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==Frohe Weihnachten==
== Edits to ] ==
Before threatening to accuse something in POVism, I suggest to look into person's history of edits. In this particular case, I am one of the few who systematically adds '''factual''' articles about political repressions in the USSR and maintains the consistency of the ] (I added its reference to ]; did you happen to look into it?). As for the deletions, I deleted all what was erroneous in this chaotic babble about how bad NKVD was. In particular, deportations of tatars etc. were put into section that speak about "liberated territories", which is nonsense. Deportations deserve a special section. In fact, this is the whole article ], which shows that there was a whole politics of the Stalinist state, rather than deeds of these NKVD villains. As for explanations, I am not going to explain every nonsense an anonymous contributor adds to wikipedia. But I am pretty tolerant to other editors' point of views in cases of disputes. Like I said, I prefer to work with '''factual''' material, which, unlike various political rant, is usually impossible to contest. I believe this is the true goal of an encyclopedia. ] 17:35, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Die herzlichesten Weihnachtsgrüße verbunden mit einem Weihnachtsbapperl<!--, den du am 27. Dez. wieder entfernen darfst-->. Dir wünsche ich ruhige und angenehme Weihnachtstage im Kreise lieber Menschen und Freunde. Gruß --] ] 10:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)<div style="position: fixed; right:0; bottom:0; display:block; height:130px; width:130px;"></div> <br style="clear:both" />
==Good work on the ] article!==
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="inuse" style="background: #cfc; border: 1px solid #aaa; margin: 0 2.5%; padding: 0 10px">
<center>'''] has been updated'''</center> and a fact from the article ''']''', which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the ]. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at ].
</div>
Good job. ] 12:25, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)


:I hope this was an Xmas greeting, but not sure :). Just in case, thank you Sven.] 16:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
==And also on the ] article!==
<br ><div class="boilerplate metadata" id="inuse" style="background: #cfc; border: 1px solid #aaa; margin: 0 2.5%; padding: 0 10px">
<center >'''] has been updated'''</center > and a fact from the article '''UBK''' you recently created is now featured in that section on the ]. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at ], or ] and update the DYK template yourself after reading the rules there.
</div >


==No personal attacks==
==police==
i dont know if your are aware, but you deleted the police page. be carefull with your edits. ] 13:18, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)


With regards to your on ] Please see Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to ] for disruption. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --] 00:22, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::Surely I din't mean to. And I've no idea how did it happen. Anybody has? Web experts? Cause this is not the first time when I'm accused in misterious deleting. ]


:Hah-hah-hah!!! Sashok, I can't believe that '''''YOU''''' wrote it! You probably copypasted this paragraph from your own talkpage, or from Ghirla's :) Нападение - лучшая защита? Shame on you, my little Russian-British editor... ] 10:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
== Ukrainians in space ==
::Смех без причины, признак дурачины...I'll just repeat myself that one has to assume that AlexPU is a big boy and needs no babysitting on your behalf. As for the rest, I do not feed trollish entries...--] 18:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


:::Sashok, I'm afraid that после обнародования твоей легенды о казачьем поселке со спутниковым Интернетом и безупречным английским ты утратил моральное право писать эту русскую пословицу :). This is my personal opinion of course... ] 21:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alex. On a whim, I created and populated ] while avoiding work. The articles are all little stubs. Would you have a look and see if I haven't left out anything obvious? I wanted to start an article about the ] and ] satellites, but I've run out of time. ]
:Will do my best, Michael.
Pryvit, ]


==Annoying picture/window==
::Take a look at NKAU and its talk. ]


Hi AlexPU. Are you aware that some picture or window with it is annoyingly floating over your talkpage? I was unable to click on it and find out something. May be you should try to? ] 21:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
== Category problems ==
But you're a lucky guy - I've tried to create already two new categories and no freaking effect so far. Would you take a look when not so busy?
::*]
::*]


P.S. It's not there when I'm ''editing'' the page.
:: You don't really have to ''create'' category pages, as such. Just put a new category link at the bottom of an article. Then go to that category, which now has your article in it, and put one or more category links to parent categories in there. The new category is now part of the hierarchy. ''&mdash;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-01-22&nbsp;16:54&nbsp;Z</small>''


:I tried, Bohdane. No result. Have no idea where it linked ''from'' this page. Some глюк...]
:: One more thing: when the category is still an orphan, the links above generate a URL that goes to the page for editing. But you can still manually type or paste the URL into your browser, and see the page (e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Non-combat_accidents_involving_military).


The code is hidden in the Frohe Weihnachten section of this talk page. Pull that out and the graphic should disappear. ] ] 19:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
==] uprising (1919)==


:Hey, it worked! Thanks.] 12:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I think you should be interested to take a look at the ] article, which is repeatedly flooded by ]n nationalism. If you have any facts on the Khotyn uprising, please help to make the article better. ] 06:55, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)


== Fantastic idea! == ==A job for you==


Hi again. Take a look at . ] 22:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi,


And we have the worst problem of this kind on ]. The intro there is larger than any section:))). I think we should discuss this with normal editors (I mean not with the Russian Group which dominates working on that page). ] 22:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Good job man! That was a great idea to create ]. Good luck! --] 19:33, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)


:OK, I'll take a look. When finished with usual reverting of our muscovian "friends". BTW I'm afraid they would spoil our reconstruction attempts on Kiev just to make a point. But let's try anyway.]
== ] ==


I've replied on ]; it's prolly easiest to keep the discussion in one place. &mdash; ] 20:34, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC) :Bohdane, I'm already there at ]. Join in! Coming now to Yulka The MILF :).] 20:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


==Blocked==
I've blocked you for 1 week per which is a clear personal attack. You've been blocked for this sort of thing before and at this point, you really should know better.--] 21:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


:So, they "did" you again, холоднокровний ти наш... You're disappointing me Alex. Well, probably there's a good side in this problem: I hope WP helps you to drain your real-life emotions so that you manage your anger while at work. OK, I'll take care of the articles you warned me about. But you should've been thinking about them, and about 3RR, when you were talking (?!) to Irpen... Wishes, ] 10:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
== Tobias COnradi's unacceptable actions on oblasti pages ==
I cannot revert. Oblast' is not english. Please look on other countries (not Russia) where else do we use non-english terms? Privet ] 07:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


:AlexPU, I joined your attempts as you asked . Next time please concentrate on clicking the "Undo" link instead of unleashing your emotions. ] 11:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


== Unblock demanded ==
If someone has another opinion than you, you call him asshole? ] 07:39, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


{{unblock reviewed|1=1. No Wikirules broken by me. In the diff provided I participated in discussion of a user's national identity and political opinions. The discussion wasn't started by me (I've been provoked). 2. My block would let other users to restore non-consensus POV-versions of several articles.AlexPU 06:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)|decline=Calling someone an active cunning traitor, as you do , is a clear personal attack prohibited by ]. — ] 15:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)}}
Where do you think is the best place to discuss the naming of province/oblast? ] 07:42, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


== Asking for help ==
::If someone is defiantly ignoring the Wiki ethics and objections from other Wikipedians, and refusing to discuss his edits, I call him an asshole. And today's asshole ''seems to be'' To-o-o-bias Conradi! ]


