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== Evidence submission closed for ''DangerousPanda'' arbitration case == | |||
== Quick note == | |||
{{Archive-top|1=Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution ''in absentia'' is the lowest of the low. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)}} | |||
Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at ]). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance . Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at ]. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask ] what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, ] (]) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. ] (]) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
*Panda, I agree with Ed. ] (]) 06:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::: {{replyto|Drmies}} {{replyto|EdJohnston}} {{replyto|John Carter}} Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month ''before'' he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
**FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) ] (]) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
* Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent <s>hounding</s> pursuing you that you are too <s>nauseated</s> worn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history of <s>hounding</s> pursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
I apologize if I seem to be barking at you at ANI. It's not personal; I'm just frustrated. I fully appreciate your concerns and understand why you're raising them, but from my POV it's all already asked and answered. Thanks for reading the posting, and for responding. ] (]) 12:15, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
**Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a '''''contributor''''' in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a '''''free-rider''''', using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually '''''improving the encyclopedia;''''' if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.<p>One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of ''quid pro quo'' whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.<p>Certainly, what we should '''''not''''' be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When '''''real contributors''''' disagree with other real contributors, '''''those''''' are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when '''''free-riders''''' like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. ] (]) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
: No issues - hope you noted I'm not saying you're lazy, just that blocks are reaaaaallllyyy intended to be "last resort". Cheers (]''']''']) 15:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
**:Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("{{tq|they should be gotten rid of}}"), Mr. Big Stuff!? ] (]) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Yes. Thanks. I think we're both trying to get to the same place here. Let's see how it sorts out! ] (]) 15:46, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
***Re: "Mr. Big Stuff" Ouch, '''''that''''' hurt. What are you, 10? ] (]) 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for pushing through your initial skepticism on this. I'm going to be on the road for a few days and probably not commenting much. You seem to have matters well in hand however; good luck with however it sorts out. ] (]) 01:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
: I thought adoption and then mentoring was a swell idea. You might, however, want to take a look at Dave's recent (post-conditions) contribution history. ] (]) 18:39, 28 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:: *sigh* I kinda worked my ass off for that unblock. It's a shame to be forced to re-block. (]''']''']) 18:50, 28 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::I had slender, but real, hopes for it. My sympathies - ] (]) 18:53, 28 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Your Arb Case == | ||
Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still ''needed'' here. <span style="font-family: MV Boli;">]]</span> 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
I apologize for constantly adding Tyga or others to the associated acts section of the Nicki Minaj article. I just thought he would make a good addition to that section. I'll try to understand that the associated acts section of artists means a bit more than just working together. {{unsigned|Captainmad}} | |||
:Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them. | |||
:Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom. | |||
:Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. ] (]) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? ] (]) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Guinsberg is now socking == | |||
:Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```]<small>]</small> 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of '''choosing''' to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating ''until I'm back at home''? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually ''available'' with Misplaced Pages actually being ''accessible'' to me! <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi Bwilkins, | |||
::TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. ] (]) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
*DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:* Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, ] (]) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Happy Holidays! == | |||
I noticed you recently blocked Guinsberg for BLP violations. After you did so, he started edit-warring with IPs, and I thought you'd want to know. Please see ]. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 22:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! ] (] 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== deletion of D.V.S* (Derek VanScoten) == | |||
== Seasonal Greets! == | |||
hello can you please explain why my creation D.V.S* Derek VanScoten was deleeted? I used references and made sure it was very objective. I'd like to get it back online asap so please let me know. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:21, 29 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: Notability for musicians is very specific ... see ] for further details (]''']''']) 16:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
