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Hello King of Hearts, I'm the same user being discussed . For now I have to use a proxy to post because as you no doubt noticed in the AN thread, Future Perfect disabled both posting and registration from my regular IP range.
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The AN thread where you commented has had no activity for almost two days, and it will soon be archived by a bot if no one else says anything. Two other uninvolved people, Kyohyi and BuickCenturyDriver, also said in it that the block should be modified so I can register, but their comments are hard to notice because they're buried in all the comments from the involved editors. Can you do anything to help this thread reach a conclusion before it's archived? ] (]) 02:53, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
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The thread just was without anyone closing it or making a decision. As an admin, can you at least tell me what the status of my block means? The blocking admin that the purpose of the block was to make me register, but he also disabled registration from my IP range, and he never responded to any of the queries about why in the AN thread and his user talk. ] (]) 17:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
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== Administrators' newsletter – December 2024 ==
:Letting it go stale is of course no way to handle an unblock request. Therefore I have reduced it to a soft block as I suggested. You still can't directly create an account, but you can visit http://toolserver.org/~acc/ to request that one be created for you. Once that is done, simply log in and you will be able to edit. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 21:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


] from the past month (November 2024).
::Hello, it's me again. I asked for an account on that page a few days ago, but never received a password in my email. Maybe requests on that page are like AN threads, and sometimes go "stale" without anyone acting on them.


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::I was wondering something. Now that registration is disabled from my normal IP range, but I'll be able to edit from it after I have an account, it might be possible for me to register while using a proxy, and then edit normally after that. Is that allowed? I would rather get someone to make an account for me as you suggested, but that seems to not work. ] (]) 01:36, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


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:::I am currently handling your request for an account. There is presently a backlog of requests, hence the delay in dealing with yours. You will receive an email response shortly. Kind regards ] ] 12:27, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
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King of Hearts, what do you suggest I should do if ACC declines my request for an account? They haven't acted on it either way yet, but I just learned they might decline it. You and Future Perfect at Sunrise both told me to register an account, but the way you said I should do that might not be possible. ] (]) 00:19, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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:Why would they? Give it a few days and wait and see. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 01:41, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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::Pol430 told me because Future Perfect at Sunrise blocked my IP range, he had to defer my request to a Check User. Two days ago he told me a Check User was looking at my request, but it might be declined because there was something wrong with it, but he couldn't tell me what, and if it's declined I would not receive any further communication. He also told me there is nothing else he can do for me. I've heard nothing else since then, so I think it either was declined or went stale.
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::I'm still wondering if I should use a proxy to register an account, and then edit from my normal IP range after that. I don't know whether that would be block evasion or not, because nobody has told me not to register. Future Perfect at Sunrise told me TO register an account, although his block prevents me doing that unless I use a proxy. He refused to answer questions about that inconsistency any of the places other people asked him about it, so I don't know whether I should follow his instructions. ] (]) 20:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::It wouldn't be considered block evasion; you, the person, (as opposed to your IP) have to be blocked for it to be considered block evasion. However, it is considered a violation of the "no open proxies" policy. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 20:24, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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::::There is one other thing you should know. In December, there was an arbitration about Future Perfect at Sunrise blocking another editor without a good reason. In that request one of the arbitrators, Sir Fozzie, told him to make no more admin actions in relation to people participating in race and intelligence articles "or the next step WILL be to hand out sanctions." His block of me while I was participating in those articles was doing the same thing Sir Fozzie told him not to do, so I think now he should be prohibited from using his admin powers in relation to that topic anymore. I would be more comfortable registering if I could know he can't just block my account right away. But I don't know what I'm supposed to do to make the arbitrators follow through with what they said. What do you think I should do? ] (]) 20:42, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::::Just wait. Maybe the request will go through after all, and we won't be needing to have this discussion. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 21:40, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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::::::I've heard nothing at all from ACC for a week now. How long do you think I need to wait? If my request were going to go through, I think it would have by now. I'd like to try something else now, if you have any idea about what. ] (]) 13:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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:Sorry I wasn't able to respond as quickly to your request. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 21:26, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== On checkuser blocks. ==

Hey KoH.

I've been looking at some of your unblock actions, and I have to say I'm quite a bit concerned that you would change block settings for explicitly marked {{tl|checkuserblock}}s. , for instance, seems ''really'' hard for me to explain away as error and I was hoping you had a very good reason you could share? &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 22:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

:Replied. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 22:40, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

== Reopening of discussion that you closed ==

It's unfair that after you closed down ], the same people have opened a new campaign ]. Apparent female editor Tristan made an easily-verifiable claim of stalking when she and elvenscout had a mutual interaction ban, but she was given a one-sided interaction ban plus a topic ban. ] (]) 22:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
*It would be appreciated if you would close the discussion ''']''' and note that it was just a reopening of the ]. ] (]) 13:31, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

==Talkback==
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== 1948 Arab–Israeli War ==

