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			== Åland Islands ==
	''It was ] this article be renamed but the procedure outlined at ] did not appear to be followed, and consensus could not be determined.''
			ASSOCIATE MEMBER --> 09/11/2021
			https://en.unesco.org/countries/aland-islands
			https://en.unesco.org/countries
			--] (]) 16:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

			== Proposal to improve the "activities" part ==
	==History and UN status of UNESCO==
			{{edit COI\|ans=y}}
	Woefully inadequate. When was it actually founded? What is its precise UN role and formulation (agencies, funds, trusts, conferences, organisations, etc etc, all have different mandates, roles, governance). John Manoochehri 14:31, 21 June 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			Hi,
			Here is a ] part.
			Could you proofread it?
			Thank you a lot,
			Regards,
			(] (]) 13:28, 9 March 2023 (UTC))

			:@]: The major issue in your proposed article/prose is the lack of ] ''and'' ] sources throughout. Almost every reference is either a UNESCO-affiliated site, or UNESCO-published book/journal, etc. Please see Misplaced Pages's ] <span class="nowrap">—''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 16:10, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
	==Incorporation request==
			::Hello '''],'''
	could someone please incorporate this news item into this article? :) ] 19:19 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)
			::This document aims to correct the "activities" part of the UNESCO page, which is not up to date. Therefore, the information includes only a small part of the subjects dealt with by the organisation.
			::The aim of this work is to enrich the existing content and to correct it.
			::In order to be as accurate and concise as possible, the work is based on 164 sources, and since we are talking about UNESCO's activities, the most reliable sources are mainly publications or research produced by UNESCO on the subjects concerned. However, in order to comply with the rules of the platform, 50 sources out of 164 sources are secondary references, whose researchers, authors or journalists are not affiliated with UNESCO. These sources represent a total of more than 30% of the references used. They have been carefully selected and come mainly from ResearchGate, JSTOR, Cairn and also include links to the websites of the major events mentioned.
			::I hope that this clarification will best explain the high regard I have for the rules of the platform and I remain at your disposal for any discussion on this subject.
			::Regards,
			::<nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki> ] (]) 14:17, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
			:::Hi, I have been busy for the past few days due to real life commitments, so I've added a {{code\|<nowiki>{{edit COI}}</nowiki>}} template at the top of this section for other editors to have a look at it. Thanks! <span class="nowrap">—''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 16:10, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
			::::Hi '''],''' thanks! ] (]) 16:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
			:::::] '''Not done:''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> Please cite ''secondary'' and ''independent'' reliable sources. Best regards, -- ] (]) <small>(]) (])</small> 19:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
			::::::Hello ], thank you for your help. I have reduced the number of sources and added new ones. The majority are now independent, reliable and secondary sources. Does this work for you? Best regards, ] (]) 16:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
			:::::::Hello, @], does it work for you know? ] (]) 14:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
			:{{od\|10}}
			I would review this, but I don't see where the proposed text is. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the '''{{tlx\|request edit}}''' template's answer parameter to read from '''{{para\|ans\|yes}}''' to '''{{para\|ans\|no}}'''. Thank you! Regards, <span style="font-size:75%;border:3px solid red;border-radius:60px">]</span> 23:13, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

			:Thank you very much @] if you are still willing to review it, you can find it here in my sandbox : ]. Kind regards, ] (]) 12:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
	==List John Bowker as consultant?==
			::The proposed text needs to be placed here on the talk page. Regards, ] 20:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
	The fact that John Bowker is a consultant to UNESCO doesn't seem like a terribly important fact to list on the UNESCO page. UNESCO has many consultants. (Googling for "consultant to UNESCO" returns 607 results; searching for "consultant to UNESCO" and "bowker" returns 14.) ] 21:16, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

			== South Korea in enhancing inclusion by promoting equality in culture and cultural heritage ==
	Regardless of your belief about the importance of this, Bowker is a consultant and thus belongs on a list of consultants. So Ill readd it. ]

