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== Your proposal at AE ==


==Hello, stranger!==
Hi, I have a question. I'm not really sure how administrative processes are modified at Misplaced Pages, so I was wondering what will end up happening to your proposal at AE about comments by non-neutral editors. I think the proposal is a good one and it would be a shame to see the thread archived after inactivity with nothing changed. Will it come to a vote, or will a closing admin just decide, or what? -] (]) 21:44, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Arcticocean,


No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.
: In a couple of days, I will float the proposal on the Committee mailing lists. It already enjoys broad support at the AE and WT:A/R threads, so if my colleagues on ArbCom approve the change, I'll implement it myself. I don't think we need to endlessly discuss what is an obvious improvement. Thanks for following up on this. Regards, ] </nowiki>]] 02:34, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
::As far as I can tell there is only "broad support" for ''some'' sort of change, not for the '''specific''' changes you were suggesting.--] (]) 21:12, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I realize you removed my previous post, it's your own talk page and all, but still this is an important issue and I think it's important that editors are kept informed of current developments. So basically I wanted to know if you have proceeded to the "floating the proposal on the Committee mailing lists" stage. If so can we get a notification about this floating on one of the Arb pages somewhere, as well as some kind of transparent or semi-transparent executive summary of how that discussion is going? If not, then the AE discussion should probably be closed.] (]) 00:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


:You might want to change the target page for the redirect on ]. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
: That's quite fair. I haven't raised the issue with the others on the committee, and on reflection I have decided to not do so in the immediate future, because I want to see where the proposal goes from here - without arbitrator direction. The enforcement process is within the community's purview, albeit subject to significant ArbCom oversight, and I'm not sure it would be well-received for me to initiate such a serious change in a quasi-official capacity. Looking at the WT:A/R thread, I note that another editor has proposed an identical change, and that many other editors have participated in the discussion there; my hope is that the proposal will continue on its own. However, if it doesn't, I'll return to it and see what, if anything, I need to do. Regards, ] </nowiki>]] 23:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Editor experience invitation ==


Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in ]? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. ] ] 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I closed out the proposal because the discussion was starting to go off the path. I think there were some great comments gathered to start the ball rolling. I'm hoping some discussions with the involvement with ARBCOM can lead to some improvements on case handling at AE. --] (]) 06:39, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
==Welcome back==
: Thanks for letting me know, ] </nowiki>]] 23:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this ] for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work!<span id="Saqib:1730576685561:User_talkFTTCLNArcticocean" class="FTTCmt"> — ] (] I ]) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
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:Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. ] 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Anthony. Will you be updating the AUSC stats with your script? If you are too busy, I can probably take over again (although I do it manually). Please let me know. Thanks -- ] (]) 16:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
: Hi Avi. There was some confusion last month over whether the statistics ran from month to month, or from the date of last publication until the date of publication of the present stats. This has been resolved, so I'm happy to update for this month and for November, although it might take a couple of days until I can get around to this. I'm happy to do so soon, because if you're running them manually it's a little unfair :). Best, ] </nowiki>]] 19:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Alt account ==
Hello AGK,


Hey. Is actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, ] (]) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Just checking in on the proposed mediation of the Oxy page.
:Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. ] (]) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

::No problem. Better safe than sorry! ] 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Best,

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: Since my comment at ], I have stepped down as Chair of the Mediation Committee. Please direct your comment to {{user4|Wgfinley}}. Thanks, ] </nowiki>]] 23:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Workshop temporarily closed ==

See ] for details. Thought I would give you a heads up. Feel free to modify or overturn the action if you see fit. Best, '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 05:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
: Thanks for the courtesy note, and for your vigilence. I fully support your decision. Regards, ] </nowiki>]] 13:50, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Question ==

Hi AGK.
I am trying to clarify a question for me these days. Could you please have a look at ]. It seems to me there is some problem in proficiency of dealing with situation where WP is being used as a vehicle for ethnic conflict. Questioning reliability of a source or judging about its biasedness based on mere ethnicity criterion is something very new for me in WP... I would appreciate your opinion. --]''' <sup>(])</sup> 08:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

: Sorry, but I would prefer to not become involved in this discussion. Regards, ] </nowiki>]] 23:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== AE vs. amendment ==

I appreciate your suggestion about addressing the matter at AE instead of in an amendment, but my decision to raise it as a possible amendment is based on advice given by arbitrators and administrators. In addition to the diffs from Jclemens I posted in my response to you in the amendment thread, EdJohnston has warned us before that it's a bad idea to raise requests related to R&I at AE. Even though he points out the advice is not compulsory, I definitely have had the experience that involvement at AE about R&I is strongly discouraged as long as my topic ban is in effect. -] (]) 23:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

: Thanks for the explanation. By way of an explanation of my comment, in my view we must always establish whether an amendment or clarification could be better handled within a community forum. I understand that you have been directed to contact the Committee directly with this issue, and in any case I would certainly not criticise you for submitting such an amendment request, but I remain unconvinced that this cannot be handled as an enforcement action. However, I will reconsider your request when my colleagues have had a chance to review the thread, and it could be that we must handle this directly. Irrespective of the content or phraseology of Mathsci's comments at the amendment page, I would counsel you to be careful in your participation in that thread going forward, because I imagine we will take a dim view of unprofessionalism from you, Mathsci, or Captain Occam (as I am sure you do not need reminded!). Regards, ] </nowiki>]] 23:20, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you for your advice. I have slightly reworded my explanation at the amendment thread for clarity. -] (]) 23:38, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Mathsci's now brought the issue to AE himself. I'm sure AE doesn't want to see two threads at once about the same dispute, but maybe this one will be sufficient to handle it, since his hands seem clearly "unclean" here. In any case, if the current AE thread can't resolve it, do you think that would mean this is better handled by Arbcom? -] (]) 16:35, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, stranger!

Hi, Arcticocean,

No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.

Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, Liz 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

You might want to change the target page for the redirect on User:Arcticocean. Liz 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, the archive bot had buried your message away. I've just restored it.
And stay away from noticeboards – was better advice ever given to a Misplaced Pages editor? :) arcticocean ■ 13:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 2010 Shanghai fire

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Editor experience invitation

Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in participating here? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this PROMO AUTOBIO for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. arcticocean 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks for noticing this. We created this template as part of a drive to refresh the WikiProject, but the planned use of the template did not materialise. I have now tagged it for speedy deletion: the deletion is clear-cut and does not necessarily require a TfD. Thanks again, arcticocean ■ 12:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Alt account

Hey. Is this actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. Spicy (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. Better safe than sorry! arcticocean ■ 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, DaniloDaysOfOurLives! arcticocean ■ 17:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)