Hi tezka. Came here to ask your Wikidesign help with this . Especially regarding the fact that you've been changing that very Politics template recently. Thanks in advance. Oh, and great job with all those airports! Now everyone can see we ARE a great aviation country. Cheers,] 11:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
::At this stage, you got no moral right to discuss anything. You had your chance after my first polite reprimand. Now you're discredited - at least for some time. If you're concerned with the naming of province/oblast, please ask some tolerant and co-operative Wikipedian to back your opinion and fulfill all necessary discussion procedures. And please, don't rename anything more. ]


: Hey, what specifically do you need help with? I think {{tl|Ukraine topics}} would be more appropriate since that article is about local, not central, government. Oh and I beg you, PLEASE don't get yourself into more trouble with personal attacks, trust me, it's not worth it. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 06:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
:::WikiEthics are '''Be bold'''. I stopped renaming, but had to rename until K starting from Z. Because I was allready in some K. So now we know oblasts pages from K-Z all have been moved. You call ''Would you stop renaming oblast' until you freaking hear the objections of other Wikipedians'' polite? And than after 7 minutes giving me an 24h-ultimatum? Maybe I have seen your first message only short moments before?
: <s>Or whatever that template was called anyway. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 06:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)</s>


: There, I got the name right now. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 06:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I stop renaming for now and would really like to talk about it. Tell me where Privjet from Berlin. :-) ] 08:37, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


::OK, Alex forget about that "Politics of Ukraine". Since you mentioned {{tl|Ukraine topics}}, I have at least one correction for it. Are you willing to discuss and work there to improve?] 16:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
: An appropriate place to discuss this would be ], which you may have noticed was linked from the top of each oblast's talk page. Please calm down, people. I've only noticed this debate now. Would someone summarize on that talk page?


::: Well, I haven't been too active on Misplaced Pages because of personal problems, but I can help out as much as possible. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 03:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
: ''Oblast'' is indeed an English word, at least . ''&mdash;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-03-4&nbsp;16:09&nbsp;Z</small>''


Alex, if you look at that navigation table ({{tl|Ukraine topics}}), you can find some disappointing misplacements. Row 5, Col. 1 reads "Police forces" but links to ] :))). Col. 2 of the same row includes links to:
::I have never been on any oblast talk page. Thanks telling that oblast might be english, but what about oblast' as it was written? ] 07:57, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
*"Chief directorate of intelligence of the Ministry of Defence"
*"Foreign Intelligence Service"
*"Ukrainian Army"
*"Ukrainian Air Force"
*"Ukrainian Navy"
*"Sea Guard",


none of which are "police forces" :) So '''keeping this table, visible for hundreds of users, is shameful''' don't you think so?
In the german WP we also use the word ''Oblast''. Tobias should not try to move the oblast-articles in de:WP. --] 07:46, 2005 Mar 5 (UTC)
:You are talking nonsense - I never tried anything with de:WP ] 07:57, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
::Wenn du dir die Mühe machen würdest zu verstehen: ''Tobias should not try'' ist Future. --] 13:16, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC)


Any chance you or anyone else have it fixed? I know that DDima created the table, but he's unlikely to read my talk. And he also seems to be a "friend of Irpen".] 10:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My fight against Tobias was purely the matter of ethics (and '''not''' the question of content) - as well as my other Wikiconflict with Russian propagandists. If a guy is renaming 25 ''typical'' and large-subject articles without any discussion, "fighting" the wide-spread Misplaced Pages term, he '''deserves a massive censure'''. And I'm eager to repeat such actions against every other defiant vandal (no matter how much time would I spend for it). If Tobias voluntarily reverted his own (those still unreverted) changes, it would be the best demonstration of his tolerance, co-operativeness and contributing objectivity.


== What's your take on this? ==
:::As for the essence of the oblast' question, I'm always ready to discuss the possible changes to oblast' pages. I'm going to do that ]. And even if the consensus of Wikipedians recognizes the idea of Tobias, I would still demand his edits to be reverted before the end of discussion. While we discuss the edits, other people might just look for the info on oblast's :( ]


Hey, since you're a Ukrainian, I'd be interested to know your opinion about this: . I think they overreacted a bit. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 00:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


:Hey. I took a look there, but didn't get much cause all of you failed to provide diffs or links :). My two cents anyway:
==Ukrain city maps==
:*Serial changing of typical articles ''may'' pose a serious problem. Here in English Misplaced Pages we're systematically getting into this. Ironically, such problems are usually non-political. But they are problems anyway. See my quarrels with Tobias Conradi and Tufkaa - foreign guys with their own original understanding of Ukrainian subdivisions :). Unfortunately, Irpen bad-mouthed me when I reprimanded Tufkaa for his hundreds of erroneus edits.
Hi Alex, I invite you to find out the best basic ukrain map to show the position of cities. We discuss ] --] ] 06:58, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)
:*Involving Irpen in relations inside Ukrainian Misplaced Pages is a serious, near-fatal mistake. Alex, NEVER ask Irpen for help or mediation unless you're looking for intrigues and trolling.] 15:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry, I try to explain: We try to find a construct to represent Ukrainian cities. The first point is to find a map to point the position of a city (independently if it's actually on it's correct place). We thought about oblasts with named cities first. That has the disadvantage that you only can use it in the deWP. And the oblasts are not useful to orientate. So we discuss now, if we shouldn't use simple maps of Ukraine only with dots on them. That would have the advantage, that we could store the images at commons and all WPs can use them in their language. And they would have a similar look (like the ], which are used in all german articles of cities and towns). Because of this idea, I asked you to take a look and take part at the discussion if you think this idea could be success- and useful also for you. --] ] 23:22, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)


:: He did help me out on there, though... — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 11:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
== Navy Expert ==


:::On helpful Irpen: who do you think monitors each my edit and reports me (through E-mail) every time I get blocked :)?] 10:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to work with you on articles about ], ], and so on. I am currently working on articles (very slowly) about Soviet and Russian submarine accidents. I spent many years in the ]'s Submarine Service, and now I work for the Navy as a civilian contractor, so in English I am something of an expert. ] 15:30, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)


:P.S. Akhristov, forgot to make myself clear: I'm not really willing to edit Ukrainian-language Misplaced Pages. Sorry if I disappointed you in your need of direct help. Anyway, contact feely here.] 16:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd also be pleased to help, with English/American terminology and usage etc. ] 19:46, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)


:: No problem, I'll get it settled there later. Hey, could you do me a favor though, and research the new ? I'm not able to find much on it. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 03:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you guys. I'm fastening my preparations for the joint attack. For the start, I suggest both of you (especially the professional Epopt) to consider where could you harvest the info on particular ships of the Soviet/Ukrainian (and also, if you want, Russian) navies. I mean there must be some English -language military guides (Jane's or what is it called?) where you can find the:
:*old Soviet names and codes as well as the new codes (or what the digit labels on the boards are called?)
:*the types of particular ships and their NATO classification
:*any other relevant info (where and when she was built, history, pictures etc.)