			South Korea in enhancing inclusion by promoting equality in culture and cultural heritage ] (]) 11:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
	Not every fact belongs in an encyclopedia, only relevant ones. The fact that one particular guy is a consultant to UNESCO is not really relevant to the UNESCO article, so it doesn't belong there. But, it's not particularly important enough to get into an edit war so I'll just leave it. ] 14:49, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

			:Can u send me some information
	I am not terribly interested in reading a list of UNESCO consultants. Is there really something most unusual about John Bowker that distinguishes him from the other "ordinary" consultants?
			:About this topic ] (]) 11:12, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

			== We the people in the USA are very tired of seeing the monkeys in Cambodia being so terribly mistreated.. ==
	==Article name==
	Per ], the most common name should be used for the article title. I very much doubt that "United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization" is more common than simply "UNESCO". Any objections if the article is moved?—] 12:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

			Hello, I don’t know if this is the proper place to write but I’m so desperate for your help if you could possibly help. The past couple of years I have been getting videos of baby primates in Cambodia being so abused. Their being terribly abused,neglect,beaten, emotionally depressed, and sexually abused I don’t follow or like these videos I have blocked around 1,200 of them but they change names and back on….. I have learned I think these monkeys are endangered monkeys in that country. I know they have monkey farms their also and the poachers takes all the adult primates to the monkey farms for money,they ripped away these babies from their mothers and show up in boxes at the people’s homes where they dress them up cute or very mean to them even trying to drown them in some videos to make money off the videos than when they get to big they drop them out like trash in Angkor Wats Temple park, these poor babies maybe 3 months old they wasn’t taught no kind of survival skill how to hunt for their food nothing!! This is when KT and her husband comes in and they start videoing these abandon young primates for their videos to make money..they cause more fights at the park there she brings one bottle when there is 4-6 babies that’s hungry and they are fighting over one bottle to make people so upset and mad where it causes ugly fights with people on their videos and most monkeys gets badly hurt….. this is when WCPO comes in and they scream donations donations donations, now they want money!! Now everyone knows what’s going on now we know WCPO isn’t real when they claimed to be a vet, hospital but can’t give you their address or the name of the veterinary why should you hide this kind of information not unless your doing something illegal!! All of this is causing terrible fights on their videos it’s been threats name calling it’s terrible…. You see most of this hateful animal abuse doesn’t go against facebook community standards BUT it goes against my STANDARDS I’m against animal abuse!! I suffer from depression PTSD and I hate seeing this coming across my stuff.The people in Cambodia and it’s government officials and the King should want their country to be beautiful for people to come on vacation but all it’s doing is keeping many away. I sure hope this is settled fast or I’m going to sue the country for my health it’s causing me some bad problems I don’t like..I’m writing the President of the UNITED STATES next. I sure hope you can put a end to this mess!! Thank you, Cynthia Collier ] (]) 11:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
	:You should have kept reading for a rule more specific to this case. "Avoid the use of acronyms in page naming unless the term you are naming is almost exclusively known only by its acronym." Unlike ], ], and ], the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization is certainly not '''only''' known by its acronym. ] 21:02, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

	::But it is "almost exclusively known" by its acronym, which is what the guideline actually says. ] 21:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

	:::I don't think so! 10% of links to the page are spelled out... 90% isn't "almost exclusively" in my book... but maybe it is in others'. ] 04:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)


	:Yes. News stories routinely refer to "UNESCO" without explaining what the acronym stands for... just go to http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=UNESCO and you can see that almost no news stories in major news media expand the acronym. This is very similar to ], which is also at the non-acronym version, and also very similar to ]; perhaps not coincidentally, NASA and AIDS and UNESCO are all pronounced as words rather than spelled out as individual letters, and unlike "UN" or "WTO", there is no other "UNESCO" that could cause confusion or require disambiguation.

	:See also the "use common names section" of ]: the most common name is indeed "UNESCO". We routinely use the most common name, thus for instance ] and not "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" (which probably exists but only as a redirect to ]).