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The purpose of adminship is to help the editors edit by dealing performing certain technical tasks. As these tasks (blocking users, deleting pages, protecting pages) can damage Misplaced Pages if used inappropriately, we have ya'll go through an Rfa first. I'm reasonably confident you do most of these tasks just fine, with little notice or appreciation. | |||
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted: | |||
It appears from your contribution pattern that somewhere along the line you got the idea adminship is something else. It is '''not''' the purpose of adminship to teach users to fish, or how to be bureaucratically perfect. Obvious ] is obvious. The 500th editor to post on ANI without the required notice on the users' talk page, or on AN instead of ANI, or AN instead of AIV (etc) is not the previous 499. They are not the 501th who will undoubtedly do the same thing. We plaster the top of our noticeboards with fossilized walls 'o text and steadfastly resist any efforts to improve readability. (See ] and the header history). I'm well paid professionally because, in large part, I'm very good at reading directions (see ]). But a good population of the English speaking population just isn't. But we want, we need them to edit any anyway. (When I checked last week, there are a ''quarter million'' inclusions of the "unreferenced" template). We need every editor we can get, and we need to encourage them. | |||
{{ivmbox|1=1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, {{user|DangerousPanda}} is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful ].}} | |||
A little bit of teasing or facetiousness or whatever you want to call can be effective communication ''if and only if'' you have an existing with an individual. When said to a stranger, it's being a snarky asshole. Since your return to adminship, I've observed it repeatedly, with your premature dismissal of JohninDC (did you even look at the prior incidents to realize the editor is question had been blocked 24 hours?), the smart-ass "is this an announcement" comment to the two editors who -- OMG! posted an ANI request on AN, and more recently, the editor who realizes there's a problem but lacks the nuance to know the proper nuanced different between vandalism and trolling. The distinction between trolling and vandalism is really important -- why??? | |||
For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Please forget all the crap at the top of boards about the exact purpose of each one, and interpret each request simply as an ''editor looking for help.'' Is it okay to point out a more appropriate board, or ask/remind them to notify an editor? Of course it is, but ''gently'' please. | |||
: Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Merry Christmas! ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Note none of the above is intended to apply to frequent fliers on AN/ANI who repeat the same behavior over and over. Hammer those dweebs as hard as you want. But if you don't recognize the account name -- lots lots AGF, okay? | |||
*Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from ] - the latter being in accordance with ]. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. ] 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
I understand the frustration of seeing the same missteps day after day -- there are times I wanted to scream when I saw yet another "this editor removed my comment from my talk page!" WQA post. But I reminded myself they weren't all the other editors who had come before. And when it got really annoying, I took a month off. Or two, or three. Except for followup and explanations per ] you're never ''required'' to take action. If some dweebish misplaced post annoys you, please just ignore and let someone else deal with it rather than trying to teach angling to a user who hasn't asked for it. <small>]</small> 18:55, 29 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
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: Well, a couple of my most recent "teaching a man to fish ... rather than give him a fish" were both accounts that ''I know'' knew better. So, I take your point, and happily know I was correct in my statement (]''']''']) 15:25, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
**Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment , I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. ] (]) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== A big thank you and a question == | |||
::: (removed from inside archived area) {{replyto|John Carter}} I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until '''after''' they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::: You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::''Intent'' being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
* You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. ] (]) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ]] 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi BWilkins, thank you very much for the time and effort that you put into resolving my block issue. Am I allowed to remove the ugly sock-puppet banners on my user pages now, or will that get me into more trouble? ] (]) 18:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
: I would say that yes you can - I believe they are "suspected" sock tags. (]''']''']) 19:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Done it. Thanks again. ] (]) 20:03, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Huh? There's no way they should be removed. This editor was found to be abusing multiple accounts and there was never any movement to the contrary. What is the point of having rules here if an editor can break as many as he/she feels like and get away with it? There is no way this person should be allowed to edit – their first wish after being unblocked was to pretend that they were never caught socking, and we're supposed to think their attitude has changed? Where was the discussion that concluded that there was no sockpuppetry? Where did it say the unblocking would include a denial of sockpuppetry? I was under the impression that the unblocking would be ''despite'' the socking, not a declaration to the whole community that the SPI conclusion was wrong. ] (]) 22:57, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::: You either ] or you don't. The sock tags are still in the history of his talkpage/userpage, and the SPI page still