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			== Tehran Instagram Page ==
	==Imam Khomeini International Airport==
	Imam Khomeini International Airport is now open, it is very far from the city which is why it is currently only taking flights from arabic countries, by 2006 summer it will be taking flights from all other countries.

			Here is Tehran Instagram page and good place for Tourism before travel to Tehran
	As of Aug 4, 2005, Saudi Arabian Airlines was operating from Mehrabad. I think only flights to Dubai are from IKIA.--] 17:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

			https://www.instagram.com/tehran
	==Tehran or Teheran==
	I believe it is Tehran, not Teheran, my source being ''Teach Yourself Persian''. But the Persian script doesn't distinguish the two.

			== Firooz Kooh in Greater Tehran?! ==
	==The original Persian spelling==
	The original Persian spelling of Tehran, as I have seen in many sources, was with a Tah (ط), and not a Teh (ت). That can be confirmed by visiting some ''Persian'' pages like , , , , , , , , , and , the latest of which is a letter from ] himself (search for the word طهران on the pages). Although the current Arabic language spelling is the same as the older Persian spelling, anti-Arabic advocates shouldn't be allowed to ignore the history of the word. I will revert the removal of the original spelling by the anonymous user , which was clearly labeled "originally", if no valid opposition comes up here (in, lets say, 48 hours). I seriously believe that bias against the Arabic language should not come in the way of undisputed facts. I also volunteer to find older official documents referring to the city as "طهران" if the need arises. "Nobody that I personally know of, spells Tehran that way" is not proof enough that Tehran was never spelled that way: Nobody I personally know of speaks Swahili either. Does that mean Swahili has never been spoken? ] 22:52, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

			This is the second time that I have to tell @] that Firuzkuh is not part of the metropolitan area. All maps show that this small city is over 100 km away from the Greater Tehran’s urban agglomeration.
	The following paragraph has been heavily refactored to remove personal attacks. When refactoring, I have chosen to err on the side of leniency, allowing questionable-but-not-blatant portions to remain. The “content” of the message has not been changed, merely the inflammatory nature of the wording. ] \| ] 03:59, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

	<table style="border-style:dashed;border-width:2px;border-color:red"><tr><td>Roozbeh, my enquotion of "original" was in jest. The name Tehran is NOT an Arabic name. When the Arabs conquested Iran, they used to arabicize (both in spelling and pronounciation) all Iranian words and names. Later when the Arabic language flousirshed further, many people, including Iranians themselves, would intentionally arabicize as many words as they could in their writings, as a sign of "high education" and how "arabic literate" they are. This trend continued all the way until the end of the 19th century. They would even write french words such as "consul" with the arabic Q as Qonsul. Fortunately, Iranian intellectuals put an end to this . Sadly, however, even to this day there are people in Iran who call this "anti-arabism". It is YOU who is trying to perpetuate something that is clearly WRONG. Furthermore, this is English Misplaced Pages, why do you take your toolbox and go from page to page to page and put your "in Persian" mark on all articles? And as if that isn't bad enough, you want to even include old, WRONG, arabic spelling of words and names, too!!! and this is ENGLISH Misplaced Pages. </td></tr></table>

			If you want to revert my edit, Please provide a RS for verifying this claim.] (]) 21:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
	::I want to mention in the article that Tehran was officially called "طهران" for some time, without trying to guess the reason (which is disputed). Is there anyway to do that in a way acceptable to you? BTW, Persian speakers in Afghanistan still spell and pronounce "consul" with a Ghaf (ق) ''officially''. Letters, languages, spellings, and preferences shouldn't be called stupid, IMO. Misplaced Pages is here to document, not to prefer a certain reform in language or spelling. ] 13:57, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

			== Stop adding images ==
	Mr. Roozbeh, first of all you are wrong, that mispelling of Tehran in Persian has never been "official" as you seem to indicate. However, it is quite official now that that old spelling was wrong and the official spelling is the correct spelling; and this has been established for a myriad of other misspellings of names and words in Persian. Secondly, what are you trying to achieve by including an outdated misspelling of the name of Tehran in an article in English about Tehran? What benefit can this possibly have for anyone to show in the ENGLISH article that for sometime, some people, in PERSIAN, used to misspell Tehran? I just like to understand your logic here, sir. Lastly, as I was reading some of your writings in Persian Misplaced Pages, and as another poster over there had noted and protested to you, your so-called "Persian" is, forgive me for using this word here, nauseating. It is essentially a string of arabic words connected together with thin persian grammar. This is exactly what others over there have complained about your Persian. I wonder if your real name is Roozbeh, as Roozbeh is a Persian name and Mullahs would only give Arabic names to their children. Other than your name everything else about you is indicative of a mullah (or son of a mullah) with Internet access.

