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The question of which image to have in the infobox, out of the two above, was ] where the general consensus seemed to be to keep Image A until something better came along. But it's been over a year now and I feel a replacement is needed and the discussion should be re-opened.
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I believe Image B is aesthetically more pleasing because it's better lit (it better contrasts with the light background; not excessively red), and itswider and not as obviously cropped - Ed doesn't look like he's crammed into the picture. Additionally, I think Image B is a 'nicer' picture of Ed where he's caught in his officially capacity as a speaker (with added articulation with the hands) and leader. B may have the 'wide eyed' look, but it doesn't feature ''the smile'' which gives his teeth and his jaw a rather awkward look. In A he seems unaware of the photograph, as if it was taken by surprise. In B he is poised for the picture and staring clearly ahead which gives us a clearer profile of his whole face (no shadow over half his face).
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In conclusion I believe Image B is most suitable for this article ] (]) 23:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
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* - Support A - portrait style and looking into the article as per MOS. The the 'wide eyed' surprised look just makes him look like a bog eyed alien. What we are more looking for at this time - both pictures are dated for a UK political leader is a new picture, one year more updated. Both pictures in this discussion have their issues - better than putting energy into this dated discussion is to find a high quality much more recent one. - note - I added pic c a crop of b - its better without the invisible ball holding hands - although the raised eyebrows and the surprised eyes still rule it out for me. The current pic, although not perfect has , normal eyebrows, pleasant smile and is a portrait style looking into the article as per MOS for biography infobox pictures. I was looking at . - ] (]) 23:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
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:Nice find! Are images on flickr fair use? Because a few of those could potentially be used in the infobox. ] (]) 23:49, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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::Yes some of those are - how you check is look to the right hand side and click on the link - ''' Some rights reserved''' and you are led to a screen with the copyright status -like most of the commons licenses are usable on commons - unless it says no derivatives or no non educational bla bla - you get the picture. We could definitely use updating to a 2011 picture.] (]) 23:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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Given the number of changes that go on to this page, does it meet ] point #5 at this time ? ]]<sup>]</sup> 05:05, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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== removed addition- Milibands comment about Israel ==

In Miliband's first speech as Labour leader he said that ] was the only obstacle to a "just and lasting peace" in the Middle East.


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Ed was head of Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change from 2008 to 2010. This is a slighly different department from Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero which is the role he currently holds. I think his 2008 role should be split out from his current role. ] (]) 10:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
This comment seems a perfectly good addition. As Miliband is a Jew his comments about Israel seem to be quite important. He made it in his opening speech as Labour leader where you would expect him to lay out his positions. It was removed with the comment, "Not a 'self description of views' and sourced to a highly-questionable article" - that seems strange, Miliband said in his first speech as leader...bla bla, that seems to clearly be his - (actually quite well known) position and written in a Jewish publication, is the www.thejc.com not a wikipedia reliable source? ] (]) 14:39, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

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Ed was head of Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change from 2008 to 2010. This is a slighly different department from Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero which is the role he currently holds. I think his 2008 role should be split out from his current role. Fishyrabbit (talk) 10:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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