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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Trisha Krishnan}}
== ] reported by ] (Result: Stale) ==


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|TheHappiestEditor}}
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|reconquista}} {{pagelinks|machismo}} {{pagelinks|turrón}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Reiniger321}}


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# {{diff2|1265432813|22:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) She works in Malayalam cinema.There are two upcoming Malayalam films of Trisha. The total number of Malayalam films is not two."
# {{diff2|1265165246|13:14, 25 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* top */She works in Malayalam films too. There are two upcoming Malayalam films of Trisha."


*Diffs from other articles (language POV and edit war)
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* 1st revert: ]. One can see at it continuous edit war behavior with the IP (used by me during late morning, afternoon and early night in a discloseted way) he reverts in the various problematic changes he does against consensus, it would be too long to list everything.
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He was already blocked for edit-warring early on and continues his problematic behaviour without seeing consensus, and continues to stalk my contributions looking for things he can change to his POV. ] (]) 02:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


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* If I'm reading this correctly, this is a content dispute over which particular varieties of Portuguese to use for the phonetic spelling at the top of this article, and also a whole host of other articles. I think the best place for this is the ], but if one of the two doesn't agree to go through dispute resolution, then we might need to think about blocks or topic bans. — ''''']''''' <sup>(])</sup> 09:23, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
*:After having a closer look at this, I think that Reinigers321's accusations of sockpuppetry are not without merit, and I've started an investigation at ]. — ''''']''''' <sup>(])</sup> 10:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
* The dispute resolution? Well, his reasons to revert my edits aren't covered by any kind of particular policy of the Linguistics project, as he claims, just like ] said in my talk page. I've been making it for months, and no one has ever reverted me over these silly disputes other than him, which is concerned only with reverting and accusing a fellow editor of vandalism and sockpuppetry. Sincerely, I think he has no merit to try to defend his point it if he demonstrates such enormous level of bad faith, is the only one at this dispute, has no good IPA skills as demonstrated by his frequent confusion of an alveolar tap as in Spanish pero with a trill as in Spanish perro (and the last one with the fricative as in French riviere, the 'rr' phoneme of Portuguese) and never, EVER tried to achieve consensus by discussion. ] (]) 19:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
::I am still waiting for a result. ] (]) 17:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:{{AN3|s}}. I'm not sure that your removing this from archives and putting it back at the top of the main page is permissible just because you didn't get a "result", but there have been no edits to the article since October 4, and there have been no edits of any kind by Reiniger since October 4.--] (]) 17:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::Well, if it is not said clearly somewhere in the archive or here that we aren't supposed to do this, I fail in the criteria of inappropriate behavior per ignorance. What kind of behavior is appropriate if he is back at reverting me again? Because it is a single-purpose account stalking me over, and I'm tired of him doing this. ] (]) 19:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I would say that unarchiving a discussion at an administrative noticeboard when you are not an admin is generally inadvisable, even without a rule. As for your question, if he edit-wars in the future, file a new report here (and link back to this one if you like).--] (]) 19:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::If it is not archived again, I suppose. ] (]) 20:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::No, you can link to the archive, assuming editors don't tinker with the archives (smile).--] (]) 21:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Just saying, a Brazilian IP (what coincidence!) undid two edits of mine on completely independent topics, and I answered it in a quite passionate way. ] (]) 08:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
PEOPLE OF WIKIPEDIA, IT'S WEDNESDAY DEEP INTO OCTOBER and he's doing it again. ¬___¬ ] (]) 12:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:{{AN3|n}}. Please don't use all caps. It appears that he's warring (although not breaching 3RR) over a number of articles about ] and diacritics, the policies or guidelines for which I know very little. I know there've been discussions, which I have not followed, about diacritics at administrative noticeboards, so I suggest you take this issue to ]. If another admin better versed in this than I can make some sort of determination here, fine.--] (]) 23:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


POV pushing/cherry-picking "Malayalam" and edit warring in a lot of articles. Apart from the above listed, the user has been pushing "Malayalam" as one of the languages in which "actor XYZ" has acted 'predominantly' in but in actuality the entries are only a few . The editor has received multiple warnings for being disruptiove and a recent one for from {{u|Krimuk2.0}}. - ] (]) 10:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
== ] reported by ] (Result: Final warning given) ==


:{{u|TheHappiestEditor}}, please respond to these allegations. ] (]) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Frank L. VanderSloot}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Rhode Island Red}}


{{u|TheHappiestEditor}} has engaged in further edit-warring, with the same "Malayalam" language POV pushing, with {{u|19Arham}} . ] (]) 06:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{ping|ToBeFree}} Apparently, they do not want to respond , but would very much continue with their POV . Also note removal of sources . - ] (]) 13:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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:@] and I spoke on my Talk page where they said the following: "The information regarding ] has been removed multiple times despite being supported by reliable sources, such as </nowiki>]. This violates ]'s verifiability policy. Could we discuss this further to reach a consensus?" ] (]) 14:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::The removal of content isn't a violation of the verifiability policy; restoring content against ] or ] is. Dealing with other editors' concerns about one's editing isn't optional if the editing continues, and {{u|TheHappiestEditor}} had the chance to respond here. ] (]) 16:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|b|indef}} for now. ] (]) 16:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Page protected) ==
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* 1st revert: 15:15 6 Oct
* 2nd revert: 17:00 6 Oct (in group of contiguous rvs not connected to others in this list)
* 3rd revert: 21:09 6 Oct
* 4th revert: 14:06 7 Oct
* 5th revert: 14:47 7 Oct


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Hariprasad Chaurasia}}
Making a clear 5RR situation.


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|103.84.130.238}}
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Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 21:31 6 Oct
4RR warning at 14:36 7 Oct
One revert made after the 4RR notification, resulting in this report - 5RR is way too many


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Notified of this report at 15:17 7 Oct.
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## {{diff2|1265541681|12:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])"
## {{diff2|1265542339|12:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)}} ""https://www.hariprasadchaurasia.com" check the site pandit is part of his name , the site is run by him, also there are other similar cases too on wikipedia "
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I think 5RR is ''past'' the bright line of 3RR. The material - which includes listing of victim's names, an OR inclusion of a perp's middle name, etc. is clearly violative of ] as well ] (]) 15:13, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


Keeps on adding (edit wars) honorifics despite explanation about ] and ] in edit summaries and warnings ] (]) 14:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Will someone tell him (summary: ''Harassment. Stop posting on my page now'') that required notifications are ''required''? Thanks. ] (]) 15:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
:The IP was initially reported to AIV, since disruptive edits continued after a warning, but was to report it here. - ] (]) 14:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{AN3|n}}. <s>I've notified him of this discussion. Collect, you could have done that despite RIR's telling you to stay off his talk page. As you say, it's a required notice, and if he wants to remove it, he can.</s> Up until today, I was not ], but now having commented at ] and edited content in the article, I cannot take action on this report.--] (]) 16:03, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
*{{AN3|p}} ] (]) 22:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Since I did, indeed, notify him at 15:17 I query the need for asserting that I did ''not'' notify him. Cheers. ] (]) 19:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
*:@] Sadly, the IP is now doing the exact same thing over at the article ] (]). —&nbsp;] ] 07:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Aha, I saw what you did but read only the content of the section, not the section header, which had a notice - a bit unorthodox, but still a notice. I've struck my comments above.--] (]) 20:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
*::Blocked, thanks. ] (]) 16:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::It is troubling to see this editor attempting to game the system by manufacturing charges of a 3RR violation. There is currently a minor dispute on the page and Collect is very much mired in it. The issues are currently being discussed on the BLPN (see below).


== ] reported by ] (Result: No violation) ==
::The first 3 edits Collect listed (all made yesterday) are all on unrelated areas and two of them (#37 and #38 ) were noncontentious. The first edit listed in Collect’s accusation (#36) concerned whether or not it was appropriate for Collect to have labeled Vandersloot (the subject of the BLP) as a major donor to Democratic candidates; in fact VanderSloot is clearly not, and even though this was explained to Collect, he continued to make this contentious change. I reverted it while explaining the clear rationale in my edit summary (#36 and on the Talk page. Collect was unable to justify the change, and clearly his position was indefensible (see ).
{{Atop|Enough.--] (]) 20:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)}}


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Justice}} <br />
::The last 2 edits listed by Collect in his accusation (#39 and #40) were made today and were not reverts at all but rather new edits. The first, #39, was the addition of the full name of one of the individuals mentioned in the BLP. It was added in response to concerns that were raised on BLPN here . Concerns were expressed that the individual in question, Brad Stowell, might be confused for other people named Brad Stowell (an odd argument to say the least) so I added the person’s full name (Bradley Grant Stowell) to eliminate the possibility of confusion. This was explained on the BLPN and in my edit summary. It was a straightforward logical edit that was intended to be constructive and to resolve a dispute in a simple manner -- and again, it must be stressed that this was not a revert.
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Remsense}}


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::What Collect listed as my 5th revert (edit #40) was simply a minor edit -- the removal of a duplicate citation – which was explained as such in the edit summary. It was in no way contentious nor was it a revert; and again, it was clearly constructive.
::It concerns me greatly to see an editor involved in disputes (and Collect has been very much involved in disputes with this article in the past, with his own issues of ] and ] -- see edit history of the article Talk page) manufacturing charges of 3RR violation in order to game the system. It is also indefensible to portray constructive new edits as reverts and edit warring and to use such trumped up "evidence" to harass other editors. Disputes should be resolved through discussion, not red herring requests for administrative intervention and ]. ] (]) 16:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