			We need to make sure this article can load up with an normal internet connection, even right now there are '''too many''' images... idk why but deleting them is not easy too.. ] (]) 00:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
	The following comment has been refactored to remove personal attacks. ] \| ] 04:01, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

			:Not that this is a country page.... But a good example would be to follow the parent article ] that follows ] , ] and ]. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span>🍁 00:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
	<table style="border-style:dashed;border-width:2px;border-color:red"><tr><td>DO NOT modify my writings in discussion area. This is not the main article, this is just the discussion area. People DO NOT want you to edit what they write in discussion areas. I am sick and tired of arguing with you.</td></tr></table>
			::@] Thanks for your concern. I'm leaving WP for a while, can you please watch this article? A user is kinda destroying this article by adding misleading information. I can not undo his changes anymore and I'm sure nobody gives a "damn" about this article too.. ] (]) 22:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

			== Geography & Administrative set-up ==
	:Actually, we have a page here called ] which advocates that people should do this. ] 21:17, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
			In which Districts and then Rural Districts or Cities are Tehran's 1st and 20th municipal districts in Shemirant and Ray counties? I think this needs a bit more detail than simply stating that they are in those counties, which are quite physically expansive. --] (]) 10:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

			== Ref error ==
	Note to 69.111.53.180 – Your positive contributions are welcome. YOU are welcome here. Inflammatory, personal attacks are not welcome and are against Misplaced Pages policy. Repeated behavior of this nature can lead to action being taken by the community, possibly resulting in a temporary or even permanent ban. If you continue to make personal attacks, it is likely that you will be banned, leaving only those who disagree with you to write the article. Again, you are welcome here, as are your positive contributions. Even disagreement is welcome, as that means you believe you can improve the Misplaced Pages. Please ensure that your conduct is professional, however. You will convince people by the force of your argument, not by the force of insults. ] \| ] 04:03, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

			{{ping\|Iran1234567}} could you please fill in a source for the updated climate data?] (]) 03:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

			== Lead image ==
	:OK SWAdair, thanks. I agree with you. My using harsh langauge will actually work to his benefit and to my own disadvantage. I will respond to him above and yet again, try to reason with him. But trsut me, this person appears to be very unreasonable and stubborn.

			The current lead image shows ], which is not a good representation of a megacity of over 10 million people. I have swapped out that picture with a section of Tehran's skyline, along with the newer image collage standard, but one user keeps reverting the edits without any reasonable justification given. ] (]) 06:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
	Teheran?

			:@] This is not Tehran. This is not how people see Tehran. You are presenting a small and exceptional part of the city as the main view of the city. If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city. In Tehran, this is not the case. Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran. ] (]) 01:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
	Teheran?
			::I came here from the ANI, and I agree with {{u\|LivinAWestLife}} here that a skyline is a much better representation. I completely disagree with your interpretation of this as propaganda. I'll break down your comment:

			::* "This is not Tehran." Objectively this is Tehran in the same way that the skylines of every major city we have an article about are those cities. Because it isn't reasonable to create some sort of 3D render of an entire city to put in the infobox (even if we could, this wouldn't be good for an infobox image), we have to make some sort of compromise to how much we can show, and skylines capture a lot of visual information. If anything, the ] is a much, ''much'' smaller part of Tehran than an entire skyline.
	What kind of moron says "Teheran"? I speak Persian, I've lived in Iran, Tehran and I've yet to see anyone pronounce Teh-ran as Teh-e-ran...
			::* "This is not how people see Tehran." Source? And moreover, source that a single monument, the Azadi Tower, ''is'' "how people see Tehran"? Who are "people" here? I'm people with at least a modest understanding of Iranian culture and history, and I don't see Tehran as a single tower.

