added from this site http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-03/politics/30353835_1_tea-party-movement-unfavorable-view-positive-views is not copyrighted. I will not allow you to do damage control to the occupy movement, I am re-adding the information because it '''IS NOT''' copyrighted, do not revert it again.--] (]) 04:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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I have to also ask that you quit lying. The Business Insider article was ''not'' copyrighted. There were ''two'' sources for that information not one, so at the very most it merited deleting one of the references and not the entire edit. You have been disruptive and I ask that you get consensus before further editing the Occupy pages.--] (]) 04:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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You have reverted my edit a second time under false pretenses, this time I added the information under a separate source and not even the one you reverted it for. If you do this again I will ask an admin to block you from editing the article, you have been warned.--] (]) 04:42, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, I noticed you are a user who frequents ] and thought you might be interested in ]. It is an initiative that helps articles get reviewed more quickly through collaborative efforts. By joining, you will review another user's article and get your own GA nomination reviewed in return. ''']!''' — | |||
:Interesting concept. I'll take advantage some day. ] (]) 01:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Appreciate it! ] (]) 02:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:I am reverting your copyvio edits per ]. I am not limited in the number of removals of copyrighted text under that rule. ] (]) 04:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
So there's this LTA by the name of User:MidAtlanticBaby who has been going around and copy-pasting some story usually attacking other editors or seeking attention from admins and whatnot, over and over and over again, across the help desk, teahouse and various other help forums or noticeboards (]). I've noticed that the "Demographics vandal" you've been dealing with lately also does something incredibly similar as well, where they repeatedly spam some big block of text on the help desk and/or teahouse, which all later have to be revdelled just like MAB's posts. I've never seen any of the posts by the demographics vandal for myself before, so I'm not exactly sure as to whether these two names are two different people or not. I'm quite very familiar with MAB but not so much with the demographics vandal. Anyway, can you confirm with me whether these are two different persons? That's all. Thanks! — ] ] 06:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::How is that polling information copyrighted?--] (]) 04:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:The person I call the Demographics vandal is a complex case, with more than one area of interest. I wouldn't be surprised to find they have other disruptive behavior patterns than the ones listed at ]. | |||
:::I just saw it hidden at the very bottom, apologies. But I find it odd that you were so distraught by that information that you took the time and effort to look through the entire page to find that little thing that said copyright (I'm still not sure if it was specifically copyrighting that information).--] (]) 04:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:I've seen some of the MAB disruption but I haven't studied it. I cannot confirm these are two different people. ] (]) 06:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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== Inquiry about an article created at the English language Vikidia == | |||
== ] query == | |||
Good morning! My name is Christian, and I'm an administrator on the English language children's encyclopedia called Vikidia. This morning, an article has been created, by someone using your WP username, and it's about you. | |||
While I refrain from editing at ], I've noted a lot of activity from this Slushy user. Is Slushy going to be a problem? I think you ought to be more careful who gets in to work on the article. There were lots of facts and citations I wanted to correct, but I declined due to personal differences with a separate editor. Anyway, just a question - and maybe a heads up too. | |||
Could I ask if you have authorised this, please? If not, the article will be deleted as a violation of BLP. It features material taken word for word, from your userpage here, and is unsourced. | |||
Did you see my reply about ]? Please drop a line at my talk page, will ya? ]] 10:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
Many thanks for your attention, ]|] 09:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:I did not authorize it. Thank you in advance for deleting it. ] (]) 14:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
::{{tps}} ], I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. ] | ] 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC). | |||
::Well deserved and my pleasure to do so. They speak of overuse of the stars; no one addresses ''underuse''! Well here I stand! ]] 01:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
::: Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! ]|] 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::To confirm, the user / vandal impersonating you at the English Vikidia has been indefinitely blocked for impersonation, our recent change logs indicate you did not authorise the article, and that too has been deleted and create protected to admin only. The userpage has been wiped, and the contents of the user's edit summaries have been suppressed within our logs. | |||