	:The article seems to have been at "UNESCO" for a while, and you changed it to the full version only today. Given that there is some difference of opinion, I would suggest that the best course of action would be to leave it there for now and request a name change discussion at ]. -- ] 22:27, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

	:There are also about 1700 incoming links from other Misplaced Pages articles, and the vast majority of them link to ] or ] (more than 1500) and only a small fraction (maybe one tenth or less) link to expanded versions of the acronym ("Organization", "Organisation", etc). -- ] 22:36, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

	::But one-tenth means that it isn't "almost exclusively" known by the acronym as the guideline says. I'm sure that the portions for ] or ] would be less than one-hundredth. It's too bad that the guideline isn't more specific. ] 04:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

	===>'''My two cents''' This, like all other UN agencies, should have its longform name. -], ], ] 17:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

	==Language template poll==
	A poll as to whether or not the language template should be included in this article is being conducted at ] ] 19:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

	== opening statement of article ==
	needs to be neutalized. Please don't revert this edit unless you can show this first statement as fact. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=United_Nations_Educational%2C_Scientific_and_Cultural_Organization&action=submit#Controversy_and_reform ] 12:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
	:Can you then please state here the questionable opening statement, with your reasons, and perhaps proposed alternative? ] 07:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

	er ==

	I've created a page on ]. Please review and help expand it. The magazine also may be noted in this article.

	] 19:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

	== Access to ICT ==

	Can someone please fix the link to ICT in this article? It now points to the disambiguation page. ] 16:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)vbvbgh

	== Logo in Firefox ==

	Hello all,

	Are any other users of the Firefox browser having a hard time being able to see the UNESCO flag image? It loads fine when it is clicked on, however navigating to the article page usually has a blank space apparently; have tried disabling the firewall but the problem remains - this is Firefox 2.0.0.6. Thanks! -- ] 08:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
	:I've just tried it in Firefox and <s>three</s> four other browsers: same result. --] 10:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

	== UNESCO logo composed of 3 parts ==

	The use of the name and logo of UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, is subject to rules laid down by the governing bodies of the Organization.


	The UNESCO logo block is composed of three parts:
	1. the emblem - the temple - including the UNESCO acronym;
	2. the complete name (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) in one or several languages;
	3. a dotted line in a logarithmic progression.
	These components cannot be disassociated.

	Consult:
	http://www.unesco.org/en/logo <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Fixed, by user ] --] (]) 15:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

	::*Those "rules" look to have been designed with use of the logo to imply association with UNESCO in mind. From the Basic Rules section: "This rule must be respected when the UNESCO logo block is used by all its stakeholders and partners."
	::I'm not trying to say that Misplaced Pages should not use the UNESCO logo graphics in the standard form. I am saying that the above comment by ] (officious tone with some sort of vague threat undercurrent) was not helpful. Chill, dude.
	::] (]) 01:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::As we seem to have agreed to use the standard form of the logo, may I just note that the display of the organization's six languages is also regulated? Details . edit reverted accordingly. --] (]) 23:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)( these things are totally wrongG!!)

	== Practicalities ==

	What is apparent as you travel in the third world is the immense good done by UNESCO in countries that lack higher-level education apparatus and lack cultural conservation institutions. The article seems to miss that. It's a significant oversight as it answers the question why UNESCO was worth reforming rather than simply disbanding. ] (]) 06:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

	unesco is a very very organization <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Official languages in infobox ==

	I cannot figure out how to make an attractive and functional hideable section for the other languages at the top of the infobox (like the one at ], which is unfortunately based on a different template). I am going to remove them to this page until someone has a good idea. The problem is that the name is quite long in some of the languages, which upsets the formatting of the box. Most UN Org pages seem to have only the English name, with the exception of ], which has a short enough name not to cause trouble. Languages other than the official six have no place there at all, such as the Greek and Persian that were recently added.