			::* "If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city." I have no idea why "Western" was specified here. What does "influencing the entire city" mean? What does "serving the entire city" mean? What are these criteria? Why are they good, useful criteria? Why do you single out articles on "Western cities" as meeting them? Does ] not "serve and influence the entire city" of ]? Does ] propagandize the image of ]? Is our image of the ] for ] in service of the Petro administration?
	- Agreed. I've taken out the bit that says Teheran is more accurate, because it's not what I've heard and I haven't seen any evidence. If someone wants to add that claim back, please provide evidence. - anon, 5 June 2005
			::* "In Tehran, this is not the case." Why does this skyline of Tehran fail these thus-far completely nebulous criteria?

			::* "Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran." Literally any image we present of any major city could be construed as political in some way, because ultimately it is – everything technically is. However, how is showing a city's skyline first over a single monument (which, mind, is still in the infobox) "presenting a better image of Iran and Tehran" in service of "Iranian government propaganda"? Is there an angle of the skyline you think better represents it? Because this one seems extremely good. If anything, shunning a much more representative skyline over a single ]-era monument feels a lot more like propagandizing (even though I want to emphasize that I don't think this is actually a serious concern) than what LivinAWestLife did.
	:There is plenty of evidence in numerous books and sources where "teheran" is used. I think it has to do with the fact that the letter H in Teheran is correctly accentuated to reflect the Persian pronunciation, whereas in Tehran, the H is subdued, making the word sound like "Tay-ron". Anyhow, here is an example of Teheran being used in some older texts: --] 00:31, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
			::Honestly, I find this objection completely nonsensical and so vague as to be essentially unfalsifiable. <b>]</b> ] 11:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

			:::Thanks for summarizing my points with such clarity. I've had back-and-forth replies with Edward on my talk page and he hasn't been able to articulate why he would prefer the Azadi Tower over a picture of the skyline. ] (]) 15:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
	:: That is not evidence at all. It merely shows that the spelling Teheran is widely used ''in English'', which we already know. The question is, what is the ''Persian'' name for the city? If it's '''Tehran''' the letter '''h''' is clearly and distinctly an . This is common in Persian: ''shâh'' 'king', ''shahr'' 'city', have the pronounced.
			:::@] Thank you for your comment. I can see things more clearly... I think the overall positivity of the article made me sensitive to the images. The problem with the article is not the images. Overall, it's the article itself that is overly positive. In this case.. I think the issue is resolved! ] (]) 00:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

			::As I am again stating, I am not a propagandist, which for some weird reason you seem to mistakenly think I am. I heavily dislike the Islamic regime and its influence on the Middle East. I also dislike North Korea, but the lead image on Pyongyang is a picture of the city's skyline, instead of a single image of Ryugyong Hotel or some statue. Wouldn't keeping Azadi Tower also be considered propaganda? Why do you think the skyline image would have any bearing on how people would view the Iranian government (or that the Azadi Tower wouldn't serve as opposition propaganda for the resistance against the government)? It is simply a wider view of the city. If you can find a more appropriate image on Misplaced Pages Commons I would not mind considering that for the lead image. ] (]) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
	Nevertheless, I agree that it should be TEHRAN. But I also think we should mention: "also spelled Teheran in some texts". Otherwise, many people will start thinking Teheran is another city in Iran.--] 09:09, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
			:::@] The suggested image is actually good. In fact, the article itself should be edited later, and images are not a problem. Thank you for working on this article. I hope my behavior did not discourage you from continuing the good edits. ] (]) 00:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

			::::Alright, thanks for replying and for having considered my points. I apologize if I was more aggressive at times in previous interactions. If you dislike the content of the article's text, you are welcome to change it provided it adheres to Misplaced Pages's standards. Thanks. ] (]) 00:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
	This is not dissimilar to the difference between '''Isfahan''' (most common form used in English) and '''Esfahan''' (which more accurately reflects the Persian pronuniciation). As Zereshk has noted, when speaking Persian, '''Teheran''' more accurately reflects the Persian pronunciation, i.e. Tehe-ran (not Teh-e-ran) - in this form, the 'H' is accentuated, as there is a slight 'heh' in the pronunciation. Just thought I would point that out.