==Oligarch Tymoshenko and other politics-related articles==
:To refine your search, I'm preparing the list of the actual ships with their Ukrainian names (judging by mostly media sources). Also, I'm going to clarify the history, personalia&ranks and bases (however, bases and ports may be also best accesible to you through international navy guides). Best wishes, ]


Alex, welcome back. I hope you won't get yourself blocked again.
* The military guide you're thinking of is ] and its hundreds of spin-offs. Jane's Web site is http://www.janes.com/ .
* I'm not sure what you mean by "the digit labels on the boards" -- is that "K-141" for the submarine ''Kursk''?
* Some information on Soviet and Russian submarines (Stupid question: does Ukraine operate submarines?) can be found at http://submarine.id.ru/ . I haven't looked for surface-fleet info recently.
* ] are reasonably easy to look up on various .mil Web sites.
] 15:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Back to our business, have you seen that "Oligarchs..." tag at the bottom of ]? What's your opinion as a politics scholar? I mean she IS influencing society and politics like oligarchs do. But I can't say she is a businesswoman ''now'' (at least publicly). Can we categorize former tycoon as an actual "oligarch"? By the way, many other UA-politics articles need your expert corrections and updates. For instance, Tomenko is Vice Speaker now. Cheers, ] 20:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Hi Epopt. I've tried to look into Jane's. there's a lot of info there, and it seems to be largely pay-only. So I need some time (and hepl may be) to harvest something here.


:I agree. She is a pure politician now. "Oligarchs" usually act in other ways in politics. Their media talk and fight on their behalf while they are very calm and polite themselves in public, which is not Yulka's case. I think we can delete her and ] from there. As far as I know, ] is the oligarch for Medvedchuk :) And I'm not sure if ] is formally an oligarch.] 10:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:By "labes" I meant the digit-letter combinations painted on the boards of the surface ships. Not sure for subs. I guess that combination is unique and important. Isn't it?


:It's too late: the template is already deleted after a short and lazy discussion which I nevertherless agree with.] 15:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, Ukraine possess a small old diesel sub named "]" (Cyrillic &#1047;&#1072;&#1087;&#1086;&#1088;&#1110;&#1078;&#1078;&#1103;). Don't know the class/project - can you harvest it knowing the name?. And no :(( we don't operate it - the sub is in permanent repair since it was commisioned form Russian guys - that's why she is a constant hero of journalist stories. But the ] comand demonstrates the willing to operate it someday.


OK. And you're quite right: Medvedchuk is simply a lobbist and intrigant with relatively minor business interests. With "ex-" suffix I hope :). Cheers. ] 12:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for the first help. ]


== Blocked ==
I have added a tiny amount to your stub about Ukraine's submarine, and I'll add more as I research it. ] 23:16, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


I've blocked you for and . You have resumed making personal attacks almost immediately after coming off of your one-week block, and given your of making personal attacks, the length of this one is two weeks. I think it's time that you seriously reconsider your methods of how you go about discussions. Commenting on other users in this manner seems to only bring you trouble, and I would like to remind you that you should only be discussing article content, nothing more. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">]]</span> 01:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
== DYK ==


: I don't know about how fair the block was, but... You realize AlexPU can edit his talk page even though he's blocked, so this block is fairly pointless, right? Just thought I should point it out. — ] <sup>(]|]|])</sup> 11:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Just so you know. Since we're on the English wikipedia here, ] is how most English people refer to the city. I therefore changed the link in your suggested item. (I do believe the Ukrainian name is mentioned in the lead, though. ]|] 13:23, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)


AlexPU, that very admin (a friend of Irpen of course) has blocked me as well. Fortunately, I was off-line that day :). Now, you should be even more cautious than you've been last months. If you intend to call Irpen a troll, do it via E-mail. And we all must do our best to block Mr.Khoikhoi from his adminship (detailed plan will be presented via E-mail). Pryvit, ] 13:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
== Arsenal ==
Hi Alex, please look at the note I left at the Arsenal Mutiny article talk page. Also, may I suggest you to avoid using Kyiv in Misplaced Pages as the primary name of the city. I understand that you may want to promote the usage of Kyiv by using it yourself. But at Misplaced Pages, I think, the choice of the term should reflect the current usage rather than promote some terms over the others. Regards, ] 07:12, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)


:Well, if they blocked even you Bohdan, than I'm not even angry :)
Alex, I am responding to the note you left at my talk page. I don't have a big problem with FC Arsenal called either way. Save few exceptional cases, I usually don't go to the page just in order to change a single term when it is as contentious as Kiev/Kyiv. Mostly, I only do this change in the course of some other page edits. Unlike when used for the name of the city itself in English WP, the argument you made for the FC name has merit and I am happy to have it the way you changed it back.
:BTW, '''the second diff supplied by that Khoi shows nothing'''. May be we could hook him using this detail? I'll try to investigate that diff now.
:Alex, a brilliant idea of yours! I'm going to reorganize my pages so that important messages are visible at best.] 08:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


::BTW, those "good people" also blocked me from archiving my talk, which is I guess against the rules. I was hoping to do at least some maintenance of my userspace while blocked :( Another reason for punishing that Khoi ... Bohdan, is there a way to let me do something with my PRIVATE USERSPACE???? ] 10:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't feel good, though, about the tone of the note you left at my talk page and about your calling my edits outrageous. Please don't become short-tempered when you disagree with others. I work on all articles in good faith and I don't think I deserved to be addressed in such a tone. Now, lets put this matter behind and go back to business of improving the WP. Please don't take this personally, but I think your should reconsider your usage of ''Kyiv'' for the name of the city in your edits. I left a note on the talk page of one of the articles and there is enough said on this heated discussion elsewhere. Please note, that I agreed with your moving the Irpen river article into Irpin, which I think made perfect sense for today's day. You may notice, that I created the article a while ago, and now I would have created it as Irpin as well. I hope, our discussions will remain civil, and I really appreciate your contributions to WP, including those I disagree. ] 22:34, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)


No, Alex, you wasn't blocked from your space "also", it's simply a technicality of your block, we can do nothing about this. Don't worry about it, especially regarding your soon release. Well, maintaining talk is a good idea, I guess I'll do the same. As for Mr.Khoikhoi, I've already started my DR procedure against him. Details by mail. By the way, I'm going to change my address to get more possibilities (unavailable at scrudge "Bigmir" service). So, if you write me - use WP interface. Cheers, ] 10:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:Apologies presented for the tone - it really was an emotional pre-emptive attack. I'm glad you recognize the essence of my objection regarding the football club. Best wishes, ] 20:45, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


==Could you give me a piece of advice?==
==Chersones==
AlexPU, ] follows all my edits on Russian political topics (during last several months!) and reverts well-sourced texts. He made my life in Misplaced Pages miserable. ] filed an RFC about his behavior. That did not help. Please see: ] and ]. You can simply trace my edits and Vlad's edits to see.
Hi Alex, I'm looking for a picture or scan of an 1 Griwna banknote to use in the article about Chersones (Sewastopol). Do you have an idea? --] ] 19:47, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)
:Elya left this on my talk-page: ''Alex, where are you living and what driver do you need ? I'll be in Ushhorod in May and could bring you something on CD ;-) - if this is not too late. --] 18:29, 19. Mär 2005 (CET)'' --] ] 19:56, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)


My last negotiation attempts can be found here: ] (see (Nature(journal)), ], ]. I believe that Vlad's actions ''after'' these explanations and attempted negotiations constitute clear vandalism. What do you think? ] 15:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot, Elya&Steschke. I'm a ]ite, and, unfortunately, not going to visit Uzhhorod in foreseeable future. Actually, I'm looking for a CD ( with an HP Scanjet 6200 driver. If I don't get that from my friends or acquaintances - hope to buy it at the "something CD:)" (I got your humor) market. But anyway, thanks for readiness to help.


