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	:I've dug into this a bit more, and concur that Happysplashy is probably Prasi90, Big boi oi, and possibly others, although they're doing it via proxies I think (I saw three continents in my investigation). I blanked and protected Happysplashy's user talk page because he was using it to annoy. Hopefully nobody will mind too much. ] (]) 19:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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	::I blocked the associated IP for a month...are these other editors (I didn't know Big boi oi was part of the same group)...are they still editing now? I am on my way out and will not be getting back for 4-5 hours so I will check in with you then.--] 21:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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	:On further review I'm of the suspicion that Happysplashy isn't part of this crowd. I'm going to unblock as a result. ] (]) 01:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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	Check out. Let me know what you think.] ] 13:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

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	The indefinate block you placed on Prasi90 seems on the surface to be reactionary. This editor has expressed an opinion to be "Anti-american". Could you show difs that he has expressed this view in article space? I would like to form an opinion based on their contributions to article spaces that he is damaging the information base, and if you could point to specific instances it would be a great help. I might add that seeing "indefinate block", I am inclined to regard it as a "permanent block". If so, this seems to be a matter for the ArbCom to decide. I would recommend setting a block for a determined length of time. I further recommend that you endevour to explore some of the mediation outlets that Misplaced Pages has to offer. You asked for an RfC regarding the user in question, and it did not generate very much discussion, far less than the average RfC generates, and the suggestions I made there were only responded too by one of the parties involved. I am willing to assume good faith regarding your actions so far, and I only wish to point out in this space that to my present knowledge you and you alone have taken issue with Prasi90 to the point of essentially banning him from editing. I hope that you take these comments/requests in the spirit which I intended them to carry, that is a spirit of hope. Hope that you and Prasi90 can find some way to exist within the project, hope that you both approach your differences in a more conciliatory manner, and hope that your current position is not one of intransigence. I will look here for your reply, so as to preserve continuity. Regards, ] 20:23, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