	IMHO, the intro should be simplified for now as "'''Tehran''' or '''Teheran'''" as has been done in the article on ]. But also, I am of the opinion that clarifying the proper Persian pronunciation (i.e. stating that Teheran and Esfahan more accurately represent Persian pronunciation, for example) for the reader is important. ] 12:08, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

	- I wrote Teheran on my userpage, it was a while back but I think it's because (and am curious as to why) it's sometimes written as Téhéran in French (where 'h' is a silent letter). -- ]

	== Cleanup ==

	This page is currently mostly a list of attractions. I serisously believe that the attractions should be discussed in one or two paragraphs and the reader referred to a longer page to know more about attractions of Tehran. It seems that an anoymous user keeps pasting these back in. Please consider reverting the article back to the shorter version. ] July 2, 2005 02:54 (UTC)

	== Tourist information ==

	Wow! This page was full of tourist information instead of information about the city itself. Please consider adding tourist information to ] for instead. ] July 2, 2005 03:56 (UTC)

	==Roozbeh's unilateral rewrite==

	'''Every great cultural city in the world must set aside space to introduce its culture. Look at ].''' 75% of their page is about their attractions. ] even has a special section for tourists, aside from its attractions. look at ], ], ], ]. At least half of their pages are about their cultural attractions.

	I seriously think Roozbeh has no right to come around here once in a blue moon and ''gand bezaneh be safheh o bereh''. YANEE CHEE????

	If you think the page is too touristy, then why the hell did you rewrite the whole goddamn page? (and then put a cleanup tag after your own incredibly poor edits??!)

	Mardom zahmat kesheedan eenjaa!!! And all you do is erase stuff you dont like.

	hey zertee meeyaad gand mizaneh be hameh chee.

	Im reverting back and making adjustments to make the page look less "touristy".

	You are free to help with that. But I cant let you rewrite the entire page without the consent of the other editors.--] 2 July 2005 09:28 (UTC)
	:#If you think there is consensus about the way you think the page should be, show me consensus. It is only you who is talking about it.
	:#Please translate all you Persian sentences to English.
	:#As for your allegations in English, I didn't erase anything worthy. I have only moved them to other more appropriate pages and provided links to them. On the contrart, you have removed a lot of my material, including a part on the city governance. ] July 3, 2005 14:22 (UTC)

	::#No pertinent information gets erased from this page and transferred elsewhere. If you think the page is "touristy", then that's your problem. Just look at the cities I mentioned above and compare.
	::#You are free to add material. But not to delete anything unilaterally. I had to revert your edits, because you had totally annihilated the page without keeping any of the former stuff, '''which belongs here on this page'''.
	::#I dont think messing up pages and slapping cleanup tags on them aftwerwards is a very effective way of doing things on Misplaced Pages. As a administrator, you hardly contribute positively to any Iranian articles. Instead of expanding pages, you amputate what others have written and chip away at them, or slap on various unwarranted tags merely to be problematic. ''Your style is highly confrontational'', and I dont appreciate that at all.--] 3 July 2005 22:52 (UTC)
	::::You are very wrong in many details, including following Misplaced Pages policies, but I'm not answering them in detail until you translate your Persian phrases to English. This is not a proper dialog, but simply accusations from your part. ] July 3, 2005 22:57 (UTC)

	::
	::As an Iranian from Tehran, I find this article embarrasingly "travel agency" like and cheap. Most of the pictures are artificial or touched up, there is not a balanced presentation of the city sites and culture and overall, it seems that someone has gone out of his way to present Tehran in a travel agent style "palatable" way for the Western audience. For example, do more people go skiing in Tehran or go to Imam Khomeini's shrine? This, in my humble opinion, is indicative of some sort of inferiority complex and also a pitiable attempt to be "accepted" by Westerners by some Iranians who live in their own little world and who don't have a genuine Iranian identity. I sincerely wish that this article is balanced out. Also, chances are, the same person or people who came up with this gaudiness, have done the same thing on other articles about Iran, too. It seems that ] is suffering from the fact that Tehran is not ], ], ], ], ] .... well, get over it dude, it isn't and it doesn't have to be. And if you go out of your way to present it that way, most people will laugh at you and tell you ..... ZERESHK!! ] 4 July 2005 06:29 (UTC)