::BTW, Elya, I see you've done a great Ukraine-related job there at De:Misplaced Pages (judging from the titles I can somehow understand from German). Best wishes, ] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC). :I'll try, although I may be a poor advisor. I'll do my best just let me collect my thoughts in a kind of text. Держись] 15:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


::BTW Ukrained, this guy is being kicked by our riverside friend after your mail to some guy there at AfD. And now we got the whole freaking war there at ] :((((((] 15:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


== Прапор військово-морських сил України ==
::''Unfortunately, I'm leaving for an approximately month-long ]. (Don't know how will I stand it :( ). But, feel free to post your possible messages and help requests here - I promise to answer them ASA return. Pryvit, ] 21:05, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)''


I share your view about what SHOULD be the usual, daily ] Flag, at least to my mind… But, actually, as I've been told by ВМСУ officers in Sevastopol' and onboard the ''Херсонес'', and as it have been confirmed to me last night, the one wearing the National Flag is only for Holidays and some special occasions. The USUAL FLAG is the outlined Sea Blue Cross. That is also what says ]. Tell me if you're OK for the changes. Бувай! ] 14:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Best wishes to you during your leave, Alex. Thanks for all your hard work and knowledgeable contributions around here. Cheers, ]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-03-20&nbsp;21:48&nbsp;Z</small>


:Hi. You convinced me pretty well. Thanks! I'll respond on Navy talk with more details in an hour. BTW, please check your E-mail. Pryvit, ] 06:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
== Dropped in for a minute ==


== Personal attacks (again) ==
Hi everybody. I dropped in for a minute - just to see what's happening in this great project. Unfortunately, I'm still on Wikibreak and have no time/energy for contribiting. Sorry if I didn't answer someone's message.


Regarding this , if I see any more divisive comments (especially directed towards other users' ethnicities) from you, you will be blocked for a much longer period. You've been warned before about this many times. Please stop. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">]]</span> 06:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
However:


:Oh, come on... I surely disagree. "Russian trolls" in your diff are not trolls because they're Russians, but simply because they push Russian nationalistic POV. No "division" attempts, no "ethnicity", only fact related to the particular page. In other words, you're exaggerating my meaning. You can find hundreds of similar comments only this day. Go and block all those people :)
*I can now scan and send some not very large Ukraine-related images (since I have a scanner). E.g., Sven Teschke requested a bank note scan.


:As for blocking me - I don't care. If you want to - what can I do about? I keep my usual fighting for neutrality and I'm aware it takes some price. If your admin decisions are above review and rules here, what can I do?] 06:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
*I've got a large multimedia collection depicting our ] (TV newscasts&footages, animated clips, photos, photodesign, scanned ]s, music etc.) Some of this stuff is copyrights-free or anonimous. If someone would like to post it at the respective Wiki pages - I can also send it.


::Alex, it doens't matter ''why'' they're "Russian trolls", what's important is that it's considered a personal attack to call any legitimate user a troll. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">]]</span> 07:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
So, people, if you need my help with some particular non-lasting tasks - please E-mail me.


:::Oh, and who defines which user is ''legitimate''? You do, Mr.Khoilhoi? Unilaterally? Please don't touch him as long as you don't touch his opponents. ] 19:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Best wishes, ] 12:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


==Wikiproject Ukraine==
P.S. If someone is interested in my experience, I do miss Misplaced Pages, but without any addiction suffering. My work pressure keeps me far from even thinking about writing something more :(( But I miss English very much. WP was the only place where I could use it. Hope I will return to editing someday.


Alex, for your information, you're ] as "inactive" editor of Ukraine-related articles. What are you going to do about it? ] 19:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
== Welcome back ==
: This was because WikiProject Ukrainian subdivisions was acquired by WikiProject Ukraine, and Alex was a member of the former, so he became a default member of WP Ukraine. However, he was marked as inactive on WP Ukrainian subdivisions, so therefore he's still marked inactive until he decides to rejoin. — ]<sup>(]|]|])</sup> 00:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
:: So... Did you make up your mind about participating yet? — ]<sup>(]|]|])</sup> 09:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


==Russomania==
Hi Alex! Just slumming a bit at Misplaced Pages? Thanks for filling in some info at ]. Hope to see you around here a bit. ''—]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-11-10&nbsp;19:38&nbsp;Z</small>''
Hi. Take a look at ]. ] 14:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


:Impressive piece of Muscovian propaganda... The whole world is guilty! I'm going right there right now.] 13:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Michael! Thanks for your welcoming. Glad to see you active as usual. Couldn't stand my desire to edit something, and to use English again. So many things changed since I left... I'm a little afraid of returning to our mainstream Ukraine articles. Need to read and think more. ]


== Black Sea Fleet ==
And I freaking forgot how to sign myself...
Привіт! I noticed you message on the Georgia Portal talk page and attempted to expand the ]. Hope this helps. Cheers, --]<sup>]</sup> 06:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


:Hey, that's great! And very informative because I had no idea that Ukraine played that much role for Georgian Navy. Thanks!] 13:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Done ]


==Dnieper reservoirs==
: Sign with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Yup, some things change, some don't. Add ] and some of its sub-pages to your watchlist. Cheers. ''—]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-11-10&nbsp;21:35&nbsp;Z</small>''
Alex, I think I've got something for that your article. See your E-mail. Cheers, ] 11:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


== Sorry Michael == == Russian language in Ukraine ==


Hi, instead of revert warring on ], why don't you join the discussion at the ] ? Cheers, --]<sup>]</sup> 21:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry Michael, I've incidentally blanked your talk page. Tried to fix it for a 5 times - with no freaking success. Would you do it yourself and accept my apologies& ] 21:12, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


:Generally, your input is needed not only there, but also at ] (I think we missed something there) and ]. All three are POV-pushing pages (as for now) created and maintained by our little "friend". In particular, you should say your politologist word about some UA "institutes" referenced in ]. Wishes, ] 13:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
: No problem; already fixed. I think the page is too long; I'll archive most of it shortly. Have a look at ]. ''—]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-11-11&nbsp;21:14&nbsp;Z</small>''


== Будьмо знайомі! == == Account request ==


Not much people now use doppelganger accounts anymore as the MediaWiki software has been changed to not accept 'like accounts'. For example, if user X tried to create ], it will state to the user that the username is too similar to a current account. <small>Extranet is now </small> ] <sup>]</sup> 09:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alex, nice to meet you here. There is so little Ukrainian editors at WP. Let's keap contact.--] 19:04, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


==Suspicious edit==
:Hi. I've already noticed you're an active editor of Ukraine pages. (I've been on a long Wikibreak.) And you seem to be fighting Russian gingoists - as I sometimes do. Tak trymaty! ] 19:10, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Alex, please check which looks like POV-pushing to me. Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with the Zakarpattia history, and both flags seem equally unfamiliar to me :(. Are you an expert? Or some friends of you? Cheers, ] 19:39, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


==]==
Alex, yet again, I urge you to avoid name calling. In no time after your return to Misplaced Pages you resumed using this practice all too much. Maybe you forgot, but your first ever message to me (shortly after I've just started here) was a rude one. At that time, I was almost a newbie and you were an aged Wikipedian so welcoming me. Now, that I am also an aged Wikipedian, the first message from you after your wikibreak is even more rude.
Alex, one of your top-important writings . Please return from your Wikibreak and pay attention. Especially regarding the fact that you joined a police Wikiproject. ] 19:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


:Thanks man, I'll talk to them but counting on your support as well.] 15:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I understand that, as you put it, you are now ''"too busy now to study Wikiethics pages thoroughly"'', but even if you apply any common sense ethics and civility rules you would have not done that and you don't need to read ] to be aware of that.


