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== Non-free images ==


My understanding is that if any free images are available we aren't to use non-free images just for the purposes of embellishment (especially infobox), but I seem to be reverted all too often on that, can you check ] and ]? We have quite a few free images at Commons and more at the source from where these were taken. cheers. &mdash;]''']''' 07:28, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:Hello! I added Kapoor's image back because his major career has been in his young age; atleast the one that he is recognized for. The infobox image should be thus suitable. Shouldn't it? I haven't done that yet on Khanna as his appearance isn't that drastically different. Was in fact waiting for SpacemanSpiff's comment on my talk page. §§] (]) 11:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, I didn't see that before (your tp seems to be high traffic today), I normally stay away from NFCC unless it's obvious cases (like it appeared to me in these two), but as in both articles, at least two of the people who reverted are long-standing editors, I'd brought it to FPaS' attention. Eitherways, I don't know what's going on with DASHbot, it keeps reverting the unused DI tag for Shammi Kapoor even when at that point in time the image wasn't in use. cheers &mdash;]''']''' 13:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:::No problem! But then what is your opinion on this? This case would happen with almost all actors of 60s-70s who have drastically changed. Article on ] uses a non-free image ] although she is alive and hence free image of her can be found. Unavailability on Wiki is not a reason for using non-free image. The reason is that she has changed. Similar is the case with ]. The current ] used will be deleted soon. Its probably a copyvio. Sreejithk2000 to look into this. After it's deletion we are left with his which are very different. What should be done then? §§] (]) 13:52, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
::::Now should we have Shashi Kapoor's young age non-free image or not? §§] (]) 06:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
::::Doesn't host also have any opinion on this? §§] (]) 17:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


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i am trying to stay away from shrike... but see how is after me like a hound, . he should also try to de-escalate rather than follow me around. i am pretty sure he will begin an edit war pretty soon (that is his modus operandi). the last time he edited there was like weeks ago... suddenly he began editing again..today... on my post. that's not a coincidence. anyway, i'm not going to be part of that discussion anymore. could you please ask him to stop stalking me?--<small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;background:blue;">]</span></small> 18:07, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
: Careful: you have no immunity from him, or others, on public noticeboards. If he uses your contribution list the same way I use those of many others, it's only natural he might see your posting there, and if it's related to a topic of interest to him, he has every right to comment. In this case, he made a matter-of-fact comment, and it was you who personalized the thing with accusations against him.
: Incidentally, my personal opinion happens to be that you are probably also wrong about the question you raised. For a source to be reliable is not the same as for it to have no editorial bias. The ''Middle East Quarterly'' can be a serious academic, peer-reviewed publication, and as such meet our reliability criteria with flying colours, while still having a pronounced political bias. That's no contradiction, because academics out there have no ethical obligation to be "neutral" as we do here on WP. In fact, there is no such thing as a "neutral" source at all. Especially when it comes to topics like history and political science, we should always assume, about any source at all, that it may have some authorial slant, no matter how serious and academic it is. ] ] 18:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


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<blockquote>In a speech delivered the following night, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, speaking about Iran's conflicts with foreign "enemies", mentioned "heavier blows" that would be dealt by Iran against its oppressors.<ref name="PressTVAhmadinejad">{{cite web | url=http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/19/251698/enemy-suffering-heavy-blow-from-iran/ | title=Enemy suffering heavy blow from Iranian nation: Ahmadinejad | publisher=PressTV | date=19 July 2012 | accessdate=19 July 2012}}</ref> These words were interpreted by some Israeli media as a veiled reference to the Burgas attack and a "gloating" hint at Iranian involvement in it.</blockquote>


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*"heavier blows that would be dealt by Iran" - please identify where he said this. If we look at the sources, for example this state owned one, he said "“The enemy deals a blow to the Iranian nations step by step; but, in return, it <i>receives</i> a stronger, heavier blow,” President Ahmadinejad said." Please don't try to distort sources or quotes.
*"oppressors" - violates ] by assuming it's oppressed. The proper thing would be to write "enemies" in quotes, since that's what he said.
*"veiled reference" - please identify where you got the word "veiled" from.
*"speaking about Iran's conflicts with foreign enemies" - please identify where you got this from, or remove it.
*Removes valuable and important quotes to conform to a POV.


