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OK, talk about what I do here. I'm afraid I will be mostly a lurker! ] | |||
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Samboy, I understand why you are offended by the images, but Misplaced Pages tries to cover many subjects that many, including me, find offensive. In relation to the specific subjecr, the images (which I posted) and are mild compared to many and are important to the topic of the article. | |||
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Anyway, welcome to Misplaced Pages. Since it seems you haven't been welcomed yet, let me do so now. You may especially want to see the ] section if you haven't already. Cheers! ] | ] 19:46, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks for the kind words. I have a somewhat flameful comment in the talk section for, what is to me a (and probably 99% of people) ]. I am all for NPOV, but in my opinion, in ]'s opinion, in ]'s, and in ]'s opinion, those images just don't belong here in an online encyclopedia. | |||
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:Child molestation is one of those horrible and evil things which damages a person for their entire life, and, quite frankly, having these kinds of images in this encyclopedia can ''easily'' be viewed as an endorsment of ]. | |||
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::Hi Samboy, you've hit on the point. The entire subject is disgusting. How long ago did you first come upon the article? Until I and GBWR and Ed Poor happened on it, it was a surreal apology for pedophilia, which essentially said: "We are your friends and neighbors. Most of us mean no harm to your children except that we want to change the law, society, education, and parental rights so that we can liberate them and incidentally allow us to have sexual access to them." | |||
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::Misplaced Pages standards do not allow the article to be deleted (you could try listing on VfD, but I'm afraid you might be shocked by the response). What we do is try to move it to NPoV. That means that, if the article accurately reflects what people in the movement say and advocate, it is appropriate material. That does ''not'' mean it can be posted without balance and criticism. As to the specific pictures, let me tell you why they are important. The article attempts to make pedophilia seems like just another sexual preference which should not be controversial. The images, from the movement's own literature, shows what advocates really do. Delete the images, and you delete an important perspective for the non-pedophilic reader. The images are not pornographic and not, in and of themselves, disgusting. It is what they accurately ''imply'' that disgusts people. That is why it is so important they remain in the article. -- Cheers! ] | ] 20:11, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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:::I hit the page by hitting on "Random Page", which is my home page in Firefox. Can NPOV articles be hit by the "Random Page" link? I am, of course, a little hurt that an edit of mine was reverted, but I try to be balanced about it by putting up a relevent paragraph on the talk page in question. In a case of an article like this, I think the only real NPOV is to say, in polite terms, "This is a bunch of BS abusive people use to justify their behavior". Considering that four people, including myself, have deleted these images in just the last week, it is obvious that these images strike a very discordant chord with many people. My first reaction was, "My God, Misplaced Pages has pedophiles who get off on pictures of little kids and revert people's attempts to remove such images". Again, thanks for you POV. ] 20:23, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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:::OK, compromise edit. I've moved one of the images down, and added a warning at the top. ] 20:48, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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gedday guys... sorry for any terseness... this shit doesn't leave me in a good mood... tommorow I may be a bit more chipper. The images are a kick in the guts aren't they? I guess i'd say I was 'strongly ambivilant'. ] definitely thinks they should go though... ] 13:09, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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Nova Roma has some 2000 members around the world, many of whom are respected academics, archaeologists, linguists and students of history. That is hardly a 'small hobby group'. | |||
I don't know if it applies or not, but I've tried to file for a third opinion regarding the wording of Marvin Minsky's window's claim, per ]: | |||
Atlantium is a large global organisation with around 1000 members in dozens of countries,including serving and former diplomats, senior government officials, scientists and political activists. It has received extensive press, radio and TV coverage - including by Reuters (worldwide), ZDF TV (Germany), BBC Radio (worldwide), The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia), The Guardian (UK) and many, many others. Furthermore its representatives have been officially received by the UN's High Commissioner for Refugees' Working Group on Indigenous Peoples in Geneva, by the President and former Vice President of Brazil and by the former President of the Dominican Republic - amongst others. To describe it as 'a group of friends' is wildly incorrect.--] 11:40, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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::Can you back this up with references? And, oh, coupld you please not be so hot-headed; I know you're hurt that people want to delete ], but I don't think being hot-headed does much to resolve the issue you have, nor endear others to agree with your point of view. This is Misplaced Pages, not ]; flaming is actually bad form over here. :) Keep in mind that a number of people feel that micronations are essentially a silly fantasy gone awry. ] 11:46, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
I field the issue as 'Disagreement over the use of the term "all of the visits to Epstein's residences".' Regards, ] (]) 22:26, 10 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
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::::I asked for light, not heat. In other words, you would help your cause a lot more if you provided actual references, instead of flaming everyone who disagrees with you. ] 12:15, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC) | |||
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Samboy I apologize for my wording at the Biden Talk page. I was operating from frustration and have no real excuse. I will update my entry. I am not always the best with wording, so it might take me a bit, but I wanted to get this out here first. Regards. --Davemoth (talk) 20:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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I field the issue as 'Disagreement over the use of the term "all of the visits to Epstein's residences".' Regards, Rolf H Nelson (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hello Samboy, I’d like to add Mary McCarty Snow to the user list in the ARP 2600 article, but I can’t figure out how to add the footnote. She composed with the ARP 2600 and actually wrote a book about it:
Snow, Mary (1977-01-01). The waveform music book: Composing, teaching, performing electronic music with the Arp 2600 synthesizer. Lariken Press.
Could you explain how to add the footnote, or point me towards instructions? Thanks. T. E. Meeks (talk) 21:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a reference backing up their use of the 2600? information on the Misplaced Pages should always be referenced. Samboy (talk) 00:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
SPI FYI
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/5n4nek4 --JBL (talk) 23:21, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it looks like they finally filed an unblock request. A blank one, mind you, but they filed one. We’ll just have to block their IP range from making new accounts for a while and block any other sock puppets they make. Samboy (talk) 13:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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—for taking BLP seriously. Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 17:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Greg Bear
Thanks for your recent work on the article. If you have a moment, Astrid Bear's Facebook page is filling up with heartfelt tributes from those who knew him and have stories to share. --Pete (talk) 21:07, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have done so. Samboy (talk) 12:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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