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	== Help with infobox template creation ==

	I come here kind of converted (after I reverted you many times) and ask for your help in creating an infobox template. I managed to use an existing one in ] and got help for the pic cropping ;) Now I would like to have one for the Bach cantatas (about 200) and started, after the model choir, ]. One problem I see: the page name (example ]: ''Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes'', BWV 40) is not the wanted name, only the text portion of it, the BWV # should go separately. Where to place Johann Sebastian Bach? Please feel free to change and advise, perhaps right there, I'll watch, --] (]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
	:You have separate {{para\|name}} and {{para\|title}} parameters; is that deliberate, or is one redundant? {{para\|name}} will default to using the page's title, if you don't enter a value, but if you enter, say {{para\|name\|Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes}} that will display. Do all the cantatas have German names; and should we also include an English translation? Are there cantatas by other composers, for whom this infobox could also be used? I've moved the template to {{Tl\|Infobox Bach cantata}} and made some tweaks, and will do more once you've answer this. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
	::Thank you! (I didn't know enough to tell the difference between title and name, nor about the default, learning.) I thought about it some more and think we might expand it to Bach compositions in general, then we might use the BWV number for the title and have the (longish) German title in smaller print. I am not enthusiastic about a translation, because there are always several, none of them is a title, only attempts, not even the German ones are titles, they are known by the first line of text, - some make sense, others not. I also thought about more parameters like key, number of movements, number of chorales. Actually, then every chorale might get a year/poet/composer. The German WP has always the same picture of old Bach, but that is way too old for 95% of his compositions. I would rather use one for the first location of performance. - After polishing a bit more we should discuss it with project Classical, of course ;) --] (]) 22:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::I shall look forward to that. Are you happy to proceed with the changes you suggest, or do you need help from me? Shout if and when you do. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 22:21, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
	::::I will sing when I need help, more likely tomorrow. (watching here) - As I complete surprise, I heard ] yesterday! --] (]) 22:29, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

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	I changed a bit, started {{Tl\|Infobox Bach composition}}, and ], (keeping the other in case 2 are wanted). If "composition", the variables for voices would be optional. Assuming we wanted several variables for each chorale (title, poet, year, composer), how would that look? --] (]) 11:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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	I added "type", and followed the date example in BWV 36 and 152. Could you please start the documentation? It looks like it's there to stay ;) - Where can we define the abbreviations for scoring? At present they are in the ], linked for cantatas but not other works, --] (]) 09:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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	{{od}}Done. I've moved the scoring to the end, under a linked sub-heading. Note the markup in the example, which is different from that in the live article. Please copy it back there if or when you're happy with it. Do you think, for example, that <nowiki>{{abbr\|Cemb\|cembalo}}</nowiki>, which renders as {{abbr\|Cemb\|cembalo}}, would be better if it was entered as <nowiki>{{abbr\|Cemb\|harpsichord}}</nowiki> and rendered as {{abbr\|Cemb\|harpsichord}}? (You may get a pop-up "tool-tip", if you hover your mouse over those, depending on which browser you use). We could create a template for each, such as <nowiki>{{harpsichord}}</nowiki>, to make data entry more intuitive; but not all the desired names may be available.
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	Also, I note that you have "{{abbr\|A\|alto}}{{abbr\|T\|tenor}}{{abbr\|B\|bass}}" (no spaces) but "{{abbr\|S\|soprano}} {{abbr\|A\|alto}} {{abbr\|T\|tenor}} {{abbr\|B\|bass}}" (with spaces). Perhaps both should be rendered as a list, using {{Tl\|flatlist}}? For example:
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	and perhaps "2{{abbr\|Co\|corno}}" should be rendered as "2×{{abbr\|Co\|corno}}"?
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	Finally (for now!) can {{Tl\|Infobox Bach cantata}} be redirected to {{Tl\|Infobox Bach composition}}, or deleted? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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	:Thanks for your ideas! Beginning in the end: the questions (one or two templates, if one which name) should be answered by (slow) Classical music, let's perhaps redirect cantata for now. Its A T B for the soloists because they almost always sing one after the other, ] because they sing almost always together, both consistent with the infobox in German. SATB is so common an abbreviation that I would hesitate to spell it out. The abbr for instruments are not quite as common, but well known among musicians, - for the others: it's all there in prose in the article. Let's keep thinking. ] (]) 12:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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	::I'll do the redirect shortly. Abbreviations need to be marked up as shown, even if they are explained elsewhere in the article. You could use, say, <nowiki>{{abbr\|SATB\|soprano, alto, tenor and bass}}</nowiki>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::To write "soprano, alto, tenor and bass" is like writing "Doctor" instead of "Dr.", "International Business Machines" instead of "IBM", would you? SATB even has an article, --] (]) 12:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::::For the latter, probably not, as "IBM" is, I believe, now the formal name of the company. For "doctor", certainly - and that is far more widely understood by the general public than "SATB". If ] exists, then it should be a link in the infobox. <nowiki>]</nowiki> should do it; it renders as ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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	Thank you for starting the documentation. I suggest let's leave Cosima alone for now, more interested in ] ( today) - which made me add fields ;) --] (]) 11:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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	:Disappointing to see you reverted there. I've removed the colour; let me know if you prefer some other (pastel?), shade <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 23:08, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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	::I like this. No idea about the owner's preferences ;) - losing people is worse than a revert for lack of beauty, just happened again, - I am getting too used to it, screamed only the first time (top of my talk) --] (]) 23:18, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::Now the owner designed his own on Classical music. What would it mean, technically, to have occasion,date and location of first performance all three in one para? - I found it separate in de and fr. There are many works without knowledge of a first performance, but I would still like to mention a location for those. --] (]) 17:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::There are two issues; how the date is entered, and how it is displayed. It is important that data such as location and date of first performances are entered as separate parameters (in other words, that there is a high degree of '']''). How it is displayed is an aesthetic preference, and I have no strong view, not least because (unlike data granularity) changes can easily be applied later). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:29, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::How would a display of two data, entered separately but shown in one line, look like? --] (]) 19:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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	so you need to build in conditional statements. That's at the limit of my expertise. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 22:06, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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	::Makes me think we should leave it separate if possible ;) --] (]) 22:12, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
	::I made a few changes
	::*just Translation - below the title, the repetition seems redundant
	::*have field now which combine in one line date and location (both composed and performed)
	::*drop "first", open to list more than one performace, such as US premiere ;)
	::please check, I am new to this, applied only in my sandbox so far, but will make the round, and adjust the doc --] (]) 11:20, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::{{Diff\|Template:Infobox Bach composition\|531248847\|530933375\|not in your sandbox}}; but that looks fine. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::I changed the template itself, but applied the data changes only in my Bach sandbox (then), - now also in BWV 40 41 63, more to come. - I thought it would solve to list more than one performance, but realize: no. How would that work, to have more than one set of date & location? --] (]) 11:48, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	{{od}} Merge the parameters on one line, and enter thus:

