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*Kept by a ], then unilaterally speedied by ]. Recommend restoration. ] (]) 10:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


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*TfD is irrelevant, the question is it it a valid T1? Is it 'divisive or inflammatory'? You decide. I say yes, '''keep deleted'''. Do you think it is not divisive>? --] ] 10:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' Quite clearly a T1 deletion, also wasn't unilaterally deleted by Sean Black another editor had tagged it for deletion. --]<sup>(<font color="mediumseagreen">]</font>)</sup> 10:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' as Pgk and Doc. ] ] 11:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*Keep deleted (If I'm allowed to, seeing as how it was my deletion) per my rationale in the deletion summary and on Stifle's talk page.--] <sup><font color="#FC0FC0">]</font></sup> 13:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' - per above. This is a clear application of T1. --'''<font color="#0055aa">]</font>''' 13:25, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''', T1 all the way. ] ] 13:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''', this is why we made T1 -- ] 13:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Restore''', informs other users of said user's biases.--<tt>]</tt> ]]] <small>(])</small> 14:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
**How is that a valid reason to overturn a speedy deletion? It's still divisive and inflammatory. There's lots of potential things you could do or say to "inform other people of your biases" that are nevertheless illegal in most jurisdictions. --'''<font color="#0055aa">]</font>''' 14:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' - valid T1, as above, below, etc. - divisive template. -]<sup>(])</sup> 14:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' for the obvious reason. Please stop wasting our time with these obvious losers. ] (]) 15:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*Purely out of interest, how does one multilaterally speedy something? --]<sup>]</sup> 15:39, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*:A unilateral action is one taken by a single person without the support of anyone else. A multilateral action is one taken with the involvement and/or support of other people. ] 15:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
::This is basically the proposed new policy that, unlike articles, categories, images and other templates, userboxes are so precious to Misplaced Pages, and such a loss when deleted, that they should enjoy the special privillage of a unique exemption from speedy deletion. I'm surprised no-one has formally suggested it, it is such a cool idea. --] ] 16:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
:::'''+1, Insightful''' --] 16:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' Per Doc glasgow. -- ''''']'']'']''''' 16:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' Where were all you people when I was getting harangued for voting to delete it in the first place? :] --] 17:25, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' — ] ] ] <font face="Comic Sans MS" colour="navy" size="-1"><b>]<font color="green">]</font>] <sup>(] • ] • )</sup></b></font> 21:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Undelete.''' The deletion is invalid because it is in no way divisive in the sense intended by CSD-T1. ] 01:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
**Sorry, but this isn't a vote. You haven't addressed any of the substantive issues as to why you think T1 should be overriden in this case. I'd love to hear why you think this template isn't divisive. --] 01:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
**It is a vote, brevity is not a basis for disenfranchisement (so don't even think about it, see below).
*'''Undelete''' No evidence has been presented for users taking offense at the sight of this template (besides the anti-userbox party).--'''] <FONT FACE="Symbol">Ω</font> ]''' 05:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Restore''' such userboxes are not divisive (in that they create divisions) they merely illuminate divisions which already exist. Unless the only people to edit the encyclopaedia are opinion-less robots it is dishonest for us all to pretend not to have a POV. However, the encyclopaedia articles should be kept free of POV and this is facilitated by everyone else knowing what consistitutes a particular editor's biases. ] 05:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep Deleted''' An expression that the editor is in favor of denying a basic human right to people, ''including fellow Wikipedians'' is divisive and inflammatory...a T1 bulls-eye. ] 06:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Undelete''', not divisive ] 07:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep Deleted''' - how can this not be divisive? --] 16:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