==]==
I hope you said "tak trymaty" above without really studying the contributions of the above user which by now have included disruptive behaviour, lack of civility, extreme POV pushing, multiple 3RR violations, effective vote falsification by using forums to recruit socks/absentee votes see (]), personal attacks on and off Misplaced Pages, multiple copyright vilations and moving articles by cut and paste when he could not get his way by an accepted procedure. If you are interested, you can read his talk, especially starting from ], my talk, particularly starting from ]. In no time AndriyK managed to get himself blocked thrice, see (), and aggravate everyone around him. is a rather typical representation of his contributions.
Alex, I finished this article (with common knowledge and Google study) after you left it barely referenced. Now I suggested it to ]. But there is still enough space for improvement. E.g., apply your politologist expertise to the issues of his Rada career, 1991 ''holoduvannya'' and ] - the two latter are subjects much more known than Chemerys himself. Holoduvannya may be a link to develop Kyrylenko (I heard he's going to be Number 1 in a list of Lubi Druzi?) Pryvit, ] 16:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


== Militsiya tortures ==
I remember many good contributions you made before your wikibreak and we do need contributors around here. I hope you will help to make several more Ukrainian articles ]. So far we have only one, the ] article, mostly written by an American, BTW. Shame on us! The featureable articles, IMO (those sufficiently detailed to be within reach) are ], ], ], ] (particularly its history). My pet project ] is largely abandoned, but could be revived if there is an interest. I am looking forward to your help. --] 21:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


See ]. `'] 20:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
== Na/v Ukrayini—eliminating vague language ==


== Transliteration policy ==
Hi Alex. My question at ] could probably use your perspective. Thanks. ''—]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2005-11-15&nbsp;17:37&nbsp;Z</small>''


As an inactive member of WikiProject Ukraine and a contributor to articles relating to Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located ]. Thank you. — ]<sup>(]|]|])</sup> 18:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:Hi. I'll see what can I add to discussion. ] 18:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


== Navbox == == Request to move Kyiv ==


Hello,
The navbox is done. By the way, I'm Ukrainian too. --] 00:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)


I have set up a request to move the page Kiev to Kyiv.
== Propagandistic vandalism in progress ==


I have outlined four key reasons for doing so in the discussion section of the page.
People, I can't stand the '''behaviour''' of some of Russian (and Russia-biased) Wikifellows. The "behaviour" is the key, cause I don't deny they right to have their highly-erroneus views an present them '''correctly''' on WP. But I will renew my fight against the propaganda-driven vandal-like actions like undiscussed deletions and unforgiveable denials of common sense.


Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to this page earlier. I would like to hear what you have to say on this topic.
I'm going to list such uncooperative Wikipedians here. Feel free to edit and discuss the list.


Thank you
And let's see are they brave enough to not delete themselves or each other from here.


*] (hopefully, expelled as far as I found out today) ] 03:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Horlo
*] (self-acclaimed, may be not)
*] (embattled by objective users over ])
*] --added myself just to spare the effort for the host of the disgusting attack page. --] 23:25, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


===Discussion=== == RfC Kyiv ==
:See ] --] 23:13, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


Hello AlexPU. I'm a new Wikipedean from Toronto that was drawn in by the Kyiv/Kiev naming "discussion" of the last two months. I see that you have written reasonable contributions and see that you, as they say "are not indifferent" to this issue. Do you have a thought on this latest RFC http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Kiev/naming#Request_for_Comment.?Regards ] 02:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::A comment on your list above. Polish editors being offended by many anti-Polish remarks on articles’ talk pages, decided once to create a page where they would be able to deal with the offending users. You may see it here ]. Unfortunately, despite their best intentions, few people on Wiki approved the idea, and the page went through two VfDs ] ]. The final result was certainly not the assumed one. Not only it didn’t solve anything, but also it backfires from time to time, like on this RfA ].


== З новим старим роком ==
::During the many discussions we had held due to explain our view, many people suggested that problems with such problematic users should be solved with the use of the existing Misplaced Pages policy tools like ] or ]. And although that is exactly what Polish editors wanted to avoid, today, when I look back at the discussions, how much of our energy they took, and how little we achieved, I really think that the official tools would be the best idea. Some of the comments you oppose were posted on our board, and I can understand your frustration, however, the list is unlikely to resolve anything. Regards --] 00:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)


Сію, вію, посіваю, з Новим роком поздоровляю!
:Hi. I think I know a ]. Why don't you engage there? In fact, there's a balance of views there (created by his proponents ignoring this list). Wishes, ] 10:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)


На щастя, на здоров'я та на Новий рік,
Thank you everybody for commenting an important and complicated issue. Please proceed! Ukrained, I already did. And thank you for alerting me of the freaking ''East Ukraine''. Thank you Poles (and dziewczyny polskie:) for info on "black lists". BTW, I hardly could be elected admin because of my short-temperedness and poor English. And I'm happy about it. If being elected means compromise with the disgraced editors - I don't need it. I suggest this approach for ] particularly. Best wishes, ] 23:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


Щоб уродило краще, ніж торік, -
::Ok, Ezhik and Irpen, I'll watch your asses most thoroughly if you wish - to evaluate your vandalousness. As far as I remember, Irpen qualifies enough :(. ] 17:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


Жито, пшениця і всяка пашниця,
== Cool it ==
Please take a look at ]. Characterizing others' edits as vandalism in a POV dispute is a serious breach of civility. Just because someone disagrees with you, even if they ''are'' wrong, none of these are justifications for calling edit vandalism. You also need to seriously consider toning down your language. Calling others "Propagandistic" and maintaining some kind of hitlist is not conducive to building an encyclopedia. Try to be cooperactive and civil, and if that doesn't resolve a dispute, use our processes at ], don't just resort to personal attacks and revert warring. ]·] 22:55, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:Alex, leave another comment like and you'll find yourself blocked for a while to cool off. I know you feel strongly, but that does not justify abusive language. It does nothing to build an encyclopedia, and does much to harm it. Stop. ]·] 23:08, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::To answer your questions:
::*It is not directly prohibited per se in any policy, but there is a precedent and strong consensus for forcing users to delete them. More importantly though, it is just wrong, and unproductive for Misplaced Pages.
::*All of your edits to Misplaced Pages are released under the GFDL. That's what you agreed when you clicked the save button. You cannot take them back, unless there is a standar deletion criterion they fall under. But I especially don't see why you'd ''want'' to, if they were useful encyclopedia articles. If you're pondering leaving over this conflict, that may be to our loss, but I would hope you wouldn't want to reduce our store of knowledge here (for anyone in the world to access) because you can't get along with an editor. ]·] 00:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


Коноплі під стелю на велику куделю.
== Mediation concerning St Volodymyr Cathedral ==
Hi Alex, if you interested in the St Volodymyr Cathedral article, why not to join the mediation procedure? Please check your mailbox.--] 09:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


Будьте здорові з Новим роком та з Василем!
:Sorry, I couldn't find enough time. ] 23:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


Дай, Боже!
==]==
Vote to keep, show these hypocrites what's what, tolerance? ha, only when it's good for them--] 23:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


:Hi. First you read what you wrote :) Wishes, ] 23:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC) If you send me a postal address, I'll send you some music. ] (]) 00:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


==]/]== ==] real:(==
AlexPU, I’m not sure whether you’re going to come back or if you would even read this, but anyway.
Hi, I am struggling to preserve the integrity of the ] from disuruption caused by ], who repeatedly and arbitrarily deletes a number of people from the list. I would appreciate if could join me in editing the list and on the talk page.


