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== "Far-left" is not supported. ==
== ' 'Haaretz fiddled with Obama poll' '' ==


I've reverted . The two sources used to describe Haaretz as "far-left" were:
oh! Oh! with the poll? It believe that this strike against the reputation of the paper is news and important information that WP should carry. I think it belongs in this article, but not sure where or how. Any suggestions? ] (]) 04:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


1. {{Cite web |last=Author |first=Caroline Glick |date=2023-01-27 |title=The Israeli Left Begs the World To Protect Its Power |url=https://www.newsweek.com/israeli-left-begs-world-protect-its-power-opinion-1776673 |access-date=2023-11-20 |website=Newsweek |language=en}}
:Have you read ]? Maybe you should give it a try. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 05:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:That's an outrageous claim. I mean the advert on the JPost site that says you can learn Hebrew in 10 days. Hopefully it will be removed from Jpost’s online print edition archive and they'll rewrite the edition of the story that remains online so that it makes no reference to the claim. Other than that I didn't see anything noteworthy. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 07:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


2. {{Cite web |last=Morrissey |first=Ed |date=2023-10-10 |title="At first we were ecstatic": Gaza's FAFO moment and Iran's strategic miscalculation |url=https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/10/10/at-first-we-were-ecstatic-gazas-fafo-moment-and-irans-strategic-miscalculation-n583689 |access-date=2023-11-20 |website=hotair.com |language=en}}
⚫ == Founding ==


The first is an opinion piece by ], an Israeli conservative. The second is an editorial by ] on ], a conservative political blog. (It does not appear on the ] list.)
The intro says 1918, the summary 1919 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


, barely. For reference, other things Hot Air has called "far-left" include , , , , , and of course, . ]&#124;] 04:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
:It looks to me like it says 1918 in both places. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 21:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
: The far-right activist Glick calling Haaretz "far-left" would make a good political cartoon. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 08:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


== As to the last sentence on the first para ("It is known for its left-wing and liberal stances on domestic and foreign issues") ==
== Importance of newspaper? ==


As to the last sentence on the first para ("It is known for its left-wing and liberal stances on domestic and foreign issues"):I think that the word "liberal" should be removed for accuracy,and that the word "general" in between "its" and "left-wing" should be written in order to avoid incorrect inclusion (Sometimes right-wing or more "moderate" views are in place,at least until recently).
Readership declined but the newspaper is important? The circulation / readership figures are old. ] (]) 07:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


] (]) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
== Improving this article ==


⚫ == typo ==
How come this article is not allowed to be improved? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Please correct year of journalist's birth from 1040 to 1940 ] (]) 01:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
:Nobody is stopping you from improving the article. But if you vandalize it again, as you did and , you will be blocked. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 03:10, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
: Done, thanks for reporting it. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 03:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
:Mostly because the editors here are ''Arabs, Communists, Muslims, neo-Nazis, and other anti-Semites.'' <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 03:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)</small>


== "published and sold together with The New York Times"??? ==
I did not know that adding facts was vandalism. ] (]) 03:15, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
:You are adding tags without explaining why. You are required to justify tags here. You need to be able to demonstrate that the tags are valid by citing evidence from the article and reliable sources. Misplaced Pages has an article that explains what a ] is and a policy ] that explains when a piece of information is regarded as verifiable. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 05:24, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


I just inserted this request:
== CAMERA ==


<blockquote><nowiki> {{Clarify|text=The English edition is published and sold together with ''].''|date=November 2024}}
Could someone explain to why CAMERA's opinion on this topic is suitable for inclusion. Has it been published by a reliable third party RS in relation to the topic for instance? ] (]) 22:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
</nowiki></blockquote>
:Yes. Although I don't know much about CAMERA, ] is a notable source for information relating to media bias, and she's the author of the piece that's been cited in the article since May of 2010 without anyone objecting to it. I've supplemented what was there with a more definitive RS where Levin articulates some of her views vis-a-vis ''Haaretz'', since they're important in our context. CAMERA is a reliable source for Levin's opinion – she was or is the organization's executive director.—] (]) 10:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
::Fair enough, if the opinion of Levin is reported as relevant to the topic by an RS I have no complaints. ] (]) 12:02, 13 October 2012 (UTC)


* Does this mean when you purchase one you also get the other?
==Poll==
* Does this mean it is distributed by the same distributor?
There are lengthy, ongoing discussions regarding the poll at the ] section and subsequent sections. I suggest that planned additions to this article regarding the poll are coordinated with the discussions over there. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 10:34, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
* Does this mean some of the plants that print the New York Times also print Haaretz?
:Haaretz fiddles polls. As a matter of fact, even Haaretz published that statement. But this statement was repeatedly censored from ]. Such a disgusting anti-Israeli bias!--] (]) 10:40, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