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	:That would not work at present, performance is a combination of two data fields, - can you fix that? --] (]) 12:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	::Th only way to do that is to have {{para\|performance1}}, {{para\|date1}}, {{para\|performance2}}, {{para\|date2}}, {{para\|performance3}}, {{para\|date3}}, etc. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:21, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::That's what I saw coming, not too elegant. - Different idea: a template "event" instead of "Start date" that has the location as an additional parameter? Or is there something available already? Bach's works are probably not the only performances that might profit from such a thing? --] (]) 12:37, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::Like {{tl\|Timeline-event}}? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Like it, yes, but instead of the event it would be a location, and instead of dates on a timeline, it would be just dates. Example: ] was first performed on Christmas Day between 1713 and 1717 in Halle (we don't know exactly which year, nor the place), for sure in 1723 in Leipzig. --] (]) 13:03, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::I "forced" the second performance there, but it's not the most elegant way ;) --] (]) 13:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::::Though that looks OK, the metadata now says the piece was performed on 25 December 1713, in a location called "]? 25 December 1723 ]". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:01, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::That's what I called "not most elegant". Should we set up 3 performances, and whoever needs a fourth, may adjust? If yes, would you do that? - Different question: how to say that we are not sure about a date or a place? --] (]) 14:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::Sure; I'm a bit busy now (or should be!), but will get on it later. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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	I ran into a new question. There are groups of compositions handled in one article, I looked at Missa (Bach) first, but there will be harpsichord concertos etc.. Scoring can be named only generally, is different for the single works, - so is key. Can the appearance of the header "Scoring" be conditional, only if at least one of the three individual scoring fields is not empty? Could there be more than one infobox in an article, in Missa we might have 5 individual ones on top of the summary? --] (]) 18:05, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Aother of those cases : ], in six parts, each a different scoring, different day of first performance, --] (]) 23:01, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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			== Jasmine Bligh quote ==
	To simplify, I changed Scoring from header to data. How can that appear even if nothing is entered, to have the link to the abbreviations? --] (]) 20:18, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

	By ~~now,~~ I ~~changed~~ ~~that,~~ ~~please~~ ~~check~~ if the ~~"forced"~~ ~~display~~ is ~~acceptable~~, ~~example~~ ]. ~~Four~~ ~~more~~ ~~precise~~ ~~scoring,~~ I ~~suggest~~ to ~~have~~ ~~additional~~ ~~paras~~, ~~"solo_voice~~' ~~(if~~ ~~only~~ ~~one),~~ ~~"solo_instrument",~~ ~~"solo_instruments".~~ Or is ~~there~~ a ~~good~~ ~~reason~~ to ~~have~~ ~~"notable~~ ~~work(s)"?~~ ~~Wouldn't~~ ~~"work"~~ ~~mean~~ ~~the~~ ~~same,~~ ~~less~~ ~~ugly~~ ~~(borrowed~~ ~~word~~ ~~from~~ a ~~critique)~~? --] (]) 12:24, 7 January ~~2013~~ (UTC)		Hi there. You reverted my deletion from ]. In the Transdiffusion Broadcasting System source, I can see she says 'Good afternoon everybody. How are you? Do you remember me, Jasmine Bligh?', but where does she continue 'Well here we are after a lapse of nearly seven years ready to start again and of course we are all terribly excited and thrilled.'? ] (]) 12:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

	~~Sorry~~ ~~for~~ ~~lack~~ of ~~response;~~ I ~~haven't~~ ~~forgotten~~ ~~you,~~ ~~just~~ ~~busy IRL~~. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 00:09, 9 January ~~2013~~ (UTC)		:As I said in my edit summary; in the citation: . <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Books & Bytes – Issue 66 ==
	:no problem, no rush, --] (]) 00:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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	::BWV 40 just became a GA, thanks to the infobox ;) - Before copying more, I would like to see a solution to the multiple occurrences of a parameter with two data, such as in performance: "location" "date". One more question: if a date or place is not certain, is it enough to add a "?", or should it be somewhat more formal? --] (]) 22:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Where, if at all, would we include if it was Annual cycle I, II, III? A separate para seems awkward. - How could the location in the "years active" also be metadata, - similar question as "composed" and "performed", 2 fields connected, several occurences. - How can we say how many parts (if needed)? Some cantatas have two, Christmas oratorio 6, each part can have its number of movements, on top of the sum of all movements? That's more a question of logic than music ;) --] (]) 11:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
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	: For location with years active; consider using {{tl\|Timeline-event}}, which I've just updated for this purpose. For example, <nowiki>{{Timeline-event\|date={{Start date\|1723}}\|end_date={{End date\|1750}}\|location=Leipzig}}</nowiki> I'm pondering other issues. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
			Issue 66, November – December 2024

