Misplaced Pages

:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals: Difference between revisions - Misplaced Pages

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
< Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Stub sorting Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 13:32, 7 April 2006 edit81.4.163.134 (talk) →{{Cyprus-geo-stub}}← Previous edit Latest revision as of 22:27, 9 December 2024 edit undoPegship (talk | contribs)Administrators141,469 editsm archiving aug-oct 
Line 1: Line 1:
<!-- {{backlog}}-->
]
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/header}}
{{shortcut|]}}
{{WSS}} {{shortcut|WP:WSS/P|WP:WPSS/P}}
{{WikiProject Stub sorting navbar}}
⚫ On this ] subpage, you can propose new stub types ('''please''' read ] beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also propose anything else related to stubs in ].
{{archive box}}
⚫ On this ] subpage, you can propose new stub types ('''please''' read ] beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the ].


==Proposing new stubs - procedure== == Proposing new stub types – procedure ==
Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to ] for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{tl|Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. '''This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.'''
⚫ {| cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" style="background: #f7f8ff; border: 1px solid #88a; padding: 5px; font-size: 80%;"

⚫ {| cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" style="background: #ffffcc; border: 1px solid #addfad; padding: 5px; font-size: 120%;"
|- style="text-align: center;" |- style="text-align: center;"
| style="width: 88px; padding-right: 6px;" | | style="width: 88px; padding-right: 6px;" |
| style="background: #ccf;" |'''Proposing new stubs''' | style="background: #addfad; font-size: 120%;" |'''Proposing new stub types'''
| style="width: 88px; padding-left: 6px;" | | style="width: 88px; padding-left: 6px;" |
|- |-
| colspan="3" |If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow the following procedure: | colspan="3" |If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
#Check the ] or under {{cl|Stub categories}} to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
#List it ''at the top of the current month's section'', under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp ('''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'''). #List it ''at the top of the current month's section'', under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp ('''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''').
#* Please mind that a stub-category isn't about importance or notability of the topic #* Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
#Find a good number{{ref|good_number}} of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that tag. Each of these articles can be: #Find a good number{{ref|good_number}} of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use ; tagged stubs are always in {{cl|All stub articles}} and transclude {{tl|asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
#* currently be marked with '''stub'''; #* currently marked with {{tl|stub}};
#* currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one); #* currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
#* a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable; #* a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
#* not marked as a stub. #* not marked as a stub.
#If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
#Others will do the same, if they feel like it. #Others may do the same, if they so desire.
#One week after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and template following the format on ]. List the new stub type on ] in an appropriate section. #5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on ''']'''. List the new stub type on ] in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
⚫ <small>{{note|good_number}}. ''Good number'' means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if associated with a ], though this figure may vary from case to case.</small>
#If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an ''upmerged template'' in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.
⚫ |}


'''DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at ].''' The proposal page is only for stub types that have ''not yet been created'', and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. ] is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.
==Proposals, April 2006==


⚫ <small>{{note|good_number}} ''Good number'' means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a ], though this figure may vary from case to case.</small>
==={{tl|Cyprus-geo-stub}}===
⚫ |}
See Cyprus-stub
4:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)]

<!--New proposals to the top, please -->

==={{tl|Scotland-castle-stub}} / {{cl|Scottish castle stubs}}===

This would be a subcat of ]. There are about 50-60 castle articles in that stub category already. There are more that are not stub tagged at present, such as ], ], ]. Also, ] is now underway, and this stub cat would be a good way of organising progress. ] 12:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:Not ''brilliantly'' happy with this, but it's only a very weak oppose. We've started to split England by region rather than structure type, so it would make sense to do the same with Scotland - but there are country-specific stadium stubs, so castles wouldn't be too strange a split. The WikiProject is a point in its favour too, but there are only 230 Scotland-struct-stubs in total, which is a fairly low total to need a split. I'm willing to be swayed, but is it too difficult to sort through the current category? ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 12:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


=== "Speedy creation" ===
==={{tl|British Columbia-stub}} / {{cl|British Columbia biography stubs}}===
A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:
*S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
*S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope.