::::I'd like to apologise for the delay in dealing with this, but I have been without internet for part of today, and been unable to get on here. If you ever wish to have a presence on the site, please leave a message on my talk page here, and I'll unlock the userpage and its associated talk, as well as unblock the account. With regards, ]|] 20:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Thank you for your prompt action. I will consider your kind offfer. ] (]) 20:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Origin of the term "Lost Cause" == | ||
You're right that I did too much original research. I'll try to redo it referencing this source that has good info, including a section on the origin of the term and several of the sources I included. https://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2444&context=theses That thesis suggests that Pollard might have picked up the term from an article in a rival Memphis paper in 11/16/1865, but I have a source that shows he used the term himself a day earlier than that. Pollard himself wrote in 1872 that he suggested the title to the publisher, but he was using the term himself even before the book was written. I don't have the Ulbrich book, but will try to get a copy. ] (]) 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
In regard to your comments on my talk page, "You should never have started the review". I didn't start the GA review, it was started by Amadscientist, I was simply the first person to make any observations. I would also like to point out that only 1 of my edits to the article has not been reverted so I am not the "nominator" nor have I "made significant contributions to it prior to the review".--] (]) 04:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Cheers, and thanks for having a good attitude. ] (]) 22:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:You are so deeply involved with the article that you have been blocked for edit warring. 'Nuff said. ] (]) 16:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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== Enough with ]? == | |||
== "Too specific" isn't a real standard. Don't randomly delete content without attempting discussion please. == | |||
I've noticed some minor back-and-forth at the article. Should it not be protected for the time being? It is in good shape and I see no reason why certain editors are allowed into it only to make silly changes. I myself do not venture into the article at all. ]] 06:06, 15 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
Hi. This is regarding your deletion of the section on the ] page. There is a section on the talk page for discussion, but you did not participate, either before, during, or after your deletion. Although it appears to be a common practice to delete the edits and additions of newcomers, it is still against Misplaced Pages rules and guidelines. Please follow the rules. If you're going to assert that content should be deleted, discuss it on the talk page. I did that, multiple times in fact. I was very patient. I was very careful. I spent a lot of time, and did a lot of work. "Too specific" is not a real standard, and I do intend to revert your edit. Magnolia did in fact consistently blatantly and deliberately violate Misplaced Pages's rules. The fact that there was an actual torture ring conducted by the Sonoma County government is in fact notable, whether or not people think it should be covered up is irrelevant. The fact that the person who organized the lawsuit against the County for the torture ring in 2015 was shot in the face with a crowd control "stingball" grenade is also notable. Again, please respect Misplaced Pages's rules. I don't know how much simpler I can put it. Don't delete content without participating in discussion. There has been a section on the talk page for more than 18 months. I put it there, to give people a forum to discuss the sections that I eventually added, after diligence, and patience. 18 month old invalid arguments do not weigh on consensus. Bad faith deletions do not weigh on consensus. "Too specific" isn't even applicable, firstly, and secondly it's plainly not a real standard. It's not valid. The content is notable, and is properly sourced. Merely throwing in your hat with Magnolia to cover up extremely heinous acts of brutality because you personally want the article to read like a tourist brochure does not weigh on consensus. You need a valid reason. The fact that you didn't participate in the talk page seems to implicate a lacking thereof. The page is about the County. The content relates to the County and it is not reasonably disputable that it should be in the article, if the article is to be considered objective. The article is not a tourist brochure.] (]) 11:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Latin music == | |||
== History of Chinese Americans == | |||
There's a new editor making what I think are poor changes to various Latin music articles such as ] which I know you have worked on. Care to check in and see what can be done? No need to reply here... ] (]) 20:00, 14 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Wow! Yes. I see the user has been temporarily blocked. I am going to be away in France for a week, running in the . I'll take a look at that user when I get back to see if they have improved. Thanks for letting me know. And thanks for dealing with the situation. ''']''' ''']''' 14:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Wow, have fun in France... as they say on stage, break a leg! ] (]) 14:58, 15 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