	:::Mansour, if you're implying that most Tehranis would prefer to visit Khomeini's shrine rather than go skiing (or doing anything else for matter), then that speaks volumes. I certainly hope this is not what you are implying - in all my life, all the times I have been to Iran, I have never met a single person who actually visited that godforsaken place (yes, I have a POV, but this is the talk, not the article). Fact of the matter is, Tehran is a pretty decadent, lively, and cultured city. We should present Tehran as it really is, and quite frankly, judging by current fashions, trends, music, fast food chains, etc. prevalent in Tehran, "Western" is very much in vogue there (as it is in most other major cities). I don't see that as a bad thing. You may not like it, but neither does the regime. ] 4 July 2005 10:13 (UTC)

	:::: Good point! ]

	::::: Plus, looking over the current version, most of the so-called, allegedly "touristy" (I disagree, but that's me) information was removed. What's the problem? ] 4 July 2005 10:18 (UTC)

	Mansour,

	Almost none of the pics are touched up, and none are artificial. I took them myself, and I can say where and when. If you like, I can take you to the excat spot, because Im here in Tehran. And I think your idea of posting ghetto pics and men with reesh and chadori women from Nazi-abad and Seh-raah Azari to reflect your idea of the real Tehran is pretty absurd. This is not a political page, and Touchal is just as real as Darvazeh Ghaar.--] 4 July 2005 14:54 (UTC)


	Roozbeh,

	#''Mardom Zahmat mekeshand eenjaa'' means that "people put a lot of effort into writing these pages" that you so disrespectfully erase, edit, and then put up a clean-up tag so that I will have to come and clean up your poor edits, only to have them erased by you again in 2 months with another cleanup tag. Haleet shod? ("get it?")
	#Misplaced Pages admins that get involved in a debate or conflict on a page dont have the right to lock the page. They have to ask another Admin to do so. '''I must ask you to stop abusing your administrative responsibilities in pushing for your personal edits here.'''
	#You are in no position to pop out of nowhere after dozens of people have written this page with care and passion, and decide what is "worthy" to erase and what is not. To fekr kardee kee hasty mageh? ("who do u think u are?")
	#''gand bezaneh be safheh o bereh'' and '' hey zertee meeyaad gand mizaneh be hameh chee'' means that "Roozbeh every once in a while appears out of nowhere and reduces the page to a big pile of crap with his demolishing edits." '''WHICH YOU DO.''' You slapped a cleanup tag on the ] page, even though it was un-necessary accoring to Misplaced Pages rules. You accused my edits on ] as copyright vioed, and yet I had to stop you and show you the exact NLM page that permits the info to be used. And I still remember your first words to me:

	:''"please consider not editing Misplaced Pages at all". (Jan 10th, 2005)'', instead of accepting the fact that Iran is not a signatory to the ] , and '''OFFICIALLY''' does not adhere to International Copyright laws itself, hence no validity to your copyright violation claims.

	As I said, youre a very confrontational editor, and I dont appreciate that.--] 4 July 2005 14:54 (UTC)

	==Basic information==
	A suggestion: I think the article could use some details of climate, elevation, possibly distance from other major cities etc. ]] 04:26, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

	==Zartushtis==
	ببخشيد, forgive my trepidation on posing my question to this 'lively' discussion page (and for practicing the few Farsi words I know), but I didn't see much about the zartushti community - microscopic as it may be. I probably missed alot, not being as familiar with Tehran as everyone here, but I only saw Firouzeh Palace, Firouz Bahram H.S., and 'fire temples of great antiquity'. Perhaps there really are more Jews than Zoroastrians and surely Azeris, Armenians, and Christians; but I know that alot of Zoroastrians from Yazd have been moving to Tehran for quite a while now. There's a list of Mosques and Churches, but no Fire Temples (which could be 'cause at least you can visit the others). I don't know Tehran well enough to add anything with confidence, but I'm currently writing the Fire Temple (currently named ]) article, and would appreciate any information people could give me. I know Iran has two of what are known in Zoroastrianism as "Atash Bahrams" (I know its persian, but it has a specific significance in the religion). I think at least one is in Tehran if not both. One might be the Adorian-e Bozorg-e Tehran, but I'm not sure (the name suggests so). Finding Irani Zartushti information has always been an extremely frustrating task for me, but if anybody could verify the places in Tehran it might be of interest to others besides me (but not likely-you don't need a big list or anything). In any case, I did correct the spelling of Jacques de Morgan, linked up fire temple (note: I hope to get title changed sooner or later - and article is ''very'' much underconstruction), and corrected the bad Bahram Gur link. خدا حافظ, ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 00:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