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	::MONGO, I read the two difs of edits that Prasi90 included in article space, at the RfC page. They are beyond any assumption of good faith by that user, there is no doubt. Is Prasi90 irredeamable? I think there is a very good chance that this user can be mentored and shaped into a more productive editor. Two bad edits to article space (horrible sentiments expressed in them, to be sure), and several others on various talk pages. Considering some of the extreme leeway given to certain other problematic editors to change their ways, I think that Prasi90 is being given the short schrift. ArbCom? Probably the best way to go here, but after all other avenues have been explored. ArbCom is the last stop. Ok, you asked for an RfC, got some support by various other editors, but no suggestions or comments from them. I think that all parties, taking a step back and prepared to try to steer Prasi90 into a more productive role is taking the high road in this case. Assuming the worst, he won't change an iota. Assuming the best, you two may eventually work together. Realistically, somewhere in between those two extremes is where we should end up, if an opportunity for some instruction/mentorship is offered to Prasi90. I don't know if I'm a good candidate to offer such a mentorship to anyone, let alone someone who has expressed sentiments such as Prasi90 has, but I would be willing to try. I havn't seen anybody else make such an offer to him, but on the surface, I only see it as helping, not hurting the project to extend the offer to him. This is presupposing that my hand offered in the spirit of co-operation is not slapped away, so to speak. As always, regards. ] 21:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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	Thanks Hamster Sandwich...I want you to look at the number of blocks against Prasi90...I blocked him before, his block was reduced to a month by Android79, Bcorr blocked him permanently, then reduced the block after Prasi90 begged and promised. Prasi90 was unblocked but then I reblocked him for a week after further insults and bad faith editing. This week block was protested by NSLE, so I told NSLE to go ahead and unblock him and he did so provided he go to arbcom as he siad he would...he didn't, instead he "apologized"...Nsle told him agin to go to arbcom, but instead he performed only a few edits and then created Happysplashy as a sock account. Posting a lengthy accord claiming I was incivil in the Misplaced Pages help desk and then the same stuff on my talk page, it was brought to my attention by Rogerd...I waited and when the same lengthy nonsense was posted to my talk page, I indef blocked Prasi90, happysplashy and blocked the associated IP for one month, per the policy. This editor does nothing but vandalize...the few "good" contributions are just there to keep him just above the pain threshold for folks like yourself. I have an Rfc that numerous editors signed about Prasi90. My blocks are neither too agressive or too unilateral, as we routinely permablock accounts that primarily serve to exhaust the communities patience, vandalize, troll and harass...please Hamster Sandwich, do not unblock this editor! I will not be able to get back you you with all the diffs and further explanation for at least 4-5 hours, so assume good faith that my action has not been done unilaterally. Arbcom is not necessary and it is a waste of time, as I am sure they will reach the same conclusions I have...this editor will be all nice to get back on board and then resume the same pattern. Thais has happened 4 times already.--] 21:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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	:::I appreciate the reply! I have seen enough difs at the RfC page regarding Prasi90 that you needn't bother gathering any others. MONGO I must say that any comment I have made is not a question of your integrity at all, so put any such thoughts away. On balance, Prasi90 losses a great deal of credibility, by his past bad actions. The ArbCom only serves to deal with problems, and particularily problems of this sort. If Prasi90 has to tell them that he is going to abide, then by gum every admin within ear-shot is going to hold him to their terms. I ask you, and any other involved editor to allow me a chance to sheppard this user. I have no facility to check if he is using sockpuppets to commit vandalism so if there is a suggestion you could make: I want to mentor this guy, but I want to make sure he's not socking/gaming the process. So I'd need help, finding a way to watch articles he has been/is likely to vandalise so I can put them on a watchlist. Also keeping an eye on any potential socks. I would further propose to him that any he would submit to a block of up to three months if any three admins complain to me (or ArbCom or RfC etc.etc.) for bad actions/edits. He needs to have things explained to him. If he just wants to vandalize/POV articles, well I don't have a huge store of patience for bullshit anyways. I suppose what I'm proposing is an arrangement with Prasi90 that is like an ArbCom ruling, that only carries as much weight as the direct participants wish to give to it, and that any blocking that may arise from a continued pattern of vandalism from Prasi90 could be as easily reversed/overturned as it would be to un-block/reblock him now. It's the "honour system" thing... Questions, comments and further ideas are not only welcome, but crucial! I'm just holding out some hope that something really positive might be the result of a little effort on the part of the involved administration here, MONGO. Peace! ] 01:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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	::::I'd support letting HS tkae Prasi90 under mentorship of some kind, but I'd like to see that three admins requirement be lowered to just unanimous agreement from any admins involved in this case (which would mean just me and MONGO). Prasi's shown worse behaviour before, but to an admin not familiar with this case they may not be willing to act. ]]</font> <sub>(]+])</sub> at 01:25 ] <small>(])</small>
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	Okay...I give agreement to an unblocking...BUT(!), (and I do not mean to seem rude here)...I completely wash my hands of this editor...I will not watch his editing, will not participate in arbcom, will not post any evidence, will not do anything other than revert his vandalisms. If you are up to the task to convert an editor who has exhausted my patience, then please do so. Any posts he makes to my usertalk will be removed...anymore insults in email will be deleted...I won't even open them. I realize that the best way to handle this editor would have been arbitration, but, I suspect that this would be a time consuming issue that would end up with the same result. Go ahead and unblock him...I will not hold that action against either one of you in any way :) but I also am not going to waste any more of my time on this situation...and if he files some kind of complaint against me, I will not participate.--] 01:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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	::I appreciate your candor! I'm not jumping right in however, without giving the idea a bit more thought, planning ect. I'll sleep on it, and offer Prasi90 my terms as a mentor. If he accepts, fine, if not, I'm hoping for even a smidgen of direction from you and NSLE. I appreciate your exasperated tone MONGO, but I may ask you for help and advice anyways. I'll probably need it sooner than later! :) But all I can do is try. Two or three heads is better than one, especially when it's mine... I'll get back to everyone concerned tomorrow with a better idea on how I personally would like to approach this. Peace! ] 02:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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	Hey! Please try not to overlook adding a page you protect to the list of currently protected pages at ]. Thanks a bunch. · ]<sup>]</sup>/<small>]</small> 21:28, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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	It would be great if you could check out and comment on the proposal for clearer language in the process description for RfAs that I posted there. Thanks. --] (<small>]</small>) ] 02:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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	... but, given the divulgence of personal information (accurate or otherwise), shouldn't all history of the reverted data be instead purged? Thanks again. ]] ] 05:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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	Looks good, thanks :) ]] ] 13:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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	You can leave it as is if the alternative is too much trouble. Everything is there and signed, so I don't see a problem. Thanks again. :) ]] ] 13:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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	on ]. Just thought I'd let you know. :) -- ] ] 05:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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	Thanks! It is nice to get a little pat on the back. You sure have been taking a beating lately, you are to be commended for you defense of NPOV. --] 05:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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	Aaahhh! Another one that's making me crazy. Let me try the backstory briefly: There's a philosopher I like named ]. An editor (or two) started adding a wildly disproportionate "critiques" section; all stuff that other real academics had written, but not at all relevant to Zizek's overall notoriety, nor appropriate for an academic biography. I requested a reduction of the section to better match WP academic biographies, and also asked for outside opinion at a couple Wikiprojects that were relevant (not much response yet... but editors all have their own projects and concerns).
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	In the course of this an editor ] turned the whole discussion into a massive flamefest, with nearly every comment he makes being a personal attack on me (relatively mild compared to some attacks on WP, but definitely impolite). (Ramanpotential is either a close friend or another name for ] and ], he claims its the first thing, I tend to believe it's the second). I think I found a reasonable solution to that other issue: I refactored out an article ]; that probably doesn't ''need'' to exist, but it's well enough cited to meet ], and generally is fine with ] and ].