I'm not going to revert , but I will argue that the text added to ] is inappropriate. Beyond the simple problems of bolding of headers, meta-analysis like " While the page currently focuses on the legislative details, it is essential to explore the broader social and political dynamics that led to its passage." is a discussion of the page and should be on the talk page, not in the article. I also suspect that quite a lot of that text is a copyvio and it has some fairly serious ] issues. Can you take a closer look? Thanks, ] (]) 07:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:Yes, I'll look. I guess we had an edit conflict, but I didn't get a notice saying so. I thought the person's contribution was very flawed and so I removed the worst bits. You thought it was very flawed and removed all of it. I might end up agreeing more with your solution. ] (]) 15:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Dear Binksternet | |||
Thank so much for the barnstar! Much appreciated, and it is wonderful to see that someone else here sees that there is something very disturbing about that page. Unfortunately, there is still much work to be done with that page, especially the passage that seems to imply that all Soviet Jews were Communists, which is why they did not deserve "lenient" treatment, which is deeply troubling. I'm going to attach a neurality tag on that article until that matter is sorted out. But in the meantime, thank so much and please have a wonderful day!--] (]) 08:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
== WTF DUDE???? == | |||
:You're welcome! Nothing worth doing is ever easy... ^_^ | |||
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Dude Why TF are u reverting my edits. The video clearly is credible as MrBeast shows proof himself and u literally did not look at it ] (]) 21:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ]'s pic == | |||
:I did look at it, and what I saw was some clowning around in the studio. But the single , so you got me there. ] (]) 22:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Flag Icons for 1920's Time Magazine Covers == | |||
THANKS! I love that photo and have never seen it before, frankly. I have a BK file where I keep my favorite images. ]] 19:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
Is the flag icons next to names on the list of time magazine articles not the correct format? I saw you also removed the flags for the other covers as well. ] (]) 12:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, it's just a perfect shot, 100% Keaton. :D | |||
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:As I understand ] and ], the flag should only be used if the person is coming to the list as a representative of their country, for instance athletes coming to the Olympics would show the flag of the country they are competing for. If a list of people is not associated with official representation of the country, then flags are not appropriate. Or if multiple politicians got together to discuss world affairs, they might be shown with the flag they represent. The ''Time'' magazine cover is not an athletic competition and it's not a convention of international politicians. ] (]) 15:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== I'm going to need some evidence for this claim == | |||
== Robin Olds == | |||
Binkster, I made the original edit directly from the book in question (''The 479th Fighter Group in World War II: in Action over Europe with the P-38 and P-51''), which is of course why it was in block quotes. Your reversion was in order since the text was/is accurate.--] (]) 08:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
I am not "evading" anything. Now surely for you to accuse me of block evasion, you must have some real strong evidence, chief. Let's have it. ] (]) 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Ah, good to know. Google books was not giving me the slightest hint of what was inside the book. ] (]) 13:02, 17 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:See ] which lists a ton of IPs in your range, and identical behavior. ] (]) 22:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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I don't know if this user is related to MariaJaydHicky, but it appears to be the case . ] (]) 09:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
If you will not be too alarmed, I'd like to enquire whether I might be able to count on you for mediation. There is an editor - I'm sure you know DIREKTOR - causing problems at the talk page. It is the section dealing with Tesla's photo. I have at the moment asked another editor to help, but I can never be sure whether that editor will reply to me or not. I'd be grateful for a fresh set of eyes on this and a discreet assistance! ]] 19:34, 18 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:I see gaming the system of protection by gaining autoconfirmed status then immediately reverting a protected page, in this case the Nicki Minaj bio four days after first registering, showing in that the user has been here before the hip hop article was moved from ] to ] which happened on December 2. The user account was created on December 17, so if they were a completely new user, they would only know the hyphenated hip-hop link, and they wouldn't try and correct it. ] (]) 16:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Your recent edits make no sense. == | |||
:It's a silly argument. I'll chime in but mostly I think the situation will best be fixed by backing away. ] (]) 19:56, 18 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