exists. Even if he ''had'' been socking, we don't keep the badge of honour around if they are not repeating the behaviour. Blocks exist to protect the project, and prevent repeat behaviour - the assumption is that a lesson has been learned until proven otherwise (]''']''']) 09:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::That no lesson was learned is patently obvious since there was no admission of any guilt until it was spelled out to him/her what was required to secure an unblocking. Even then, there was still a flat refusal to admit to socking, something which '''all''' involved editors knew was happening. He/she basically got unblocked because he/she went on and on and on moaning until he/she got what he/she wanted, not because of an argument with any merit. ] (]) 18:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::: Again, start using your AGF or go away from this page. I did NOT personally unblock because of "moaning" - it never entered my mind. What you're saying above is about punishment: we don't do punishment, we do prevention, and there's a huge difference between them. (]''']''']) 18:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::AGF is apparently infinite for some, despite multiple accounts over a long period, and months if not years of disruption. You have your wish. ] (]) 18:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::: What? I've not done years of disruption, and neither have you ... AGF in this case (as is clear) was being directed at ''me'' because you were accusing me of kowtowing to whining, and AGF in you and the other editors who will step up in 2 seconds to let us know whenever EffWon screws up ... you spent a lot of time non-AGF'ing a whack of people above. (]''']''']) 08:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::That's not the case. I did not "accuse" you of anything, that's a strong word to use, and so is "kowtowing" – a word I didn't use myself. It certainly isn't a lack of good faith, more we just disagree about the unblocking – Eff Won put in several consecutive disingenuous unblock requests until he/she got what they wanted, unless there ''was'' an argument with merit that I missed. I blame Eff Won for that, not you. There's a huge difference there. Who else do you think I failed to AGF with, ignoring the multiple sockmaster for a moment? ] (]) 19:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent}}Bwilkins has been entrusted by the community to make certain decisions, and that includes the decision to unblock a user if he feels the editor is ready to discontinue past practices and contribute positively to the Encyclopedia. No lasting or significant harm will come to Misplaced Pages if he's mistaken, as the user can easily be reblocked. Bretonbanquet, per ], is entitled to make polite inquiries into Bwilkin's reasoning; they are not entitled to make accusations or repeatedly badger him. Bretonbanquet has been asked to go away from this page; I encourage them to do so. <small>]</small> 23:24, 1 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I had already left this page as I said ("You have your wish"), but Bwilkins addressed me again, so I replied. I'm happy not to return. No accusations were made, as I have explained in pretty clear detail, and I do not feel that this discussion constitutes "repeated badgering". Take a look at some of Eff Won's discussions for examples of such a practice. My beef is with that editor, nobody else, and I am slightly surprised that there should be '''any''' confusion about that. I trust there will be no further confusion. ] (]) 23:34, 1 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
*Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. ] | ] 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
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*Hi DP, I'm sorry to see that was how it went. ArbCom is a big black box to me, but for what little it's worth, I'm shocked and saddened. ] (]) 20:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Apologies - I saw earlier that this user had requested unblock, came back after breakfast and unblocked without seeing that in the meantime you had asked the COIQ questions. There's no doubt this account is here for promotional purposes, but I had earlier explained at some length what Misplaced Pages is ''not'' for, and a COIN entry at ] has brought several others to help keep an eye on the articles, so they will not be getting away with anything. Regards, ] (]) 09:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
: No prob - you (and others) are handling it. (]''']''']) 23:03, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
*DP, {{U|HJ Mitchell|Harry}} has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --] (]) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Can you take another look at the DC block extension discussion and maybe tweak the closing statement? I don't think anyone was arguing about the initial block, just the circumstances of the extension. <small>]</small> 22:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Hmm...you've seen Draco's comment, right? ''"The block was ridiculous to begin with"''... (]''']''']) 22:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Oh, I think I overlooked that one. Fair enough. <small>]</small> 23:01, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: No issues - it was indented, and hidden in an <s>unused lavatory</s> the complaints department ... (]''']''']) 23:03, 2 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Mr JKX == | |||
== Re creating page == | |||
Hello there. I noticed that you declined an unblock request from ]. Earlier I spotted them operating a new account under ]. They do not appear to be trying to hide the fact seeings as they have returned to articles edited by the previous account. Plus on the user pages you get the same introduction - "This is the page of MR JKX" and "this is the page of Mr QVC".] <small>]</small> 19:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
* Looks like a duck to me. Thanks for keeping an eye on it (]''']''']) 09:56, 4 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== ] == | |||
:I'd ] and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his ]. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
