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== Nomination for deletion and merge with WNEM-TV == |
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This article should be deleted and its information added as a subcatagory to the WNEM-TV page. This is not a seperate entity from WNEM-TV and the subject does not posses any relevance to merit its own seperate page. It has the same physical address, broadcasts at the same frequency, the same owner and has the same personnel as WNEM-TV. This is not like WNEM AM which is a different medium, broadcasting on a diffrent frequency with its own seperate license and history. This article is also written without a single citation, unverifiable and contains non-encyclopedic language. |
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-Wxyzdan |
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:Make up your mind, do you want to ] it or do you want to ] it? ] (]) 01:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
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As said above...<br> |
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''This article should be deleted and its information added as a subcatagory to the WNEM-TV page.''<br> |
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Its the same entity not something seperate. The reason for deletion should fall under the Misplaced Pages guideline as a redundant or useless templet. Nearly all of the information on this page is redundent to the WNEM-TV page. The text about WNEM's programming on 5.2 and its cable coverage should be included on the WNEM-TV article. This article also does not site any sources to its information. |
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:Sounds more like a merger proposal to me, as the information in this article will still exist, just as a section of WNEM-TV instead of its own page. Deleting it means it would no longer exist anywhere. Anyways, I '''Oppose''' the move. They're not the same station, they're virtually 2 separate TV stations. TV 5 doesn't air ] shows and My 5 doesn't air ] shows. ] (]) 04:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
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'''Support''' This is dumb, this is the same TV station. None of the other stations on here have seperate pages for there subchannels. This should be deleted. There'd be tons of extra articles out there if we had one for every subchannel. ] (]) 04:33, 22 April 2012 (UTC) |
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:'''Oppose''' They're 2 different entities of WNEM its like merging the chevrolet page into the general motors page!]--(]) 20:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC) |
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::'''support''' per ] subcarrier standard which the subchannel is. Aikidockd, it is more like a car dealer that sells Chevrolet and Buick/GMCs. ] (]) 14:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC) |
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:::No it's not, I agree with Aikidockd. ] is a subsidiary of ], just like ] and ] are; all 4 companies have their own articles. CBS and MyNetworkTV are unrelated and unaffiliated. MyNetworkTV is owned by Fox, CBS isn't. ] (]) 22:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC) |
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::::So what you put forth is that when WNEM had secondary affiliate under the analog broadcast era that there should have been articles: WNEM-CBS, WNEM-UPN, WNEM-WB? No, you just indicate they affiliations and wikilink to those articles. For a grocery store chain doesn't have other articles on each product they have (ie. A&P Coca Cola, A&P hot dogs, etc.). A Car dealership is a single entity no matter how many car brands they sell. For example, ABC Auto Mall, that sells Chevrolets, Fords, Buick and Toyota does not have articles: ABC Auto Mall-Chevrolet, ABC Auto Mall-Ford and ABC Auto Mall-Toyota. Some time subsidaries have enough notability to stand on their own like Chevrolet, Buick, MyNetworkTV. It is meaningless to bring up the ownership of MyNetworkTV, Fox and CBS. WNEM is one licensed entity they not sold WNEM-DT2 to any one else. WNEM-DT2 is not a subsidary of WNEM; it is a part of WNEM like the news programming is not consider fully seperate from the entertainment programming of the station to warrant a seperate article. ] (]) 14:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC) |
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:Well then why does ] have its own article then, it's just a subchannel of ]? Why does ] have its own article, it's just a spinoff of ]? Shouldn't all of the ] and ] affiliates be in one huge article too, they're all owned by the same company? What about the ], the ]'s, and ]'s, ]'s, the other ]/]'s, or any other media conglomerates? Under your reasoning, any channels whose owner is the same should all be in one giant article. Don't you see how ridiculous that is? ] (]) 20:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC) |
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'''Strong and Speedy Oppose:''' - Technically it is in the right place. ] is a CBS affiliate, while ] (it's actual callsign) is a ] affiliate. They are two seperate stations, but operating on the same station via ]. This is the MOS and WP:TVS way of doing things. So, they '''should not be merged'''. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 21:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)</small> |
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:Neutralhomer, You have failed to read ]'s subcarrier/subchannel section. These never get seperate articles. Don't need this discussion except to prevent edit warring. Policy follower should vote '''Strong and Speedy Support'''. |
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:First off answer my questions, TomCat4680. Secondly pointing to the NBC New York Nonstop article is meaningless as it just means that editors have not discover that error (the article is also under a possible merger discuss). That one might be an except to the rule as it being broadcasted by two seperate stations -- a mini-network if you will -- thus the information doesn't need to be duplicated. Network standards are seperate from station standards so CNN/HLN example doesn't match the situation and that is still similar to chevy, Ford, etc. versus ABC Automall example. No, you fail to understand my reasoning, it is that the station is one entity, one license broadcast bandwidth. What they do with that bandwidth is cover within that article. Using part of that bandwidth to broadcast MNT does not catapult it to the status of MNT or CNN, etc. ] (]) 13:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC) |
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:Can't find a MOS for TV Stations, Neutralhomer, nor any mention of a "WP:TVS way" of doing things. ] (]) 13:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC) |
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::@Spshu: First, don't change my !vote; my !vote stands as '''Strong and Speedy Oppose'''. Second, nice job on cherry-picking the ] rule, the full rule is that subchannels '''"generally do not merit separate articles"'''. There is absolutely ''nothing'' in there that says they "never get seperate articles". That does not mean there ''can'' be seperate articles, especially for stations creating their own content (ie: programs, news, etc.) and not just a rebroadcast of a network (like ] stations). I'm sorry, but you don't know as much about television stations and naming conventions as you think you do and the snarky attitude isn't going to get you what you want. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 19:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)</small> |
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