The other day, I added the punk rock categories to the pages for speed metal and death metal, but you removed them. After reading the pages for those genres, I saw no mention of hardcore punk, so I removed them from the Hardcore punk template, but you added them back. What is the meaning of that? ] (]) 22:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: Agreed, and I have agreed to your post at Tesla and have apologised - which I hope you'll accept here also. What I regret most of course is that so much of what I wrote was taken to be hostile and unnecessary. And I agree that it ''was''.... ]] 20:50, 18 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Your genre edits have been based on looking around at other Misplaced Pages articles. I have pointed this problem out repeatedly to you, saying that other Misplaced Pages articles cannot be considered reliable per ]. Back in 2021 ] instead, but you don't appear to be able or willing to do this. That's why I have a giant bug up my ass about your edits. ] (]) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. ] (]) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
You told me not to get lost in this or that primary source. And I agree, but except perhaps yourself no one was lost. We were discussing inclusion of both studies. ] (]) 21:53, 18 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. ] (]) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::It was a ''lack'' of sources I was going on. ] (]) 17:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Various questions .. but for starters .. == | |||
:I considered the various aspects of the discussion and I thought you were driving it in a toxic direction which is why I said what I did. ] (]) 22:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
Why would you revert the italicization of ]. And why do it with zero edit summary - do you really believe it to be vandalism? ] (]) 08:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:You added a borough right next to the note that says no boroughs. ] (]) 15:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in ] and ] and ] and ]? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --] (]) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::] says to list the city. People have interpreted that to mean nothing below the city level, as some rappers were starting to list which neighborhood or even which apartment project. Local consensus at ] was clearly and explicitly against listing the borough, so you would want to take the issue up with the frequent participants there. ] (]) 15:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:Sounds like you are describing a system that pre-equalizes a signal prior to the signal traveling through an all-pass sort of medium in which the phases are smeared. If so, it's not just television: there are audio tools for this same purpose because air does not affect all sound waves equally. Air attenuates high frequency sound waves more than low and it smears the phase. Some loudspeaker management tools for large concerts have a way to counteract this condition. ] (]) 22:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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::Your comment ''Air attenuates high frequency sound waves more than low and it smears the phase'' is a little confused. The differential attenuation of frequencies is not dispersion, it is rather, the differential ''delay'' of frequencies. Dispersion of sound in air is a relatively minor effect (see ]) and does not have a hugely detrimental result. In digital communications, on the other hand, it has the potential to completely destroy reception. ''']]''' 23:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Hello. I don't understand what did I do wrong on my last edit on Jaska Raatikainen. Can you give me an explication? Loyal to Metal (talk) 07:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- You added influences with no references. Binksternet (talk) 13:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, Could you please explain why you remove my edit? Rabbitsforever (talk) 19:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
KB edit
Hi! I noticed that you reverted my edits for the wiki page of Kathryn Bernardo. I overhauled the whole page as there are too many unnecessary info and clutter. I also corrected a lot of grammatical errors which I think devalues the page.
If you will compare my edit from the previous one, it is a big improvement as it is more coherent and concise. I also added present vital info as there are a lot that has been missed. If I may, I will revert my edits on that page as it took me hours to finish it. Rest assured that no critical info has been removed. Thank you. Itslouagain (talk) 14:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Whatever improvements you have planned for the biography, don't remove existing citations. The biography is supposed to be a summary of published material, and the citations represent that material. Binksternet (talk) 14:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will restore the sources on the previous edit. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can I revert back my edit and restore back the sources previously present? I want to avoid edit warring so I'll ask for your permission. Itslouagain (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at User:Itslouagain/sandbox. Binksternet (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for keeping so many of the previous citations. Binksternet (talk) 15:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at User:Itslouagain/sandbox. Binksternet (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Please add "progressive soul" back to the Isley Brothers article
Source 166.181.255.91 (talk) 23:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it's in the source you linked, but they say the group "dabbled" in it, which is not a wholehearted assertion of genre.