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:::Read ]. Your edits are separate reverts amounting to 5 reverts in under 24 hours, and 7 reverts in 48 hurs. As for your "warning" me for my 3 edits in 1 month - I think there is no comparison. And I would point out that several other editors also agree that you are seeking to put direct ] violations into an article. Cheers - and kindly do not misrepresent the number oof edits per month I made. BTW, reinserting BLP violations does ''not'' count as "constructive new edits" - never has, never will. Your laughable assertion that I have an "ownership" in the article is belied by the facts - RIR now has 233 edits on the article - I have 23. Ten to one ratio. And some of mine are vandal reversions to boot! ] (]) 19:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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:::Just came across this today, and iceberg-wise, it looks like the tip. Though apparently just revisited, this has been going on at least since September 13 . The concerns re: ] take precedence--I'm wondering why it's vital to continue to restore a non-notable's name to an article. Indeed, the name of this person is now so liberally splashed across multiple discussion pages that a good case can be made for an eventual deletion of discussions and edit summaries, per ]. ] (]) 18:41, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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::::That is a content issue that's already being discussed on BLPN. It has no bearing on the inappropriate 3RR violation accusation. ] (]) 19:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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:::::As a continuation of a long term pattern, rather than a new or isolated occurrence, context is relevant. The pattern of the last month is amazing, sort of 'revert, repeat, revert again' . One of the great long running edit wars I've ever seen. Has nobody contacted a noticeboard until now? ] (]) 19:53, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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*The nature of the "fifth revert" is worth noting closely. Removing a duplicate ref (an edit which is not in the least contentious in the current activity on this article) is not a revert. ] (]) 20:28, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
::''Any'' change affecting the work of another editor counts "even as little as one word." No exceptions for "the fifth revert does not really count if it fixes something" when the bright line was well and truly crossed at the fourth revert <g>. The edit war character of RIR is fully established - and hitting 7RR in 2 days shows it well enough, don;t you think? And I await your apology for the absure post made by you previously here. Cheers. ] (]) 20:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
:::It didn't change the work of another editor and I have not made 7 reverts; but nonetheless, you got to state your case and I got to state mine; so now you should let the process take its course rather than throwing more fuel on the fire here on the noticeboard. The point of your report should be resolution but instead it seems blatantly punitive/vindictive. The accusation of a 3RR violation was based on edits as trivial as removing a duplicated link. There is no edit warring taking place on the article, and the report was disingenuous and entirely unnecessary; bordering if not crossing the line of ]. ] (]) 21:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::You shout "HARASS" easily -- you even called my ''required'' posting on your user talk page "harassment" - which is a heck of a stretch! As for your assertion that you were not edit warring to add BLP violations - that is a laughable position to take. Anyone can see your number of edits on the article, and the absurd amount of detail which was added to it, contrary to what ''all'' the others agree was ''reasonable'' coverage. Cheers. ] (]) 01:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Might I suggest that you tone it down a notch. That sort of aggressive comment at this point really doesn't help neutralize the situation. It's in the hands of other editors to decide now, so just kick back and let the process take it's course.] (]) 01:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
*Of the five alleged reverts at the top of this report, the first three (#1, #2, #3) certainly appear to be reverts (i.e., the undoing of another editor's edits). Alleged revert #4, however, has me confused. Collect, is there a particular edit that Rhode Island Red was reverting by adding material to change the text from reading ''"Brad Stowell"'' to reading ''"Brad Stowell (Bradley Grant Stowell)"''? Regards, ] (]) 23:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
::I added that based on the discussion that was taking place on BLPN. Collect's initial objection to the inclusion of Stowell's name was that other people have the same name and might be confused for that individual. That seemed like a very odd premise to me, and one without basis in WP policy, but nonetheless, to address his concerns, I did some additional searches and found reliable sources indicating that his full name was Bradley Grant Stowell, so I pointed this out on the BLPN as a solution to the perceived problem, and added the full name parenthetically in the article. It seemed like a perfectly innocuous, constructive, and uncontentious edit to me, otherwise I wouldn't have made it. It certainly wasn't a revert of any kind. It seems odd that Collect would raise the initial concern (which seemed baseless, but nonetheless...) and then freak out about 3RR over an action taken to remedy his concern. That combined with his listing of the removal of a duplicate link as a revert makes it hard for me to see this as anything other than vindictive/punitive. It certainly doesn't help to resolve editorial differences, it just throws gas on the fire. ] (]) 01:47, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Um -- all I did was respond to your charge of harassment. Seems that you wish to have your cake and eat it too -- allowing you to make unsupported charges without anyone noticing them. Again - you asserted that I was "edit warring" with three edits in one month <g>. And I note that your edits do ''not'' have support on the article talk page. ] (]) 02:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
*I don't see five reverts here. I do see a chronic dispute with BLP overtones, that should be addressed, much more calmly, by everyone on the talkpage. There is a level of emotions involved on this page that is unhelpful and there have been some inappropriate comments that should not be repeated. ] (]) 01:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::That certainly sounds reasonable to me. We've got discussions going on the Talk page and BLPN and the page is stable for now, so I'm sure that whatever differences of opinion exist can be worked out through rational discourse. ] (]) 01:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
* There are three reverts, not five, but that is enough to enforce the 3RR rule. (1) Removing "Democratic" from the persuasion of the candidates that VanderSloot endorsed. (2) Reverting material about "journalists and gay-rights groups. (3) Restoring the name of the person convicted of a crime. As for the other accusations: (4) A different editor (not Red) did a revert to restore the suspect's name to the article; Red merely added a new fact — the person's middle name. (5) The correction of the repeated link was not necessarily a revert; for all we know, Red might have made the original error himself, and he could have been correcting it. Yours, ] (]) 02:45, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
*I have issued a final warning that any further edit-warring at the article will result in a block. I hope resolution can be reached at article talk and/or the BLP/N discussion. --] (]) 15:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


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* '''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Lugnuts}}


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Guilty as charged. None of my justifications matter, since 3RR doesn't care that IPs can just slip into the night instead of actually engaging in discussion on talk, leaving a highly visible article in a broken state for hours because my hands are tied to fix it. Can't ask anyone else to fix it because that's canvassing. I've been given a lot of wiggle room here over the past couple months, so if this earns me a week then so be it. It's extremely frustrating trying to protect the most important articles on the site, so maybe after this I should just give up. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 20:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


:{{reply to|Remsense}} Your accusation that I left {{tqi|a highly visible article in a broken state for hours}} is a completely baseless ] and should lengthen your block. Any administrator can read the article's diffs and confirm that at no point did I do such a thing. You're the one who deleted well-referenced material. ] (]) 20:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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:As a related side note, it does not seem that the IP editor really cares to follow ] in this instance. - ] (]) 00:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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Add to the above the following ] by Remsense on the article's talk page: . ] (]) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Additionally, when I Remsense with the appropriate user warning for this personal attack, they {{tqi|get the hell off my page}}. This is a clear violation of ]. Add it to the list. ] (]) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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::I would like to back up the complaint against Remsense here, as he also recently failed to assume good faith in edits I posted and attacked me personally as an editor. He then followed me and deleted another edit I had posted on an unrelated page afterward after I questioned his conduct on his talk page (which he then deleted.) I question whether his temperament is suitable to be a moderator on Misplaced Pages.
::] (]) 04:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::There is no such thing as a moderator on Misplaced Pages, Remsense is a Normal Editor like you and not an Admin Either. ] (]) 04:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you. I stand by my comments on his temperament and conduct regardless.
::::] (]) 04:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::It is not reasonable to take someone's actions in good faith when they lie, both straightforwardly and by omission, in their representation of said actions to others. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 04:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::No one lied, I made what I felt was a minor edit. You then jumped to incorrect conclusions, insulted me after I criticized your uncivil and unprofessional conduct and then stocked my editing history to an unrelated article. Your conduct in my view continues to be as I described, and I continue to hold your temperament to be ill-suited for editing here. I ask that you show humility and engage in much needed introspection and improve yourself if you intend to continue posting here. ] (]) 04:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::It was not a "minor clean up", and you know it. I don't have to pretend I don't also know it, so don't bother. FWIW I have ] on my watchlist, but you're not entitled to your contribution history being immune from scrutiny when one instance belies the clear possibility of more. That's why it's there. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 04:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::As I said, humility and introspection would serve you well, but I see no benefit in further interaction with you. Take care. ] (]) 04:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Another way of stating this would be to say that you didn't follow the date format rules (why doesn't really matter), used misleading/uninformative edit summaries experienced editors have seen countless times before with BCE->BC and CE->AD transforms like 'Minor clean up' and 'Minor grammar cleanup', and Remsense left you an informative message to help you avoid repeating these kinds of errors. ] (]) 04:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{AN3|no}} Remsense smartly reverted his last revert, so ]. However, this has not been Wikipedians at their best. The IP's that the cited source does not mention this has not been addressed; instead this edit war broke out over something entirely procedural which is not even policy. Further discussion should, I think, focus on the issue around the sourcing of "equitable" and whether that word should be cited in the intro. ] (]) 18:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{reply to|Daniel Case}} A violation ''did'' occur. happened long ''after'' the violation was reported here at ]. You cannot exempt a user from punishment just because they self-reverted long ''after'' being reported to try to avoid said punishment. Furthermore, Remsense . ] (]) 17:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Blocks are not a punishment, but a way to end and prevent disruption. By self-reverting, they recognized they erred, meaning the risk of further disruption is low. If you wish to pursue a grievance against another user's alleged broad pattern of behavior, that's not done here, but at ]. ] (]) 18:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::{{+1}} ] (]) 18:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::{{reply to|331dot}} {{reply to|Daniel Case}} That's what punishment does: Deterrence. By letting Remsense get away with this violation, you're breaking your own rules and encouraging similar behavior in the future.
:::::::Do you have any personal connection with Remsense? ] (]) 21:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::It's funny this happened on ], given how frivolous and easily superseded this line of argumentation is. In cases as transparently explicable as this, unmediated claims of conspiracy truly are the last refuge of the scoundrel. Bless. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 21:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::{{reply to|Remsense}} Calling a user a "scoundrel" after you've already made several personal attacks? Not wise. There's already a case building up against you. ] (]) 19:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::] I've indulged your repeated baiting of me more than enough at this point, so from now on please refrain from speaking to me unless you have something about site content you need to discuss. Thank you. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 19:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{reply to|Remsense}} Calling a user a "scoundrel" is a personal attack. ] (]) 19:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::{{reply to|331dot}} {{reply to|Daniel Case}} To clarify, are you saying that if someone self-reverts long ''after'' being reported for a violation, they are exempt from any kind of consequence? ] (]) 21:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Given you have safely proven yourself a scholar of counting to 4, I recommend the remainder of ] to expand your horizons even further. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 22:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::This wasn't really helpful. ] (]) 22:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::{{reply to|331dot}} Remsense has already made 3 personal attacks on this matter. Will you hold them accountable for that? Or will you let them get away with it, again? ] (]) 19:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::I suggest that you move on from this matter. ]. I've already told you how you can pursue a grievance if that's something you really want to do. ] (]) 19:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{tqi|WP:DROPTHESTICK}} Ah, the classic last retort of someone who has no rebuttal and knows they're in the wrong. By the way, "DROPTHESTICK" isn't policy. ] (]) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I don't claim that it is. It's advice. ] (]) 19:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I have nothing to say beyond what I already said. If you have evidence that they have truly not recognized their errors, or have a long pattern of behavior that requires evaluation and action by the community, AN is the proper forum. ] (]) 22:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::And no, I have no connection with this user. ] (]) 22:14, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::{{tqi|If you have evidence that they have truly not recognized their errors}} Remsense has already been blocked twice before for edit warring: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Remsense. ] (]) 19:23, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Well, they're exempt from 3RR as ] clearly exempts reverts of your own reverts for ''exactly'' the reason 331dot mentioned. If there are other policies they have violated that might lead to a block, no, they're not off that hook. ] (]) 04:49, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::{{reply to|Daniel Case}} Which point of ] do you claim absolves Remsense of this violation? Be specific. ] (]) 19:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Daniel very clearly answered this already. ] (]) 19:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{reply to|331dot}} No, he didn't. Point 1 of ] means reverting yourself doesn't ''add'' to the 3RR count, not that it ''subtracts'' from it. ] (]) 19:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::That is the most common method of remedying a 3RR or 1RR violation, and is very common practice. ] (]) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::{{reply|ScottishFinnishRadish}} So you admit a violation ''did'' occur. And "remedying" ≠ exempting. ] (]) 19:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::]. You really need to move on, this is becoming disruptive. ] (]) 19:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Why do you want me to "move on" from pursuing fair enforcement of Misplaced Pages's policies? As an administrator, you should be careful with your words. ] (]) 19:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Wait until they find out that there is no policy definition of "revert". ] (]) 19:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{reply to|ScottishFinnishRadish}} What's the point of your comment? Instead of being cryptic, why don't you state it outright? 19:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Policy pages are descriptive not proscriptive, and a lot of things are outright missing, e.g. the definition of what is forbidden by 3RR. ] (]) 19:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::{{reply to|ScottishFinnishRadish}} {{tqi|Policy pages are... not proscriptive}} False. Read ]:
::::::::::::::<div style="border: 2px solid #990000; background-color: #FFCCCC; border-radius: 1em; padding: 10px;">An editor must not perform {{strong|more than three reverts}} on a {{strong|single page}}—whether involving the same or different material—within a {{strong|24-hour period}}. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule often attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Fourth reverts just outside the 24-hour period will usually also be considered edit-warring, especially if repeated or combined with other edit-warring behavior. See ] for exemptions.</div>
::::::::::::::{{tqi|a lot of things are outright missing, e.g. the definition of what is forbidden by 3RR}} False. It's very clearly stated at ]. How is someone like you an administrator if you don't know this? ] (]) 19:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::What is the policy definition of a revert? ] (]) 19:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::{{reply to|ScottishFinnishRadish}} ]. Do I really need to take you on a tour of Misplaced Pages's policies and basic vocabulary? Aren't you an administrator? You should've already known this. ] (]) 20:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::As you said above, that's not a policy. ] (]) 20:08, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Abot}}


== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked from article for a week) ==
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I recently created navbox ] in an attempt to relate his ~180 film appearances, due to the "no no" creation of ''Films by Actor'' categories, and his filmography is split between 3 articles making accessibility tricky. Having created it, I placed it on the majority of his films. ] raised the template via TfD claiming there was a "consensus" against filmography navboxes, which actually amounts to a ] of TfDs varying between 3 and 5+ years old, and is not a community approved consensus represented in guideline or policy, otherwise I wouldn't have created the said navbox in first place.


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|1917 (2019 film)}}
{{cot|title=Previous TfD dates}}
* ] – 19 April 2007
* ] – 18 June 2007
* ] – 21 July 2007
* ] – 12 August 2007
* ] – 13 August 2007
* ] – 14 August 2007
* ] – 21 August 2007
* ] – 24 October 2007
* ] – 10 January 2008
* ] – 23 January 2008
* ] – 24 January 2008
* ] – 20 April 2008
* ] – 25 May 2008
* ] – 16 July 2008
* ] – 13 September 2008
* ] – 26 November 2008
* ] – 28 December 2008
* ] – 29 December 2008
* ] – 27 April 2009
* ] – 6 May 2009
* ] – 9 May 2009
* ] – 17 May 2009
* ] – 30 September 2009
{{cob}}


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|MapReader}}
Despite not yet receiving any support to delete the navbox, Lugnuts proceeded to remove it from the John Wayne films. I believe, given the 3–5 period since the last TfD that ] is the case. No one seems in a hurry to "delete" other than Lugnuts. I asked Lugnuts to stop removing the templates and wait for the outcome, and replaced about 30 which he has got through. This morning, his first action was to immediately revert all the replacements. I consider this ]y edit warring behaviour, in addition to him reverting his TfD notification which was harassing my talk page (see below). I don't know whether this is ]ish behaviour or just being a nuisance.. but when an editor raises a template for deletion and he proceeds to remove it without ''any''' support, that represents a COI, does it not? I request that Lugnuts be warned not to remove the templates without proper consensus before ''the end'' of the TfD.. he's only wasting time and resources by edit warring in favour of his deletion before anyone has even !voted. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ m . . (3,239 bytes) '''(-1,214)'''‎ . . (] edits by ] (]) to last version by MarcusBritish) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (4,453 bytes) <span dir="ltr">(+134)</span>‎ . . (]‎<span dir="auto">Nomination for deletion of Template:Filmography of John Wayne</span>) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (4,319 bytes) '''(+1,080)'''‎ . . (Undid revision 516476362 by ] (])) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (3,239 bytes) '''(-1,066)'''‎ . . (Undid revision 516475982 by ] (]) It's a notification, I've read it.. don't need it now. Deleted.) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (4,305 bytes) '''(+1,066)'''‎ . . (Undid revision 516455772 by ] (]) Something to hide?) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ m . . (3,239 bytes) '''(-1,066)'''‎ . . (] edits by ] (]) to last version by MarcusBritish) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (4,305 bytes) <span dir="ltr">(+224)</span>‎ . . (]‎<span dir="auto">Nomination for deletion of Template:Filmography of John Wayne</span>) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (4,081 bytes) <span dir="ltr">(+278)</span>‎ . . (]‎<span dir="auto">Nomination for deletion of Template:Filmography of John Wayne</span>) ()
* (] | ]) ]‎ ] (] | ])‎ . . (3,803 bytes) '''(+564)'''‎ . . ()


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
* ] shows these navigation boxes for actors should not be created, I'm simply removing the vandalism from this user. I've tried to talk to him, but he reverts my comments in a very child-like way. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
# {{diff2|1265946281|10:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) It's a long-standing descriptor that has been in the article since early 2020, not that long after the film was released, that has been discussed extensively at least twice. You challenge it by going to the talk page."
::Vandalism.. what fucking vandalism? Have you even read ]? That was uncivil and anti-AGF. And those are individual consenus' not a Wiki-wide policy.. they don't represent consensus. The editor who made that page is even retired. You haven't tried to talk to me, you're simply playing ]s. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
# {{diff2|1265894186|04:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) The page carries the full discussion from 2020 and 2023, which includes reference to the relevant guidelines and the necessary citations. You don’t just wade in a year later and change the article without resuming the talk."
:::I have tried talking to you, but you keep reverting my comments on your talkpage - I guess you have something to hide. And please read ], son. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
# {{diff2|1265827012|21:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) There was no consensus for your removal, which referred to talk page discussions that didn’t exist, or at least weren’t contemporary"
::::Don't call me "son", I asked you once already, makes you sound like a pervert..and creeps me out.. and go read ], and stop harassing me FFS!! READ: STOP EDITING MY TALK PAGE! ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
# {{diff2|1265757721|14:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Per RS, restoring the consensus position prior to the autumn edit"
:::::You seem to have issues! 09:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC) ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::I've asked you no less than five times to stop editing my user page.. unless you've got severe learning difficulties then it should be clear what that means. You're ]ING me, and I won't tolerate it. Disgusting.. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:38, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Again, please be ]. I'm not harassing you at all. I'm trying to discuss this issue with you. Please grow up. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::], you're a master. But not good enough. Try writing some high-quality articles for a change instead of wasting your time defending those 13,000 stubs you created and making it harder for the rest of us to build an encyclopedia. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:And what contributions have you made, son? Oh yes, 2hrs hard spamming of a template that isn't needed. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::Which equates ''your opinion'' to being nothing more than ]. Zero AGF, plenty of abuse dished out for it, edit warring, casting false Vandal remarks, condescending use of "son", harassing my talk page.. should be blocked for pissing on the Five pillars. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::No, that's ''your'' opinion about WP:IJDLI. I've backed my edits with the consensus that exists. You have not. And you're in no place to talk about blocks with your comments. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Doesn't exist. Isn't referenced on ] nor on ], it's hidden away in archives. Not published. Like a minefield without a "warning mines" notice. Let people walk right on in before making an issue of it. WP:Film must have all the brains if that's now it operates "policy". ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 10:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
;Third opinion comments
# {{diff2|1265942155|10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on ]."
*It's not vandalism, but at the same time it's not edit-warring either: if an editor adds a template to a bunch of articles, another editor has the right to remove it. As far as I know, none of the film articles have actor templates (just director templates) which is most likely why Lugnuts has challenged it, so if this is a new form of template being added to a wide range of film articles it is probably best to get some input at ] first. ] (]) 09:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks Betty. I raised the discussion on ] and I'm going on the current consensus that film actor nav boxes have been deleted in the past. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::An editor only has right to remove it with good reason. Given the open TfD, there is no good reason that does not present a COI. The sole purpose of TfD is to establish a consensus on the matter.. by taking the matter into his own hands, pre-close, he is bypassing consensus and trying to enforce HIS own preference. That is the very definition of war editing. There is no "current consensus" because those earlier TfDs are not a "let's establish a consensus" discussion, they are independent of each other and of this.. therefore he is simply using false pretences for his pretentious and POV-push behaviour. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 09:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes, the good reason is the consensus not to use them. Now read that back to me so I know you understand. The page I've linked to is titled "Consensus summaries". See - the word consensus is in the title! Seems pretty clear to me. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::So a title makes it true? Don't be daft, it's an archived page, not published as policy. Key word: not. There is no consensus in there, no overall "all for one" community vote. You're simply promoting a cabal of opinions, not highlighting a an actual WP: link policy. If it were "policy" why were so many templates created over a 3-year period, answer that one.. ''']'''<sup>'''{]}'''</sup> 10:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
{{hab}}


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) ==
# {{diff2|952190013|00:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC) on Talk:1917 (2019 film)}} "/* Country? */ r"


<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Venezuelan presidential election, 2012}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|190.142.53.99}}


There is no consensus for this inclusion that this editor has restored 4 times in the past day, despite multiple prior talk page discussions. – ] (]) 10:43, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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:: This editor has repeteadly endeavoured to force a change in an article that has twice been subject to lengthy prior discussion, ignoring all my requests for him to raise this on the talk page in the normal way. The diff he or she provides as an "attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page" is four and a half years old, and not from the same account name, and doesn't represent any attempt to resolve the issue since it was a contribution to a discussion that both left the article unchanged and has been superseded by a longer more recent one, in 2023, that established consensus. Pitching up four years later and trying to force a change after a discussion in which you took part - under a different account name - simply because you disagree with the outcome and without resuming the conversation or taking any account of a lengthy further discussion in which this editor apparently did not take part, is disruptive editing.
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:::{{AN3|b|one week}} from the article. This was a tough one to call. I thought seriously about declining it as all the discussion has been civil and it seems everyone is not only acting in good faith but ] (well, there is as of now ]). Had I decided to decline, I would have done so on the basis of the edit being reverted to being rather old ... we have no policy guidance on how old that edit has to be; sometimes people here have cited year-old edits as the basis of their complaint. But at the same time I would commend MapReader's attention to ]: "''... a lack of response to an edit does not necessarily imply community consent''", contrary to .<p>The underlying problem is, as IN notes , is that this dispute falls neatly into a gap that FILMCOUNTRY fails to address, an issue as noted best resolved at the policy level. In the meantime, though, policy shortcomings cannot be allowed to justify edit wars, and in the meantime I read LOCALCONSENSUS as, by implication, deferring to the decision made here on the talk page.<p>MapReader is acting in good faith when they point out the lack of clear guidance. All the same ... while they are correct again to note the deficiency of citing the 2020 discussion as a basis for consensus when the 2023 discussion exists, I read that 2023 discussion as, in the noted absence of clarity at the policy level, establishing a consensus for following FILMCOUNTRY and leaving the countries of production out of the lede entirely while noting them in the infobox. MapReader's good-faith skepticism about Lumiere's methodology notwithstanding, it does not give them the right to revert the current lede.<p>Since, as it turned out, I have previously partially blocked MapReader before for similar conduct, and there has been an intervening sitewide block, I am doing it again, this time for longer. ] (]) 19:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you for the explanation. Just to be clear, the lead was stable between 2020 and late summer this year, 2024, on the basis of the 2020 and 2023 discussions. It was the other editor - who appears to have contributed briefly to the 2020 discussion but under a different username - who intervened to make a change late this summer, without revisiting the talk page at all, and after I restored the status quo, has attempted to force this through today without discussion. While I realise I made one revert too many, his/her gaming 3RR to force through an edit that runs contrary to previous discussion, and citing a four year old comment as evidence of being willing to talk about it, was having a laugh, IMHO. ] (]) 22:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Like I said, this is best addressed at the policy level. ] (]) 18:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Page protected) ==
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|2024 Wisconsin Senate election}} <br />
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Stormy160}}