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: I believe my wording is within the bounds of responsible paraphrasing and, as such, true to the source, albeit less literally than the direct quotations. If you have quibbles with details of wording, feel free to tweak. However, what is non-negotiable is that we must not present his statements as if they were undoubtedly related to the Burgas attacks, as the previous version did. The previous version claimed that he "described the attacks" as an Iranian act. This is quite patently false, as he didn't in fact mention the attacks at all. Do not reinsert any wording of that kind.
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::I will change the wording. I wanted to make sure it was fine with you so I am not sued for WP:1RR. The wording has been reinserted and reverted at different times by various editors. I simply noticed that it was your revert and edit so I brought it up with you. On the side, can you please identify with a diff where the previous edit said that it was an Iranian act? --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 21:56, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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::: Obviously, the version immediately before my edit was saying that he ''described the attack as a "response" to Israeli "blows against Iran"''. Nothing unclear about that being a claim of "we did it" (if he had said it this way, which he didn't). By the way, I suggest you propose further rewordings on talk first, to take the heat out of the reverting. ] ] 22:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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::::Thanks. It's clear though why that statement was made, as that was how an RS outlet reported it. The conflict some people are having is they are looking at the Iranian outlet as the true one, and ignoring anything an Israeli outlet said. What the Iranian outlet said is definitely true, but what the Israeli outlet quotes are further statements he made that were televised. At either rate, I don't want to get into this whole silly argument and edit warring over this now, maybe we can come back to it in a month or so... It's distracting from main point of article. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 22:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hey Future. It was a good idea to remove it for the time being and wait and see what happens. I read a report (same outlet that reported on what he said) that claimed that Ahmadinejad was referring to sanctions, and was talking about the future tense, not Burgas and past tense. Thanks for being so keen and diligent on this, it really goes a long way. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 04:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Nasrallah ==
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I appreciate your help with the Ahmadinejad quote.

I wanted to point out something else on the article, which seems like blatant vandalism, but to get your opinion on it.

Under Lebanon's reaction, it says "In a speech given to his supporters to mark the sixth anniversary of the Second Lebanon War, Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah did not mention the attack."

It seems like vandalism. Who cares if he didn't mention the attack? Perhaps the United States Minister of Agriculture didn't mention the attack either, does that belong under the U.S. reaction??

The original line was "In a speech given to his supporters to mark the sixth anniversary of the Second Lebanon War, Hezbollah Secretary General ] did not take responsibility for the attack, but said that Hezbollah is "chasing Israelis day and night" and promised a "big surprise" for Israel."

Thus, to me it appeared to be vandalism, by removing one part of the sentence to create an unnecessary sentence, or maybe take a jab at an editor. I feel that the original sentence is perfectly fine and maintains NPOV.

What are your thoughts on this? --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 22:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

: Looks like a similar problem. Both Ahmadinejad and Nasrallah are presumably people who use this kind of rhetoric about "enemies" and how much trouble they cause them more or less every day. So if they are now saying today pretty much the same thing they would have said a week ago or a year ago or next month, why are we bringing it up here in the context of this article at all? I guess the edit you are referring to is a rather clumsy attempt at fixing this, but the problem the 109.* IP saw seems pretty much the same issue I saw with the Ahmadinejad passage. ] ] 22:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
::It's true they do say it often. The reason I believe it was brought up here is because it was said in a speech right after the attack, so it did have relevance, since it was a reaction. "Oh we didn't do it, but how do we react to this attack? Well..." However, unlike the Ahmadinejad one, it specifically mentioned that Nasrallah and Hezbollah did not take responsibility, both during the speech and before the speech. Otherwise, the sentence should be completely removed, but I sincerely feel the previous edit was fine. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 22:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
::Please note - I've been working on this article shortly after it's inception, and have been very dedicated to it. You can tell that just by going to the page's history or my user contributions. I've constantly updated it with more info, added more countrie's reactions, etc. Thus, when I see possible vandalism or distortion like the above, in which part of a setnence is removed to just create an unnecessary sentence, I do everything I can to clear and fix it up and make the page better, which I believe is done best with working with cooperative editors. Thanks.--<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 23:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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There is now more disruption occuring there. Please take a look. ~ ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 23:55, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

== Midan photo ==

I have replied as you instructed. And I'm telling you the same thing I said on the image's page. With the exception of the government news videos that were broadcast for propaganda purposes there were no other video footage or photos that clearly depicted the Midan street fighting in Damascus of the last few days which was highly notable and constant in the international media. ] (]) 19:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