We have had some contact with this user, who is currently blocked for one month and whose unblock request you recently declined. My problem is that he has admitted that his account is compromised; it is, however, only by his sister (it's the one who claimed to have bought the account for a dollar) and he is obviously very young. As we both know a compromised account is normally indef-blocked. I am inclined to make an exception here, but would appreciate your thoughts?--<font color="Red">]</font><sup><font color="Black">]</font></sup> 22:04, 3 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Due to your ] you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet ], you can ] -- ] 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
: Sorry, but I don't believe a word of it. It sounds to me like one big lie ... just like the entire shambles of behaviour has been anyway. (]''']''']) 09:58, 4 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Stub barnstar userbox == | |||
::OK, I shall do nothing. Thank you for your thoughts. --<font color="Red">]</font><sup><font color="Black">]</font></sup> 22:32, 4 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the ]. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. ] (]) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Screwball23 == | |||
== Sorry == | |||
Was blocked by you a while back -- and has now appeared using an identifiable sock so he can be two people on each of two articles <g> I files at SPI but this is so blatant, it does not require any additional evidence at all AFAICT: | |||
Montreal, Mar 15. 2015 | |||
is by his sock on ] at 21:09 UTC ... and at 21:10 see where ] affixes his own sig <g> which is about as simple and direct an admission of socking as ever I have seen. The SPI was filed before this - the sock edits heavily on 2 articles - in direct accord with Screwball23's edits, and using ''the exact same language in the edit summaries''. The one minute delay means that he can not use the "public computer" excuse, either. Cheers. ] (]) 22:18, 3 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Both accounts indeffed. After reviewing the edits, timings, etc, I agree with the analysis you provide. As per Screwball's block log, future evasion/socks would lead to an indef. (]''']''']) 10:48, 4 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== The Admin's Barnstar == | |||
I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down. | |||
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Cheers | |||
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== ] == | |||
Hey, remember that ] for {{user5|Jimmy McDaniels}}? He's back as {{user5|104.12.136.213}} and violating the ban. ] (]) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. ] (] / ]) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman == | |||
Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per ]. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? ] <sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
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I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of ] and | |||
]. ] (]) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
"''If you erroneously added the sysop bit to my alternate account, you would immediately remove it. You have erroneously re-added the bit back to an account because you missed the "cloud", and since the "cloud" is a valid reason for not re-implementing the bit in these situations as per policy, then you have full authority to remove it.''" | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/MassMessage}} ] (]) 13:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
It's not particularly germane to the discussion at BN, which is why I came over here. Erroneously adding the bit to your alternate account isn't the same as erroneously adding the bit for a resysop. Presumably, the crat who added it to your alternate account would desysop your alternate account and then re-add it to your main account, so you would still have the bit on an account you control; there would be no actual removal of the permission. Another argument would be that there is no chance you would object to the removal of the bit from your alternate account and that therefore you have impliedly requested removal to correct the error. This is not the same as removing the bit from someone who reasonable minds would say presents a chance of not having impliedly consented to removal of the bit. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 13:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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: My point was actually based on accidental adding of the admin bit to my alternate account even while I have the admin bit on this account (let's leave my adminbot out of the picture). Me having multiple admin accounts would be wrong, and be reversed immediately. I personally believed that Nihonjoe f'ed up badly from a couple of angles (not angels!). Firstly ad most importantly I think RamblingMan was given crap recently for immediate re-sysop's when requested - the consensus seemed to be to allow more time for other Buros/admins to come forward to ensure there had not been a cloud. (]''']''']) 13:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::I thought about that aspect of it and from my reading, three other crats (Avi, TRM, and myself) had expressed agreement in favor of restoring the bit, so I find it hard to say Nihonjoe acted without giving time for other crats to review the matter. I think the problem here is that the Crats (at Arbcom's lead) have always defined "good standing" as a term of art with a very broad meaning that most people on the street would find implausible. Also, I think part of the problem here is that the community wants people to feel comfortable taking a break from being an admin so they don't burnout and therefore makes the restoration process based on their conduct prior to removal, so they won't be deterred from requesting removal by being afraid of having restoration denied for subsequent minor infractions. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 14:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | == ] == | ||
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Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm ] (]) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
* Greater Armenia - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-cBSdyVTYxbs8M%3A | |||
Hello, | |||
* Kurdistan - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=cia+kurdistan&imgrc=gSas0O3Q96I2hM%3A | |||
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== Official page / website == | |||