- In any case, the genre "progressive soul" must be discussed in the article body before it can be listed in the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Then add it to the body. 166.181.255.91 (talk) 00:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Robert Christgau also referred to the Isleys as a progressive soul group in the 1970s. 166.181.255.91 (talk) 00:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Shane McRae edits
Hello I saw you reversed my edits on the Misplaced Pages pages for Shane McRae and Bad Teacher crediting him for a minor role in the unrated version of the film. I assume this is because he’s not credited on IMDB so I didn’t provide a source, but I actually looked at his page again and saw this photo still of him from the film from the scene in the unrated version of the film. Is this enough source to add the film to his page and the credits section of the Bad Teacher page? 2600:6C47:BCF0:9440:1B7:1B7F:B1C6:C415 (talk) 15:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts. If the fact hasn't been published, it is not for Misplaced Pages. We are not here to figure out all the missed stuff and make sure it gets in. Binksternet (talk) 22:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
I've undone your removal of the Beach Boys' cover from the "cover versions" section as they did do a cover of this song, on a top 10 charting album, and there are citations provided which confirm this. There was no good reason to remove this info. 2603:8000:AC00:4300:99C2:F5DB:AC50:72B9 (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:SONGCOVER is the good reason. The cover version doesn't get a boost from being on a Top 10 album; it has to be judged on its own merit. At the bare minimum, the cover version should be described as extraordinary by the media. Any charting cover version is certainly included. Binksternet (talk) 22:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:14DA:9FFB:7925:E78D (talk) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't pretend to be the arbiter but I am quite active on Misplaced Pages, so my viewpoint gets more visibility.
- The thing about the prominence of the Beach Boys is that, if their version of the song "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" wasn't mentioned by the media, then it was judged less important by the media. We would be giving it undue weight if we list it. The fact that the song was released as a single isn't good enough for WP:SONGCOVER. The single must have charted somewhere to be important. Binksternet (talk) 16:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Their version of the song was mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a published fact that The Beach Boys, an extremely notable band, released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I am providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which in and of itself is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You are pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own personal interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you do in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:BAB7:4F59:D434:549 (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sticking to what you did, your second edit which included two references was still a violation of WP:SONGCOVER. The Slowinski credit in the AV media citation doesn't refer to any prose analysis by Slowinski saying that this cover version was extraordinary in some manner. Instead, Slowinski and Boyd are credited as the researchers who figured out which song contained which musicians from which recording sessions. The songs are not praised or panned in a critical review, just listed in order as part of the album. That's not enough to get through the SONGCOVER requirement. Your second citation is an example of the song being performed live in concert, which again is not enough to increase its importance for Misplaced Pages to notice. Three things can convey importance: chart success, a major award nomination, or critical commentary in books, newspapers, magazines, etc.
- Now about my actions: Misplaced Pages's original intent was to summarize a topic's most important points for the reader. It was never meant as a full and complete collection of every fact about a topic. Misplaced Pages's current policy continues with this idea: Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not says that the online encyclopedia "does not aim to contain all the information, data or expression known on every subject." There are other websites trying to fill that gap, for instance secondhandsongs is attempting to list every song cover no matter how obscure. Misplaced Pages's refusal to include every fact is the spirit which drives my removal of the lesser known song covers from song articles. Binksternet (talk) 05:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Their version of the song was mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a published fact that The Beach Boys, an extremely notable band, released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I am providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which in and of itself is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You are pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own personal interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you do in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:BAB7:4F59:D434:549 (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:14DA:9FFB:7925:E78D (talk) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Willow Smith
You're calling me out on “awful sourcing” and restored a version that uses a damn YouTube video as a source. Is this a joke? ThisIs00k (talk) 17:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I got that one backwards. Sorry. Binksternet (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Another User:MariaJaydHicky sock?