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
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:{{AN3|n}}. It's a clear violation of the 3-revert rule. It appears that the IP is from Venezuela, saw something on the news, and attempted to report it in the article, but he doesn't understand sourcing or other rules at Misplaced Pages. He did revert after he was warned about edit-warring, but it doesn't appear that he's reverted since participating in a discussion at the talk page. It's been about 45 minutes since his last revert. My inclination is not to block him unless he reverts again or attempts to add any unsourced material to the article. However, I could understand another admin coming to a different conclusion.--] (]) 22:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::{{AN3|d}}. The parties have moved on.--] (]) 23:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Restriction agreed to) ==


{{archive top|1=Further discussion here is unlikely to help. Take this to some other venue if you wish. ] (]) 02:09, 11 October 2012 (UTC) }}
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Canadian Human Rights Commission free speech controversy}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Hyperionsteel}}


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Previous version reverted to: (although thankfully I have been able to secure the removal of BLP violations cited to a lobbying organization)


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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />I have repeatedly tried to discuss it with the editor, posting a long response to each thing reverted in the article but to no avail, as the user read my response, disagreed, and then reverted back to their desired change, claiming I said something I did not. I have no idea hoe else to resolve this conflict because the table me and other editors built has had 0 issue until this one editor came in and started claiming issues existed with it (that don't exist by the way). <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign -->
In these reverts, Hyperionsteel repeatedly restores BLP violations including but not limited to a controversial and unverifiable quote from an individual that's subsequently used as a hook for two long paragraphs of criticism of the individual, false or exaggerated statements of supposed fact about a living person's character and employment history, and descriptions of various individuals as lacking basic general knowledge of understanding of free speech.
:Yes, that is edit-warring. PS - We should have a link to the ''consensus'' being mentioned. ] (]) 16:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::This user will not engage at all. I gave examples of what I was talking about, only to be called “dense”. They clearly just want full control over the page, nobody is allowed to edit their previous work. So yes, I did try to explain the precedent. I engaged on the talk page to no avail, which of course the user did not mention in their report. ] (]) 21:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|p}} ] (]) 16:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Page full-protected for three days) ==
Edit-warring also ; same general business. I'd begun by removing a large amount of poorly sourced material, citing BLP as one of several reasons, but after being reverted I continued removing only the BLP violations, rather than the other poorly sourced but less urgent material.


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Pooja Hegde}}
(While there are 4 reverts in just over 24 hours, which some would view as an attempt to ] 3RR, that isn't even my point and I didn't realize it was the case until I was compiling the report; the problem is the edit-warring to restore BLP violations. I've removed them and explained why they cannot be included, but that hasn't stopped this user. I obviously am at 4RR but I've stated very clearly in each revert that I am removing BLP violations, which I enumerate in the edit summaries and which take priority over that bright-line.)


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Thesanas}}
User also - to describing a BLP subject as a "race-obsessed paranoiac" before "compromising" and removing that line, while (which he's continuing to edit-war into the article linked above; see the bottom of the diffs).


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
And this has just come to my notice at {{la|Antisemitism}}:
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
Originally just an RS problem, but one of the ''other'' users reverting Hyperionsteel pointed out that the edit was apparently plagiarism as well, which did not faze him at all.
# {{diff2|1266008901|17:49, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Restoring the last version by User:Charliehdb"
# {{diff2|1265919879|07:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]): WP:ONUS applies to those who adds contents. I only replaced with reliable sources. Please stop WP:EDITWAR here"


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
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# {{diff2|1265915618|06:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]."


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
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# {{diff2|1265915247|06:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* GA article */"
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (and earlier)


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Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: ]
(The discussion is generally over Hyperionsteel's insistence on the use of op-eds from unreliable papers; the bottom of the discussion concerns the BLP material specifically, which is also at ].)


Additional warring is and . User erased previous warning from their talk page and was warned numerous times about getting consensus on the talk page. Has been reverted by three different editors at this point but user still does not seem to get it. ] (]) 00:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
<u>Comments:</u> <br />Already elaborated above, I think. –] (] &sdot; ]) 06:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:The additions to Antisemitism were blatant copy-pasted plagiarism. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::First of all, I admit I may have reverted this file more than 3 times within a 24-hour period (even though ] acknowledges that I technically haven't) but only because ] repeatedly removed huge portions of properly cited material from these article without any discussion on the article's talk page and her refusal to accept that mainstream newspapers are acceptable sources under Misplaced Pages guidelines. I find it ironic that ] accuses me of edit warring, as she has engaged in this behaviour to repeatedly and unjustifiably remove material from properly cited sources. I acknowledge that I did engage in numerous reverts of these files but I acted in good faith and did so only because properly sourced material was being repeated removed by ] without any discussion or resolution on the talk pages. I am prepared to face any consequences that may come of this, but I ask that ] also face similar discipline.
:::Second, how am I guilty of plagiarism? I've clearly cited and acknowledged the sources (which are RS) and provided proper citations, and I'm certainly not claiming that its my own work. I have asked ] to clarify, but he has declined to do so. If this is simply about the wording of the material added, this can be easily addressed.(] (]) 07:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC))
::::One more note, I asked ] to discuss his allegations of Plagiarism with me. The only response I received from him on my talk page that either I am "playing stupid" or that I shouldn't be editing Misplaced Pages (i.e. that I am stupid). I would appreciate it if ] would actually make arguments of substance instead of resorting to condesending and insulting remarks.(] (]) 11:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC))
:::::I'll gladly fill in here. For example, <s>every single paragraph</s> most paragraphs in uses the exact wording of a national post editorial without clear attribution. ] (]) 18:43, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Based on some further investigation, I have submitted this to ]. ] (]) 19:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:I have acknowledged that I should have taken more care when incorporating this material into Misplaced Pages. However, I did provide proper sources and citations. I also attempted to reinsert a paragraph which gave better attribution to the author and source and consisted of reworked language, but this was also removed, again with explanation or discussion. In any event, the issue here is not allegations of plagiarism but whether or not my reverts were justified. I believed they were justified because Roscelese was removing huge portions of several articles (without discussion) solely because of her newfound hatred for the National Post (based on one incorrect article, a few derogatory comments on RSN, and her own invective). I pointed out repeatedly that a mainstream newspaper such as the Post is considered reliable by Misplaced Pages standards, despite the fact that it has a conservative outlook.
I will begin rewording and reorganizing the material I entered in the Antisemitism article (and I admit, I should have done this the first time) but let's focus on the real issue here - Were Roseclese's mass removals of properly sourced material without discussion justified, and if so, were my efforts to revert this justify disciplinary action against myself.
One more thing - Roseclese directly accuses me of inserting false information into these articles. This I will challenge her on - please cite one example of false information that I entered.
Anyway, as a temporary compromise, I will agree to leave the BLP material in question off the pages while the debate about the RS is ongoing.(] (]) 19:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC))
:: Very well - as per ] suggestion on my talk page, I will agree not to edit either of these articles for on month. I will only suggest that users not remove large portions of properly cited material in these articles without discussing it on the talk page first.(] (]) 20:08, 9 October 2012 (UTC))
:::BLP violations are always removed immediately, without discussion. You wrote that a commissioner "has" no clear understanding of free speech, but the source said the commissioner "demonstrated" no clear understanding of free speech. You also wrote that the ''National Post'' "stated", but in fact they opined. The op-ed piece you cited was an attack piece aimed at the commissioner, but you made it more of an attack by couching it as hard fact rather than opinion gained by observation. You also violated ] by using an attack tone, and ] by emphasizing too much the attack piece. ] (]) 21:00, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::: I though this was finished but since Binksternet is making new allegations against me, I feel the need to respond. With regarding to his claim the I was "emphasizing too much the attack piece" clearly he didn't read the rest of the article. I included entire section on people who support the CHRC and even statments from the commissioner herself. True, I didn't include this in the criticism section, because the criticism section is for --- Criticism! With regards to the NPOV claim, I can understand how the tone is too harsh, and I would be willing to accept alternatives. You also accuse me of misquoting the Post - This is what the Post originally wrote: "...when calling for the review, chief commissioner Jennifer Lynch demonstrated no clear understanding of free speech or the value of protecting it." When I incorporated this information into the article, I wrote: "The Post '''stated''' that Chief commissioner Jennifer Lynch '''has''' "''no clear understanding of free speech or the value of protecting it''". Also, I explicitly noted at the start of this section that the Post editorial board was the author(s) of the article - "In June 2008, the ] published an editorial which harshly criticized Canada's Human Rights Commissions (HRCs)." I assumed I had made it clear that this section was sourced from an editorial and was to taken as such - i.e. it is the opinion of the Post's editorial board. I also assumed that such a statement/opinion written in an editorial would not be considered as a "hard fact" - I certainly was not "couching it" as you have alleged - It is clear in both versions that this is the opinion of the editorial board and not a "hard fact" - even if I did use the word "stated" as opposed to "opined". You seem to be implying that because I wrote that the Post "stated" something as opposed to "opined" something that it must automatically (or implicitly) be treated as a "hard fact." This is simply not true.(] (]) 00:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC))