	]: {{lang\|ar\|منظمة الأمم المتحدة للتربية والعلم والثقافة}}<br>]: {{lang\|zh\|联合国教育、科学及文化组织}}<br>]: {{lang\|fr\|L’Organisation des Nations unies pour l’éducation, la science et la culture}}<br>]: {{lang\|ru\|Организация Объединенных Наций по вопросам образования, науки и культуры}}<br>]: {{lang\|es\|La Organización de las Naciones Unidas para la Educación, la Ciencia y la Cultura}}

	] (]) 20:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
	:Thanks for the fix. Is only having the one language a big problem? As pointed out by User:C nooij, ], the logo block should have the name in "in one or several languages". Just English, on the English Misplaced Pages, won't be a problem if you can't sort the image. --] (]) 21:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

	== UNESCO template ==

	Can we have a template linking the series of programs/listings under the administration of UNESCO? For starters, we can include links for the World Heritage, Biosphere Reserve, Memory of the World, Geoparks, and Intangible Heritage. Then, let's work our way from there if some other projects have extensive coverage in wikipedia. ] (]) 11:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

	==Secularism==
	I think UNESCO has a reputation for being an international center of secularism. For instance, it helps write civics courses in which value pluralism and cultural relativism are emphasized. It also contributes to sexual education courses for children all over the world. . ] (]) 01:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

	==Controversy==
	I think that election of Irina Bokova, a former communist leader from Bulgaria, marks a steady decline in UNESCO's implementation of own policies and guidelines.] (]) 23:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

	:Good luck getting a controversy section though. There's probably all sorts of questionable things UNESCO, like many other UN organs... ] (]) 05:35, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

	::UNESCO's change in politics and their cozying up to industrialized nations', as well as a new-found political "correctness" in selecting their topics do get talked about. It might make sense to add a section on this somewhere in the article. ] (]) 19:43, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

	== Non sequitur ==

	'As a consequence of its entry into the United Nations, the People's Republic of China has been the only legitimate representative of China at UNESCO since 1971.'
	This statement not only isn't terribly relevant where it is placed in the article, but hints at a bias towards Mainland Chinese nationalism. The following sentence is also of rather dubious relevance to the whole of the article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== U.S. funding and Palestinian state ==

	This story in the Wall Street Journal, discusses the Palestinian request for UNESCO to recognize Palestine as a state:

	OCTOBER 29, 2011

	"Two U.S. laws, passed in the early 1990s, require the U.S. to cease funding in any U.N.-affiliated body that accepts Palestinian membership. The U.S. accounts for 22% of Unesco's budget, by far its largest source, amounting to $71.8 million for 2011."

	This issue probably belongs in the article. What are those two U.S. laws? --] (]) 14:55, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

	As it looks right now, the US is withdrawing funding because Palestine is recognized by UNESCO as a member. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/umstrittener-un-antrag-unesco-nimmt-palaestina-als-vollmitglied-auf-1.1177506
	It really is puzzling, because such a membership does not affect US policies at all, and does not even imply that Palestine can be full member of the United Nations. Other nations have joined UNESCO before without being a full member of the United Nations. And now in the aftermath of the "Arab spring" it seems even weirder, twisted, really. And who created these US laws that address UNESCO membership of other nations? ] (]) 21:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

	:I think you will find the following links helpful in answering that question:
	:*101st Congress (1989-1990), H.R.2145.RFS
	:* -- To provide for the withholding of United States contributions to the United Nations, any specialized agency of the United Nations, or any organization affiliated with the United Nations... ] (] 22:35, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

	== Israel ==

	The "Israel" section of this article seems biased to me. I feel like we are only seeing the "pro-Israeli" side of the story here, not necessarily an analysis of the facts. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:On first appearances the section does not look good. A ''controversy'' section tends to lend undue weight to negative aspects. ] (]) 00:18, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

	:There is no "pro" or "anti" section. There is only fact. The fact that UNESCO is being targeted for political purposes.

	-G <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:58, 4 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== UNESCO observers, Palestine vote sources? ==

	Can someone provide the following sources:
	*voting breakdown in the 58-member sub-committee vote (we have ], but I don't see a source for it)
	*voting breakdown in the main UNESCO vote (we have ], but I don't see a source for it)
	*the text of the membership application - ] "presented by 24 states requesting that the State of Palestine be granted membership" - who are these 24 states and what wording is utilized in the application?
	*the text of the membership decision

	Also, it's written that there are "3 Permanent Observers and 10 intergovernmental organizations with Permanent Observer Missions to UNESCO." - who are those 13 UNESCO observers?