Hi there Binksternet, I came across some edits from the above User:ThisIs00k today and noticed that it felt very familiar to this LTA: WP:LTA/MJH. A bit of genre warring / changes going on, and a heavy focus on R&B music articles. I have already published an SPI report over here, but anyways would you agree with my findings that this is another likely sock of MariaJaydHicky? — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, someone's sock. It's also too close to the existing username User:This0k and should be blocked as a spoof. Binksternet (talk) 02:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is not me. This0k (talk) 06:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Unhelpful edit summaries
I don't think "Nope nope nope" and "Rv image vandalis," are helpful edit summaries when reverting good faith edits, which is what these appear to be. Is there something I'm missing here? — Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Loosen up. Those edit summaries were meant to alert longstanding editors that consensus was being violated. I'm not going to change my style for the few times I choose to sound the alarm. Binksternet (talk) 18:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- And why would longstanding editors need to be alerted? I'm just saying, a less bitey approach might have been better. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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Question about an author and his book
Hey. It's been a minute. I was pressed about this author by the name of Ian Hall and his books on One-Hit Wonders of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and whether or not he could be used as a source for the List of One-Hit Wonders in the United States wiki page. He is from Scotland and now lives with his wife in Topeka, Kansas. His book includes chart data from different countries, primarily building off of the Billboard Hot 100 in the states. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- The problem with his books is that they are self-published through CreateSpace. That means WP:USERG is the applicable guideline. The books are not considered a reliable source unless Ian Hall can be argued as a notable expert on music topics. Is he famous for music analysis or criticism? Binksternet (talk) 02:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I can't say he's famous from the looks of it. Even if he knows his stuff really well. I could be inaccurate on that though. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 02:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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A need for some privacy
Could I contact you via e-mail over a Misplaced Pages editing matter concerning another editor, that I think should not be open for all to see, at least for the time being ? Nothing too sinister or deep, but you know how it goes. Or you can contact me on derekrbullamore@yahoo.co.uk, whichever suits you. Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will ping you offline. Binksternet (talk) 20:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I presume you mean off-Wiki ! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- You presume correctly. Binksternet (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Am not surprised to see an old favourite editor, and a new favourite, collaborating. Cheers, both. Press on. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 05:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- You presume correctly. Binksternet (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hey friend.
You might look back to the Tehanu article, and the hodge-podge "Focus, pacing, style, and interpretation" section. There is a lot of unsourced essay content there, that I simply can't bold-edit away myself (because editing from IP, and knowing what it likely will trigger). And good working alongside you today. Cheers. A former logging editor and Prof. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 05:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cheers. I'll take another look. Binksternet (talk) 06:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per WP:NOVELPLOT, the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per MOS:PLOT, the plot section is written in the narrative present, which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. Binksternet (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I support your redactive edits to move Tehanu away from its overly long Plot, to hit ca. 700 words. I would argue that the Plot now opens with a name of principle character only revealed with certainty later in the novel—at open, only hints appear tht the principle character is Tenar; she is identified as Goha. I think the Plot summary should use Goha, until the point in the narrative that it is revealed that Goha is the preceding novel's Tenar. (But I will not be the one to even partially revert your edit.) And still believe that the "Focus, pacing, style, interpretation" section should get your honing attention (for it contains a lot of unsourced editorial content). Cheers. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 10:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per WP:NOVELPLOT, the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per MOS:PLOT, the plot section is written in the narrative present, which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. Binksternet (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
808s & Heartbreak
It's look like MariaJaydHicky is genre warring in 808s & Heartbreak . TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 07:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Socking as a lifetime career. Binksternet (talk) 07:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point User_talk:MariaJaydHicky2. Polygnotus (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- It would benefit the community greatly to know what is their motivation. We might be able to use that information to redirect their energies.
- That particular discussion in your link showed that MJH was pleading innocent at the same time she was block evading with IPs and socks. Pop psychology suggests that this kind of lying comes from narcissism's disconnect with shame or guilt. Anna Frodesiak tried to guide MJH gently toward Wikia, but MJH ignored the hint. I don't know what we could say or do to get a narcissist to go away to spend their time elsewhere. Binksternet (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I don't have much faith in pop psychology. But would surprise me if no one has researched this topic yet. I'll ask around. Polygnotus (talk) 20:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point User_talk:MariaJaydHicky2. Polygnotus (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- Thanks! Appreciated. Binksternet (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Interesting concept. I'll take advantage some day. Binksternet (talk) 01:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Quick question
So there's this LTA by the name of User:MidAtlanticBaby who has been going around and copy-pasting some story usually attacking other editors or seeking attention from admins and whatnot, over and over and over again, across the help desk, teahouse and various other help forums or noticeboards (example diff). I've noticed that the "Demographics vandal" you've been dealing with lately also does something incredibly similar as well, where they repeatedly spam some big block of text on the help desk and/or teahouse, which all later have to be revdelled just like MAB's posts. I've never seen any of the posts by the demographics vandal for myself before, so I'm not exactly sure as to whether these two names are two different people or not. I'm quite very familiar with MAB but not so much with the demographics vandal. Anyway, can you confirm with me whether these are two different persons? That's all. Thanks! — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- The person I call the Demographics vandal is a complex case, with more than one area of interest. I wouldn't be surprised to find they have other disruptive behavior patterns than the ones listed at Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Demographics vandal.