Sorry my page did not apply with guidelines, please could you userfy the page code in my user space. | |||
You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website." | |||
I would like the opportunity to carry out further work on this page in the future. ] (]) 17:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Three A9s == | |||
== Official page / website == | |||
I've restored three A9s you deleted - they weren't A9 as the artist had an article, and seem to have been tagged by a rogue bot. Reaper has mass rollbacked the edits on the main part of the articles, while I was trying to remember how to do it (and detagging some by hand...). The account has been blocked by Nytend as a suspected unauthorised bot. ] (]) 18:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Yeah, although I don't think the albums were worth articles, I stopped after a few ... thanks for the fix (]''']''']) 18:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::I quite agree about the articles - I can't see the point of these track-listimg tell you b***** all articles about every album (and even worse, single). Things like House of the Rising Sun, Revolver, and so on, yes. Mind you, I feel the same about pro footballers who are entitled to an article for one game at the right level, etc etc. ] (]) 18:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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;) Goodness knows why I or nobody else thought of it before. Thanks. ] (]) 08:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Probably because they were waiting for the original template creator to do it, and I was too busy off being someone else and not watching RFP/C? (]''']''']) 10:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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I did not consider ] about "having done research" as relating to ] whatsoever, based on the context. I still think she means the type of research we actually want - now that she understands ] (]''']''']) 17:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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How was there consensus for deletion? There was: | |||
* 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong | |||
* 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong | |||
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* 1 comment, 0 of which were strong | |||
It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus. | |||
By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. ] I have no ideas for what to put here. ] 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|The Nth User}} I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. ]] 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
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Hello. | |||
Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki. | |||
Respectfully. ] (]) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Evidence submission closed for DangerousPanda arbitration case
Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution in absentia is the lowest of the low. the panda ₯’ 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence/RFCU). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance here. Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask User:Callanecc what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. John Carter (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Panda, I agree with Ed. Drmies (talk) 06:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Drmies: @EdJohnston: @John Carter: Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month before he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) BMK (talk) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent
houndingpursuing you that you are toonauseatedworn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history ofhoundingpursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. Jehochman 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)- Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a contributor in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a free-rider, using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually improving the encyclopedia; if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.
One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of quid pro quo whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.
Certainly, what we should not be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When real contributors disagree with other real contributors, those are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when free-riders like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. BMK (talk) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("
they should be gotten rid of
"), Mr. Big Stuff!? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Re: "Mr. Big Stuff" Ouch, that hurt. What are you, 10? BMK (talk) 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("
- Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a contributor in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a free-rider, using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually improving the encyclopedia; if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.
Your Arb Case
Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still needed here. Dusti 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them.
- Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom.
- Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. John Carter (talk) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? GoodDay (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of choosing to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating until I'm back at home? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually available with Misplaced Pages actually being accessible to me! the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, PhilKnight (talk) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy Holidays!
Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! EdnaClyde (talk 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
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Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda closed
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:
1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, DangerousPanda (talk · contribs) is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.
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- Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. the panda ₯’ 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Merry Christmas! Lugnuts 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from 7SeriesBOT - the latter being in accordance with the bot policy. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. Acalamari 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment here, I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. John Carter (talk) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- (removed from inside archived area) @John Carter: I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until after they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) the panda ₯’ 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. Lugnuts 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate the panda ₯’ 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- Intent being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... Lugnuts 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate the panda ₯’ 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ekips39 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DP, I'm sorry to see that was how it went. ArbCom is a big black box to me, but for what little it's worth, I'm shocked and saddened. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- DP, Harry has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Nomination of Heather Morris (voice actress) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Heather Morris (voice actress) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Heather Morris (voice actress) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Re creating page
I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanoop robert (talk • contribs) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'd be bold and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his socks. Lugnuts 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Due to your conflict of interest you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet the minimum criteria for a stand alone article, you can request that someone make it for you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Stub barnstar userbox
Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the barnstar user boxes you made. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. Freikorp (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry
Montreal, Mar 15. 2015
Hi
I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down.
I'm doing so now.
Cheers
Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonbo0422 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Jason Leopold
Hey, remember that topic ban for Jimmy McDaniels (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? He's back as 104.12.136.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and violating the ban. Skyerise (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
WP:Missing Wikipedians
I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman
Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Silver Giorgio Armani dress of Cate Blanchett. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? Valoem 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Invitation
I'd like to invite you to join the WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards Dfrr (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC) |
Wikipedians by degree
Hi, Category:Wikipedians by degree is a container cat (subcats only). Please consider a more specific subcat if you wish to categorize User:DangerousPanda. Thanks, Slivicon (talk) 18:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:Gregaga
User:Gregaga, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Gregaga and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Gregaga during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Belated thanks
Hi, I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of Criticism of Nortel and the Nortel deleted wikiproject. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
ArbCom elections are now open!
Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Turkish Kurdistan
Hi, Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm Antmqr (talk) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Greater Armenia - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-cBSdyVTYxbs8M%3A
- Kurdistan - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=cia+kurdistan&imgrc=gSas0O3Q96I2hM%3A
Greyhound-Syfa listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Greyhound-Syfa. Since you had some involvement with the Greyhound-Syfa redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Aoidh (talk) 09:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Official page / website
You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website."
I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talk • contribs) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Official page / website
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talk • contribs) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Official page / website
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talk • contribs) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thefinalmiracle, DangerousPanda left Misplaced Pages two years ago. Could I be of any help to you? Zero 15:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Bots Newsletter, April 2017
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Nomination of Pocomail for deletion
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A barnstar for you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
Hi, In 2012 you tried to help me understand how Misplaced Pages works when I wanted to add a page for someone I felt was misrepresented in the Misplaced Pages pages. I've been away due to illness for sometime, but coming back I still wasn't clear. I have reviewed the notes you made for me at that time and also have had support from the WP community. I am going to keep adding pages when I can now, as am working with people who need the help (COI clearly declared!). I just wanted to say thank you for your patience and to let you know I appreciated the time you took to try to explain. I have only created one article so far, and it has needed help but the next one I have a better understanding I think, even though I think I may have moved it not reading the words tools for reviewers:) So sorry about that. But thanks again for your help. Ackee123 (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
About your deletion of 2012-13 U.S. winter storm season
How was there consensus for deletion? There was:
- 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong
- 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong
- 1 rename, 1 of which was strong
- 1 comment, 0 of which were strong
It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus. By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. The N User I have no ideas for what to put here. Care to differ or discuss? 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- @The Nth User: I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. SkyWarrior 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Unblock an
Template:Unblock an has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (/What I been doing) 19:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Marcos Caballero and Lelo Sejean
Hello. Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki. Respectfully. Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro, Dangerous Panda has not edited Misplaced Pages in over 5 years. You may want to create the articles in Draft space - Draft:Marcos Caballero and Draft:Lelo Sejean and go through the WP:AFC process, especially given one of them was deleted after a discussion. Ravensfire (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
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Nomination of Ontario Country Performer and Fan Association for deletion
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JayJay 02:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Draft: Vaibhav Maloo
Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. User:DangerousPanda — User :Nuttyprofessor2016
- (talk page stalker) @Nuttyprofessor2016: I don't have context for what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure you won't be getting a response from him. He's been off Misplaced Pages for 7 or 8 years. Toddst1 (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)