List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.
Two Canadian provinces already have their own stubs – Quebec and Ontario. There are a large number of articles that are stubs that would fit best into a “British Columbia-stub” (but not into the BritishColumbia-geo-stub). I suspect a good number of vancouver-stub articles more properly belong under a “British Columbia-stub”. For example, ] more properly belongs under a “British Columbia” stub than a Vancouver stub, because the reasons for his notoriety are not limited to his years in Vancouver. Other articles suitable for a BC stub include (in no degree of importance or order) ] and ], ], ], ], ], ], ] and ]. ] 03:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2024/December}}
:A {{tl|BritishColumbia-stub}} (as per naming guidelines there's no space) ''might'' be useful, especially since there is a Vancouver project with its own stubs - this would be a natural parent of it. Also you didn't mention NovaScotia-stub. BUT it wouldn't be for biographies. Biographies shouldn't be split by province - they're always split by nationality and profession, and if there are bio-stubs in the Ontario-stub, Quebec-stub, NovaScotia-stub and Vancouver-stub ccategories they should be removed from them. A BritishColumbia-stub for the other things you mention might well be useful though. Do you think you can scrounge together 60 stubs? ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 08:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2024/November}}


<!-- Please only add new entries to the top of the page. Thanks! -->
=== Stub for Swiss Rail ===
We should create a Swiss railway stub such as follows:
{{tl|swiss railway-stub}} (''unsigned comment by ]''.)
:To keep the name consistent with the other similar stubs it would be {{tl|Switzerland-rail-stub}}... Are there 60 (or close to 60) articles that can use this? ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 23:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


<!-- Please don't edit or remove anything below this line-->
==={{tl|Auto-bio-stub}} / {{cl|Auto biography stubs}} ===
]
There are several bios currently in ] (about 15), there are many stubs in ], some in ], and maybe a few from ]. I haven't counted the unique ones up, but there should be at least 30, and this would be attached to ]. --] 21:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:That's a little light. While there's a degree of dispensation for Wikiprojects, I'm not sure how open-ended it should be as regards ''multiple'' stub-types per project. (Notorious examples spring to mind.) I'd support creating a template, only, merged to {{cl|Automobile stubs}}, to facilitate sorting these, though, and future splitting to a separate stub category when it hits a more-normally-splittable number. ] 22:03, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, for what it's worth, I went through and counted the unique ones listed above, and I count [[User:Interiot/Sandbox/auto-bio-stu

Latest revision as of 22:27, 9 December 2024

Before proposing or creating a new type of stub, please read How to propose a new stub type.
Shortcuts
WikiProject Stub sorting
Information
Project page talk
- Stub types (sections) talk
- Stub types (full list) talk
- To do talk
- Naming conventions talk
- Redirects category talk
Misplaced Pages:Stub talk
Discussion
Proposals (A) talk
- Current month
Discussion talk
Criteria (A) (discontinued) talk
Deletion (Log) (discontinued) talk
Category

Archives
Archive 1

On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

Proposing new stub types – procedure

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Misplaced Pages:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, December 2024

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

NEW PROPOSALS

Category:Prehistoric neornithine stubs

Proposed template: Template:Paleo-neornithine-stub 274 articles

This is needed because not all prehistoric birds are birds.

If the template is created, Template:Paleo-bird-stub will be used on far fewer articles, as it will only be used on articles for non-neornithine avialans. Grey Clownfish (talk) 06:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

As long as the folks at the birds project are willing to sort stubs accordingly, I have no opinion on the matter. I leave it to those who understand the taxonomy. Her Pegship (?) 19:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Bucerotiformes-stub

48 articles

Template will add Category:Bird stubs, not Category:Bucerotiformes stubs, as there are only 48 articles. However, I think 48 is sufficient for a template. It's worth noting that most these currently, though incorrectly, use Template:Coraciiformes-stub. Grey Clownfish (talk) 09:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Support upmerged template. Her Pegship (?) 22:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposals, November 2024

Category:Mathematics organization stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create.
72 stubs are currently tagged with {{math-org-stub}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 09:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Support speedy. Her Pegship (?) 22:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:Centrarchiformes stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create.
Over 60 stubs. —Trilletrollet 00:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:Acropomatiformes stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create.
Over 80 stubs that need a category and template. —Trilletrollet 23:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:Labriformes stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create.
Proposing a category and template for Labriformes, since there are currently over 100 stubs that could use it. The subgroup Labridae already has a stub category, so it would make sense for the order to also have one. —Trilletrollet 17:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Template:Struthioniformes-stub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus.
9 articles that need Template:Struthioniformes-stub:

