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			The result was '''no consensus'''. Consensus seems split between keep and redirect. Since a merge/redirect discussion can happen on the article's talk page, I'm closing this as no consensus. v/r - ]] 01:03, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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	Unremarkable micronation. Majority of the references are to primary sources or user-submitted sites - little significant coverage from independent sources. Google search on shows only one result. Standard search shows a lot of unreliable sources, wikis, and primary sources - again, no significant coverage found. ] (]) 20:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)		Unremarkable micronation. Majority of the references are to primary sources or user-submitted sites - little significant coverage from independent sources. Google search on shows only one result. Standard search shows a lot of unreliable sources, wikis, and primary sources - again, no significant coverage found. ] (]) 20:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
	:'''Comment''' - I should have checked for the prior discussion - this should have been speedy deleted as a recreation. ] (]) 20:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)		:'''Comment''' - I should have checked for the prior discussion - this should have been speedy deleted as a recreation. ] (]) 20:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
	:'''~~Oppose~~''' - ], is there any sources for that? And ]? ] (]) 20:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)~~{{spa~~\|InTheRevolution2}}		:'''Keep''' - ], is there any sources for that? And ]? ] (]) 20:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)<small>— ] (] • ]) has made ] outside this topic. </small>
	*'''Comment''' I will not be commenting on weather this article should be kept or not, but I checked the original deleted article, and went over the original AfD, and the content is essentially the same, and therefor eligible for deletion under G4. I find it odd however that deletion of micronations has been such a mixed bag, and won't be deleting the article under G4. The AfD was two years ago, and consensus may have changed. If it has not, this AfD might be a precedent for other micronations (as the mentioned ]). ] (]) 21:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)		*'''Comment''' I will not be commenting on weather this article should be kept or not, but I checked the original deleted article, and went over the original AfD, and the content is essentially the same, and therefor eligible for deletion under G4. I find it odd however that deletion of micronations has been such a mixed bag, and won't be deleting the article under G4. The AfD was two years ago, and consensus may have changed. If it has not, this AfD might be a precedent for other micronations (as the mentioned ]). ] (]) 21:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
	*'''Keep''' ] 21:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)		*'''Keep''' ] 21:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
			**'''Comment''' - #2&3 of your cites are local coverage, and one of them uses Misplaced Pages for a source - hardly significant coverage, IMHO. ] (]) 22:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
			*'''Redirect''' to ], which already covers the topic.  Edit history should be preserved.  ] (]) 00:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
			:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the ]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>] (]) 19:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)</small>
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			*'''REdirect''' to ], whose content already contains as much as one could conceivably want to merge. I do not understand the referecne to a civil war: is this a house divided? Or has the "state" declared war on the UK? ] (]) 18:22, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
			**'''Keep''': Several references in international publications, including a book. Well known in the ] community, as the letters page of the local paper shows. The civil war comprised of one of the houses in Austenasia "rebelling" against the capital over the issue of who should be monarch, an issue solved after a referendum. ] (]) 19:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
			*'''Keep''': Austenasia is clearly a notable micronation. As the sources cited verify, their Prime Minister has had a conference with a British MP, and so on. We have an article on Atlantium et al, so I really cannot comprehend why we should not have an article on Austenasia.--] (]) 19:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
			*'''Redirect''' to ]. The micronation by itself doesn't have enough reliable sources or information in general to justify its own article. -] (]) 20:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
			*'''Redirect''' to ]. Its writeup there is all that needs to be said about this micronation. Not notable yet for a standalone article. --] (]) 00:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
			*'''Redirect''' to ]. ] is not a valid argument in AfD's. I'd like to point out that ] requires significant coverage- which means that the first of Jorgenev's links doesn't qualify the article as notable. The second two provide some coverage, but merely in local newspapers. Just because their so-called PM met with a British MP also doesn't mean that it's notable. The only sources listed in the article are either unreliable or local.--] (]) 03:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
			**'''Comment''' - Except for the Italian and South Korean newspaper articles, I presume you mean? ] (]) 10:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Consensus seems split between keep and redirect. Since a merge/redirect discussion can happen on the article's talk page, I'm closing this as no consensus. v/r - T P 01:03, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Austenasia

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Unremarkable micronation. Majority of the references are to primary sources or user-submitted sites - little significant coverage from independent sources. Google search on "Austenasia" shows only one result. Standard search shows a lot of unreliable sources, wikis, and primary sources - again, no significant coverage found. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I should have checked for the prior discussion - this should have been speedy deleted as a recreation. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Keep - Kugelmugel, is there *any* sources for that? And Republic of Saugeais? InTheRevolution2 (talk) 20:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)— InTheRevolution2 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Comment I will not be commenting on weather this article should be kept or not, but I checked the original deleted article, and went over the original AfD, and the content is essentially the same, and therefor eligible for deletion under G4. I find it odd however that deletion of micronations has been such a mixed bag, and won't be deleting the article under G4. The AfD was two years ago, and consensus may have changed. If it has not, this AfD might be a precedent for other micronations (as the mentioned Kugelmugel). Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Keep JORGENEV 21:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - #2&3 of your cites are local coverage, and one of them uses Misplaced Pages for a source - hardly significant coverage, IMHO. MikeWazowski (talk) 22:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Redirect to List of micronations, which already covers the topic. Edit history should be preserved. Unscintillating (talk) 00:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:14, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

REdirect to List of micronations, whose content already contains as much as one could conceivably want to merge. I do not understand the referecne to a civil war: is this a house divided? Or has the "state" declared war on the UK? Peterkingiron (talk) 18:22, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Keep: Several references in international publications, including a book. Well known in the Carshalton community, as the letters page of the local paper shows. The civil war comprised of one of the houses in Austenasia "rebelling" against the capital over the issue of who should be monarch, an issue solved after a referendum. Qwertyuiop1994 (talk) 19:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Keep: Austenasia is clearly a notable micronation. As the sources cited verify, their Prime Minister has had a conference with a British MP, and so on. We have an article on Atlantium et al, so I really cannot comprehend why we should not have an article on Austenasia.--Newbiepedian (Hailing Frequencies) 19:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Redirect to List of micronations. The micronation by itself doesn't have enough reliable sources or information in general to justify its own article. -Lithorien (talk) 20:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Redirect to List of micronations. Its writeup there is all that needs to be said about this micronation. Not notable yet for a standalone article. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Redirect to List of micronations. WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid argument in AfD's. I'd like to point out that WP:GNG requires significant coverage- which means that the first of Jorgenev's links doesn't qualify the article as notable. The second two provide some coverage, but merely in local newspapers. Just because their so-called PM met with a British MP also doesn't mean that it's notable. The only sources listed in the article are either unreliable or local.--Slon02 (talk) 03:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - Except for the Italian and South Korean newspaper articles, I presume you mean? Qwertyuiop1994 (talk) 10:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.