- I've seen some of the MAB disruption but I haven't studied it. I cannot confirm these are two different people. Binksternet (talk) 06:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see, got it. — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Inquiry about an article created at the English language Vikidia
Good morning! My name is Christian, and I'm an administrator on the English language children's encyclopedia called Vikidia. This morning, an article has been created, by someone using your WP username, and it's about you.
Could I ask if you have authorised this, please? If not, the article will be deleted as a violation of BLP. It features material taken word for word, from your userpage here, and is unsourced.
Many thanks for your attention, Dane|Geld 09:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I did not authorize it. Thank you in advance for deleting it. Binksternet (talk) 14:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) DaneGeld, I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. Bishonen | tålk 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC).
- Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! Dane|Geld 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- To confirm, the user / vandal impersonating you at the English Vikidia has been indefinitely blocked for impersonation, our recent change logs indicate you did not authorise the article, and that too has been deleted and create protected to admin only. The userpage has been wiped, and the contents of the user's edit summaries have been suppressed within our logs.
- I'd like to apologise for the delay in dealing with this, but I have been without internet for part of today, and been unable to get on here. If you ever wish to have a presence on the site, please leave a message on my talk page here, and I'll unlock the userpage and its associated talk, as well as unblock the account. With regards, Dane|Geld 20:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your prompt action. I will consider your kind offfer. Binksternet (talk) 20:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! Dane|Geld 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) DaneGeld, I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. Bishonen | tålk 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC).
Origin of the term "Lost Cause"
You're right that I did too much original research. I'll try to redo it referencing this source that has good info, including a section on the origin of the term and several of the sources I included. https://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2444&context=theses That thesis suggests that Pollard might have picked up the term from an article in a rival Memphis paper in 11/16/1865, but I have a source that shows he used the term himself a day earlier than that. Pollard himself wrote in 1872 that he suggested the title to the publisher, but he was using the term himself even before the book was written. I don't have the Ulbrich book, but will try to get a copy. Brooklinehistory (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cheers, and thanks for having a good attitude. Binksternet (talk) 22:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 174.208.225.98 (talk) 01:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
"Too specific" isn't a real standard. Don't randomly delete content without attempting discussion please.
Hi. This is regarding your deletion of the section on the Sonoma County, California page. There is a section on the talk page for discussion, but you did not participate, either before, during, or after your deletion. Although it appears to be a common practice to delete the edits and additions of newcomers, it is still against Misplaced Pages rules and guidelines. Please follow the rules. If you're going to assert that content should be deleted, discuss it on the talk page. I did that, multiple times in fact. I was very patient. I was very careful. I spent a lot of time, and did a lot of work. "Too specific" is not a real standard, and I do intend to revert your edit. Magnolia did in fact consistently blatantly and deliberately violate Misplaced Pages's rules. The fact that there was an actual torture ring conducted by the Sonoma County government is in fact notable, whether or not people think it should be covered up is irrelevant. The fact that the person who organized the lawsuit against the County for the torture ring in 2015 was shot in the face with a crowd control "stingball" grenade is also notable. Again, please respect Misplaced Pages's rules. I don't know how much simpler I can put it. Don't delete content without participating in discussion. There has been a section on the talk page for more than 18 months. I put it there, to give people a forum to discuss the sections that I eventually added, after diligence, and patience. 18 month old invalid arguments do not weigh on consensus. Bad faith deletions do not weigh on consensus. "Too specific" isn't even applicable, firstly, and secondly it's plainly not a real standard. It's not valid. The content is notable, and is properly sourced. Merely throwing in your hat with Magnolia to cover up extremely heinous acts of brutality because you personally want the article to read like a tourist brochure does not weigh on consensus. You need a valid reason. The fact that you didn't participate in the talk page seems to implicate a lacking thereof. The page is about the County. The content relates to the County and it is not reasonably disputable that it should be in the article, if the article is to be considered objective. The article is not a tourist brochure.Isonomia01 (talk) 11:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
History of Chinese Americans
I'm not going to revert your edit, but I will argue that the text added to History of Chinese Americans is inappropriate. Beyond the simple problems of bolding of headers, meta-analysis like " While the page currently focuses on the legislative details, it is essential to explore the broader social and political dynamics that led to its passage." is a discussion of the page and should be on the talk page, not in the article. I also suspect that quite a lot of that text is a copyvio and it has some fairly serious WP:NPOV issues. Can you take a closer look? Thanks, Opolito (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll look. I guess we had an edit conflict, but I didn't get a notice saying so. I thought the person's contribution was very flawed and so I removed the worst bits. You thought it was very flawed and removed all of it. I might end up agreeing more with your solution. Binksternet (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
WTF DUDE????
