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			About me:

			'''Chris Watkins'''
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			'''What I do''': Wiki & open knowledge consultant, and a director of the Appropedia Foundation, which runs ] (]), wiki for sustainability, appropriate technology & international development. ] says more about my passions - in particular, international development, water and sanitation, sustainability, global public health, appropriate technology & renewable energies.

			'''Oh, Misplaced Pages...''': I'm concerned that Misplaced Pages is losing its civility. I'm concerned that there's not enough encouragement, too much deletion rather than organized efforts to improve articles. I'd like to see deletion as a good faith process, ] or moving pages to userspace rather than officiously deleting them.

			'''Wikiholics unite''': On Misplaced Pages, I've contributed , including 2800-ish in mainspace and . I do ] on ], though my main role there, as a director, is supporting the community and working on partnerships.

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			===Collaborations===
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			''I sometimes post questions & point out problems in articles at:''<br>
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			Note sure what to do with this...''']''' - interests and opinions.<br><br>

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	=== Interesting...===		=== Interesting...===

			==== Issues with help ====
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			*] - an economist with interesting ideas about ]s. I must find some more good economics podcasts (like the excellent ). (If you have recommendations, please .)
			*] - defended the innocent at My Lai.
			*]
			*]... This is great! I don't have to watch the whole boring episode to find out what happens!
			*] - one of the influences behind the ] project.
	*] - critic of standard approaches to development & aid.		*] - critic of standard approaches to development & aid.
			*] - wrote about population & natural resources. An optimist.
	*] - 18th Century Italian women had surprising freedoms.		*] - 18th Century Italian women had surprising freedoms.
			*] founder and head of Suntech Power. Someone who's really doing something about solar power.
	*] has a very amusing section of '''Favourite quotes from the Misplaced Pages'''.		*] has a very amusing section of '''Favourite quotes from the Misplaced Pages'''.
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			*] - one of the people who worked on the polygraph (lie detector) - (one component of it, anyway), also created Wonder Woman, with her lasso of truth. Note the section "Development of Wonder Woman". Surprisingly kinky. -->

			====A few users with similar interests====
			*], ], ] - sustainability.
			*] - water.
			*] - mosquito control.
			*Some people who seem to be interested in developing country issues... ], ], ]...
			*] - Australian economist, somewhat lefty, who appears in the news occasionally.
			*] - a fellow ], it seems, with some overlap of interests.
			*]
			...and many, many more of course.

			==== user pages that I will probably get around to browsing, some time... ====
			*] - the creator.
			*]... if Jimbo's the creator, then Larry might be the devil, in some kind of gnostic view of co-creation followed by conflict. That's if I understand ], which I probably don't.
			*] - some interesting links.

	==== bits from Misplaced Pages ====		==== bits from Misplaced Pages ====
	:During the ], when calls for political reform or ''reformasi'' in Indonesia led to the resignation of President ], Malaysian satirists Instant Cafe lampooned a government broadcast in which 'Malaysians are reminded that ''reformasi'' is an Indonesian word, which has no equivalent in Bahasa Melayu.' (])		:During the ], when calls for political reform or ''reformasi'' in Indonesia led to the resignation of President ], Malaysian satirists Instant Cafe lampooned a government broadcast in which 'Malaysians are reminded that ''reformasi'' is an Indonesian word, which has no equivalent in Bahasa Melayu.' ()

			====from elsewhere:====

	====From elsewhere:====
	Javanese poetry (the translation needs some work though...):
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	~~had~~ ~~animosity~~<br>		differed in opinion<br>
	equally ~~glorious~~<br>		equally powerful<br>
			both corpse<ref>My own attempt at rendering the poem, drawing from '']'' and </ref>
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	==== Wikis other than Misplaced Pages ====
	* - what happens when everyone can write and revise the law?

	=== What I do on Misplaced Pages ===		=== What I do on Misplaced Pages ===
	*Work on ] & ] articles		* Work on ] & ] articles
	*Put <sup>]</sup> on articles (using {{tl\|fact}}). I've even used it on things I wrote myself, and very happy when someone ].		* Put <sup>]</sup> on articles (using {{tl\|fact}}). I've even used it on things I wrote myself, and very happy when someone ].
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	*Promote love, joy, peace, etc (or try to).
	*Do any minor edits I see that need doing, ask questions that seem to need asking.
	*Get distracted a lot.

	Read ].

	I accept that I won't agree with everything I see done in Misplaced Pages. But one thing that I don't like is excessive linking. Links should be relevant to the context. E.g. dates shouldn't always be linked - see ].		I accept that I won't agree with everything I see done in Misplaced Pages. But one thing that I don't like is excessive linking. Links should be relevant to the context. E.g. dates shouldn't always be linked - see ].
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			* Promote love, joy, peace, etc (or try to).
			* Do any minor edits I see that need doing (if I have a fast connection at the time)
			* Ask questions that seem to need asking.