I came across the new info on one of your worthy articles. The nuclear ] is actually the ''Придніпровський хімічний завод in the neighboring ]''. A mission by ] is evaluating it right these days, in order to solicit international aid. That’s all for now, but you can develop this tip into a reference for your section. Good luck (this means come back), ] (]) 23:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
] is involved in a number of edit wars and has caused disurption to various East European, Catholic, and Jewish lists and is probably involved in multiple voting. See ]. I would appreciate if you could endorse the request for comment at ] or post an outside view.--] 19:54, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


:What a ... there ... But a really complicated issue depending on general approach. ] 23:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC) Hey, thanks man! I’m back to use that. Counting on your help as well.] (]) 20:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


:It's done, take a look. BTW Bohdan, refresh my memory: do you draw Wikistuff? Any stuff? Cause now we need a map there. Thanks again, you once helped to save the article and now you've researched a major tip.] (]) 21:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
==My Wikistatement==
Ladies and gentlemen!


== Happy First Day of Spring! ==
I'm concerned with the '''terrible pro-Russian propaganda on
Misplaced Pages,
and community's failure to stop it'''.
The supposedly-neutral Wikifellows
permanently can't see (or pretending they can't)
the evident POV-contributions, and most important,
both the '''vandalistic''' and the '''insidious''' methods
used to preserve those contributions.
''This disappoints me very mother-fucking much!!!''


{{Template:First Day Of Spring}}
So I find Wikiediting a rather nervous (although a high-minded) activity. I passionately hope to see positive changes on ]!!!


Hey thanks! Same to you. BTW today we've had snowfall, rain and now a frost here in Kiev:)))) Some spring but thanks.] (]) 22:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I will kindly ask all of you for following:


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*Don't purge the list of propagovandalists above, even if you dislike the idea. Instead, developing that list would be a sign of a '''true political correctness - towards Ukraine, Ukrainians, and, not to forget, Misplaced Pages principles'''.
*Do discuss the issues raised on my talkpage and elsewhere.


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Hi AlexPU. In case if you come here during your break, check your E-mail. Best wishes, ] 07:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:Hi. I didn't. And I wasn't checkin my mail all that time. Sorry. Hope to cooperate in future since I'm back. Pryvit, ] 16:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::Deal. Check my new mail to you. ] 19:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


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== Мілена Марківна Куніс ==

I recently added a Ukrainian version of ] name in the article. I did find it using my poor Russian skills and a great deal of dead reckoning and guesswork. It would be nice if you, being a native Ukrainian speaker, could verify it and give me some peace of mind. Thank you. --] 11:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

:(Reply to your message in ] --] 09:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Civility ==

{{Civil1-n|User talk:Irpen}} ] 07:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
==born in kyiv==
hi alex, my name is ] 12:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
--] 09:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
and i would like to know whether you have a template "born in kiev"
thanks
long live UKRAINE

:Hi there! No I don't have it, and neither do you judging by your userpage :)) But I'd like to have such template, and support the idea. Where do I sign, vote or whatever (except of draw and design :)?.] 09:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Calmness ==

So you made vicious personal attack and were warned for incivility just above this comment. I'll reiterate: Civility is 1) not hard at all and not much to ask for, 2) non-negotiable, 3) common sense. I reiterate because
has been uncivil. In combination, you've been engaging in a serious edit war. Edit wars are never okay. Now, considering the previous warning about incivility, I'm going to make this clearer for you. If I see any more incivility or edit waring in the near future, I will give you a short time off to cool down and think about your behavior and desired maturity level here, editing for an encyclopedia. Thanks. ]·] 19:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:31, 7 January 2022

My archived talk1 My archived talk2 (2005) My archived talk3 (2006)

Frohe Weihnachten

Die herzlichesten Weihnachtsgrüße verbunden mit einem Weihnachtsbapperl. Dir wünsche ich ruhige und angenehme Weihnachtstage im Kreise lieber Menschen und Freunde. Gruß --ST ○ 10:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


I hope this was an Xmas greeting, but not sure :). Just in case, thank you Sven.AlexPU 16:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

No personal attacks

With regards to your edit summary on Luhansk Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Kuban Cossack 00:22, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Hah-hah-hah!!! Sashok, I can't believe that YOU wrote it! You probably copypasted this paragraph from your own talkpage, or from Ghirla's :) Нападение - лучшая защита? Shame on you, my little Russian-British editor... Ukrained 10:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Смех без причины, признак дурачины...I'll just repeat myself that one has to assume that AlexPU is a big boy and needs no babysitting on your behalf. As for the rest, I do not feed trollish entries...--Kuban Cossack 18:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Sashok, I'm afraid that после обнародования твоей легенды о казачьем поселке со спутниковым Интернетом и безупречным английским ты утратил моральное право писать эту русскую пословицу :). This is my personal opinion of course... Ukrained 21:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Annoying picture/window

Hi AlexPU. Are you aware that some picture or window with it is annoyingly floating over your talkpage? I was unable to click on it and find out something. May be you should try to? Ukrained 21:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. It's not there when I'm editing the page.

I tried, Bohdane. No result. Have no idea where it linked from this page. Some глюк...AlexPU

The code is hidden in the Frohe Weihnachten section of this talk page. Pull that out and the graphic should disappear. IrishGuy 19:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, it worked! Thanks.AlexPU 12:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

A job for you

Hi again. Take a look at this. Ukrained 22:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

And we have the worst problem of this kind on Kiev. The intro there is larger than any section:))). I think we should discuss this with normal editors (I mean not with the Russian Group which dominates working on that page). Ukrained 22:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll take a look. When finished with usual reverting of our muscovian "friends". BTW I'm afraid they would spoil our reconstruction attempts on Kiev just to make a point. But let's try anyway.AlexPU
Bohdane, I'm already there at Kiev. Join in! Coming now to Yulka The MILF :).AlexPU 20:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for 1 week per this edit which is a clear personal attack. You've been blocked for this sort of thing before and at this point, you really should know better.--Isotope23 21:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

So, they "did" you again, холоднокровний ти наш... You're disappointing me Alex. Well, probably there's a good side in this problem: I hope WP helps you to drain your real-life emotions so that you manage your anger while at work. OK, I'll take care of the articles you warned me about. But you should've been thinking about them, and about 3RR, when you were talking (?!) to Irpen... Wishes, Ukrained 10:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
AlexPU, I joined your attempts as you asked . Next time please concentrate on clicking the "Undo" link instead of unleashing your emotions. Ukrained 11:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Unblock demanded