The template will add Category:Bird stubs rather than Category:Struthioniformes stubs, as there are only 9. Grey Clownfish (talk) 07:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Please have a look at the guidelines for creating new stub types; generally it isn't efficient to create a new type until there are at least 60 articles that would use the type. Her Pegship (?) 00:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Hence why I only want the template to be created, and not the category. We have stub templates for other bird orders, even if there are less than 60 pages that need them, so that's why I'm proposing these ones. Grey Clownfish (talk) 06:15, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Struthioniformes and its several sub-cats contain only 32 articles, only 9 of which are stub sized (listed above), and 7 of these are already tagged as {{paleo-bird-stub}}. Personally, I don't think even a stub template is merited at this time - perhaps if the category and sub-cats show some growth/interest in the future it might be useful. Anyone else have an opinion? Her Pegship (?) 22:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Already tagged with Template:Paleo-bird-stub is not a reason, because not all prehistoric birds are birds. Grey Clownfish (talk) 07:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
As I know more about stub sorting than I do about prehistoric "birds", I will not argue that point. I still think that 9 articles is too small a quantity to merit even a stub template. Her Pegship (?) 22:01, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Template:Rheiformes-stub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus.
3 articles that need Template:Rheiformes-stub:

The template will add Category:Bird stubs rather than Category:Rheiformes stubs, as there are only 3. Grey Clownfish (talk) 07:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Please have a look at the guidelines for creating new stub types; generally it isn't efficient to create a new type until there are at least 60 articles that would use the type. Her Pegship (?) 00:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Please feel free to discuss this and other proposals at the talk page. Her Pegship (?) 23:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Template:Apterygiformes-stub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus.
4 articles need Template:Apterygiformes-stub:

The template will add Category:Bird stubs rather than Category:Apterygiformes stubs, as there are only 4. Grey Clownfish (talk) 07:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Please have a look at the guidelines for creating new stub types; generally it isn't efficient to create a new type until there are at least 60 articles that would use the type. Her Pegship (?) 00:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Please feel free to discuss this and other proposals at the talk page. Her Pegship (?) 23:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Upmerge Template:Falconiformes-stub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was upmerged.
There are only 12 articles with Template:Falconiformes-stub, because Accipitriformes is no longer considered Falconiformes. So please get rid of Category:Falconiformes stubs and make Template:Falconformes-stub add Category:Bird stubs instead. Grey Clownfish (talk) 06:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I have upmerged {{Falconiformes-stub}} to Category:Bird stubs as suggested. If you want Category:Falconiformes stubs to be deleted, please propose it at CfD. Her Pegship (?) 01:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Upmerge Template:Tinamiformes-stub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was upmerged.
Category:Tinamiformes stubs has only 15 articles. Grey Clownfish (talk) 06:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I upmerged it, as I found that it was listed on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types/Science as upmerged, so if I didn't upmerge it, I would have to update that information on that page. Grey Clownfish (talk) 15:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Upmerge Template:Procellariiformes-stub

Category:Procellariiformes stubs has only 38 articles. Grey Clownfish (talk) 06:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Upmerge to Category:Bird stubs? Her Pegship (?) 00:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Upmerge Template:Charadriiformes-stub

Category:Charadriiformes stubs has only 42 articles. Grey Clownfish (talk) 06:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Upmerge to Category:Bird stubs? Her Pegship (?) 00:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Upmerge Template:Pelecaniformes-stub

Category:Pelecaniformes stubs has only 45 articles. Grey Clownfish (talk) 07:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Upmerge to Category:Bird stubs? Her Pegship (?) 00:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Acanthuriformes stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create.
S1: Template:Acanthuriformes-stub is used on more than 60 articles. And the subgroups Acanthuridae and Chaetodontidae already have stub categories. —Trilletrollet 01:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Support speedy creation of category. Her Pegship (?) 00:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:Carangiformes stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create.
S1: Template:Carangiformes-stub is used on more than 60 articles. —Trilletrollet 01:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Support speedy creation of category. Her Pegship (?) 00:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Category: