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	:I tried to fix it, but it still needs some work. ] (]) 09:35, 10 September 2012 (UTC)		:I tried to fix it, but it still needs some work. ] (]) 09:35, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
			: Thanks ]. ] (]) 17:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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			I've added "In 1943 he became a member of Nazi Germany's Armenian led reconnaissance-sabotage group AG-114 in ], headed by ] and is one of the many Abwher groups of which ] was involved." Please consider very carefully before reverting as this addition is a neutral point of view and verifiable; it has 2 sources that include Russian, Armenian and Turkish academics. Thank you and respect (Medywatch) (] (]) 09:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC))

			:{{tq\|I've added "In 1943 he became a member of Nazi Germany's Armenian led reconnaissance-sabotage group AG-114 in WW2, headed by Drastamat Kanayan and is one of the many Abwher groups of which Garegin Nzhdeh was involved.}}
			:After your block, you're still on this article and adding the same ]. The source you keep adding is from a Turkish nationalist and criminals' personal website and no way near ], see ]. The second source you added is also a personal website, not an academic or scholarly work . '''Nationality doesn't mean automatic reliableness''' and '''Exceptional claims require exceptional sources'''. I suggest for you to not edit-war like previously and do not re-revert as you'll be breaching (again) ], ], and it may result in another block. I would also kindly ask for the previous blocking admin @] to take a note of this post-block behavior, as the first thing the user did after unblock was to revert again and they seem to be a ]. ] (]) 21:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

			Have you even looked at the sources to come to an opinion? This addition has two sources that include Russian, Armenian and Turkish academics. The claim & it's sources are not lies, yet you stubbornly persist on it being lies without providing any evidence to the contrary. Is your agenda here to censor knowledge? ] (]) 22:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

			:You're the one that needs to take a good look at the “sources” you've added, and read relevant guidelines like ]. Please read my explanation carefully and avoid ]. ] (]) 23:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

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Lede

This article needs a better lede. "One of the murderers in "Operation Nemesis" tells almost nothing to those unfamiliar with the specific event. Maybe someting like "an Ottoman Armenian who assassinated Behbud Khan Javanshir, Internal Affairs Minister of Azerbaijan in 1921" may be a better introduction. I'll call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

I tried to fix it, but it still needs some work. George Spurlin (talk) 09:35, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks George Spurlin. Konullu (talk) 17:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Recent edit

I've added "In 1943 he became a member of Nazi Germany's Armenian led reconnaissance-sabotage group AG-114 in WW2, headed by Drastamat Kanayan and is one of the many Abwher groups of which Garegin Nzhdeh was involved." Please consider very carefully before reverting as this addition is a neutral point of view and verifiable; it has 2 sources that include Russian, Armenian and Turkish academics. Thank you and respect (Medywatch) (Medyawatch (talk) 09:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC))

After your block, you're still on this article and adding the same unreliable source. The source you keep adding is from a Turkish nationalist and criminals' personal website and no way near WP:RS, see Mehmet Perinçek#Detention, arrest, and incarceration. The second source you added is also a personal website, not an academic or scholarly work . Nationality doesn't mean automatic reliableness and Exceptional claims require exceptional sources. I suggest for you to not edit-war like previously and do not re-revert as you'll be breaching (again) WP:BRD, WP:EW, and it may result in another block. I would also kindly ask for the previous blocking admin @Bbb23 to take a note of this post-block behavior, as the first thing the user did after unblock was to revert again and they seem to be a WP:SPA. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 21:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Have you even looked at the sources to come to an opinion? This addition has two sources that include Russian, Armenian and Turkish academics. The claim & it's sources are not lies, yet you stubbornly persist on it being lies without providing any evidence to the contrary. Is your agenda here to censor knowledge? Medyawatch (talk) 22:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

You're the one that needs to take a good look at the “sources” you've added, and read relevant guidelines like WP:RS. Please read my explanation carefully and avoid casting aspersions. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

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