	''This is posted also ].'' ] (]) 08:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

	:*Sean Lee has the full vote tally on his blog The Human Province: http://humanprovince.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/unesco-palestine/ ] (]) 00:03, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

	== US stops financial contribution to UNESCO after Palestine vote ==

	This is not a newspaper, nor is it an Arab white paper. It is an encyclopedia. That does not belong first in the article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:At the moment the article states
	:{{quote\|In 2011, Palestine became a UNESCO member following a vote in which 107 member states supported and 14 opposed. Laws passed in the United States in 1990 and 1994 mean that it cannot contribute financially to any UN organisation that accepts Palestine as a full member. As a result, it will withdraw its funding which accounts for about 22% of UNESCO's budget.}}
	:I think it is worth including because of how it could effect UNESCO's budget. ] isn't what the article needs. Putting it in its own section and right at the start gives it far too much prominance. ] (]) 00:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

	:The survivability of UNESCO, and it being used by the US as a political tool is VERY relevant to the article.

	-G <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:56, 4 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	At the time I commented, it was the first section in the article with a heading of its own, giving the matter undue weight, whatever your political agenda, unless you are some sort of rabid pro-Arab nutbar, which I contrive to think a Wikipedian is not for my own peace of mind. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:49, 5 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== budget ==

	I guess the infobox template does not allow a budget addition. Anyways, if I'm reading the data right UNESCO has an annual budget of . Need some editors to check the document again to make sure the numbers are right. I could be wrong. So far the budget of UNESCO isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 04:35, 4 November 2011 (UTC)F

	== Wikileaks ==

	This section, added today, seems to be an example of off-topic ], more suited to inclusion, if anywhere, on the ] page itself (where it isn't discussed at all). Why is it here, please? --] (]) 12:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

	Agree and removed --] (]) 12:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

	:: a fix, thanks. --] (]) 12:35, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

	There is no discussion here. You just claim, that this is a case of ] without giving any argument for it. It is relevant today and it will be relevant in 10 years time, that the UNESCO is holding a conference on Wikileaks and is excluding every speaker of that organization for that conference. Julian Assange is right: This is an Orwellian absurdity beyond words and it will still be 10 years in the future. --] 13:35, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

	:::Well, yes, but you "just claim" that it ''will'' be relevant in 10 years time. The usual way forward is to find an independent, ] that asserts notability; it wouldn't specifically have to relate the conference to UNESCO's international scope and ninety-year history, but that's the theme of the article. In the meanwhile, I doubt that anybody would find this irrelevant on the ] page, whence it's still absent.

	:::Thanks for coming to join the discussion.

	:::--] (]) 15:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

	::::Thanks for your reply. Now that we both made our claims, why don't you need any evidence for your claim, that this controversy will not be relevant in 10 years time? And how is the Palestinian youth magazine controvercy more relevant, than holding a conference about Wikileaks while excluding all Wikileaks speakers? Please discuss any issues about the ] page on its talk page. --] 16:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
	:::::Yeah, that one could be seen as a bit tenuous as well, but ] probably applies. As regards the Wikileaks addition, it is, after all, the contributor who brings the source to the party: see ]. I have no inclination whatsoever to comment on the Talk:WikiLeaks page, but thanks for the suggestion. --] (]) 17:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
	::::::Here is my colletion of international news reports so far:
	::::::# India: "The Hindu" http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article2900422.ece
	::::::# Italy: "La Republica" http://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/2012/02/16/news/wikileaks_unesco_assange-29998442/?ref=HREC1-36
	::::::# Spain: "ABC" http://www.abc.es/20120216/medios-redes/abci-wikileaks-asalta-unesco-201202161546.html and http://www.abc.es/agencias/noticia.asp?noticia=1105207
	::::::# USA: "International Business Times" http://it.ibtimes.com/articles/27308/20120216/wikileaks-unesco-conferenza-portavoci-polemica.htm
	:::::: Just in case you wonder, whether those newspapers are big enough: "The Hindu" has a higher circulation than the "New York Times". And yes, ] states that sources in foreign languages are valid. Can you find that many sources for the Palestinian youth magazine controvercy? --] 19:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
	{{outdent\|:::::}}
	Thanks for those—isn't Google translate useful? The examples certainly allow an inference of notability, but an inference is akin to ] and we can't rely on that.

	But luckily we don't have to: The guideline distinguishes between "established articles that are bloated with event-specific facts at the expense of longstanding content, … considered a Misplaced Pages fault" on the one hand and "producing encyclopedia-quality articles in real time about ongoing events" on the other. ] is an article about a longstanding institution, whereas ] is about a real-time ongoing event. The material seems fully acceptable in the context of that "real-time ongoing event" and my original question—why here and not on the ]—remains unanswered.

	I'd be very happy to join you in looking at the Palestinian youth magazine material, at some stage, but I can't manage more that one thing at a time, these days. --] (]) 21:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


	::Haven't you already conceded, that ] applies for the discussion about the ] article? Please put your discussion about that article on its talk page, thank you. Regarding ], I don't see how adding the Wikileaks conference controversy would be at "expense of longstanding content". I don't plan to remove any longstanding content. ] certainly doesn't apply. Here is another article from the 2nd largest Spanish newspaper El Mundo: http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/830601.html --] 10:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

	:As I've said on this talk page before, I feel that a ''controversy'' section places too much emphasis on a particular point of view; moreover it encourages further introduction of similar material as readers may see the section and feel that since that's the layout of the article then it should be encouraged. Not that controversies shouldn't be mentioned, but surely it should be worked into the narrative of a ''history' section or something similar where a balanced view of the organisation's history can be presented. That might help weighing up whether these individual incidents, such as the youth magazine mentioned above, is really worth including.
	:On this particular issue, it seems to be just another news story and not that significant (yet). Wikileaks makes good news stories and the subject of freedom of speech is guaranteed to generate interest among readers, but just because it's got coverage doesn't make it noteworthy and I support Denic's removal of the subsection. I feel that in any case there was far too much on the incident, which supports the argument that recentism is an issue, and it surely could have been summarised in a sentence or two. Perhaps it's worth mentioning in the Wikileaks article, but it doesn't seem that important in an article about UNESCO itself. ] (]) 21:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
	::How is it, that you consider that controversy "not that significant (yet)"? For the Wikileaks controversy we have "The Hindu", "La Republica" and "El Mundo" reporting, whereas the Palestinian youth magazine controversy is only sourced with a single "The Telegraph" article. If it's not coverage that makes something noteworthy, what would make it noteworthy? How do you decide?--] 10:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

	Here is another source ("The Independent") reporting on the controversy: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/wikileaks-takes-aim-at-an-unlikely-new-victim-unesco-6989034.html#disqus_thread How many sources do you need before you recognize, that it is notable? --] 12:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

	There are no grounds for removing materials related to the UNESCO 'Wikileaks' Conference controversy as long as they are appropriately sectioned. ] (]) 08:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
	:Would you care to expand, or is that just a ]?--] (]) 10:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
	::I'm sorry ], but you lost the argument. There are now at least five major newspapers reporting that story, which does make it noteworthy. At least more noteworthy than the Palestinian youth magazine controversy. This shows an imbalance in the controversy section of ]. We now either have to remove that controversy or we add the Wikileaks controversy in order to fix that.--] 19:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
	:::Happy to see the back of the youth magazine funding story. No objection at all. --] (]) 08:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
	::::Why is that? Do you want the youth magazine controversy removed, because you don't want the Wikileaks controversy added?--] (]) 20:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Proposal to improve the "activities" part

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hi, Here is a proposal to improve the "activities" part. Could you proofread it? Thank you a lot, Regards, (E.poul (talk) 13:28, 9 March 2023 (UTC))

@E.poul: The major issue in your proposed article/prose is the lack of secondary and reliable sources throughout. Almost every reference is either a UNESCO-affiliated site, or UNESCO-published book/journal, etc. Please see Misplaced Pages's guideline on usage of primary sources —CX Zoom 16:10, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello CX Zoom,

This document aims to correct the "activities" part of the UNESCO page, which is not up to date. Therefore, the information includes only a small part of the subjects dealt with by the organisation.