:I restored user:Charliehdb last edit . What is the mistake in restoring other users edits? I am here to expand and make this article with reliable sources. Why are you removing my edits with reliable sources and making this article with unreliable sources? ] (]) 02:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks to Hyperionsteel for his agreement to not edit the two articles for a month. It seems to me that this should allow the 3RR report to be closed without sanctions against Hyperionsteel. I have not yet been convinced that Roscelese's reverts are covered by the BLP defence. I don't see a consensus anywhere that blanket exclusion of material from the National Post is justified, or that removal of Post opinions by itself is exempt from 3RR when the Post expresses a negative opinion about individuals. Misquotation of the Post by Hyperionsteel is obviously another matter. ] (]) 21:05, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::Pretty sure {{u|Charliehdb}} is a ]. ] (]) 06:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::I'm concerned that such a result will not solve the problem; if Hyperionsteel is allowed to think that the problem is with the articles rather than with his own behavior, the behavior will continue at other articles during that month and possibly return after the month's end. He needs to understand that edit-warring in order to restore copyrighted material or controversial and unverified material about living people is not acceptable. –] (] &sdot; ]) 01:05, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Wouldn't surprise me but I am not sure I would get much reception at SPI at this point with as many filings I have done recently on Indian film related UPE, SOCKS, and MEAT.--] (]) 07:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::They obviously do not care about ] and likely UPE based on the continued . I will let them continue to bludgeon and just roll back once they are blocked. Not worth the stress of trying to clean up the page when they don't seem to want to work within a collaborative community. --] (]) 07:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{AN3|p}} in full for three days, since while the submitted diffs do not constitute a violation as there aren't enough, we clearly can't let this go on. With the allegations of socking and meating, this really should go to AN/I ... or SPI, CNMall's reservations notwithstanding. ] (]) 18:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) ==
'''Additional comment''' - Rather than making a new post, I think I'll just include it here since it's the same article, but it's come to my attention that possibly another editor, Seb az86556, edit-warred with Hyperionsteel as well, violating 3RR, based on what Ed wrote above (if I'm reading it correctly. Seb said he was reverting a copyvio, not sure if this is covered in 3RR, but if I'm reading the above correctly, I don't think this revert counts in this case). I will notify them about this. If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry for the trouble:
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:reverting copyvios is indeed exempt. <small>(and by the way, the diffs you give aren't even all reverts)</small> ] <sup>]</sup> 00:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::Actually, they are all reverts - either a direct use of the button or removing passages in Malaysia in a back-and-forth dispute that could've been just as easily solved through the talk page. Per ], "Undoing other editors—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert." That's exactly what is here.
::Secondly, I brought this up because it isn't so clear that they were indeed copyvios and that this back-and-forthness was legitimate in that extent. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''] ]'''</small> 01:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::of course they were copyvios. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Result:''' Restriction agreed to by Hyperionsteel. He will not edit ] or ] for one month. I'm closing with no further action because there are so many copyvios, it is not even worth checking out whether reverts are covered by BLP. Hyperionsteel is warned not to violate copyright in the future. He should pay attention to the new entry at ] about his edits and see if he can fix the problems listed. Roscelese seems to misunderstand the BLP exception to 3RR, since ] only exempts extreme cases. If someone wants to include editorial opinion from a national Canadian newspaper, those opinions are hardly unsourced defamation. The wisdom of including these opinions should be decided by the consensus of editors, not by a single individual. If Roscelese wants to remove all editorial opinions of the National Post from all Misplaced Pages articles, she should open an RfC. ] (]) 01:42, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
**I've explained in response to your comment on my talk page that op-eds simply are not reliable for statements of fact, especially about living people and especially when reliable sources contradict them. Please don't fall prey to Hyperionsteel's misrepresentation of the dispute he was edit-warring over. –] (] &sdot; ]) 01:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::*This sounds like an argument you should be making at ] or ], where broader issues are considered. Repeatedly reverting material you disagree with is risky. ] (]) 02:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::*It's already at BLPN, where there's no consensus to override the normal BLP and RS policies of not using op-eds for statements of fact and not including unverifiable and controversial material about living individuals. –] (] &sdot; ]) 02:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Actually, this started because of Roscelese's newfound hatred of the National Post and her attempts to remove huge portions of articles (not just BLP issues) on her own initiative without any discussion, except for her own invective in the edit comments. I tried to explain to her that mainstream newspaper such as the Post are considered RS by wiki standards, despite the fact that the post has an ideological outlook which she despises. Instead she repeatedly launched into tirades about how the Post "makes stuff up" and is hostile to Muslims/minorities based on a single article published by the Post (as well as other media outlets) which later turned out to be based on false information) and a few derogatory (but unsupported) comments about the Post on RSN. I took the action I did because Roceslese appeared unable to accept that she cannot aribitrarily remove huge portions of articles simply because she hates the Post because of its political outlook (her unfounded allegations and conclusions about the Post have been discussed at length in the talk pages). If anyone is falling prey to something, it is Roceslese's rather arrogant belief that she and she alone can declare the Post an unreliable source for Misplaced Pages).
:I also reminded her that wiki guidelines allow the use of op-eds and columnists as RS if they are from mainstream media outlets.
::As for Roseclese new accusations, I realize now that some of the edits I have made over the last five years may indeed have violated wiki copyright rules (although it has never been brought to my attention until now). I will make every effort to avoid this in the future and to correct any and all mistakes I have made in the past. Even so, I will continue to add material from reliable sources (while ensuring that these additions are sufficiently paraphrased to comply with wiki standards). I will also bring to attention any attempts by users such as Roscelese who believe they can arbitrarily decide that a mainstream newspaper (one of the largest in Canada) is unreliable simply because they don't approve of their political stance.(] (]) 18:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC))
:::Your comments indicate that you have absolutely no conception of why your behavior at the CHRC article (inserting unverifiable and controversial, or verifiably false, material about living people) was wrong. It is very likely that this behavior will continue, and a voluntary restriction is clearly not sufficient. –] (] &sdot; ]) 22:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I have challenged you twice to provide an example of false information that I added to the CHRC article (you have yet to do so). Second, I certainly don't deny that the information was controversial. Third, as I have pointed out to you several times, all of the information I added came from mainstream media sources or from columnists who write for these papers, which are considered RS under Misplaced Pages guidelines. Finally, you are free to observe all my future edits (as I am sure you will) and point out any transgressions. You are also free to recommend harsher penalties against me (as I am sure you will). However, any sins I am guilty of doesn't change the fact that you arbitrarily removed huge portions of several articles based solely on your own determination that the Post is not a reliable source for Misplaced Pages (despite wiki guidelines to the contrary), which is how this got started in the first place (you also strongly implied that I used a sockpuppet, which is blatantly false, but we'll leave that aside for the time being). I accept that I have made serious errors and will attempt to correct them, but I will ask you (again) to stop making false accusations against me. Considering your own behavior, you are not really in a place to judge me. As this issue (edit warring) has been settled, I suggest that you stop using this page to attack me and that we move on.(] (]) 23:34, 10 October 2012 (UTC))
::::On the contrary, I've pointed out that the Steacy quote is unverifiable and that the Chopra information is verifiably false. I've also pointed out several times that we cannot use op-eds for statements of fact and that the BLP guidelines are even stricter than our normal sourcing guidelines, and you have flat-out ignored me for no reason other than that you apparently like reading Jonathan Kay's opinion columns over your breakfast cereal. If you continue to violate Misplaced Pages policy, you will be reported again. –] (] &sdot; ]) 23:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::: Sigh. You are still claiming that the Steacy quote is unverifiable - as I have pointed out, Mr. Steacy was quoted by three different columnists (], John Ivision, and ]) that have been published in the National Post, the Ottawa Citizen, and the Edmonton Journal (Jonathan Kay has cited this quote in two articles, one in 2008 and again in 2012). I also pointed out that Senator Doug Findlay criticized Steacy in the Canadian Senate. Now, I believed (perhaps wrongly) that all of these sources combined are sufficient evidence to sufficiently verify this quote for Misplaced Pages. You are free to disagree with me on this, but don't state that the quote is unverifiable. Second, what information about Chopra was "verifiably false"? - true Jonathan Kay described in him in extremely unflattering terms, although it is true that Kay cited only one employee who held a certain view about Chopra instead of several (I acknowledge this error). It certainly does not place Mr. Chopra is a positive light, but it was clear that this was the opinion of the columnist and not a fact (i.e. "Kay described Chopra as ....).
:::: Second, How am not ignoring you? I have responded to all of your rigmarole here and on the talk pages - I clearly do not agree with you on a number of issues, and I will continue to debate them with you as long as you wish, but I am certainly not ignoring you.
::::Third, you are absolutely correct: If I (just like every other Misplaced Pages editor) violate Misplaced Pages policy, then it should be reported.
::::Fourth, I was ask you again to stop using this page as your soapbox. The 3RR issue has been settled. It's time to move on.
::::Finally, your last comment about me was both wrong and offensive - I eat fruit for breakfast, not cereal.
(] (]) 00:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC))


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|United States men's national junior ice hockey team}}
This back-and-forth argument to see who gets the last word in is futile and will likely not result in anything. Save your breath guys, save your time, there's no point in this chatter. At the heart of this is a content dispute that is best for talk pages, not for the AN3 noticeboard where a decision was already handed down. Make peace, shake hands, and sing Kumbaya around a campfire. But draw the line, and don't necessarily drag the conversation on when it has ended. It won't benefit anyone, and won't lead to anything. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''] ]'''</small> 01:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Stevencocoboy}}
== ] reported by ] (Result: Warned) ==


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|mellotron}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|221.160.109.38}}


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
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# {{diff2|1266124850|05:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* IIHF World Junior Championship */ Hide it first because ]"
# {{diff2|1266122972|05:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Please stop the edit war, I want to edit and update result only"
# {{diff2|1266121493|05:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Why? we can update the result which the events are finish"
# {{diff2|1266118183|05:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* IIHF World Junior Championship */"


'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
Previous version reverted to:


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* 1st revert:
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* 3rd revert:
* 4th revert:


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
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# {{diff2|1266124147|05:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC) on User talk:Stevencocoboy}} "/* Respecting consensus of your fellow editors */ new section"


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Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:


Look at his person's talk page. They have been warned over and over and over. Just at they must be 10x reverts. I didn't report that because he promised me he would be better, but it hasn't stopped him. ] (]) 07:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Sorry it's because I don't know a consensus in ]. I'm not American and my english is poor. I don't know we can't update a result and we need until the event was completed. Also I need using some times to translate what is talking about. After I translate it, I'm stopped edit in the page. Thanks. ] (]) 07:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
::Here's the thing... you have been warned of this many times on multiple subjects, and you've been editing here for 10 years now. I count that you have been warned 11x since September 2024... most of which you didn't answer on your talk page. In October you were told by an editor "Please ensure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges." On December 24 I told you to "Self-revert or I WILL report you, and you will get blocked" for 8 reverts of Template:U.S. Figure Skating Championships. The same day I told you "You are also dangerously close to being blocked for your edits at "U.S. Figure Skating Championships." Yesterday a third editor told you to stop vandalizing "United States men's national ice hockey team". You were told about edit warring and to read up on consensus by editors at WP:Hockey. And then again a warning for "United States men's national junior ice hockey team".