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

AlexPU (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

1. No Wikirules broken by me. In the diff provided I participated in discussion of a user's national identity and political opinions. The discussion wasn't started by me (I've been provoked). 2. My block would let other users to restore non-consensus POV-versions of several articles.AlexPU 06:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Calling someone an active cunning traitor, as you do here, is a clear personal attack prohibited by WP:NPA. — Yamla 15:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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Asking for help

Hi tezka. Came here to ask your Wikidesign help with this . Especially regarding the fact that you've been changing that very Politics template recently. Thanks in advance. Oh, and great job with all those airports! Now everyone can see we ARE a great aviation country. Cheers,AlexPU 11:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, what specifically do you need help with? I think {{Ukraine topics}} would be more appropriate since that article is about local, not central, government. Oh and I beg you, PLEASE don't get yourself into more trouble with personal attacks, trust me, it's not worth it. — Alex 06:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Or whatever that template was called anyway. — Alex 06:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
There, I got the name right now. — Alex 06:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, Alex forget about that "Politics of Ukraine". Since you mentioned {{Ukraine topics}}, I have at least one correction for it. Are you willing to discuss and work there to improve?AlexPU 16:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I haven't been too active on Misplaced Pages because of personal problems, but I can help out as much as possible. — Alex 03:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Alex, if you look at that navigation table ({{Ukraine topics}}), you can find some disappointing misplacements. Row 5, Col. 1 reads "Police forces" but links to Military of Ukraine :))). Col. 2 of the same row includes links to:

  • "Chief directorate of intelligence of the Ministry of Defence"
  • "Foreign Intelligence Service"
  • "Ukrainian Army"
  • "Ukrainian Air Force"
  • "Ukrainian Navy"
  • "Sea Guard",

none of which are "police forces" :) So keeping this table, visible for hundreds of users, is shameful don't you think so?

Any chance you or anyone else have it fixed? I know that DDima created the table, but he's unlikely to read my talk. And he also seems to be a "friend of Irpen".AlexPU 10:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

What's your take on this?

Hey, since you're a Ukrainian, I'd be interested to know your opinion about this: . I think they overreacted a bit. — Alex 00:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey. I took a look there, but didn't get much cause all of you failed to provide diffs or links :). My two cents anyway:
  • Serial changing of typical articles may pose a serious problem. Here in English Misplaced Pages we're systematically getting into this. Ironically, such problems are usually non-political. But they are problems anyway. See my quarrels with Tobias Conradi and Tufkaa - foreign guys with their own original understanding of Ukrainian subdivisions :). Unfortunately, Irpen bad-mouthed me when I reprimanded Tufkaa for his hundreds of erroneus edits.
  • Involving Irpen in relations inside Ukrainian Misplaced Pages is a serious, near-fatal mistake. Alex, NEVER ask Irpen for help or mediation unless you're looking for intrigues and trolling.AlexPU 15:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
He did help me out on there, though... — Alex 11:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
On helpful Irpen: who do you think monitors each my edit and reports me (through E-mail) every time I get blocked :)?AlexPU 10:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Akhristov, forgot to make myself clear: I'm not really willing to edit Ukrainian-language Misplaced Pages. Sorry if I disappointed you in your need of direct help. Anyway, contact feely here.AlexPU 16:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem, I'll get it settled there later. Hey, could you do me a favor though, and research the new Ukrainian passport? I'm not able to find much on it. — Alex 03:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Oligarch Tymoshenko and other politics-related articles

Alex, welcome back. I hope you won't get yourself blocked again.

Back to our business, have you seen that "Oligarchs..." tag at the bottom of Yuliya Tymoshenko? What's your opinion as a politics scholar? I mean she IS influencing society and politics like oligarchs do. But I can't say she is a businesswoman now (at least publicly). Can we categorize former tycoon as an actual "oligarch"? By the way, many other UA-politics articles need your expert corrections and updates. For instance, Tomenko is Vice Speaker now. Cheers, Ukrained 20:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. She is a pure politician now. "Oligarchs" usually act in other ways in politics. Their media talk and fight on their behalf while they are very calm and polite themselves in public, which is not Yulka's case. I think we can delete her and Viktor Medvedchuk from there. As far as I know, Hryhoriy Surkis is the oligarch for Medvedchuk :) And I'm not sure if Anatoly Chubais is formally an oligarch.AlexPU 10:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
It's too late: the template is already deleted after a short and lazy discussion which I nevertherless agree with.AlexPU 15:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. And you're quite right: Medvedchuk is simply a lobbist and intrigant with relatively minor business interests. With "ex-" suffix I hope :). Cheers. Ukrained 12:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for this and this. You have resumed making personal attacks almost immediately after coming off of your one-week block, and given your long history of making personal attacks, the length of this one is two weeks. I think it's time that you seriously reconsider your methods of how you go about discussions. Commenting on other users in this manner seems to only bring you trouble, and I would like to remind you that you should only be discussing article content, nothing more. Khoikhoi 01:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about how fair the block was, but... You realize AlexPU can edit his talk page even though he's blocked, so this block is fairly pointless, right? Just thought I should point it out. — Alex 11:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

AlexPU, that very admin (a friend of Irpen of course) has blocked me as well. Fortunately, I was off-line that day :). Now, you should be even more cautious than you've been last months. If you intend to call Irpen a troll, do it via E-mail. And we all must do our best to block Mr.Khoikhoi from his adminship (detailed plan will be presented via E-mail). Pryvit, Ukrained 13:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, if they blocked even you Bohdan, than I'm not even angry :)
BTW, the second diff supplied by that Khoi shows nothing. May be we could hook him using this detail? I'll try to investigate that diff now.
Alex, a brilliant idea of yours! I'm going to reorganize my pages so that important messages are visible at best.AlexPU 08:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW, those "good people" also blocked me from archiving my talk, which is I guess against the rules. I was hoping to do at least some maintenance of my userspace while blocked :( Another reason for punishing that Khoi ... Bohdan, is there a way to let me do something with my PRIVATE USERSPACE???? AlexPU 10:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

No, Alex, you wasn't blocked from your space "also", it's simply a technicality of your block, we can do nothing about this. Don't worry about it, especially regarding your soon release. Well, maintaining talk is a good idea, I guess I'll do the same. As for Mr.Khoikhoi, I've already started my DR procedure against him. Details by mail. By the way, I'm going to change my address to get more possibilities (unavailable at scrudge "Bigmir" service). So, if you write me - use WP interface. Cheers, Ukrained 10:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you give me a piece of advice?

AlexPU, User:Vlad_fedorov follows all my edits on Russian political topics (during last several months!) and reverts well-sourced texts. He made my life in Misplaced Pages miserable. User:Colchicum filed an RFC about his behavior. That did not help. Please see: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov and Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov#New_episodes_of_wikistalking_by_Vlad. You can simply trace my edits and Vlad's edits to see.