	== Allah commands you to stop breathing ==

	Teheran is the most polluted city in the world:
	http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4502406.stm

	== Picture is safe according to user 70.68.185.170 and me ==

	According to user 70.68.185.170 the tehranshomal.jpg image is safe.
	I have this image and I too think this image has Free liscenses and is safe.
	I also hope that the image is safe and we can keep it.- user ]

	:You have to provide proof. Like a source or claim or link or something. Otherwise the editors will erase it.--] 07:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

	== Less Attractions more information and Bigger page ==

	If you look at this page you will see lots of list of attractions as you browse down the page.
	I think we should keep most of the attraction articles but we need to add more stuff like Tehran's Economy, Climate and etc.
	We also need more liscened good photos to be on this page--Wikiwo123 December 27 2005, 12:11 (UTC)

	::I'll condense the list of attractions down. But everyone is welcome to expand the page on the topics ypou mentioned.--] 00:45, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

	== economy ==

	i have added an economy section for this page.Please do not delete the introduction part of the page were it talks about Tehran's industries.

	==Important==
	if you check the history of the tehran article user:69.142.236.131 made a very bad choice to vandalize the page. The following section below contains inappropriate language.
	=== Vandal attack ===
	and they all are terrorists. yea. pretty much not a clean son of a bitch in the whole population. goddamn middle eastern bastards. Ralph Nader peace up A town down lick it hot cracker sheets!. ---hayden--- OUT... and now returning to your regularly scheduled poop.

	Thats what user: 69.142.236.131 right after 98.3% of the residents speak persian part of the page we need to block this user fast fast.! If you need more info check the history of tehran article.--Wikiwo123 Jan.1/06 17:17 (UTC)

	:Well, that's what admins are for!--] 05:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

	== Sorry my bad ==

	The picture in the economy section was a mistake. I meant to put a picture showing commercial buildings in Arjentin Square. ] 20:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

	==Too many images==

	The page is getting saturated with images. The article wont upload properly on many browswers. Please do not post any more images unless you can transfer an image to another page (to prevent it from being lost) and replacing it with a better version. But I'll be watching anyway.--] 22:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


	:: I just wanted to say the same thing as you said Zereshk. The images are beautiful and I just don't want to move them bur they are too many for a page like this. What to you think about making a gallery of Tehran in a different page and upload more pictures in the gallery. It's would be a pretty nice one.
	::I just forgot to sign (] 21:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC))

	:::Right now, the problem is that many of the new images are actually not PD or GFDL. And if we dont remove them now, some admin will sooner or later show up and remove all pictures, PD or not. It's happened before. ] has less than 10 photos in total, and the admins are already complaining about it.--] 00:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

	==Dispute: Demographics and the Turkish population==
	The article is disputed because there are some biased users who keep removing the fact about the Turkish population in the city.http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-6413.html ] 19:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

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Tehran Instagram Page

Here is Tehran Instagram page and good place for Tourism before travel to Tehran

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Firooz Kooh in Greater Tehran?!

This is the second time that I have to tell @Farnaj57 that Firuzkuh is not part of the metropolitan area. All maps show that this small city is over 100 km away from the Greater Tehran’s urban agglomeration.

If you want to revert my edit, Please provide a RS for verifying this claim.PAper GOL (talk) 21:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Stop adding images

We need to make sure this article can load up with an normal internet connection, even right now there are too many images... idk why but deleting them is not easy too.. FreeZoneF (talk) 00:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Not that this is a country page.... But a good example would be to follow the parent article Iran that follows WP:COUNTRYGALLERIE , MOS:UPRIGHT and MOS:SANDWICH. Moxy🍁 00:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Moxy Thanks for your concern. I'm leaving WP for a while, can you please watch this article? A user is kinda destroying this article by adding misleading information. I can not undo his changes anymore and I'm sure nobody gives a "damn" about this article too.. FreeZoneF (talk) 22:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Geography & Administrative set-up