::This has gone on long enough. For your own good you need to be blocked a couple days to think about things and you really should be doing one edit and then move on to another topic. As soon as another editor reverts your new edit that should be a huge red ringing warning not to edit that page again until given the go-ahead by other editors on the talk page. This has to stop NOW before your privilege of editing here gets revoked. I was stern with you on your talk page about your 8 reverts, but you stopped and we came to a compromise, and I did not report you. Since then your talk page has been filled by five more minor and major warnings. ] (]) 08:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
I suggest using semi-protection for this article, as the editor in question (who does not log in with a wikipedia account) has been editing the article in this fashion for over half a decade, and shows no regard for ], ], ] etc.] (]) 19:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I can promise stop editing about ice hockey pages in recent days and calm down more because I've make a controversial. I'm sorry again. Thanks. ] (]) 08:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{AN3|w}}. I've warned the IP that any further attempts to re-add the same material will result in a block. At the same time, Feline, you should be handling this problem differently. The crux of the problem is that the IP has been adding unsourced/unreliably sourced/unencyclopedic material but hasn't been formally warned of that. I note the discussion on the talk page, a good thing, but you have to keep your comments in check and focus only on the content issues, not any perceived conduct issues. Bickering, calling each other vandals, etc., is unconstructive. Also, for the future, diffs are listed here from earliest to latest, not the reverse. Also, the IP made 3 reverts not 4. Two of your diffs are part of the same edit sequence, which counts as only one revert.] (]) 00:22, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::::{{AN3|d}} with leave to re-report if reported user breaks his promise above. ] (]) 18:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, that's good enough for me. ] (]) 22:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thank you very much. ] (]) 01:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Indefinitely blocked) ==
:Thanks. :) ] (]) 08:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Huaynaputina}}
== ] reported by ] (]) (Result: 48 hours) ==


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Nifelheim}} '''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Atsee}}


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|H. 217.83}}


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
'''Time reported:''' 19:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
# {{diff2|1266208513|16:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) don't revert for no reason. If you disagree with my reasons for making an edit, you need to explain why."
# {{diff|oldid=1266205410|diff=1266205775|label=Consecutive edits made from 15:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC) to 15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}}
## {{diff2|1266205683|15:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) first one doesn't need to be a footnote; second is not necessary; third is not relevant; fourth doesn't even make sense."
## {{diff2|1266205775|15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) there is no citation where the fact tag has been placed. place the relevant citation there. that is all that needs doing."
# {{diff|oldid=1262695206|diff=1266185442|label=Consecutive edits made from 13:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC) to 13:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}}
## {{diff2|1266184197|13:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "removed a lot of footnotes which are redundant. there is no need for a definition of a term when the term is linked."
## {{diff2|1266185193|13:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "doesn't need a dictionary link"
## {{diff2|1266185442|13:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Caldera collapse */"


''Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC'' '''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:'''
# {{diff2|1266205992|15:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Your edits on Huaynaputina */ new section"


'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:'''
# <small>(edit summary: "No, you misunderstood me; by “my new edits” I meant e. g. the musical style section, which was not a part of any version before mine. But I announced “now that Williamsburgland is gone”, that part is correct.")</small>
# {{diff2|1266206482|15:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "/* Footnotes */ Reply"
# <small>(edit summary: "Still no need to undo the whole edit including the parts that don’t really have to do with the edit war (the section on the musical style; the comparisons with other bands weren’t referenced before my edit).")</small>
# <small>(edit summary: "Still no need to undo the whole edit; you could have corrected it yourself and left the message in the summary.")</small>
# <small>(edit summary: "Stop it, this is extremely stupid. You are creating needless versions by undoing the whole thing.")</small>
# <small>(edit summary: "Maybe I did not see one or two plural versions but at least I changed those I saw. Look at my different versions and you will see. No need for the sentence in the introduction since there is the section below. The Dissection members were no full members.")</small>
# <small>(edit summary: "/* Controversy */")</small>
# <small>(edit summary: "I own both the Slayer fanzine and the book with the interview’s reprint, so I know that is a quote. In your version, one of the footnotes is broken, but I guess you just didn’t see. I know the interview, maybe you should read the biography.")</small>
# <small>(edit summary: "How did that happen?")</small>


<u>'''Comments:'''</u>
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Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Cautioned user several times on page (see below) and in summaries.


Discussion at ], user repeatedly deleting footnotes without a valid reason on a Featured Article ''''']''''' (]) 16:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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:This user clearly wanted an edit war. Witness their utterly unhelpful edit summaries in their three reverts:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
:* - there is no inline "right there"; that's the precise reason I put a "fact" tag there.
:* - no other interpretation than reverting for the sake of reverting is possible.
:* - again reverting without any attempt to provide a rationale.
: There was no need to file this report. There is discussion on the talk page. The user evidently wanted an edit war, and evidently wanted to make a fuss about it. ] (]) 16:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::It took you multiple reverts before you actually even replied to the talk discussion, even after explaining in the FA and your talk pages, you continued to insinuate you are in the right. While the discussion was active, after Mike Christie's reply, you continued your reverts. ''''']''''' (]) 16:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I noticed the didn't trigger the undo tag but the edit summary suggest a revert and subsequent changes before publishing. It would count to three reverts. ''''']''''' (]) 16:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
*Indefinitely blocked along with their IPs for 3 months (]).--] (]) 17:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) ==
Involves myself, this editor and one or more IP/anon editors (?).


'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Matriarchy}}
Thank you for your time. --] (]) 19:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:{{AN3|n}}. I'm not seeing a clear warning of edit-warring, although the user, having been blocked before for edit-warring on the same article, should know better. You also neglected to notify the user of this discussion; I've done so for you.--] (]) 01:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, I know about edit wars. But it is obvious that my edits are not 100 % equal (you know how to compare versions), see my summaries which both users seem to ignore. And I don’t consider it acceptable to undo constructive edits completely because you believe one part of them to be erroneous or something like that, like both of them did; and yet the third user involved, Swankytank (unless this is a sock puppet of Thefirewillrise or vice versa; both started here almost at the same time and focussed on the Nifelheim article, though that may be coincidence), dares to call me a troll and tell ''me'' about manners. --]<small>/]</small> 05:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::That's a fair concern BB, but I'm aware of the user's history (I've edited in the past anonymously, just like the IP user above) and I had expressed my concerns and the response I received has been less than friendly. That said, I should have notified the user; this is my first involvement in one of these and while I thought I was supposed to post a notification I didn't see the template above. Now, onto the concerns above, the user should know well that edit warring is more than three reverts on an article, and it includes any reverts. The user above has reverted edits done by every user on the article going back to his first bout of edit warring and doesn't seem to care about anyone else's inputs. He is now resorting to accusing me of sockpuppetry, which I think is ridiculous. I created this user name around two months ago, and while it seems that I've forgotten to sign in (again, I'm fairly new to certain aspects of wikipedia and I almost always use work/shared computers and cannot stay signed it) until recently I have been editing the Nifelheim article for as long as the Pantera thing has been an issue. I assumed the other user , and it seems his first edits are on this article, but I thought that my edits had gone back further than what's on my edit history (I'm fairly certain I signed in and edited in August), so I don't know if there's a way to hide older edits. I'd like to work with both users on this but I think the above user's behavior is ridiculous. --] (]) 13:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I'd also like to bring to your attention. I don't know if it counts as forum shopping, but it seems unfair to me, particularly because at the very least the user is inferring I am a sock puppet again. He has also reverted my changes once again, this time to a version with grammatical errors. I'm really doing my best here. --] (]) 14:24, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
*{{AN3|b|48 hours}}. H. seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of ] and a history of edit-warring on the article, even between this block and his previous block in April. As for his sockpuppet accusations, the only comment I have is that the two editors' styles and points of view do not seem similar or aligned, although there's no doubt that the two are interested in the same articles, or in the case of Swankytank, just this article (except for one revert of vandalism on a completely unrelated article - Swankytank has only made 5 edits since registration).--] (]) 14:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
::H. posted a long message on their talk page and asked me to post it here. I'm uncomfortable doing that, but anyone who wants to can .--] (]) 15:05, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you for that notice and the note on my talk page. I'm hoping we're going to be able to work more peacefully when his block is up.--] (]) 20:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|36.228.143.128}}
== ] reported by ] (Result: Declined) ==


'''Previous version reverted to:'''
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Aircraft}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Steelpillow }}


'''Diffs of the user's reverts:'''
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# {{diff2|1266181569|13:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} ""
# {{diff2|1266162425|10:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} ""
# {{diff2|1266057097|22:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} ""
# {{diff2|1266056003|22:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)}} ""


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# {{diff2|1266184214|13:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]."


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IP has persistently inserted extraordinary claims and violated the three-revert rule. ] (]) 16:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{AN3|d}} as user has not edited since the last warning they got ten hours ago (of course, if they resume ...). I ''will'' leave a CTOPS notice on the talk page. ] (]) 19:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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User repeatedly tried to reinsert uncited material. After my first attempt to remove the uncited material, I tried to discuss the change on the talk page. Discussion was fruitless, no attempt was made by SteelPillow to find verifiable 3rd party sources to back up the material he wanted to keep in the article. Instead he proposed that I should come up with a better blurb. I pointed out that I wasn't the inclusionist, and if he wanted to keep the blurb, the burden of proof was on him to back up his claims with citations. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:BURDEN#When_a_reliable_source_is_required

He ignored that, so I removed the uncited blurb again, and then edit warring ensued. Dawnseeker then removed the uncited material again only for those edits to be reverted by The Bushranger. http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Aircraft&diff=516879154&oldid=516869559 ] (]) 20:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:{{nao}} There appears to be no violation of ] - all the reverts were in a period well over 48 hours, and the editors would be better following The Bushrangler's advice. ] (]) 12:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
:*{{AN3|d}}. It's true that there was no breach of 3RR by Steelpillow (3 reverts in 24 hours), but they certainly were edit-warring, along with ScienceApe, who only made 2 reverts, but they got help from Dawnseeker. Bushranger's point about ] is valid, but the content issues go deeper than that. The article has been tagged as lacking sources for well over 3 years. It's true that ScienceApe removed unsourced material from the article, which generally can be done (Steelpillow's analogy to the sky being blue is pretty weak), but the whole article is poorly referenced and poorly structured vis-a-vis the body and the lead. A good article would have a well-referenced body (this one doesn't) and a lead that summarizes the body (this one doesn't), and no references in the lead because everything in the lead is referenced in the body. The lead doesn't even come close to what a proper lead should be. It's too short, it has information that is not in the body, and obviously it doesn't highlight much of the body. In any event, the parties need to work out the small contretemps as best they can on the talk page and through ] if needed, but someone ought to tackle the larger - and more important - issues.--] (]) 14:45, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

== Constant edit warring on ] ==

== ] reported by ] (Result: ) ==

'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Jobie Hughes}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ohioana}}

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<u>Comments:</u> I'm reporting an ongoing reversion war between myself and ], which is pretty much a SPA that only edits Hughes's articles. The long story short is this: I came across the article, finding it not only out of date, but also suffering from some copyvio since large parts of the text in the biography section have been directly lifted from the author's bio page. I've not only edited the page to be more neutral, but I've combined all of the information about the one thing he is known for (Lorien Legacies) into one section and listed multiple reliable sources that talked about his leaving the series and why that might be. Ohioana has not only accused me of being biased and vandalizing the page because they personally didn't like what I wrote. The thing is, it's backed up with multiple independent and reliable sources and is never stated exactly as being cold hard fact, just that multiple reliable sources such as the WSJ had reported that Hughes had problems with the contract along with disliking the direction the series was going in. Every time I revert the edits, Ohioana reverts them back with the justification that they're "incorrect". I've yet to get any true explanation as to why, other than it appearing to be that they dislike that the page isn't full of glowing praise for Hughes, something I'd noticed in their edits for Hughes's ], which was also full of copyvio, weasel words, and reviews taken out of context. I've outright asked if they were connected to Hughes in some fashion, only to have that ignored. My reasons for this is that as far as the general public has reported, all we have to go on are the news articles such as the one by the WSJ and NY Magazine, so there's nothing that can actually disprove that what these news sources have reported on are incorrect. I'd reported this to the admin board since I'd had the accusations of vandalism and bias, only to not really get much help. Rather than have this keep going on, I waited it out until I could bring it up here because this isn't going to stop anytime soon. There was also another user that was reverting my edits- specifically the same edits Ohioana has issues with (), but they seem to have stopped so I'm not as worried about them.] (]) 01:14, 11 October 2012 (UTC)<br />