My last negotiation attempts can be found here: Talk:Nikolai_Koltsov (see (Nature(journal)), Talk:Persecution_of_political_bloggers#Vlad.27s_claims, Talk:Active_measures#We_must_find_a_compromise. I believe that Vlad's actions after these explanations and attempted negotiations constitute clear vandalism. What do you think? Biophys 15:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll try, although I may be a poor advisor. I'll do my best just let me collect my thoughts in a kind of text. ДержисьAlexPU 15:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW Ukrained, this guy is being kicked by our riverside friend after your mail to some guy there at AfD. And now we got the whole freaking war there at WP:DRV :((((((AlexPU 15:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Прапор військово-морських сил України

I share your view about what SHOULD be the usual, daily Ukrainian Navy Flag, at least to my mind… But, actually, as I've been told by ВМСУ officers in Sevastopol' and onboard the Херсонес, and as it have been confirmed to me last night, the one wearing the National Flag is only for Holidays and some special occasions. The USUAL FLAG is the outlined Sea Blue Cross. That is also what says Військово - морська атрибутика України]. Tell me if you're OK for the changes. Бувай! Korenyuk 14:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. You convinced me pretty well. Thanks! I'll respond on Navy talk with more details in an hour. BTW, please check your E-mail. Pryvit, AlexPU 06:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks (again)

Regarding this , if I see any more divisive comments (especially directed towards other users' ethnicities) from you, you will be blocked for a much longer period. You've been warned before about this many times. Please stop. Khoikhoi 06:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, come on... I surely disagree. "Russian trolls" in your diff are not trolls because they're Russians, but simply because they push Russian nationalistic POV. No "division" attempts, no "ethnicity", only fact related to the particular page. In other words, you're exaggerating my meaning. You can find hundreds of similar comments only this day. Go and block all those people :)
As for blocking me - I don't care. If you want to - what can I do about? I keep my usual fighting for neutrality and I'm aware it takes some price. If your admin decisions are above review and rules here, what can I do?AlexPU 06:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Alex, it doens't matter why they're "Russian trolls", what's important is that it's considered a personal attack to call any legitimate user a troll. Khoikhoi 07:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and who defines which user is legitimate? You do, Mr.Khoilhoi? Unilaterally? Please don't touch him as long as you don't touch his opponents. Ukrained 19:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Ukraine

Alex, for your information, you're marked as "inactive" editor of Ukraine-related articles. What are you going to do about it? Ukrained 19:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This was because WikiProject Ukrainian subdivisions was acquired by WikiProject Ukraine, and Alex was a member of the former, so he became a default member of WP Ukraine. However, he was marked as inactive on WP Ukrainian subdivisions, so therefore he's still marked inactive until he decides to rejoin. — Alex 00:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
So... Did you make up your mind about participating yet? — Alex 09:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Russomania

Hi. Take a look at this. Ukrained 14:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Impressive piece of Muscovian propaganda... The whole world is guilty! I'm going right there right now.AlexPU 13:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Black Sea Fleet

Привіт! I noticed you message on the Georgia Portal talk page and attempted to expand the Georgia section. Hope this helps. Cheers, --Kober 06:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, that's great! And very informative because I had no idea that Ukraine played that much role for Georgian Navy. Thanks!AlexPU 13:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Dnieper reservoirs

Alex, I think I've got something for that your article. See your E-mail. Cheers, Ukrained 11:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Russian language in Ukraine

Hi, instead of revert warring on Russian language in Ukraine, why don't you join the discussion at the article's talk page ? Cheers, --Lysy 21:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Generally, your input is needed not only there, but also at Anti-Russian sentiment (I think we missed something there) and Russians in Ukraine. All three are POV-pushing pages (as for now) created and maintained by our little "friend". In particular, you should say your politologist word about some UA "institutes" referenced in Anti-Russian sentiment. Wishes, Ukrained 13:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Account request

Not much people now use doppelganger accounts anymore as the MediaWiki software has been changed to not accept 'like accounts'. For example, if user X tried to create User:AlexPU_2, it will state to the user that the username is too similar to a current account. Extranet is now E 09:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Suspicious edit

Alex, please check this edit which looks like POV-pushing to me. Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with the Zakarpattia history, and both flags seem equally unfamiliar to me :(. Are you an expert? Or some friends of you? Cheers, Ukrained 19:39, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Militsiya

Alex, one of your top-important writings was suggested to be split. Please return from your Wikibreak and pay attention. Especially regarding the fact that you joined a police Wikiproject. Ukrained 19:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks man, I'll talk to them but counting on your support as well.AlexPU 15:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Volodymyr Chemerys

Alex, I finished this article (with common knowledge and Google study) after you left it barely referenced. Now I suggested it to WP:DYK. But there is still enough space for improvement. E.g., apply your politologist expertise to the issues of his Rada career, 1991 holoduvannya and Ukrainian Helsinki Union - the two latter are subjects much more known than Chemerys himself. Holoduvannya may be a link to develop Kyrylenko (I heard he's going to be Number 1 in a list of Lubi Druzi?) Pryvit, Ukrained 16:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Militsiya tortures

See Talk:Militsiya. `'Miikka 20:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Transliteration policy

As an inactive member of WikiProject Ukraine and a contributor to articles relating to Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located here. Thank you. — Alex 18:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Request to move Kyiv

Hello,

I have set up a request to move the page Kiev to Kyiv.

I have outlined four key reasons for doing so in the discussion section of the page.

Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to this page earlier. I would like to hear what you have to say on this topic.

Thank you

Horlo 03:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Horlo

RfC Kyiv

Hello AlexPU. I'm a new Wikipedean from Toronto that was drawn in by the Kyiv/Kiev naming "discussion" of the last two months. I see that you have written reasonable contributions and see that you, as they say "are not indifferent" to this issue. Do you have a thought on this latest RFC http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Kiev/naming#Request_for_Comment.?Regards Eduvalko 02:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

З новим старим роком

Сію, вію, посіваю, з Новим роком поздоровляю!

На щастя, на здоров'я та на Новий рік,

Щоб уродило краще, ніж торік, -

Жито, пшениця і всяка пашниця,

Коноплі під стелю на велику куделю.

Будьте здорові з Новим роком та з Василем!

Дай, Боже!

If you send me a postal address, I'll send you some music. Bandurist (talk) 00:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Threat of the Dnieper reservoirs real:(

AlexPU, I’m not sure whether you’re going to come back or if you would even read this, but anyway.

I came across the new info on one of your worthy articles. The nuclear dump which you’ve been taking for Dnipropetrovsk is actually the Придніпровський хімічний завод in the neighboring Dniprodzerzhynsk. A mission by IAEA is evaluating it right these days, in order to solicit international aid. That’s all for now, but you can develop this tip into a reference for your section. Good luck (this means come back), Ukrained (talk) 23:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks man! I’m back to use that. Counting on your help as well.AlexPU (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It's done, take a look. BTW Bohdan, refresh my memory: do you draw Wikistuff? Any stuff? Cause now we need a map there. Thanks again, you once helped to save the article and now you've researched a major tip.AlexPU (talk) 21:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day of Spring!

Happy First Day of Spring!
A Beautiful Cherry Tree in Spring Bloom
Theres nothing like seeing a field full of spring flowers.

Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Spring {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! ~~~~







If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Autumn not Spring then I wish you a happy First Day of Autumn {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}!
To spread this message to others, add {{subst:First Day Of Spring}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hey thanks! Same to you. BTW today we've had snowfall, rain and now a frost here in Kiev:)))) Some spring but thanks.AlexPU (talk) 22:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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