== Kallmann syndrome ==

Hello, I was just wondering why my two diagrams were removed from the Kallmann syndrome page. The diagrams are a representation of text above and below the diagrams. The diagrams were created for me by a medical illustrator over 15 years ago for a booklet I helped to write and I own the copyright to them. Did I label them incorrectly ? It was the first time I have tried to upload that sort of image but I thought I did it correctly as they are my own images. Please could you advise me on what I should have done. Thank you.
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: Hello, thanks for asking. I didn't actually understand from the description that these were your own work. If you own the copyrights to these, and you wish to see them used here, what you could do is to release them under a free license, by placing a license tag such as {{tl|cc-by-sa-2.0}} on them. That contribution would indeed be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, as long as they were described as "non-free", we'd have no way of keeping them, no matter if they are yours or somebody else's, because they fall under our ] for non-free works. (Incidentally, they were indeed also labelled incorrectly, because the graphics as such are not really the "topic of the article" – they are not the object of discussion, but merely an illustration to support the discussion of the article topic).
: Please let me know if you would like to release the images under a free license; I'll then restore them so you can add the necessary tag to them. ] ] 07:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

== Personal attacks at an article talk page ==

There are numerous personal attacks against me at the . Other editors have tried to "hat" them but one or two users keep restoring them. It is my understanding that personal attacks can and should be removed from the talk page. Can you offer any advice in this regard, Thanks. ~ ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 00:45, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

== ankhmorpork again ==

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== ] ==

I myself is a freedom fighter and have books for references.The Operation Jackpot and Bangladesh Airforce activties are not written by me rather these are facts and truth written authors and writter with booh which have ISBN number.If some one changes my version must show valid reasons.
Small grammer mistakes can not lead to change the trur version.It is obivious that readers should read the fact.It might go against a person or against a nation but the facts are to narrated as it happened.Any further change must be done with book or very acceptable references.
I am sure one who reads this pages knows very well how and why it could be changed.Thats why I have reverted the Bangladesh Liberation war with the
leagl changes I made.Before reverting just think it over the rules.
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: Sorry to be blunt, but you evidently have no understanding of just how poor your English writing is. These are not "small grammar mistakes"; it is just extremely poor quality material. It is also full of factually irrelevant detail, poorly structured and poorly focussed. If you continue pushing this sort of material into articles, it may become necessary to block you from editing. ] ] 21:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Try to block me show you can block me.If you can not than I know you write more than what you are.
Block me.Show me once that you can block me.
Its not your job neither you are master of Misplaced Pages.OK By Now
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== AN/I ==

Hi

No one seems to have noticed . Could you ask someone to give it some attention, or address it yourself?

Best regards, ] ]/] 14:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

== Open Government License files ==

Can you please undelete these probable Open Government License files you deleted?
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Most of these did not have specific statements that they were under the Open Government License at their source (some may now), but are under the license nonetheless: Their copyright is owned by the crown, so unless they are by agencies with exemptions (delegations of authority) from the U.K. government's main licensing scheme, .

(These are all the images you deleted which were listed at PUF except some by the Ministry of Defense, which has a delegation of authority—I might ask you about these if matters become clearer, or about images not listed at PUF.)


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I'm asking you since it looks like I'm supposed to first to get these undeleted per ]. A few of these may be on Commons (some are not), and faintly possible some are not under the OGL, but I can't tell without administrative privileges. &mdash;] 22:04, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
: I deleted these not so much for copyright reasons but because they were uploaded by an annoying serial sockpuppeter. If you want to take responsibility for them, copyright-wise, I have no problem undeleting them. Please give me a bit of time to go through them, I'll probably get round to doing them bit by bit. ] ] 16:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
::I'll take responsibility for them—assuming this doesn't mean much, even if I am mistaken. However, I expect all of these are fine from what I know (though some similarly clear images have been incorrectly deleted on Commons), those that aren't I'll ask you to delete. Thanks, &mdash;] 17:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


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Please have a look on the article's latest actions, Slovakian users (and some puppets) keeps reverting the edits.


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If I come across one of their additions to RSN would it be helpful if I pinged you? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:50, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but I guess it's enough to get them reverted promptly – if they then start revert-warring it back in, there should be enough admin eyeballs on that page to push the block button eventually, right? It doesn't have to be always me. That person is a pest (I suppose you're familiar with their LTA entry?), thanks for helping deal with them. Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:00, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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