In which Districts and then Rural Districts or Cities are Tehran's 1st and 20th municipal districts in Shemirant and Ray counties? I think this needs a bit more detail than simply stating that they are in those counties, which are quite physically expansive. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Ref error

@Iran1234567: could you please fill in a source for the updated climate data? -- Fyrael (talk) 03:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Lead image

The current lead image shows Azadi Tower, which is not a good representation of a megacity of over 10 million people. I have swapped out that picture with a section of Tehran's skyline, along with the newer image collage standard, but one user keeps reverting the edits without any reasonable justification given. LivinAWestLife (talk) 06:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

@LivinAWestLife This is not Tehran. This is not how people see Tehran. You are presenting a small and exceptional part of the city as the main view of the city. If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city. In Tehran, this is not the case. Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran. Edard Socceryg (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

I came here from the ANI, and I agree with LivinAWestLife here that a skyline is a much better representation. I completely disagree with your interpretation of this as propaganda. I'll break down your comment:

"This is not Tehran." Objectively this is Tehran in the same way that the skylines of every major city we have an article about are those cities. Because it isn't reasonable to create some sort of 3D render of an entire city to put in the infobox (even if we could, this wouldn't be good for an infobox image), we have to make some sort of compromise to how much we can show, and skylines capture a lot of visual information. If anything, the Azadi Tower is a much, much smaller part of Tehran than an entire skyline.
"This is not how people see Tehran." Source? And moreover, source that a single monument, the Azadi Tower, is "how people see Tehran"? Who are "people" here? I'm people with at least a modest understanding of Iranian culture and history, and I don't see Tehran as a single tower.
"If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city." I have no idea why "Western" was specified here. What does "influencing the entire city" mean? What does "serving the entire city" mean? What are these criteria? Why are they good, useful criteria? Why do you single out articles on "Western cities" as meeting them? Does Sükhbaatar Square not "serve and influence the entire city" of Ulaanbaatar? Does Meskel Square propagandize the image of Addis Ababa? Is our image of the CIB for Bogotá in service of the Petro administration?
"In Tehran, this is not the case." Why does this skyline of Tehran fail these thus-far completely nebulous criteria?
"Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran." Literally any image we present of any major city could be construed as political in some way, because ultimately it is – everything technically is. However, how is showing a city's skyline first over a single monument (which, mind, is still in the infobox) "presenting a better image of Iran and Tehran" in service of "Iranian government propaganda"? Is there an angle of the skyline you think better represents it? Because this one seems extremely good. If anything, shunning a much more representative skyline over a single White Revolution-era monument feels a lot more like propagandizing (even though I want to emphasize that I don't think this is actually a serious concern) than what LivinAWestLife did.

Honestly, I find this objection completely nonsensical and so vague as to be essentially unfalsifiable. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 11:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for summarizing my points with such clarity. I've had back-and-forth replies with Edward on my talk page and he hasn't been able to articulate why he would prefer the Azadi Tower over a picture of the skyline. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

@TheTechnician27 Thank you for your comment. I can see things more clearly... I think the overall positivity of the article made me sensitive to the images. The problem with the article is not the images. Overall, it's the article itself that is overly positive. In this case.. I think the issue is resolved! Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

As I am again stating, I am not a propagandist, which for some weird reason you seem to mistakenly think I am. I heavily dislike the Islamic regime and its influence on the Middle East. I also dislike North Korea, but the lead image on Pyongyang is a picture of the city's skyline, instead of a single image of Ryugyong Hotel or some statue. Wouldn't keeping Azadi Tower also be considered propaganda? Why do you think the skyline image would have any bearing on how people would view the Iranian government (or that the Azadi Tower wouldn't serve as opposition propaganda for the resistance against the government)? It is simply a wider view of the city. If you can find a more appropriate image on Misplaced Pages Commons I would not mind considering that for the lead image. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

@LivinAWestLife The suggested image is actually good. In fact, the article itself should be edited later, and images are not a problem. Thank you for working on this article. I hope my behavior did not discourage you from continuing the good edits. Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for replying and for having considered my points. I apologize if I was more aggressive at times in previous interactions. If you dislike the content of the article's text, you are welcome to change it provided it adheres to Misplaced Pages's standards. Thanks. LivinAWestLife (talk) 00:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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