*{{AN3|n}}. Please see at ].--] (]) 01:34, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

== ] reported by ] (Result: ) ==

'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Couch Potatoes (game show)}} <br />
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|DawgDeputy}}

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This user has an incredible history of edit warring and ]. Viewing the , 1473 are reversions (almost 59%). The user provides a standard edit summary for most of these revisions consisting of either "unneeded", "unnecessary" or "unsourced". User has been for edit warring and twice for sock puppetry. How long will this behavior be tolerated? ] (]) 02:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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    User:TheHappiestEditor reported by User:Fylindfotberserk (Result: Blocked indefinitely for now)

    Page: Trisha Krishnan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: TheHappiestEditor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 22:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1265170057 by Fylindfotberserk (talk) She works in Malayalam cinema.There are two upcoming Malayalam films of Trisha. The total number of Malayalam films is not two."
    2. 13:14, 25 December 2024 (UTC) "/* top */She works in Malayalam films too. There are two upcoming Malayalam films of Trisha."
    • Diffs from other articles (language POV and edit war)
    1. - putting fake sources/infomation
    2. - putting fake sources/infomation
    3. - putting fake sources/infomation

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    Comments:

    POV pushing/cherry-picking "Malayalam" and edit warring in a lot of articles. Apart from the above listed, the user has been pushing "Malayalam" as one of the languages in which "actor XYZ" has acted 'predominantly' in but in actuality the entries are only a few . The editor has received multiple warnings for being disruptiove and a recent one for edit-warring from Krimuk2.0. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    TheHappiestEditor, please respond to these allegations. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    TheHappiestEditor has engaged in further edit-warring, with the same "Malayalam" language POV pushing, with 19Arham here here. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    @ToBeFree: Apparently, they do not want to respond here, but would very much continue with their POV . Also note removal of sources here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    @TheHappiestEditor and I spoke on my Talk page where they said the following: "The information regarding Wamiqa Gabbi has been removed multiple times despite being supported by reliable sources, such as . This violates Misplaced Pages's verifiability policy. Could we discuss this further to reach a consensus?" 19Arham (talk) 14:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    The removal of content isn't a violation of the verifiability policy; restoring content against WP:ONUS or WP:BURDEN is. Dealing with other editors' concerns about one's editing isn't optional if the editing continues, and TheHappiestEditor had the chance to respond here. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:103.84.130.238 reported by User:Fylindfotberserk (Result: Page protected)

    Page: Hariprasad Chaurasia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 103.84.130.238 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 12:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC) to 12:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
      1. 12:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1262480024 by Fylindfotberserk (talk)"
      2. 12:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC) ""https://www.hariprasadchaurasia.com" check the site pandit is part of his name , the site is run by him, also there are other similar cases too on wikipedia "

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    Comments:

    Keeps on adding (edit wars) honorifics despite explanation about WP:NCIN and MOS:HON in edit summaries and warnings Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    The IP was initially reported to AIV, since disruptive edits continued after a level 4 warning, but was asked to report it here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:Remsense reported by User:2001:569:7FEA:2900:D124:450:C36:AF27 (Result: No violation)

    Enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Page: Justice (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Remsense (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Comments: Guilty as charged. None of my justifications matter, since 3RR doesn't care that IPs can just slip into the night instead of actually engaging in discussion on talk, leaving a highly visible article in a broken state for hours because my hands are tied to fix it. Can't ask anyone else to fix it because that's canvassing. I've been given a lot of wiggle room here over the past couple months, so if this earns me a week then so be it. It's extremely frustrating trying to protect the most important articles on the site, so maybe after this I should just give up. Remsense ‥ 论 20:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

    @Remsense: Your accusation that I left a highly visible article in a broken state for hours is a completely baseless attack and should lengthen your block. Any administrator can read the article's diffs and confirm that at no point did I do such a thing. You're the one who deleted well-referenced material. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:D124:450:C36:AF27 (talk) 20:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
    As a related side note, it does not seem that the IP editor really cares to follow WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY in this instance. - Amigao (talk) 00:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    Add to the above the following personal attack by Remsense on the article's talk page: . 2001:569:7FEA:2900:D124:450:C36:AF27 (talk) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

    Additionally, when I notified Remsense with the appropriate user warning for this personal attack, they replied with get the hell off my page. This is a clear violation of WP:CIVILITY. Add it to the list. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:D124:450:C36:AF27 (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
    I would like to back up the complaint against Remsense here, as he also recently failed to assume good faith in edits I posted and attacked me personally as an editor. He then followed me and deleted another edit I had posted on an unrelated page afterward after I questioned his conduct on his talk page (which he then deleted.) I question whether his temperament is suitable to be a moderator on Misplaced Pages.
    MrJ567 (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    There is no such thing as a moderator on Misplaced Pages, Remsense is a Normal Editor like you and not an Admin Either. Untamed1910 (talk) 04:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    Thank you. I stand by my comments on his temperament and conduct regardless.
    MrJ567 (talk) 04:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    It is not reasonable to take someone's actions in good faith when they lie, both straightforwardly and by omission, in their representation of said actions to others. Remsense ‥ 论 04:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    No one lied, I made what I felt was a minor edit. You then jumped to incorrect conclusions, insulted me after I criticized your uncivil and unprofessional conduct and then stocked my editing history to an unrelated article. Your conduct in my view continues to be as I described, and I continue to hold your temperament to be ill-suited for editing here. I ask that you show humility and engage in much needed introspection and improve yourself if you intend to continue posting here. MrJ567 (talk) 04:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    It was not a "minor clean up", and you know it. I don't have to pretend I don't also know it, so don't bother. FWIW I have Indiana on my watchlist, but you're not entitled to your contribution history being immune from scrutiny when one instance belies the clear possibility of more. That's why it's there. Remsense ‥ 论 04:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    As I said, humility and introspection would serve you well, but I see no benefit in further interaction with you. Take care. MrJ567 (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Another way of stating this would be to say that you didn't follow the date format rules (why doesn't really matter), used misleading/uninformative edit summaries experienced editors have seen countless times before with BCE->BC and CE->AD transforms like 'Minor clean up' and 'Minor grammar cleanup', and Remsense left you an informative message to help you avoid repeating these kinds of errors. Sean.hoyland (talk) 04:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    No violation Remsense smartly reverted his last revert, so 3RR has not been violated. However, this has not been Wikipedians at their best. The IP's observation that the cited source does not mention this has not been addressed; instead this edit war broke out over something entirely procedural which is not even policy. Further discussion should, I think, focus on the issue around the sourcing of "equitable" and whether that word should be cited in the intro. Daniel Case (talk) 18:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Daniel Case: A violation did occur. That self-revert happened long after the violation was reported here at WP:AN3. You cannot exempt a user from punishment just because they self-reverted long after being reported to try to avoid said punishment. Furthermore, Remsense has committed the same violation before. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 17:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Blocks are not a punishment, but a way to end and prevent disruption. By self-reverting, they recognized they erred, meaning the risk of further disruption is low. If you wish to pursue a grievance against another user's alleged broad pattern of behavior, that's not done here, but at WP:AN. 331dot (talk) 18:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    +1 Daniel Case (talk) 18:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    @331dot: @Daniel Case: That's what punishment does: Deterrence. By letting Remsense get away with this violation, you're breaking your own rules and encouraging similar behavior in the future.
    Do you have any personal connection with Remsense? 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 21:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    It's funny this happened on Justice, given how frivolous and easily superseded this line of argumentation is. In cases as transparently explicable as this, unmediated claims of conspiracy truly are the last refuge of the scoundrel. Bless. Remsense ‥ 论 21:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Remsense: Calling a user a "scoundrel" after you've already made several personal attacks? Not wise. There's already a case building up against you. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    It's a set phrase. I've indulged your repeated baiting of me more than enough at this point, so from now on please refrain from speaking to me unless you have something about site content you need to discuss. Thank you. Remsense ‥ 论 19:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Remsense: Calling a user a "scoundrel" is a personal attack. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @331dot: @Daniel Case: To clarify, are you saying that if someone self-reverts long after being reported for a violation, they are exempt from any kind of consequence? 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 21:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Given you have safely proven yourself a scholar of counting to 4, I recommend the remainder of Misplaced Pages:Edit warring to expand your horizons even further. Remsense ‥ 论 22:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    This wasn't really helpful. 331dot (talk) 22:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    @331dot: Remsense has already made 3 personal attacks on this matter. Will you hold them accountable for that? Or will you let them get away with it, again? 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    I suggest that you move on from this matter. WP:DROPTHESTICK. I've already told you how you can pursue a grievance if that's something you really want to do. 331dot (talk) 19:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    WP:DROPTHESTICK Ah, the classic last retort of someone who has no rebuttal and knows they're in the wrong. By the way, "DROPTHESTICK" isn't policy. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    I don't claim that it is. It's advice. 331dot (talk) 19:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    I have nothing to say beyond what I already said. If you have evidence that they have truly not recognized their errors, or have a long pattern of behavior that requires evaluation and action by the community, AN is the proper forum. 331dot (talk) 22:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    And no, I have no connection with this user. 331dot (talk) 22:14, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    If you have evidence that they have truly not recognized their errors Remsense has already been blocked twice before for edit warring: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Remsense. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    Well, they're exempt from 3RR as 3RRNO clearly exempts reverts of your own reverts for exactly the reason 331dot mentioned. If there are other policies they have violated that might lead to a block, no, they're not off that hook. Daniel Case (talk) 04:49, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Daniel Case: Which point of 3RRNO do you claim absolves Remsense of this violation? Be specific. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    Daniel very clearly answered this already. 331dot (talk) 19:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @331dot: No, he didn't. Point 1 of WP:3RRNO means reverting yourself doesn't add to the 3RR count, not that it subtracts from it. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    That is the most common method of remedying a 3RR or 1RR violation, and is very common practice. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @ScottishFinnishRadish: So you admit a violation did occur. And "remedying" ≠ exempting. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    WP:WIKILAWYER. You really need to move on, this is becoming disruptive. 331dot (talk) 19:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    Why do you want me to "move on" from pursuing fair enforcement of Misplaced Pages's policies? As an administrator, you should be careful with your words. 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    Wait until they find out that there is no policy definition of "revert". ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @ScottishFinnishRadish: What's the point of your comment? Instead of being cryptic, why don't you state it outright? 19:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    Policy pages are descriptive not proscriptive, and a lot of things are outright missing, e.g. the definition of what is forbidden by 3RR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @ScottishFinnishRadish: Policy pages are... not proscriptive False. Read WP:3RR:
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule often attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Fourth reverts just outside the 24-hour period will usually also be considered edit-warring, especially if repeated or combined with other edit-warring behavior. See below for exemptions.
    a lot of things are outright missing, e.g. the definition of what is forbidden by 3RR False. It's very clearly stated at WP:3RR. How is someone like you an administrator if you don't know this? 2001:569:7FEA:2900:8049:8F17:E1E:C306 (talk) 19:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    What is the policy definition of a revert? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    @ScottishFinnishRadish: WP:REV. Do I really need to take you on a tour of Misplaced Pages's policies and basic vocabulary? Aren't you an administrator? You should've already known this. 2605:8D80:5400:3F29:A8DC:F22C:78C3:6011 (talk) 20:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    As you said above, that's not a policy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:08, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    User:MapReader reported by User:Notwally (Result: Blocked from article for a week)