	::Taken to Bach! - something like that might work for "Notable work", giving title and location and/or earliest/latest date(s), whatever known, --] (]) 18:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
	::ps: BWV 105 added again, reverted again, but found a helper ;) - made a ] with 4 cantatas, all with an infobox ;) --] (]) 22:48, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
	::Had to remove 105 from the samples (again). - In {{tl\|start date}}, is there a way to have the date not split in two lines? --] (]) 08:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::Try <nowiki><nowrap>{{Timeline-event\|date={{Start date\|1723}}\|end_date={{End date\|1750}}\|location=Leipzig}}</nowrap></nowiki>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::in the template? --] (]) 11:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::In the data field of the infobox, in an article. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 11:40, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::::doesn't work for start date, didn't try timeline because that might make the box to broad, to have location AND date in one line, the example is ], also an example for 2 parts, --] (]) 11:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::I made some changes in the template. Try now <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::Helped for now, thank you! - What if there's no date for composition? --] (]) 13:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	{{od}}If there are such cases, we'd need to write more complex, condtional code. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:15, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	:or leave it - often we don't know. I try to keep things simple, --] (]) 13:27, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	::{{tps}} {{tlx\|start date}} just needs , which will also bring it in line with {{tlx\|end date}}. --] (]) 13:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::I've just spotted {{diff\|Template:Infobox Bach composition/doc\|prev\|533871194\|this}} - and it's now obvious why {{tlx\|start date}} wasn't working - there was a missing pipe. That is, instead of {{tlx\|Start date\|2=1723df=y}} (which displays as {{Start date\|1723df=y}} i.e. nothing at all), it should have been {{tlx\|Start date\|1723\|3=df=y}} (which displays as {{Start date\|1723\|df=y}}). Since there are neither day nor month, the {{para\|df\|y}} may be omitted, to give {{tlx\|Start date\|1723}}. --] (]) 18:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

	==== Parameters ====
	I tried to add a parameter for Cantata cycle, just in case it might be wanted. First problem: someow I lost the last one, Obbligato, in the process of renumbering and am blind for my mistake. Second: could that parameter be there, but not shown? Not to repeat to those who know that every chorale belongs to II, Leipzig before is I etc. Thirdly, if shown, can something like Cantata cycle be applied? To have two lines of label for one number seems awkward. Or should the information rather be added elsewhere? --] (]) 10:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	:{{Para\|cantata_cycle}} is working fine; when you update a /doc page you may need to purge it before you see the changes transcluded on the parent template page. You could use <nowiki>{{nowrap\|Cantata cycle}}</nowiki>, but why not just "Cycle"? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	::{{Para\|cantata_cycle}} is working fine, it's {{Para\|obbligato}} which is not. - Why not cycle: because the template is meant to be general for all compositions, and an editor of a keyboard work may have no idea what that parameter is about. (I don't trust them to actually read the doc, knowing how I work.) - I recommended an infobox in FAC Richard Wagner and a composition PR ;) --] (]) 13:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::I'm at a loss to understand why {{Para\|obbligato}} isn't showing; you might get help on ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::will look (yesterday I found a missing comma where another user had starred and found nothing, I hoped you would be the one this time) --] (]) 15:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::{{tps}} The {{para\|obbligato}} - is the problem that the parameter doesn't work when used in articles that use {{tlx\|Infobox Bach composition}}, or that it doesn't show on the doc page for that infobox? --] (]) 16:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::::Excellent question, it does appear in ]! (Missed that.) But not in the template doc. --] (]) 16:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::{{diff\|Template:Infobox Bach composition/doc\|prev\|533864943\|Fixed}} --] (]) 16:44, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::Doh! <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::::Thank you, - I said I was blind ;) --] (]) 17:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

	I added one more parameter, {{para\|known_as}}, for nick names, this time without problems ;) - I think the template is stable enough now to be inserted. I added accessibility to the goals of ]. Feel invited to become a member! (Infobox Wagner is started in ], comments welcome before the battle.) --] (]) 10:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
	:All good stuff. Thanks for letting me know. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

	=== More general ===

	Did you see my question on Classical about {{Tl\|Infobox musical composition}}? ] (]) 12:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:I've added {{para\|Key}}, {{para\|Movements}] and {{para\|Related}}. I'll happily do the rest, if you can be a little more specific. Do you want all the text and scoring parameters from {{tl\|Infobox Bach composition}}? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:32, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::Actually, we would need much more if we wanted to cover the instruments of a 20th century orchestra. One step after the other, I would say, and ask the project ;) --] (]) 12:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::Feel free to draw up a list once you've one that, and I'll implement it for you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:49, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::(ec) I started ], scoring could just say string orchestra (as here), wind quintet, large orchestra, piano trio, without specifying instruments for the moment. --] (]) 12:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::next ] (remember, written ]): I think room for a pic would be good, could be composer or score - or nothing, --] (]) 13:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::There's {{para\|Cover}} for images. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

	=== University president ===

	Which infobox do you recommend for ]? (birthday tomorrow, would be a nice gift) --] (]) 12:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:{{tl\|Infobox person}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::Anything more specific? --] (]) 12:24, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::No. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

	=== Composers ===
	Thanks, helped, - how about composers? --] (]) 12:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:{{tl\|Infobox person}} or {{tl\|Infobox musical artist}} (the latter particularly for performing composers, like Michael Nyman) . {{tl\|Infobox composer}} exits, but is a hamstrung version of the former, designed only to prevent its features being used, and with no benefits. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::I tried the performer on ], a start. I can see why the project isn't happy with the infobox ;) I don't need the heading "background" - what else? For a European person, I would prefer ddmmyyyy format for the birthday. I would like to mention where he studied, teachers, notable works. --] (]) 14:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::Some members of that project are not happy with any infobox. I've fixed the date display for you, using {{para\|df\|y}} in the date template. You can, of course, propose changing or removing the heading, on the infobox's talk page. Or just switch to {{tl\|Infobox person}}, which also has the additional fields you desire. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::::Thanks for help and precision ;) Good comment on Cosima! I will look at Person again, I must have missed parameters, --] (]) 14:49, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::::Specifically, {{para\|education}} and {{para\|alma_mata}}for studying. And thank you for your kind words; its a pleasure to work with you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::::::Shared pleasure! I found education and added works, including my ]. I miss - for a composer - publisher and label. Getting closer to presenting to the project ;) --] (]) 15:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

	I was challenged about Bach and thought about him ;) - He was active at distinct times in different locations, different types of works those locations. Is there a way to show that in an infobox? He's probably not the only one. - Cosima: of course all these FAs don't have an infobox because they are mostly composers, - what a surprise; --] (]) 20:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	:If Bach's periods of activity are distinct and named, you could have a {{para\|period}} parameter. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:44, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	::Not there yet in "person", right? any other, with example? --] (]) 20:55, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::Sorry; misunderstood. You could perhaps use Infobox person's {{para\|style}}, {{para\|movement}}, or {{para\|years_active}}, entering multiple values using {{Tl\|Plainlist}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	::::Let me understand: so far I avoided "style" as too narrow, "movement" showed as political, - I would like to list concertos in Köthen (certain time), cantatas in Leipzig (later), simple approach, --] (]) 21:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

	{{Infobox person
	\| name = JSB
	\| years_active = {{Plainlist\|
	* 1703–08 (Weimar, Arnstadt, Mühlhausen}
	* 1708–17 (Return to Weimar}
	* 1717–23 (Köthen)
	* 1723–50 (Leipzig)
	}}
	}}

	{{od}} Something like the adjacent, perhaps <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 21:22, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::::Looks good! Then perhaps add times/places to works for the connection? --] (]) 21:48, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	::::::Sure. I've done some work on ], BTW. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 22:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
	:::::::Seen ;) - could use a lot of work, many more compositions should be linked, today I found a cantata with the wrong BWV # ... - but I'm still working on a cantata for New Year's Day ;) - watch my ] for the composer, next year --] (]) 22:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

	I started the Master, in ], below the other, please have a look, --] (]) 23:25, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

	=== Redux ===

	Right, what still needs doing, and how can I help? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 17:52, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
	:I'll start a new section ;) --] (]) 13:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
	:Some bits from here:
	:* should we have alt text para for pic in "Bach composition"?
	:* could their be image along with cover as a para for a pic in "Musical composition"? - for so many compositions it would not be a cover
	:* can/should a parameter be specified but not shown, for example genre, redundant if there's type?

	:ps: project ] is missing its most important people as you may know, - you could easily become one of them and make a difference ;) --] (]) 21:38, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
	::thank you for ] ] --] (]) 08:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
	::What do you think of writing a QAI page on accessibility for beginners? --] (]) 14:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::I've already started drafting a page at ]; not about accessibility per se, but issues of technical robustness which address accessibility and other issues. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 10:49, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
	::::great! - ]? --] (]) 12:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

	Thanks for splitting the different numbers in ]: that results in an extra line. Could we have the same for the others? Or no line for both? --] (]) 10:32, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	:I'm not sure which numbers you mean: BWV or performance dates? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	::BWV (you didn't change the other) ;) - --] (]) 16:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	::: {{Diff\|Ich habe genug, BWV 8w2\|prev\|536058751\|Oh yes I did!}} ;-) I used {{Tl\|Plainlist}} for the BWV numbers; you can do the same, or switch to {{tl\|Flatlist}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 16:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::ok, I mean , it's flat now, result 3 lines, if I use plain I get an additional line for every additional number on top of that, which is worse, - ] has 5! - different question: if I use nowrap around a performance, it shows "nowrap" - instead of working, what did I overlook this time? --] (]) 17:19, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::Diff, please? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 17:35, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::: --] (]) 17:51, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::Should be <nowiki>{{nowrap\|{{Start date\|2012\|02\|01\|df=y}}}}</nowiki>; my bad. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:10, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::looks promising, thanks! is the leading zero for month and day wanted? - how about the other q? --] (]) 18:51, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::::Leading zeros remind the editors that there's not a missing "1" or "2". What have I missed? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:06, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

	The question about the many lines once you have a list of BWV numbers, including an empty one, vs. just one if it's one BWV number --] (]) 21:37, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

	== Richard Wagner ==

	] was born on 22 May 1813, a reason to celebrate. His article is up for FAC.
	* I suggested an infobox, in ], please look. How would I start a new line for the translation of a title?
	* I suggested template lang, and even "permitted" to add it to Wagner, - do terms get marked the first time or every time?
	* What I don't like in infobox person: Work(s), Spouse(s), these brackets. Could we have work or works, spouse or spouses, as we have page or pages in cite templates? --] (]) 13:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

	:I agree about brackets; that's a perennial discussion at ]. In a meeting; so will look at other issues later. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
	:Non-English text should be marked up with {{tl\|lang}} at each occurrence. You can use <nowiki><br /></nowiki> to create new lines. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:05, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
	::thanks, new lines done, more to come, I am sure. - In general: I read in the FAC about "not a FA requirement", - how can we influence the FA process to at least encourage accessibility, if not require it for new articles? Can you tell them specifically what to reach for? --] (]) 15:05, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
	:::I've tried, and will do again, to do so in small steps. The recent changes on headings was a good move. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 15:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

	Congratulations to your impressive milestone, --] (]) 15:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
	:Thank you. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 15:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
	=== Timeline ===

	I like the timeline concept in Wagner. How would that be applied to {{tl\|Infobox Bach composition}}, more than one entry possible for both "composed" and "performed"? --] (]) 11:33, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	:Do you have an example? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	::I use it in ], but it doesn't show right because the template expects date_composed and location_composed. I am not sure how to change the template. The equivalent field in {{tl\|Infobox person}} looks complicated ;) --] (]) 12:25, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::I have now 4 performances in ] which will be on the Main page tomorrow, please check. There is a "–" showing because of "location", I am not sure how to get rid of it, chaging the template, without creating a mess. The cantata will be on the Main page tomorrow, the other one a little later ;) --] (]) 17:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::That parameter is only set up for one performance; I'd just list the first. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 18:18, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::{{ec}} The problem here is that you're putting a timeline inside another timeline. {{tlx\|Infobox Bach composition}} expects two parameters, {{para\|date_performed}} and {{para\|location_performed}}, which are then fed into {{tlx\|Timeline-event}}. However, in ], you're leaving {{para\|location_performed}} blank but passing a plainlist (containing four {{tlx\|Timeline-event}}s) through {{para\|date_performed}}. If you want to show multiple performances, I think that you need a separate parameter which accepts ready-processed data, and which doesn't attempt to do further processing on it. --] (]) 18:20, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::::Thank you, both! I kept the template simple, please check, --] (]) 22:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

	=== Dates ===

	In {{tl\|start date}} and {{tl\|end date}}, I could imagine a parameter saying &nbsp or not, because sometimes I would want to force it, sometimes not. --] (]) 11:37, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	:You can use <nowiki><nowrap>{{Start date\|2012\|02\|01\|df=y}}</nowrap></nowiki>. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:15, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	::I thought of but would prefer to have an option --] (]) 12:42, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::Ah, yes. See ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

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	:I'm going to take it to DRV first. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 12:06, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
	:: I don't think that doing so while there still isn't a clear path to resolution is the best approach. Moreover, DRV is really only supposed to be for cases where the close cannot amicably be worked out with the closing admin. ] (]) 12:53, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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	Hi - I am very confused by your amendments to Tullow Oil. I had re-written the material using sources that do not require a subscription. I am not clear whether the problems were caused by problems in Ghana or Uganda or both. Are you able to access the Sunday Times and sort this out? Best wishes. ] (]) 23:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
	:I suggest you take this up with the editor whose content I re-added. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 23:35, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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	I wonder whether you are able to help on this.<br />
	For the first time I am trying to resolve a dispute with another editor by discussion, following the procedure recommended on the page, Dispute Resolution. To start this I posted on the other editor's talk page, explaining I wished to initiate a discussion, and he replied briefly on my talk page. The discussion is now likely to become quite detailed and extensive, so if we continue in this fragmented manner it will be difficult for anyone else to follow. Should we continue on a single talk page, e.g. mine, with each of us adding new posts (or editing the previous one) or should we transfer the discussion to the talk page of the material in dispute?
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	:Most editors prefer to concentrate discussion on one talk page; whether it's one or other of your talk pages, or that of the article concerned is less critical, but I suggest the latter is bast. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 13:32, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
	::Thanks.
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	:In the first case, generally, no. In the second, no; Misplaced Pages's mobile view displays images thus: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/Description_of_the_Western_Isles_of_Scotland <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

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Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
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Technical news

The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

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Miscellaneous

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Wikidata weekly summary #661

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-01-06. Missed the previous one? See issue #660

Discussions

New request for comments: Constraints for Germanies - Following from a property discussion on P17 (German non-states), this RfC aims to find consensus on how to apply constraints that exclude items of historical periods in German history.

Upcoming events

Workshop: Lexicography and linguistic sustainability - Mirandese documentation using Wikidata This Portuguese-language workshop takes place Thursday 16 January, 10:00 - 17:00, Room 208, 206 at the Faculty of Letters of the University of Porto.
Please submit your proposals for the Data Reuse Days online event until January 12th. See current proposals on the talk page and here's some ideas to inspire you: presentations/demos of tools using Wikidata's data (10mins Lightning Talk presentations), discussions and presentations connecting Wikidata editors with reusers and/or explanations and demos on how to use a specific part of the technical infrastructure to reuse Wikidata's data (APIs, dumps, etc.).
Talk to the Search Platform / Query Service Team --January 8, 2025. The Search Platform Team holds monthly meetings to discuss anything related to Wikimedia search, Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), Wikimedia Commons Query Service (WCQS), etc.! Time: 16:00-17:00 UTC / 08:00 PDT / 11:00 EDT / 17:00 CET
The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 17:00 UTC, 15th January 2025 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
Wiki Workshop 2025 Announcement and Call for Papers. Submission deadline: March 9, 2025 (23:59 AoE)

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Blogs: (fr) female authors with male pseudonyms, blog post by Le Deuxième Texte including SPARQL queries to find female authors with male pseudonyms.
Websites :Global Dementia and Risk Factors, website by 'Students at the Maastricht Science Programme', includes data visualizations of the prevalence and current treatments of dementia across the world. It utilises data extracted as SPARQL Endpoints from Wikidata.
Papers
- Ontology-grounded Automatic Knowledge Graph Construction by LLM under Wikidata schema - This paper proposes an ontology-driven approach to KG construction using LLMs where competency questions guide ontology creation and relation extraction, leveraging Wikidata for semantic consistency. A scalable pipeline minimizes human effort while producing high-quality, interpretable KGs interoperable with Wikidata for knowledge base expansion. By Xiaohan Feng, Xixin Wu & Helen Meng (2024).
- Knowledge Incorporated Image Question Answering Using Wikidata Repository - Proposes a Visual Question Answering (VQA) model that integrates external knowledge from Wikidata to address complex open-domain questions by combining image, question, and knowledge modalities. Evaluated on the VQAv2 dataset, the model outperforms prior state-of-the-art approaches, demonstrating improved reasoning and accuracy (Koshti et al., 2024).
Videos: (arabic) Part 6: SPARQL Demo Session: connecting external services - Sparql SERVICE clause gives access to additional data such as labels via wikibase:label, interaction with MediaWiki APIs using wikibase:mwapi, and integration of data from subgraphs (such as the main graph and the scholarly articles graph). Integration of data from external SPARQL endpoints such as DBpedia.

Tool of the week

Wikidata Entity Linker - is a Microsoft Edge browser extension that creates web links for matching inner HTML text based on a regex format of Q\d+ which is the format of a Wikidata Entity ID. (email)

Other Noteworthy Stuff

Vacancy: Research Software Engineer / Wikibase-Expert - The Technische Informationsbibliothek (TIB) located in Hannover has a research position open for someone interested in the deployment, administration and maintenance of open source knowledge management software such as Mediawiki, Wikibase and OpenRefine as part of the NFDI4Culture partnership within the OSL.
January 1, 2025, marked Public Domain Day, with hundreds of 1929 films entering the public domain. Sandra has shared helpful notes to assist in making these films discoverable via WikiFlix, by adding video files to Wikicommons and Wikidata. Join the effort!

Newest properties and property proposals to review

Newest General datatypes:
- bequest income (the sum a organisations receives from bequests/legacies in a timeframe)
- taxon known by this common name (taxon item of which this common name refers)
- homonymous taxon (taxon item of which the taxon name is an exact homonym)
- role named in credits as (use as qualifier to indicate how the object's role was named in the credits of its respective work)
- meeting of (subject is a meeting or session of this organization)
Newest External identifiers: PCGames.de product ID, PUG authority ID, Three Decks class ID, Vidas author ID, Usito ID, ZSL authority ID, Collectie Nederland ID, Hachette author ID, CamerounWeb person ID, Hindi Shabdamitra entry ID, OpenSSF Practices ID, Japanese Health Insurance System Facility ID, Centre d'Etudes Picasso ID, CUATM statistical code, CUATM unique identification code, JudaicaLink person (GND) ID, teams.by national team ID, Eyrolles author ID, Mémoire des avocats ID, BCU Kirundi-English Dictionary ID, Estonian–Latvian Dictionary ID, WHL player ID, Indo-European Lexicon ID, Battle.net game ID, Singapore Unique Entity Number, AniSearch character ID, Three Decks conflict ID, Berlinische Galerie object ID, ThePWHL.com player ID, Play:Right genre ID, Resistance in Belgium ID, Paris Match ID, Kyiv Independent topic, Newmark Albanian-English Dictionary ID, Wellcome Collection concept ID, Amsterdam Monumentenstad ID, VG247 game ID, DNCI label ID, National Football Teams.com stadium ID
New General datatypes property proposals to review:
- About box (Screenshot of the About Box of the respective software (contains important information such as authors, license, version number and year(s) and is included in almost every software))
- nonprofit tax status (country specific tax status of organisations like non-profits)
- nomenclatural type of (taxon item of which this item is the taxonomic type)
- World Heritage type (Propriety of World heritage site : the Type (Cultural, Natural, Mixed))
- DVD region code (DVD release is restricted to region code)
- number of shading units (Number of shading units in a graphics card.)
- Archaeological National Register code (identifier of elements of the National archaeological register of Moldova)
- presented works (works of art performed, displayed or presented at a given event)
- identifiant REGAFI ()
- Maximum beam energy (Maximum beam energy of a particle accelerator)
- Accused of (Crime or other misdeed a person has been accused of, but ''not proven or convicted'')
- hat gespendet (Amount of money donated to a person or organization)
- name starts with (The name that this qualifies, the full contents of which are unknown, is known to start with these characters.)
- духовный сан (formal styles of address used for members of the clergy)
- A2B2 user ID (User ID on a2b2.org)
New External identifier property proposals to review: Algeria Press Service tag ID (French), Algeria Press Service tag ID (English), Algeria Press Service tag ID (Arabic), Norsk oversettterleksikon ID, hockey1946.ru player id, footballdatabase.eu match ID, Kamus Pelajar Edisi Kedua ID, Lyricfind artist ID, HonestGamers game ID, identifiant MACM d'un artisite, Syrian Memory person ID, Identifiant d'un(e) auteurice sur le site Mille ans de littérature d'oc, Kamus Dewan Edisi Tiga, identifiant Registre national des gels, DOSBox Wiki, Identifiant Cimetières de France, Ech-Chaab tag ID, Lutris company ID, Shamela Algeria person ID, enterprise number (Germany), Ohio University ArchivesSpace Subject ID, Progetto Euploos ID, Nafziger Order of Battle ID, DataGov dataset, ERR keyword ID, Comprehensive Historical Dictionary of Ladino entry ID, Ohio University ArchivesSpace Agent ID, Russian Football National League player ID, Gaia ID, Inventory of Natural Heritage site ID, Inventory of Natural Heritage tree ID, Spanish-German Dictionary ID, UAF match ID, Identifiant d'un(e) journaliste sur Francetvinfo, Game Vortex software ID, identifiant Pappers d'un dirigeant, Database of Canada's Early Women Writers ID, Canadian Writing Research Collaboratory ID, Mishramilan catalog ID, SearchCulture.gr ID, Cinema Belgica venue ID, Cinema Belgica person ID, Cinema Belgica film ID, Cinema Belgica company ID, Cinema Belgica censorship ID, Archaeological Cadastre (Greece) ID, Hankook Ilbo tag ID, Rijksmuseum ID, SOIUSA code, myCast work ID, MetalTabs.com track ID, MUBI Festival ID, Beaux Arts ID, rutracker.org page ID, Park Merwestein Bomenwijzer ID, RPG Maker game ID, RateMyProfessors ID, PubMed author ID, BodyMeasurements.org ID, Hessian Biography person ID, Kvikmyndavefurinn, Kvikmyndavefurinn person ID, Bluepages article ID, Kvikmyndavefurinn company ID, Archaeological Cadastre (Greece) info ID, A Dictionary of Geology and Earth Sciences entry ID, Wikishia item ID, EHIS educational institution ID, Bertsolaritzaren Datu Basea ID, A Dictionary of Sociology entry ID

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Query examples:
Newest WikiProjects: French Scientific Prizes aims to list French-language awards and to ensure the mention of a source associated with each award.
Newest database reports: Items with "sport (P641)" only
Showcase Items: 2015 Iditarod Q19455277) - sled dog race
Showcase Lexemes: trekke (L478233) - Norwegian irregular verb "to pull", "to drag", or "to draw"

Development

The development team is just settling back in after the holidays, so there haven’t been any significant updates yet.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme above.
Govdirectory weekly focus country:
Summarize your WikiProject's ongoing activities in one or two sentences.
Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
Help write the next summary!

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Jasmine Bligh quote

Hi there. You reverted my deletion from BBC Television. In the Transdiffusion Broadcasting System source, I can see she says 'Good afternoon everybody. How are you? Do you remember me, Jasmine Bligh?', but where does she continue 'Well here we are after a lapse of nearly seven years ready to start again and of course we are all terribly excited and thrilled.'? Masato.harada (talk) 12:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

As I said in my edit summary; in the citation: . Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 66

The Misplaced Pages Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 66, November – December 2024

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This Month in GLAM: December 2024

This Month in GLAM – Volume XIV, Issue XII, December 2024
Headlines
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Wikidata weekly summary #662

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-01-13. Missed the previous one? See issue #661

Events

Upcoming events:
- The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 17:00 UTC, 15th January 2025 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
- Join the Wikidata Training Event 2025 organised by Wikimedia Botswana UG for Wikidata enthusiasts of all levels. Starts 18 Jan 10:00am CAT (UTC+2), registration required.

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Blogs
- Updates on the Wikimedian-in-Residence at the Biodiversity Heritage Library focusing on Structured Data on Commons and Wikidata
- Wikidata module for the Hidden Figures CURE - The newly published Wikidata module for the Hidden Figures CURE teaches undergraduates to use Wikidata for uncovering and highlighting the contributions of hidden figures in natural history, such as women, people of color, and Indigenous peoples.
- Memory of the World: Ways forward - Efforts to improve the representation of UNESCO's Memory of the World (MOW) international register on Wikidata include new articles, enhanced data quality, and training on creating structured data. Key contributions involve updating Misplaced Pages and Wikidata entries, addressing data inconsistencies, and expanding the visibility of MOW inscriptions across languages.
- Empowering Multilingual Knowledge: The Journey Behind the 1-Click-Info Extension Powered by Wikidata - Introduces the 1-Click Data extension for your browser. A project funded by the Arcadia grant through Wikimedia Deutschland and fiscally sponsored by the Dagbani Wikimedians user group.
- Public domain visibility on Wikidata (in Catalan). The article discusses how Wikidata is being used to enhance the visibility of public domain works by integrating copyright information and making it easily accessible.
Videos
- Tracking Looted Art with Graphs, Graphs and Networks in the Humanities 2022 Conference
- How Wikimedia Uses AI to Vectorize its Knowledge Base
Presentations: Wikibase e Wikidata per lo studio dell'epigrafia greca (in Italian, i.e. Wikibase and Wikidata for the study of Greek epigraphy), presentation at SAEG (Advanced Seminar of Greek Epigraphy) IX in Rome, 10 January 2025, by Pietro Ortimini, Anna Clara Maniero Azzolini, Epìdosis - slides

Tool of the week

Dungeon Of Knowledge - is a roguelike game with Items generated from Wikidata that lets you crawl through the Dungeon of Knowledge in a classic ASCII interface. (toot) (blog)

Other Noteworthy Stuff

Zita Ursula Zage has joined the Software Communication team (SCoT) at Wikimedia Deutschland as an intern until the end of June 2025. Welcome Zita!
VIAF (cf. Q54919 and P214) underwent a relevant change of interface on January 10; the way of visualizing clusters in JSON format has changed in comparison with present OCLC documentation and e.g. http://viaf.org/viaf/102333412/viaf.json doesn't work anymore; this broke most or all Wikidata gadgets using VIAF data; in the absence of official communications from OCLC, developers are trying to understand if the new VIAF interface is stable before changing their gadgets accordingly

Newest properties and property proposals to review

Newest General datatypes:
- bequest income (the sum a organisations receives from bequests/legacies in a timeframe)
- taxon known by this common name (taxon item of which this common name refers)
- homonymous taxon (taxon item of which the taxon name is an exact homonym)
- role named in credits as (use as qualifier to indicate how the object's role was named in the credits of its respective work)
- meeting of (subject is a meeting or session of this organization)
- organisation tax status (jurisdiction specific tax status of organisations like non-profits)
Newest External identifiers: Collectie Nederland ID, Hachette author ID, CamerounWeb person ID, Hindi Shabdamitra entry ID, OpenSSF Practices ID, Japanese Health Insurance System Facility ID, Centre d'Etudes Picasso ID, CUATM statistical code, CUATM unique identification code, JudaicaLink person (GND) ID, teams.by national team ID, Eyrolles author ID, Mémoire des avocats ID, BCU Kirundi-English Dictionary ID, Estonian–Latvian Dictionary ID, WHL player ID, Indo-European Lexicon ID, Battle.net game ID, Singapore Unique Entity Number, AniSearch character ID, Three Decks conflict ID, Berlinische Galerie object ID, ThePWHL.com player ID, Play:Right genre ID, Resistance in Belgium ID, Paris Match ID, Kyiv Independent topic, Newmark Albanian-English Dictionary ID, Wellcome Collection concept ID, Amsterdam Monumentenstad ID, VG247 game ID, DNCI label ID, National Football Teams.com stadium ID, Kamus Pelajar ID, Dictionary of Norwegian Translators ID, MACM artist ID, Lutris company ID, hockey1946.ru player ID, DOSBoxWiki article, NBA G League player ID, World Women's Snooker player ID, footballdatabase.eu match ID, GERS ID, Comprehensive Historical Dictionary of Ladino entry ID, SBOID, Game Vortex software ID, Syrian Memory Institution person ID, Mishramilan catalog ID, myCast work ID, Hessian Biography person (GND) ID, Beaux-Arts ID, Gaia ID
New General datatypes property proposals to review:
- About box (Screenshot of the About Box of the respective software (contains important information such as authors, license, version number and year(s) and is included in almost every software))
- nomenclatural type of (taxon item of which this item is the taxonomic type (name-bearing type), e.g. the family for which this genus is the type, the genus for which this species is the type, the taxon for which this type specimen is the type, ect...)
- World Heritage type (Propriety of World heritage site : the Type (Cultural, Natural, Mixed))
- DVD region code (DVD release is restricted to region code)
- number of shading units (number of shading units in a graphics processing unit)
- Archaeological National Register code (identifier of elements of the National archaeological register of Moldova)
- presented works (works of art performed, displayed or presented at a given event)
- identifiant REGAFI ()
- Maximum beam energy (Maximum beam energy of a particle accelerator)
- Accused of (Crime or other misdeed a person has been accused of, but ''not proven or convicted'')
- hat gespendet (Amount of money donated to a person or organization)
- name starts with (The name that this qualifies, the full contents of which are unknown, is known to start with these characters.)
- духовный сан (formal styles of address used for members of the clergy)
- A2B2 user ID (User ID on a2b2.org)
- Source language (headword languge of dictionary)
- Entry height (Height of the entrance above ground level for boarding public transport vehicles.)
- location code (the location code of the location item. Should be used with qualifier property {{Q|P459}} to specify which location code system being used.)
- DIF historia player ID (Identifier for a sportsperson connected to Djurgårdens IF on difhistoria.se (official site))
- number of texture mapping units (number of texture mapping units in a graphics processing unit)
- number of render output units (number of render output units in a graphics processing unit)
- number of ray tracing cores (number of ray tracing cores in a graphics processing unit)
New External identifier property proposals to review: Algeria Press Service tag ID (French), Algeria Press Service tag ID (English), Algeria Press Service tag ID (Arabic), Lyricfind artist ID, HonestGamers game ID, Identifiant d'un(e) auteurice sur le site Mille ans de littérature d'oc, Kamus Dewan Edisi Tiga, identifiant Registre national des gels, Identifiant Cimetières de France, Ech-Chaab tag ID, Shamela Algeria person ID, enterprise number (Germany), Ohio University ArchivesSpace Subject ID, Progetto Euploos ID, Nafziger Order of Battle ID, DataGov dataset, ERR keyword ID, Ohio University ArchivesSpace Agent ID, Russian Football National League player ID, Inventory of Natural Heritage site ID, Inventory of Natural Heritage tree ID, Spanish-German Dictionary ID, UAF match ID, Identifiant d'un(e) journaliste sur Francetvinfo, identifiant Pappers d'un dirigeant, Database of Canada's Early Women Writers ID, Canadian Writing Research Collaboratory ID, SearchCulture.gr ID, Cinema Belgica venue ID, Cinema Belgica person ID, Cinema Belgica film ID, Cinema Belgica company ID, Cinema Belgica censorship ID, Archaeological Cadastre (Greece) ID, Hankook Ilbo tag ID, Rijksmuseum ID, SOIUSA code, MetalTabs.com track ID, MUBI Festival ID, rutracker.org page ID, Park Merwestein Bomenwijzer ID, RPG Maker game ID, RateMyProfessors ID, PubMed author ID, BodyMeasurements.org ID, Kvikmyndavefurinn, Kvikmyndavefurinn person ID, Bluepages article ID, Kvikmyndavefurinn company ID, Archaeological Cadastre (Greece) info ID, A Dictionary of Geology and Earth Sciences entry ID, Wikishia item ID, EHIS educational institution ID, Bertsolaritzaren Datu Basea ID, A Dictionary of Sociology entry ID, A Dictionary of Cultural Anthropology entry ID, A Dictionary of Geography entry ID, DGLAi ID, Jeune Afrique person ID, norskeflyplasser.no-ID, taz topic ID, Euronews topic ID (English), Euronews topic ID (French), Euronews topic ID (Spanish), Euronews topic ID (Arabic), Roman Inscriptions of Britain Online ID, Unine thesis id, Enpedia ID, Dizionario Biografico della Calabria Contemporanea ID, Bahamut Animation Crazy Serial Number, Finnish Olympic Committee ID, Team Norway profile ID (new), NOC of Belarus champion ID (new), JOC profile ID (new), Répertoire du patrimoine bâti de Québec

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Query examples:
- Search for Items where description begins with capitalised letters, filter by language, country of citizenship and occupation
- Wikidata Items using the 'smells of' property
Newest WikiProjects: Writing Systems aims to standardize and enhance Misplaced Pages's coverage of writing systems and related subjects.
Newest database reports: Some statistics about sitelinks
Showcase Items: The Night Watch (Q219831) - 1642 painting by Rembrandt
Showcase Lexemes: дополнение (L107276) - Rusian noun (dopólnenie) that can mean "addition", "supplement" or an "an object"

Development

Wikidata Query Service UI: We fixed a long-standing issue with missing edge labels in graph visualisations (phab:T317702)
Wikibase REST API: We implemented a proof of concept for a search endpoint you can try out.
EntitySchemas: We’re working on language fallback for the heading on EntitySchema pages (phab:T228423)
Language codes: We cleaned up language codes in WikibaseLexeme after moving some of them to CLDR (phab:T352922)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme above.
Govdirectory weekly focus country: Greenland
Summarize your WikiProject's ongoing activities in one or two sentences.
Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2025-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

The Single User Login system is being updated over the next few months. This is the system which allows users to fill out the login form on one Wikimedia site and get logged in on all others at the same time. It needs to be updated because of the ways that browsers are increasingly restricting cross-domain cookies. To accommodate these restrictions, login and account creation pages will move to a central domain, but it will still appear to the user as if they are on the originating wiki. The updated code will be enabled this week for users on test wikis. This change is planned to roll out to all users during February and March. See the SUL3 project page for more details and a timeline.

Updates for editors

On wikis with PageAssessments installed, you can now filter search results to pages in a given WikiProject by using the inproject: keyword. (These wikis: Arabic Misplaced Pages, English Misplaced Pages, English Wikivoyage, French Misplaced Pages, Hungarian Misplaced Pages, Nepali Misplaced Pages, Turkish Misplaced Pages, Chinese Misplaced Pages)
One new wiki has been created: a Misplaced Pages in Tigre (w:tig:)
View all 35 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a bug with updating a user's edit-count after making a rollback edit, which is now fixed.

Updates for technical contributors

Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. Starting the week of January 13, we will begin rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints for all wiki projects. This change was previously available on testwiki and should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints may raise issues directly to the MediaWiki Interfaces Team in Phabricator if they arise.
Toolforge tool maintainers can now share their feedback on Toolforge UI, an initiative to provide a web platform that allows creating and managing Toolforge tools through a graphic interface, in addition to existing command-line workflows. This project aims to streamline active maintainers’ tasks, as well as make registration and deployment processes more accessible for new tool creators. The initiative is still at a very early stage, and the Cloud Services team is in the process of collecting feedback from the Toolforge community to help shape the solution to their needs. Read more and share your thoughts about Toolforge UI.
For tool and library developers who use the OAuth system: The identity endpoint used for OAuth 1 and OAuth 2 returned a JSON object with an integer in its sub field, which was incorrect (the field must always be a string). This has been fixed; the fix will be deployed to Wikimedia wikis on the week of January 13.
Many wikis currently use Cite CSS to render custom footnote markers in Parsoid output. Starting January 20 these rules will be disabled, but the developers ask you to not clean up your MediaWiki:Common.css until February 20 to avoid issues during the migration. Your wikis might experience some small changes to footnote markers in Visual Editor and when using experimental Parsoid read mode, but if there are changes these are expected to bring the rendering in line with the legacy parser output.

Meetings and events

The next meeting in the series of Wikimedia Foundation Community Conversations with the Wikimedia Commons community will take place on January 15 at 8:00 UTC and at 16:00 UTC. The topic of this call is defining the priorities in tool investment for Commons. Contributors from all wikis, especially users who are maintaining tools for Commons, are welcome to attend.

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