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	I don't care about trying to draw you into the Zizek miasma, since it ''does'' relate to an academic area that's not yours. I'd rather get some opinions from philosophers and criticial theory people (not that yours wouldn't be interesting, but I understand you don't know or care about this field... nor should you).
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	But on a small spinoff, I ''would'' like to enlist your help. One of the critics of Zizek mentioned is ]; Bordwell's article was mostly written by Ramanpotential, and the article is perfectly fine (not brilliant, but nothing wrong with it). I put a bunch of work into cleaning up the citations for the Bordwell article by moving everything into m:cite.php and citation templates. You know how much work (but how much payoff too) using the citation templates can be. As a result, Ramanpotential first reverted all my work, then started waxing indignant at ] about how the "list of books by Bordwell" aren't citations, and therefore must be reverted to free-form, non-structured references. This issue has nothing to do with the particulars of Bordwell's work, it's just a formal matter of WP style guidelines and the like.

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	Any chance you can give a nudge to Ramanpotential on the use of proper citations (or at least not reverting all my work in doing so)? ] 20:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
	:Hi, Lulu...I'm heading out, but will attend to this in about 4 to 5 hours when I log back on.--] 21:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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	This is one fantabulous article! Very informative, and was interesting to read. Congratulations on the wonderful contributions!! ] (]) 03:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
	:I thank you for the kind words...but the credit belongs to a lot of folks for working so hard to get it to where it is now. I appreciate your kind words! Happy editing!--] 04:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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	Can you please as an Administrator look into the ] page and put a semi-protection on it? It has been repeatedly vandalized for probably more than a month now by the same group of IPs. They did the same thing in other language Wikipedias in pages about Humala and Peruvian political-related articles in general. They fill up the talk pages with these long blogs as well so you should also see the ] page and its . It got so bad in the that they also have protection on that talk page. of the Humala page. As you can see all they add is nonsense and have been doing so for a long time. The most recent edits "kiere robar el peru, y mandar a la mierda a todos...si no votas por él," translation "he wants to rob peru and send everyone to shit if you don't vote for him"....a little more "and killing up to 100.....Investigtions from the Den Hague War Crimes Tribunal are expected to shed some light on the incident." there is no factual basis for this it was added on by another one of the IPs. . So I think a semi-protect is completely justified especially considering these guys just don't want to stop.--] 23:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
	:Done...let me know when to lift.--] 02:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

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Glad I have other things to worry about than this website as some folks are hell bent on making it a completely unfun place to be. Nice job dlthewave...you succeeded in getting the articles redirected yet I see the page they redirect to have no further information...only empty headers. The purpose of a stub is so myself or anyone can come along and work to expand it...bandwidth is cheap so deletion is just plain stupid. This is why we have stub tags.--MONGO (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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Did you quit?

I noticed that you last edited over a year ago. Did you quit? Or what? I was going to invite you to edit the Mann Gulch fire. Yankeepapa13 (talk) 01:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)