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Ceco31,

Please, comment on this page if you'd like 681 retained in the info box, it is not over yet.

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Turks in Bulgaria/Europe

The National Statistical Institute of Bulgaria clearly states the following

National Statistical Institute of Bulgaria (2011), 2011 Census (Final data) (PDF), National Statistical Institute of Bulgaria, p. 4

Турската етническа група е втората по численост - 588 318 лица. Те представляват 8.8% от населението.
The Turkish ethnic group is the second largest - 588,318 persons. They represent 8.8% of the population.

Turco85 (Talk) 12:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

You have not understood correctly. It is 8.8% of those that voluntarily declared their ethnic group, not of Bulgaria's population. I am beginning a long clarifying from here- Bulgaria's population is 7,364,570 as of the census see the final data (PDF), p. 3, yet some 680,000 people have not gave any answer at the question for ethnic group and therefore 6,680,980 is the figure from which the percentages of the ethnic groups are taken in the final data: according to the Statistical Institute's ethnic statistics here. 588,318 out of 6,680,980 is 8.81%, while 588,318 out of 7,364,570 is 7.99% (caluclated with percentage calculator, - {{citation}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)CS1 maint: year (link)). The quotation itself starts on this way:

Българската етническа група обхваща 5 664 624, или 84,8% от лицата, доброволно декларирали етническото си самоопределение.
Турската етническа група е втората по численост - 588 318 лица. Те представляват 8.8% от населението.
The Bulgarian ethnic group comprise 5 664 624, or 84,8% from the persons, voluntarily declared their ethnic affiliation.
The Turkish ethnic group is the second largest - 588,318 persons. They represent 8.8% of the population.

and as you see here in the statistics both 84.8 and 8.8 percentages are taken from one figure - not from Bulgaria's population, so as the current statement claims 8.8% from the Bulgaria's population it is misleading.--Ceco31 (talk) 19:07, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

That is not how we do things at wikipedia. We have to stick to what the sources say, not make our own interpretations out of it. The source says 8.8%, unless you can find official sources which states 8% your edit will be reverted.Turco85 (Talk) 22:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

You are misinterpreting the sources - it is from the persons voluntarily declared their ethnic group. It claims "The Bulgarian ethnic group comprise 5 664 624, or 84,8% from the persons, voluntarily declared their ethnic affiliation." and I can prove that both percentages of 84.8% of the Bulgarian ethnic group and 8.8% of the Turkish are from one figure, here proven by the Statistical Institute: here. See now from the source behind, not from my own interpretations, that 8.8% and 84.8%(the percentage of the Bulgarian ethnic group) are percentages from one figure, and remember again what was claimed for 84.8% "from the persons, voluntarily declared their ethnic affiliation". See in it also that the percentages are taken from the total of 6,680,980 and Bulgaria's population was 7,364,570 as of the census. --Ceco31 (talk) 19:26, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I am trying to compromise with you, but I don't see why you keep removing my edits when I am merely trying to improve your sentence structure. Your grammer is not the best.Turco85 (Talk) 16:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I understand the point you are trying to make now. Nonetheless, the sentence still needed a cleanup for clarity.Turco85 (Talk) 16:54, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Romanization of Bulgarian

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Please note that this is not a discussion about which system is better or worse: I like other systems better than the one you are using or the official one, but we have to be consistent throughout Misplaced Pages. I'd appreciate it if you go through the romanization changes you've made and revert them. Thanks!

Do let me know if you need help with anything else, I'd be happy to assist. Best, — Toдor Boжinov — 08:32, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Todor and thanks for the readiness to assist, I will seek you for help and opinions when I need. I myself will revert the changes I made on romanization if it need be according to the rules of Misplaced Pages. Just confirm shortly once again with "revert them" and I will revert them. Because I first want to ask you, as currently on the pages I made changes it conforms to the official system as on the identity cards by all odds except the emphasis in "a", and wouldn't be better to have the emphasis to distinguish "a" from "ъ" because they are diferent sounds in general and in the Misplaced Pages:IPA for Bulgarian and Macedonian and as this change from "a" to "ă" is not changing of letter of the official system, only adding a stress?--Ceco31 (talk) 09:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I realize why you made this change and I am also unhappy with the way the official system fails to distinguish between "а" and "ъ". There's not much we can do about it, though: the system is official and it has been intentionally designed without diacritics. So please revert these changes you have made. Of course, if you want to make sure the readers correctly understand the pronunciations of placenames, etc. (but not of "български" every time), you can always add an IPA pronunciation guide.

By the way, see here for my arguments as to why the passage you added to Musala should be removed. Best, — Toдor Boжinov — 10:45, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Ceco31, we need your help at the Bulgaria dispute. If you feel that 681 and 1185 have to be included, please post on the dispute page (Ximhua (talk) 13:35, 27 July 2012 (UTC))

Hi, Ximhua, chill out man, the truth is one, doesn't matter what Misplaced Pages says. Аnyway as we have embarked on with this, I expressed my support, the independence users cannot contradict 681 supported by the smarter than them experts, but they may invent a justification again. We will do that is within our reach, but if the mates Gligan and Apcbg for example participate in discussion would be better, the more cool users the better. Regards :D. --Ceco31 (talk) 22:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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I've submitted this matter to the mediation committee: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Bulgaria Please review! (Ximhua (talk) 15:49, 29 July 2012 (UTC))

Hi Ceco,

I am Espor and I am a new editor in wikipedia, who is interested in Bulgarian history. I invite you to the dispute on the infobox of the Bulgaria page. Currently I have noticed that the founding year of Bulgaria is missing there. I tried to revert it, however the page is now protected and can no longer be edited. If we convince the opponents that they are wrong for various of reasons, truth will be victorious. For now only Ximhua is participating in the talk. I am busy and cannot reply all the time to the nonsenses the opposite side. Therefore we need more defenders of the cause. I saw that you were involved in a previous dispute, it is time to renew this discussion and settle the account once for all. cheers.Espor (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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Bulgaria - Info Box - Request for Comment

Ceco31,

Please, comment on this page if you'd like 681 retained in the info box.

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Ximhua (talk) 02:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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Sergei Stanishev

The discussion is here. Bielle (talk) 19:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

A discussion has also been opened at Talk:Sergei Stanishev where your input would be useful if we are to avoid edit warring. Bielle (talk) 21:42, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources (not yellow newspapers or blogs) when writing for a living person - WP:BLP and WP:BLPGOSSIP , you are trying to claim that every single Bulgarian Prime Minister was Jewish and it looks like you are having something negative in mind with this?

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Well, to be precise, he doesn't claim that ALL prime-ministers have been Jews, for example he's trying to make Ivan Kostov a Gipsy -- again based on his own (Ceco's) hateful agenda, and no reliable sources whatsoever. He obviously enjoys vandalizing the articles about people he personally doesn't like, by inserting rumors propagated by the yellow press. I strongly suggest banning him indefinitely. 88.203.176.7 (talk) 05:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Images

I strongly advise you to revert these changes yourself, first because they're not "more significant" (whatever that means) and poorly illustrative of the purpose of each section, and second because such a massive change of images is not acceptable without having been discussed. - ☣Tourbillon 15:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Some are by far less significant, for ex. the Bulgarian squad for the 2010 winter games, it is outdated and Bulgaria have never performed well at the Winter Olympics to be one of three pics for her culture. Others are not more significant, but more appropriate, i.e. the Bulgarian men and women in the Demographics, but this may be only mine opinion. My question is do you oppose all of the changed images or some of them, if so could you replace only these that you disapprove? I don't know about you, but I personally prefer we not to start a new discussion again. Second which poorly illustrates the sections? I've carefully read the text and put the images next to text about them. There is also a text that I updated, for example the religious distribution according to the 2011 census as presented by CIA. I could revert my changes but it would be better if you change only the images that you dislike, not to undid the whole revision. So what would you say?--Ceco31 (talk) 15:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Could you please not argue ? It's not about who "likes" images and who doesn't, the entire edit is tendentious because of things like "Cyrillic script whose birthplace is Bulgaria" and "The Bulgarian church is the earliest church which used..." which are not globally significant yet stink of a tourist advertisement. The picture of the cathedral is probably one of the worst that could've been chosen, the treasure is vaguely representative Bulgarian culture unlike the rare printed book, and tarator is not even Bulgarian. There's enough issues making this article a battleground already, so once again - please, revert your edit, images are the last thing we need to argue about right now. - ☣Tourbillon 15:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Why not to argue, things here should be disputed to be adjusted. Now there are some inappropriaties. I don't say is about who likes, is about to choose the more appropriate for the article. This about the Cyrillic script is sourced in the text, about the church is also true, so these details are just of more significance there is nothing peacock with showing them. Such facts are highlited in other articles, so then most articles are tourist advertisement. The picture of the cathedral is the best that could've been chosen, this is the traditional religion in Bulgaria, the Sofia University is nothing unique. I am amazed for your statement about the treasure, it is unique dating to the 5 cent. BC and 24-karat at the same time, which picture would be better than it? If the tarator is not Bulgarian then what is it, are you aware what is its origin? Then can you define any dish as Bulgarian, if you can we can replace with picture with it? On that way none Bulgarian dish is Bulgarian then as most dishes are Ottoman and international, I did't found a Bulgarian dish on that criteria except Shopska salad but it is a version of the Greek salad. You only want to criticize mine images, but have you seen the negative in yours? There are some ridicilious points, nothing personal, don't want to offend you, for ex. as the point about the book instead the Map of the Cyrillic that originated in Bulgaria and this about the treasure. Finally, I don't want to be impudent and to push all my images without discussing and so please replace the images you want to replace and I will not edit-war prior to the discussion's end.--Ceco31 (talk) 16:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I can explain in detail why the ones you placed are inappropriate, but I am very unwilling to waste the little energy I have on this issue right now. Starting from the technical quality of the pictures to how suitable they would be for a Featured Article (I suppose you haven't read the points by reviewers). So what I propose is for you to simply revert your edit, and we can discuss placing different images once the current discussions are finished. Doing so will save a lot of bragging , and more editors will take part in the future discussion. - ☣Tourbillon 17:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

OK don't explain it, you are tired I see. I can't disagree that other editors should take part in the discussion, but as you I prefer it postponed for the future and to find a temporary solution here. As I corrected the religious distribution and I can not understand the point for some of the images, I propose the following: change the images you want to change with brief explanation in the edit summary, not in the discussion, and afterwards I will not revert or edit-war until our discussion ends and you will not give lengthy explanations on my talk page. --Ceco31 (talk) 18:15, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

That's just it, I'd change all the images (maybe except one), I just can't bother explaining why right now. Images were a significant issue during the last FA nomination and all of those you inserted both bring the article back where it was before the nomination, or clearly contradict some of the guidelines from the MoS on images. - ☣Tourbillon 07:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I am busy right now and I will respond after the weekend. During that time do what you wnt to do in the Bulgari article and we will discuss it afterwards if is necessary.--Ceco31 (talk) 10:35, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll revert your changes and explain in detail why I did it, though I won't be willing (or able to) go into that discussion as well. Feel free to comment, but I won't be quick on it. - ☣Tourbillon 18:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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You have not bothered to read the questions I raised several times on the talk page and on the edit summary. I am also not going to answer you then.--Ceco31 (talk) 16:12, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hello,

I noted, but a problem remains, first and most important - you can't claim that thet these scholars are independent, because you have not evidences for that, all they could be dependent of some organizations and implement directives against the party from there, which is evident from the same hostile attacks from them - Attack is "radical" nationalist, "ultra" nationalist and "anti" Roma and against all the peace and humnanity. It is not known from what underground organizations these authors depend, masons, gay clubs, etc. and is not known from what depends this one who wrote it and who is behind the one who wrote it, especially this frauds happen when it comes for parties. When you prove, that the sources you use are independent I will agree with you, but so far I disagree. Until we do not have sources from independent scholars, we should follow the self-view of the party, aren't we? The party deny e.g. - for xenophobia and anti-Roma and should be moved to paragraph controversy, second there are no reliable sources to say that it is closely related to the Bulgarian Church, this reamins an claim, and is not known from who depends this one who wrote it. I don't know whether there is consenus that Attack is an ultranationalist party and don't know what the term means too, but I will move some of the statements to Criticism because there is controversy for them. So, if you have time could you post citations for the so-called consesnsus that Attack is ultranationalist party and that Siderov is ultranationalist? Are these sources states that all its ideology is only ultranationalist, because besides nationalism it also has Socialism and etc. Thank you too, regards, --Ceco31 (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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February 2013

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Bulgarians, you may be blocked from editing. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Your recent editing on Bulgarians shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Jingiby (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

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You have been reported for your disruptive edit-warring at WP:AE. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:19, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Ceco31, please see EdJohnston's comment at the bottom of the AE request. I'd be grateful if you could respond to his suggestion. --Lord Roem ~ (talk) 00:00, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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We have already discussed this before, I suggest at least to move again your statements in another paragraph outside the introduction. All statements of the party leader against racism were deleted with the aim to define the party xenophobic. The statements of the party leader are contradicted by the slanders on first position in the intro, when the party clearly says that is against this. And now instead to show what the party claim on first prosition, on first position in the intro the article relies on a cheap propaganda of possibly corrupted sources, totally contradicting with what the party declares. Misplaced Pages only approves reliable statements and such minority views of unidentified authors and objects are definitely not for such a site and should be deleted immidiately! Yesterday Siderov declared: "I have always been against racism"?

The discussion is continued at Talk:Attack (political party). Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 19:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Please, see Talk:Attack (political party) and let's discuss it. Regards.

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Bulgarian parliamentary election, 2013

Please stop reinstating your edits to the article. They were reverted, and per WP:BRD, the onus is now on you to get consensus for their reinstatement. The material you are adding is poorly written (it is not formal English), it is unsourced, and you are adding stuff to the infobox which should not be in there (i.e. the number of votes received at the last election).

Can I also ask you not to make blind reverts - you reverted not only myself, but an editor who corrected a spelling mistake. Thanks Number 57 11:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I've been working to make this intro, so if they are poorly written can I ask you to correct them? I've been working hard to create this description so don't delete it if possible, please. I would appreciate this. Tell me what exactly else you dislike there and I'll remove it. Regards.

How about you tell me what information you want to include, and provide some sources, and I'll draft something? Number 57 12:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

The major events could be included, you can search in the net, but I can't provide you something right now, I gotta check some bsness.

May 2013

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Edit warring again

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At AE again

You're back at WP:AE. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC) Please, don't blindly revert my edits. If you think about it you will see that I possibly don't violate any policy but some other editors do. Tell me what wrong I have done?

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Re:Question

Hallo, and thanks for writing. No, this guideline applies only to articles dealing with living persons, since in that case one must protect them from false or unverifiable info. Moreover, if you put a tag , you should go to the talk page of the affected article and start a thread which explains why you think that the info that you tagged is dubious. Bye Alex2006 (talk) 11:09, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok I got it for dubious claim. But Where is said in articles about living people? as what I read it says just for living persons but doesnt clarify for which articles, and furhermoreto delete without discussion whether it is positive or negartive 8nfo so I thoughtI shoulddo it. thanksbye.

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Why was I immeduately blocked? I thought the topic ban expired. I will revert myself on thr topic edits. I am sorry please reconsider that block--Ceco31 (talk) 10:44, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I would like to ensure you that I was unaware and later confused if my topic ban had expired. I had been not editing for two years and before two days I started again without noticing or remembering the topic ban. So I please you to reconsider this ban due to the memory problems two years may affect. After edits on topic related articles I noticed on my talk page in addition to the three months ban - a topic ban. I was sure it had expired because I thought a block means that my account would be in fact blocked of editing certain articles related to Bulgaria, I was in fact able to press the "EDIT" button and save edits on Bulgaria topuc articles instead of showing me "VIEW SOURCE" button and this I was mislead by mine conclusions on this and because there has nowhere been any sign that I am topic blocked except on my talk page. Unfortunately when I translated the world idefeinite period to my language it meant that the block is still in force, so then I stopped editing topic related articles and asked Sandstein if the topic block is still in force or was it a block inflicted for three months. Instead of an answer I get blocked. I think this is fair because laws apply for everybody and I must be blocked, though only on theory but in practice it is not perfectly just because some users are unfairly more sanctioned than others, eg I was topic banned idefenitely at my first ban while others who editwar much often are given opportunities. Though I believe it would also be fair if I get my appeal approved and get unblocked because I was unaware of the ban - evidence of this is my question on Sandsteins talkapge. After questioning the user I stopped editing topic articles(actually an article) and havent violated the rule in more than one article. I believe three months is an unfair amount of time for violating the topic ban on just one article due to unawareness, and I please a second chance to be given to me. If you decline my appeal, I would be disappointed for that I abstained two years from editing by which I think I already waited the three months you are enforcing me now, and if so I would suggest if avilable a penalty not regarding time but something else would be better for me especially for small mistakes like this.

Decline reason:

Even if you were not topic-banned your conduct would have been problematic. You immediately edit-warred on multiple articles, and I can't find that just one of them is related to Bulgaria, either. You just had a chance not to edit-war and didn't use it. Huon (talk) 23:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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I recommend that this unblock request (or appeal, if copied to WP:AE) is declined. In the message above, Ceco31 was advised as follows: "You are indefinitely topic-banned (see WP:TBAN) from everything related to Bulgaria. (...) If the sanction includes a topic ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period (...)". This is unambiguous. By making ban-violating edits prior to asking for and receiving any required clarification, Ceco31 assumed the risk of being blocked for these edits. In addition, I believe that the editing history of Ceco31, including subsequent to the topic ban, is not such that an unblock would be beneficial to Misplaced Pages, what with them returning after two years only to resume edit-warring immediately.  Sandstein  13:33, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

So if I separately appeal for canceling the topic ban, will be the threemonth block cancelled if my appeal gevaccepted because I didnt violate any other rules I think? Its for two years, thats pretty enough for a lifetime. And should I copy this appeal here or at WP:AE?

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May I ask why are you so biased towards me? Is the appeal not well formed that I should correct or it something else? Should I first remove this appeal, edit it to get better and then post it? Anyway why I must be blocked forever? I am neither stronger than Misplaced Pages and may be reblcoked always and my edits reverted. I have to get an oppurtinty and it will show. How I could be more convincing? That is reality, I am not dangerous to Misplaced Pages because I am not stronger than it neither you can not predict the future of any of the users you unblock, you just give them opportunity to follow the rules. I was also a new user and did not know much of the rules here, why I was blocked for topic idefinetely for the first time? And if probably the topic ban get repealed would the threemonth ban be repealed together with the topic ban?Ceco31 (talk) 15:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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