			I think about one day doing more on other topics I want to learn about... so I'd be learning, researching, adding well-verified information when the articles are too skinny, and making suggestions on the user page... but not taking a strong position on what should and shouldn't be in the article. These topics include:
	<!-- Contributing to: mainly the English language site, but also -->
			* A few of the articles in ]. Institutions such as ]s, and practices such as ] & ] - I'm really not sure the latter are a good thing, though I suspect some variation of them would enable some people at some times to engage in the economy when a cash-based economy would not.

			<center>Read ].
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	My key links: ] · ] · ] · ] · ]

			'''] · ] · ] · ] · ]'''
	Handy links: '''] · ] · ] · ] · ] · ] '''

			My key links: ] · ] · ]'''
	] describes where I am now and what I'm up to.

			'''General editing: ] · ] · ] · ] · ] · ]'''

			'''Specific: ] · ] · ] · · ] · ] · ] · ] · ].'''
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	===Something cool about Misplaced Pages===		===Something cool about Misplaced Pages===
	When English speakers see the words "" we probably think: cool, it's free, I don't have to pay. I realised that there more to it when using the . For "free" it didn't use the word ''gratis'' (no cost), but rather ''bebas'' (as in free from restrictions). Actually, both meanings are true of Misplaced Pages.		When English speakers see the words "" we probably think: cool, it's free, I don't have to pay. I realised that there more to it when using the . For "free" it didn't use the word ''gratis'' (no cost), but rather ''bebas'' (as in free from restrictions). Actually, both meanings are true of Misplaced Pages.

	===Translating===
	Sometime in 2006 I want to initiate some translations from English into Indonesian for the , focusing on articles that I think are very relevant to Indonesian development, such as ]-related articles and ]. I'd like to see the same articles edited for the ], and I'll make a start on these sometime in 2006, I expect.
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	Please! Make it pretty, make it readable, fix the formatting... or steal the code for your own page (and check ]'s page - that's where I got a lot of my ideas). Don't vandalize, but have fun! A list of ] may help, plus ].

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About me:

Chris Watkins

What I do: Wiki & open knowledge consultant, and a director of the Appropedia Foundation, which runs Appropedia (Misplaced Pages article), wiki for sustainability, appropriate technology & international development. My Appropedia homepage says more about my passions - in particular, international development, water and sanitation, sustainability, global public health, appropriate technology & renewable energies.

Oh, Misplaced Pages...: I'm concerned that Misplaced Pages is losing its civility. I'm concerned that there's not enough encouragement, too much deletion rather than organized efforts to improve articles. I'd like to see deletion as a good faith process, transwikiing or moving pages to userspace rather than officiously deleting them.

Wikiholics unite: On Misplaced Pages, I've contributed more than 6000 edits, including 2800-ish in mainspace and 70-ish new articles. I do much more editing on Appropedia, though my main role there, as a director, is supporting the community and working on partnerships.

putting myself in boxes: My blog: Pablo Garudaa
Joint blog: Appropedia Foundation blog

This user is a native speaker of the English language.

id-4

Pengguna ini mampu bersumbangsih dengan bahasa Indonesia mendekati penutur ibu.

ms-3

Pengguna ini boleh menyumbang dengan taraf yang baik dalam Bahasa Melayu.

en-sg-2

This user's Singlish not very good lah.

es-1

Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel básico de español.

de-0

Dieser Benutzer hat keine Deutschkenntnisse.

MEng

This user has a Master of Engineering degree.

UNSW

This user is a student or graduate of the University of New South Wales.

This user lives in the Australian state of New South Wales.

More userboxes.

Very, very occasionally, I contribute to the Misplaced Pages in Indonesian (user page) and even more rarely, in Malay (user page).

The places:

Spent decades:

Spent years:

Spent months:

Spent a week or more:

Visiting soonish:

Would love to visit... please someone invent carbon neutral travel!	...and every other country.

Ancestry:

	Idea pinched from Grutness who lifted from Moriori who half-inched from Calton who nicked it from Salsb who stole it from Guettarda who borrowed it from White Cat

This is a Wikipedia user page.

If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. The page may be outdated and the user may have no connection with the site you are viewing. The original page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chriswaterguy.

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Wikiholic alert.
"My username is Chriswaterguy and I am a wikiholic." I cancelled my plans to live and work in China when I learnt they blocked Misplaced Pages. ~~I often read non-fiction books and mark things that I want to put into Misplaced Pages.~~ I now read blogs and ask the writer to consider using an open license so we can adapt it for Appropedia, I'm a registered user of about ~~10 wikis~~ (I've stopped counting, but way more than 10). Yes I'm an addict. No, it's not a problem. I'm going to take a break, just as soon as I finish editing this... Maybe I need a 12 step program... We admitted we were powerless over wiki-editing and our lives had become unmanageable. Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him/Her/It/Them. When that failed, we took responsibility for our own actions. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. Admitted the exact nature of our wrongs. Made a list of all the new experiences we had passed up because we were in a wiki-editing vortex, and became willing to try them all. Left the computer occasionally, in order to meet attractive people in real life, and flirt with them. Continued to take inventory and when we were wrong promptly reverted it. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Her, praying only for knowledge of Her will for us and the power to carry that out. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to wikiholics. Realized the irony of creating this notice.

Wikiholic alert.

"My username is Chriswaterguy and I am a wikiholic."

I cancelled my plans to live and work in China when I learnt they blocked Misplaced Pages.
~~I often read non-fiction books and mark things that I want to put into Misplaced Pages.~~ I now read blogs and ask the writer to consider using an open license so we can adapt it for Appropedia,
I'm a registered user of about ~~10 wikis~~ (I've stopped counting, but way more than 10).

Yes I'm an addict. No, it's not a problem. I'm going to take a break, just as soon as I finish editing this...

Maybe I need a 12 step program...

We admitted we were powerless over wiki-editing and our lives had become unmanageable.
Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him/Her/It/Them.
When that failed, we took responsibility for our own actions.
Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Admitted the exact nature of our wrongs.
Made a list of all the new experiences we had passed up because we were in a wiki-editing vortex, and became willing to try them all.
Left the computer occasionally, in order to meet attractive people in real life, and flirt with them.
Continued to take inventory and when we were wrong promptly reverted it.
Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Her, praying only for knowledge of Her will for us and the power to carry that out.
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to wikiholics.
Realized the irony of creating this notice.

Collaborations

This user is a participant in WikiProject International development.

This user is a participant in WikiProject Environment.

WikiProject Climate change · talk
WikiProject Energy development · talk
WikiProject Water purification · talk
WikiProject Urban studies and planning · talk
WikiProject Countering systemic bias · talk
WikiProject Community · talk

I sometimes post questions & point out problems in articles at:
WikiProject Business and Economics · talk.

To leave me a message, click the "talk" tab, or Use this link

Note sure what to do with this...More - interests and opinions.

Interesting...

Issues with help

A few users with similar interests

User:Ericbritton, User:LRG, User:Curtbeckmann - sustainability.
User:Vortexrealm - water.
User:Georgedappilly - mosquito control.
Some people who seem to be interested in developing country issues... User:Improv, User:Anthere, User:Ethanz...
User:John Quiggin - Australian economist, somewhat lefty, who appears in the news occasionally.
User:Guaka - a fellow CouchSurfer, it seems, with some overlap of interests.
User:Earthmytemple

...and many, many more of course.

user pages that I will probably get around to browsing, some time...

User:Jimbo - the creator.
User:Larry Sanger... if Jimbo's the creator, then Larry might be the devil, in some kind of gnostic view of co-creation followed by conflict. That's if I understand Gnosticism, which I probably don't.
User:Kierant - some interesting links.

bits from Misplaced Pages

During the May 1998 Revolution, when calls for political reform or reformasi in Indonesia led to the resignation of President Suharto, Malaysian satirists Instant Cafe lampooned a government broadcast in which 'Malaysians are reminded that reformasi is an Indonesian word, which has no equivalent in Bahasa Melayu.' ()

from elsewhere:

Javanese poetry
hana caraka data sawala padha jayanya maga bathanga	knights differed in opinion equally powerful both corpse

My own attempt at rendering the poem, drawing from Javanese script and this Indonesian translation

What I do on Misplaced Pages

Work on development-related & sustainability-related articles
Put on articles (using {{fact}}). I've even used it on things I wrote myself, and very happy when someone replaces one with an excellent link].
Promote love, joy, peace, etc (or try to).
Do any minor edits I see that need doing (if I have a fast connection at the time)
Ask questions that seem to need asking.

I think about one day doing more on other topics I want to learn about... so I'd be learning, researching, adding well-verified information when the articles are too skinny, and making suggestions on the user page... but not taking a strong position on what should and shouldn't be in the article. These topics include:

A few of the articles in Category:Alternative economy. Institutions such as Cooperatives, and practices such as Local currency & Local Exchange Trading Systems - I'm really not sure the latter are a good thing, though I suspect some variation of them would enable some people at some times to engage in the economy when a cash-based economy would not.

Read why I'm enthusiastic about Misplaced Pages.

My pending tasks · My sandbox · My scratchpad · My areas of interest · My notes on Appropriate technology

My key links: Appropriate technology · Appropedia · site

General editing: Guide to layout · How to write a great article · How to edit a page · Some articles on editing · Citing sources · Forum for Encyclopedic Standards

Specific: Cleanup resources · Stub types · Prettytable · Help:Table · Divbox · Web colors · userboxes · Format templates · AutoWikiBrowser.

Something cool about Misplaced Pages

When English speakers see the words "" we probably think: cool, it's free, I don't have to pay. I realised that there more to it when using the Indonesian Misplaced Pages. For "free" it didn't use the word gratis (no cost), but rather bebas (as in free from restrictions). Actually, both meanings are true of Misplaced Pages.

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