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Recommend restoration with a TFD, perhaps, unilaterally speedied by ]. ] (]) 10:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
| <div align="center">] of templates can be done by administrators under ] if the template falls into this category (often referred to as T1): '''Templates that are divisive and inflammatory.'''
*'''Keep deleted''' as above, and to be even-handed. --] ] 10:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' as above, again another editor had tagged for deletion so wasn't unilateral. --]<sup>(<font color="mediumseagreen">]</font>)</sup> 10:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' as above. I'll point out that there's no method for two editors to delete something&ndash;there's no bilateral deletion here. Pgk is quite right that someone else had tagged it first. ] ] 11:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*Keep deleted per Doc and Pgk.--] <sup><font color="#FC0FC0">]</font></sup> 13:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' - per above. This is a clear application of T1. --'''<font color="#0055aa">]</font>''' 13:25, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''', T1 all the way. ] ] 13:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''', again, this is why we made T1 -- ] 13:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Restore''', informs other users of said user's biases.--<tt>]</tt> ]]] <small>(])</small> 14:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
**How is that a valid reason to overturn a speedy deletion? It's still divisive and inflammatory. There's lots of potential things you could do or say to "inform other people of your biases" that are nevertheless illegal in most jurisdictions. --'''<font color="#0055aa">]</font>''' 14:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' - valid T1. If there were ever two divisive templates, I think we've found them. -]<sup>(])</sup> 14:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' for the obvious reason. Please stop wasting our time with these obvious losers. ] (]) 15:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep deleted''' Per above. -- ''''']'']'']''''' 16:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Restore''' — ] ] ] <font face="Comic Sans MS" colour="navy" size="-1"><b>]<font color="green">]</font>] <sup>(] • ] • )</sup></b></font> 21:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Restore.'''] 01:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
**Sorry, but this isn't a vote. You haven't addressed any of the substantive issues as to why you think T1 should be overriden in this case. I'd love to hear why you think this template isn't divisive. --] 01:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
**It is a vote, brevity is not a basis for disenfranchisement (so don't even think about it). I do not need to supply a reason other than ''I think this should be restored'', the implicit reason (on this page) is ''invalid T1''. Since you ask, however: it is not divisive in the sense of T1. While the issue may polarize voters, there is no evidence to think that any wikipedians are bothered by the userbox. It is this difference which most admins abusing T1 fail to grasp: divisive politics does not make automatically for a divisive userbox. In this vein, various anti-admin-abuse boxes T1-speedied are also not divisive: most Wikipedians do not mind their existence, even if the underlying politics are potentially divisive. ] 01:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
***Actualy, it is not a vote. It is a discussion to determine whether this is validly deleted under T1. Any comments that do not address that issue (or call for deletion/undeletion on other grounds) may be discounted.--] ] 09:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
***That is a dubious notion. By simply saying '''Restore''', I have said that I think this SD to be invalid, and further indicate my likely view on any subsequent RfD. I may have misunderstood Cyde when he said ''this is not a vote'', as I thought he was specifically refering to my entry, not the process. Nevertheless, you now have my answer: '''the deletion is invalid because it is in no way divisive in the sense intended by CSD-T1'''. BTW, does this mean that all those anti-userbox comments which don't address the T1 issue are somehow discarded as well, such as when deleters speak of the lack of encyclopedic merits or professional appearances, neither of which are relevant to T1? ] 10:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Undelete''' No evidence has been presented for users taking offense at the sight of this template (besides the anti-userbox party).--'''] <FONT FACE="Symbol">Ω</font> ]''' 05:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Undelete''' (I repeat myself to humour ] Such userboxes are not divisive (in that they create divisions) they merely illuminate divisions which already exist. Unless the only people to edit the encyclopaedia are opinion-less robots it is dishonest for us all to pretend not to have a POV. However, the encyclopaedia articles should be kept free of POV and this is facilitated by everyone else knowing what consistitutes a particular editor's biases. ] 05:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep Deleted'''. Valid deletion. ] 06:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Undelete'''--Not divisive. ] 07:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


The following is a proposed T2, but has not become stable: '''Templates designed for user pages that express personal beliefs, ideologies, ethical convictions, or viewpoints on controversial issues.''' (as of 15:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC))
*'''Keep Deleted''' as per other review --] 16:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Archived discussions ==


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== Archived discussions ==
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* ] ( undelete)
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* ] ( keep deleted, ], massive endorsement)
* ], ], and ] Consensus was to keep User Hell (which has already survived TfD), and undelete and TfD the others. 15:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
* ] ( kd, unanimous, ])
* ] & ] ( kd, unanimous, ])
* ] restored by 27-36 majority, will be relisted at TfD in pre-edit war form. 17:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
* ] ( kept deleted. ]. Only nominator for review wanted it undeleted).
* ] ( kept deleted)
* ]: ( keep deleted, ])
* ]: ( kept deleted, closed as frivolous challenge)
* ] ( kept deleted)
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*] ( almost unanimous keep deleted)
*] and others ( nomination delisted early; template kept deleted)
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This process is about userboxes, not about people. If you feel that an administrator is routinely deleting userboxes prematurely, or otherwise abusing their powers, please discuss the matter on the user's talk page, or at Misplaced Pages talk:Administrators.

If you nominate a page here, be sure to make a note on the administrator's user talk page regarding your nomination. A template is available to make this easier:

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Similarly, if you are a administrator and a page you deleted is subsequently undeleted, please don't take it as an attack.

Please take general discussion to the talk page.

Speedy deletions of templates can be done by administrators under Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion if the template falls into this category (often referred to as T1): Templates that are divisive and inflammatory.

The following is a proposed T2, but has not become stable: Templates designed for user pages that express personal beliefs, ideologies, ethical convictions, or viewpoints on controversial issues. (as of 15:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC))



Archived discussions

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