Dude Why TF are u reverting my edits. The video clearly is credible as MrBeast shows proof himself and u literally did not look at it HiGuys69420 (talk) 21:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I did look at it, and what I saw was some clowning around in the studio. But the single actually has MrBeast credited on Hi Hat, so you got me there. Binksternet (talk) 22:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Flag Icons for 1920's Time Magazine Covers
Is the flag icons next to names on the list of time magazine articles not the correct format? I saw you also removed the flags for the other covers as well. Bicufo (talk) 12:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- As I understand MOS:FLAG and Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Icons, the flag should only be used if the person is coming to the list as a representative of their country, for instance athletes coming to the Olympics would show the flag of the country they are competing for. If a list of people is not associated with official representation of the country, then flags are not appropriate. Or if multiple politicians got together to discuss world affairs, they might be shown with the flag they represent. The Time magazine cover is not an athletic competition and it's not a convention of international politicians. Binksternet (talk) 15:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm going to need some evidence for this claim
I am not "evading" anything. Now surely for you to accuse me of block evasion, you must have some real strong evidence, chief. Let's have it. 166.181.250.216 (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sugar Bear/Archive which lists a ton of IPs in your range, and identical behavior. Binksternet (talk) 22:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Possible sock puppet of MariaJaydHicky
I don't know if this user is related to MariaJaydHicky, but it appears to be the case . TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 09:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see gaming the system of protection by gaining autoconfirmed status then immediately reverting a protected page, in this case the Nicki Minaj bio four days after first registering, showing in this edit that the user has been here before the hip hop article was moved from Hip hop music to Hip-hop which happened on December 2. The user account was created on December 17, so if they were a completely new user, they would only know the hyphenated hip-hop link, and they wouldn't try and correct it. Binksternet (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Your recent edits make no sense.
The other day, I added the punk rock categories to the pages for speed metal and death metal, but you removed them. After reading the pages for those genres, I saw no mention of hardcore punk, so I removed them from the Hardcore punk template, but you added them back. What is the meaning of that? 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C9F4:40DD:A5FB:6428 (talk) 22:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your genre edits have been based on looking around at other Misplaced Pages articles. I have pointed this problem out repeatedly to you, saying that other Misplaced Pages articles cannot be considered reliable per WP:USERG. Back in 2021 I advised you to read some musicology books instead, but you don't appear to be able or willing to do this. That's why I have a giant bug up my ass about your edits. Binksternet (talk) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- It was a lack of sources I was going on. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Various questions .. but for starters ..
Why would you revert the italicization of hazzan. And why do it with zero edit summary - do you really believe it to be vandalism? 184.153.21.19 (talk) 08:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- You added a borough right next to the note that says no boroughs. Binksternet (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in Sandy Koufax and Jay-Z and Michael Jordan and Joan Rivers? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --184.153.21.19 (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox_musical_artist#birth_place says to list the city. People have interpreted that to mean nothing below the city level, as some rappers were starting to list which neighborhood or even which apartment project. Local consensus at David Draiman was clearly and explicitly against listing the borough, so you would want to take the issue up with the frequent participants there. Binksternet (talk) 15:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in Sandy Koufax and Jay-Z and Michael Jordan and Joan Rivers? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --184.153.21.19 (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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