The aim of this work is to enrich the existing content and to correct it.

In order to be as accurate and concise as possible, the work is based on 164 sources, and since we are talking about UNESCO's activities, the most reliable sources are mainly publications or research produced by UNESCO on the subjects concerned. However, in order to comply with the rules of the platform, 50 sources out of 164 sources are secondary references, whose researchers, authors or journalists are not affiliated with UNESCO. These sources represent a total of more than 30% of the references used. They have been carefully selected and come mainly from ResearchGate, JSTOR, Cairn and also include links to the websites of the major events mentioned.

I hope that this clarification will best explain the high regard I have for the rules of the platform and I remain at your disposal for any discussion on this subject.

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(~~~~) E.poul (talk) 14:17, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I have been busy for the past few days due to real life commitments, so I've added a {{edit COI}} template at the top of this section for other editors to have a look at it. Thanks! —CX Zoom 16:10, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi CX Zoom, thanks! E.poul (talk) 16:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Not done: Please cite secondary and independent reliable sources. Best regards, -- Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 19:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Johannes, thank you for your help. I have reduced the number of sources and added new ones. The majority are now independent, reliable and secondary sources. Does this work for you? Best regards, E.poul (talk) 16:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, @Johannes Maximilian, does it work for you know? E.poul (talk) 14:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

I would review this, but I don't see where the proposed text is. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you! Regards, Spintendo 23:13, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much @Spintendo, if you are still willing to review it, you can find it here in my sandbox : User:E.poul/sandbox/UNESCO (activities). Kind regards, E.poul (talk) 12:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

The proposed text needs to be placed here on the talk page. Regards, Spintendo 20:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

South Korea in enhancing inclusion by promoting equality in culture and cultural heritage

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We the people in the USA are very tired of seeing the monkeys in Cambodia being so terribly mistreated..

Hello, I don’t know if this is the proper place to write but I’m so desperate for your help if you could possibly help. The past couple of years I have been getting videos of baby primates in Cambodia being so abused. Their being terribly abused,neglect,beaten, emotionally depressed, and sexually abused I don’t follow or like these videos I have blocked around 1,200 of them but they change names and back on….. I have learned I think these monkeys are endangered monkeys in that country. I know they have monkey farms their also and the poachers takes all the adult primates to the monkey farms for money,they ripped away these babies from their mothers and show up in boxes at the people’s homes where they dress them up cute or very mean to them even trying to drown them in some videos to make money off the videos than when they get to big they drop them out like trash in Angkor Wats Temple park, these poor babies maybe 3 months old they wasn’t taught no kind of survival skill how to hunt for their food nothing!! This is when KT and her husband comes in and they start videoing these abandon young primates for their videos to make money..they cause more fights at the park there she brings one bottle when there is 4-6 babies that’s hungry and they are fighting over one bottle to make people so upset and mad where it causes ugly fights with people on their videos and most monkeys gets badly hurt….. this is when WCPO comes in and they scream donations donations donations, now they want money!! Now everyone knows what’s going on now we know WCPO isn’t real when they claimed to be a vet, hospital but can’t give you their address or the name of the veterinary why should you hide this kind of information not unless your doing something illegal!! All of this is causing terrible fights on their videos it’s been threats name calling it’s terrible…. You see most of this hateful animal abuse doesn’t go against facebook community standards BUT it goes against my STANDARDS I’m against animal abuse!! I suffer from depression PTSD and I hate seeing this coming across my stuff.The people in Cambodia and it’s government officials and the King should want their country to be beautiful for people to come on vacation but all it’s doing is keeping many away. I sure hope this is settled fast or I’m going to sue the country for my health it’s causing me some bad problems I don’t like..I’m writing the President of the UNITED STATES next. I sure hope you can put a end to this mess!! Thank you, Cynthia Collier 12.75.8.59 (talk) 11:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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