::All material related to this poll is under discussion. All material has been kept out of articles while it is being discussed. Both sides in the discussion have accused each other of censorship. So, I suggest you self revert, join the discussion rather than trying to impose your will by force via edit warring which is rude, arrogant, and inconsistent with policy and guidelines. Also keep your personal opinions off the page. They don't matter and will make things worse. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 10:55, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Please clarify.
:::I am not interested on a discussion, which is in its root based on already proven mistake. Both sides (even the original publisher - Haaretz - see the sources) have acknowledged this was indeed a mistake. The article did not represent the poll, which is precisely what was heavily criticized and finally acknowledged by Haaretz. Do you or anyone else challenge these facts? The discussion you are suggesting (about the poll itself and not about its misinterpretation in Haaretz) is not substantially connected to this acknowledged criticism or to this already acknowledged mistake.--] (]) 11:19, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
---20:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC) ] (]) 20:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:: Not wishing to fork the discussion at the other talk page, there are specific problems with the text AsiBakshish wants to add. (1) It makes judgements in the voice of Misplaced Pages, such as "based on a misinterpretation of a poll" and "although it was incorrect". This is unacceptable under any circumstances. (2) It is dishonest: "Haaretz published a clarification stating, that the article did not accurately reflect the findings of the poll". As AsiBakshish knows perfectly well, the clarification refers only to the original headline of the article, not to its content. And, AsiBakshish, statements like "I am not interested on a discussion", apart from being bad English, are a fast-track to getting banned. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 11:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

:::1) - Can be easily resolved.
== newspaper of record ==
:::2) - Valid point. The addition should not be based on this clarification alone but on what other sources have to say. A single opinion piece is insufficient for such an addition and better sourcing should be provided. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']'''.''']'''</small> 11:36, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Although it is the 3rd most popular newspaper in Israel, the exposure is still low by only 5.4%.
The vast majority of Israelis do not read this newspaper. ] (]) 17:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Haaretz/Archive_4#Newspaper_of_record?_What? Discussed before. ] (]) 18:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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"Far-left" is not supported.

I've reverted this edit. The two sources used to describe Haaretz as "far-left" were:

1. Author, Caroline Glick (2023-01-27). "The Israeli Left Begs the World To Protect Its Power". Newsweek. Retrieved 2023-11-20. {{cite web}}: |last= has generic name (help)

2. Morrissey, Ed (2023-10-10). ""At first we were ecstatic": Gaza's FAFO moment and Iran's strategic miscalculation". hotair.com. Retrieved 2023-11-20.

The first is an opinion piece by Caroline Glick, an Israeli conservative. The second is an editorial by Ed Morrissey on Hot Air, a conservative political blog. (It does not appear on the WP:RS/PS list.)

AllSides rates Haaretz "lean left", barely. For reference, other things Hot Air has called "far-left" include The Squad, Ron Filipkowski, Media Matters, The Trevor Project and Planned Parenthood, Mayor Brandon Johnson, and of course, George Soros. grendel|khan 04:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

The far-right activist Glick calling Haaretz "far-left" would make a good political cartoon. Zero 08:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

As to the last sentence on the first para ("It is known for its left-wing and liberal stances on domestic and foreign issues")

As to the last sentence on the first para ("It is known for its left-wing and liberal stances on domestic and foreign issues"):I think that the word "liberal" should be removed for accuracy,and that the word "general" in between "its" and "left-wing" should be written in order to avoid incorrect inclusion (Sometimes right-wing or more "moderate" views are in place,at least until recently).

עמית לונן (talk) 13:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

typo

Please correct year of journalist's birth from 1040 to 1940 Leroyhobbes (talk) 01:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Done, thanks for reporting it. Zero 03:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

"published and sold together with The New York Times"???

I just inserted this request:

{{Clarify|text=The English edition is published and sold together with ''].''|date=November 2024}}

  • Does this mean when you purchase one you also get the other?
  • Does this mean it is distributed by the same distributor?
  • Does this mean some of the plants that print the New York Times also print Haaretz?

Please clarify. ---20:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC) CmdrDan (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

newspaper of record

Although it is the 3rd most popular newspaper in Israel, the exposure is still low by only 5.4%. The vast majority of Israelis do not read this newspaper. 2A06:C701:4F00:C100:F476:C2F9:5539:9075 (talk) 17:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Haaretz/Archive_4#Newspaper_of_record?_What? Discussed before. Selfstudier (talk) 18:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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