    Page: 1917 (2019 film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: MapReader (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 10:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1265942060 by Notwally (talk) It's a long-standing descriptor that has been in the article since early 2020, not that long after the film was released, that has been discussed extensively at least twice. You challenge it by going to the talk page."
    2. 04:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1265836072 by Notwally (talk) The page carries the full discussion from 2020 and 2023, which includes reference to the relevant guidelines and the necessary citations. You don’t just wade in a year later and change the article without resuming the talk."
    3. 21:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1265821239 by Notwally (talk) There was no consensus for your removal, which referred to talk page discussions that didn’t exist, or at least weren’t contemporary"
    4. 14:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC) "Per RS, restoring the consensus position prior to the autumn edit"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on 1917 (2019 film)."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 00:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC) on Talk:1917 (2019 film) "/* Country? */ r"

    Comments:

    There is no consensus for this inclusion that this editor has restored 4 times in the past day, despite multiple prior talk page discussions. – notwally (talk) 10:43, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    This editor has repeteadly endeavoured to force a change in an article that has twice been subject to lengthy prior discussion, ignoring all my requests for him to raise this on the talk page in the normal way. The diff he or she provides as an "attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page" is four and a half years old, and not from the same account name, and doesn't represent any attempt to resolve the issue since it was a contribution to a discussion that both left the article unchanged and has been superseded by a longer more recent one, in 2023, that established consensus. Pitching up four years later and trying to force a change after a discussion in which you took part - under a different account name - simply because you disagree with the outcome and without resuming the conversation or taking any account of a lengthy further discussion in which this editor apparently did not take part, is disruptive editing.
    MapReader (talk) 10:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    Blocked – for a period of one week from the article. This was a tough one to call. I thought seriously about declining it as all the discussion has been civil and it seems everyone is not only acting in good faith but reciprocally assuming it of the other parties (well, there is as of now only one on one side). Had I decided to decline, I would have done so on the basis of the edit being reverted to being rather old ... we have no policy guidance on how old that edit has to be; sometimes people here have cited year-old edits as the basis of their complaint. But at the same time I would commend MapReader's attention to WP:WEAKSILENCE: "... a lack of response to an edit does not necessarily imply community consent", contrary to what you suggest here.

    The underlying problem is, as IN notes here, is that this dispute falls neatly into a gap that FILMCOUNTRY fails to address, an issue as noted best resolved at the policy level. In the meantime, though, policy shortcomings cannot be allowed to justify edit wars, and in the meantime I read LOCALCONSENSUS as, by implication, deferring to the decision made here on the talk page.

    MapReader is acting in good faith when they point out the lack of clear guidance. All the same ... while they are correct again to note the deficiency of citing the 2020 discussion as a basis for consensus when the 2023 discussion exists, I read that 2023 discussion as, in the noted absence of clarity at the policy level, establishing a consensus for following FILMCOUNTRY and leaving the countries of production out of the lede entirely while noting them in the infobox. MapReader's good-faith skepticism about Lumiere's methodology notwithstanding, it does not give them the right to revert the current lede.

    Since, as it turned out, I have previously partially blocked MapReader before for similar conduct, and there has been an intervening sitewide block, I am doing it again, this time for longer. Daniel Case (talk) 19:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    Thank you for the explanation. Just to be clear, the lead was stable between 2020 and late summer this year, 2024, on the basis of the 2020 and 2023 discussions. It was the other editor - who appears to have contributed briefly to the 2020 discussion but under a different username - who intervened to make a change late this summer, without revisiting the talk page at all, and after I restored the status quo, has attempted to force this through today without discussion. While I realise I made one revert too many, his/her gaming 3RR to force through an edit that runs contrary to previous discussion, and citing a four year old comment as evidence of being willing to talk about it, was having a laugh, IMHO. MapReader (talk) 22:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    Like I said, this is best addressed at the policy level. Daniel Case (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:Stormy160 reported by User:Talthiel (Result: Page protected)

    Page: 2024 Wisconsin Senate election (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Stormy160 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:

    Comments:
    I have repeatedly tried to discuss it with the editor, posting a long response to each thing reverted in the article but to no avail, as the user read my response, disagreed, and then reverted back to their desired change, claiming I said something I did not. I have no idea hoe else to resolve this conflict because the table me and other editors built has had 0 issue until this one editor came in and started claiming issues existed with it (that don't exist by the way). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talthiel (talk • contribs) 15:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    Yes, that is edit-warring. PS - We should have a link to the consensus being mentioned. GoodDay (talk) 16:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
    This user will not engage at all. I gave examples of what I was talking about, only to be called “dense”. They clearly just want full control over the page, nobody is allowed to edit their previous work. So yes, I did try to explain the precedent. I engaged on the talk page to no avail, which of course the user did not mention in their report. Stormy160 (talk) 21:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:Thesanas reported by User:CNMall41 (Result: Page full-protected for three days)

    Page: Pooja Hegde (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Thesanas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 17:49, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "Restoring the last version by User:Charliehdb"
    2. 07:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1265915480 by CNMall41 (talk): WP:ONUS applies to those who adds contents. I only replaced with reliable sources. Please stop WP:EDITWAR here"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 06:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Pooja Hegde."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 06:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC) "/* GA article */"

    Comments:

    Additional warring is here and here. User erased previous warning from their talk page here and was warned numerous times about getting consensus on the talk page. Has been reverted by three different editors at this point but user still does not seem to get it. CNMall41 (talk) 00:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    I restored user:Charliehdb last edit . What is the mistake in restoring other users edits? I am here to expand and make this article with reliable sources. Why are you removing my edits with reliable sources and making this article with unreliable sources? Thesanas (talk) 02:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Pretty sure Charliehdb is a WP:MEAT. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Wouldn't surprise me but I am not sure I would get much reception at SPI at this point with as many filings I have done recently on Indian film related UPE, SOCKS, and MEAT.--CNMall41 (talk) 07:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    They obviously do not care about WP:ONUS and likely UPE based on the continued edit war. I will let them continue to bludgeon and just roll back once they are blocked. Not worth the stress of trying to clean up the page when they don't seem to want to work within a collaborative community. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Page protected in full for three days, since while the submitted diffs do not constitute a violation as there aren't enough, we clearly can't let this go on. With the allegations of socking and meating, this really should go to AN/I ... or SPI, CNMall's reservations notwithstanding. Daniel Case (talk) 18:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:Stevencocoboy reported by User:Fyunck(click) (Result: Declined)

    Page: United States men's national junior ice hockey team (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Stevencocoboy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 05:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "/* IIHF World Junior Championship */ Hide it first because WP:HOCKEY"
    2. 05:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "Please stop the edit war, I want to edit and update result only"
    3. 05:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "Why? we can update the result which the events are finish"
    4. 05:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "/* IIHF World Junior Championship */"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 05:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC) on User talk:Stevencocoboy "/* Respecting consensus of your fellow editors */ new section"

    Comments:

    Look at his person's talk page. They have been warned over and over and over. Just at US Figure Skating Template they must be 10x reverts. I didn't report that because he promised me on my talk page he would be better, but it hasn't stopped him. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    Sorry it's because I don't know a consensus in WP:HOCKEY. I'm not American and my english is poor. I don't know we can't update a result and we need until the event was completed. Also I need using some times to translate what is talking about. After I translate it, I'm stopped edit in the page. Thanks. Stevencocoboy (talk) 07:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Here's the thing... you have been warned of this many times on multiple subjects, and you've been editing here for 10 years now. I count that you have been warned 11x since September 2024... most of which you didn't answer on your talk page. In October you were told by an editor "Please ensure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges." On December 24 I told you to "Self-revert or I WILL report you, and you will get blocked" for 8 reverts of Template:U.S. Figure Skating Championships. The same day I told you "You are also dangerously close to being blocked for your edits at "U.S. Figure Skating Championships." Yesterday a third editor told you to stop vandalizing "United States men's national ice hockey team". You were told about edit warring and to read up on consensus by editors at WP:Hockey. And then again a warning for "United States men's national junior ice hockey team".
    This has gone on long enough. For your own good you need to be blocked a couple days to think about things and you really should be doing one edit and then move on to another topic. As soon as another editor reverts your new edit that should be a huge red ringing warning not to edit that page again until given the go-ahead by other editors on the talk page. This has to stop NOW before your privilege of editing here gets revoked. I was stern with you on your talk page about your 8 reverts, but you stopped and we came to a compromise, and I did not report you. Since then your talk page has been filled by five more minor and major warnings. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    I can promise stop editing about ice hockey pages in recent days and calm down more because I've make a controversial. I'm sorry again. Thanks. Stevencocoboy (talk) 08:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Declined with leave to re-report if reported user breaks his promise above. Daniel Case (talk) 18:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Thanks, that's good enough for me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    Thank you very much. Stevencocoboy (talk) 01:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:Atsee reported by User:Dora the Axe-plorer (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

    Page: Huaynaputina (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Atsee (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 16:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1266205860 by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk) don't revert for no reason. If you disagree with my reasons for making an edit, you need to explain why."
    2. Consecutive edits made from 15:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC) to 15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
      1. 15:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1266201041 by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) first one doesn't need to be a footnote; second is not necessary; third is not relevant; fourth doesn't even make sense."
      2. 15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1266205410 by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk) there is no citation where the fact tag has been placed. place the relevant citation there. that is all that needs doing."
    3. Consecutive edits made from 13:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC) to 13:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
      1. 13:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "removed a lot of footnotes which are redundant. there is no need for a definition of a term when the term is linked."
      2. 13:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "doesn't need a dictionary link"
      3. 13:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "/* Caldera collapse */"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 15:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "/* Your edits on Huaynaputina */ new section"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 15:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "/* Footnotes */ Reply"

    Comments:

    Discussion at Talk:Huaynaputina#Footnotes, user repeatedly deleting footnotes without a valid reason on a Featured Article Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 16:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    This user clearly wanted an edit war. Witness their utterly unhelpful edit summaries in their three reverts:
    There was no need to file this report. There is discussion on the talk page. The user evidently wanted an edit war, and evidently wanted to make a fuss about it. Atsee (talk) 16:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    It took you multiple reverts before you actually even replied to the talk discussion, even after explaining in the FA and your talk pages, you continued to insinuate you are in the right. While the discussion was active, after Mike Christie's reply, you continued your reverts. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 16:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
    I noticed the first revert didn't trigger the undo tag but the edit summary suggest a revert and subsequent changes before publishing. It would count to three reverts. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 16:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    User:36.228.143.128 reported by User:StephenMacky1 (Result: Declined)

    Page: Matriarchy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 36.228.143.128 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 13:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 10:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 22:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC) ""
    4. 22:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 13:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Matriarchy."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    IP has persistently inserted extraordinary claims and violated the three-revert rule. StephenMacky1 (talk) 16:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

    Declined as user has not edited since the last warning they got ten hours ago (of course, if they resume ...). I will leave a CTOPS notice on the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 19:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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