Why is this fully protected indefinitely? That's an innapropriate protection. Was there a discussion on this? I'm not aware of the full history so it might help to explain to me what's going on.—] ]<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online</sub> 13:40, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
:The page is under ArbCom sanctions, and there are autoconfirmed sockpuppets on the page which we need some way to keep out. See the ] that led to my protection of the page using PC2. However, Fluffernutter removed the PC2 protection, under the opinion that lack of consensus to use PC2 in general was tantamount to consensus to prohibit PC2, even if local consensus supported its use. I didn't want to undo this action, so I restored the full protection, the second-choice remedy to PC2. Feel free to propose unprotecting it on the talk page. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 22:22, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

==Infobox photo consensus discussion==
Hi. Can you offer your opinion on which photo is more appropriate for the Infobox in the ] article in ]? You don't need to know anything about Allie; I'm contacting you because you've worked on matters pertaining to photography. I tried contacting lots of editors who work on comics-related articles, but every time I do so, we wind up with the sentiments split down the middle, and no clear consensus. I'm thinking perhaps that people who work on matters dealing with photography might be able to offer viewpoints that yield a consensus. Thank you. ] (]) 15:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

== Plcoopr ==

I just wanted to thank you f0r hearing my case...If feels good to be back on the good side of the law...
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:You're welcome. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 22:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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== Anthony Ausgang undeletion ==

Hi King of Hearts, I wrote an article for Anthony Ausgang, but discovered that you deleted a ] in 2009. I've been following the lowbrow art scene in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York for 20 years and Ausgang definitely has notability, and my articles is sourced and referenced. Recently Ausgang was written up in after the department store Rinascente commissioned artworks for their Christmas window. He received a in 2011. I have many other references and citations. I was shocked to discover there's no page for him, with all the available information about him and all the major organizations that have commissioned his works, plus he is included in several books. Of course, I haven't seen the original article and maybe it just needed to be cleaned up. Please undelete so I can edit, or I will open another deletion review. ] (]) 05:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:You may open a deletion review if you wish. (The more eyes to review this, the better.) -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 23:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== Unblock of 131.247.0.0/16 ==
Could you please expand upon your unblock reasoning? This block was placed following a discussion on WP:AN/I (]) in response to years of disruption. I have been in direct contact with the network admins at USF in charge of this range and was dismayed to see the block was reversed without the action being noted anywhere on-Wiki that I am able to find. Please note in the discussion, ] reviewed checkuser information and even recommended a hardblock should disruption continue. I would like to reinstate this block as disruption has continued (and now I know why). --]&nbsp;] 20:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:I reinstated the block. According to UTRS #6595, a professor at the New College of Florida is having students edit Misplaced Pages as part of a course assignment. The sender of the email had a ncf.edu domain, so we know it's a legitimate user. I unblocked it so that the students could create accounts. Since a month has passed, I think they're probably done so we can reblock. But hardblock is completely out of the question, unless you want to give all the students IPBE. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 22:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for the reply and for reapplying the range block. It's odd that the range would also include addresses assigned to NCF, as that's not something that has been noted up to this point. I'll make sure to include that with my next email to the network admins at USF. I'm not seeing a need for a hardblock at this time, but liberal use IPBE would apparently be a viable option if we ultimately go that direction. Hopefully the issue is resolved by other means soon enough and the rangeblock can be removed entirely. Best, --]&nbsp;] 22:55, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:::That range consists of 65k IP addresses, it's not that strange.--v/r - ]] 12:39, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

== Your assistance please ==

You closed the deletion discussion at ].

The reason I didn't voice reasons for keep was that Iqinn and a partner were in the process of nominating so many articles I started for deletion that there were several dozen open deletion discussions.

If the avalanche of {{tl|afd}} had left room for me to respond to ''this'' afd I would have tried to refute the canard that she was just another illustrator. The reason she was chosen to be the sole illustrator at Guantanamo was that she was already one of the USA's leading illustrators. The large number of books for which she was the technical illustrator is one of the confirmations of this.

Some administrators closing comments offer information as to under what conditions the article could be restored. Of course they would be unlikely to do so when no one voiced a keep.

Hamlin is going to publish a collection of 160 of her Guantanamo courtroom sketches -- scheduled for October. The book is going to include her observations on Guantanamo.
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== Humanpublic's topic ban ==
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Your Highness! Should the topic ban be limited to editing articles? Did you intentionally leave out talk pages?--v/r - ]] 12:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::In that case, would it be prudent to limit it to 'practiced religions' or 'modern religions'? Other than books and law, I'm not sure if Romans and Greeks really practice anymore. Maybe I'm wrong.--v/r - ]] 14:33, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::::I considered allowing it for a while, but since his issue was over the veracity of things related to Christ, there may be mythological figures which may present a similar situation. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 07:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


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::::::I've never edited any faith/religion article unrelated to Christianity. ] (]) 15:28, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::::::And what do you mean by "my issue"? I attempted a single two-sentence edit to ], and my supposedly disruptive discussion on Talk was about sourcing. ] (]) 15:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 12 December 2024 ==
::::::::I didn't decide what to do; the community did. There were even people calling for a site-wide block, and given that there were some in favor of a faith/religion topic ban, I went with that as a compromise. You can bring it back up on ] if you want, if you wish to have the topic ban reduced to Christianity alone. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 16:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


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:::::::::You're not supposed to "go with that as a compromise." You're suppose to find consensus. There was no consensus for something broader than Christianity, and it made no sense since I've never even edited faith/religion articles broader than that. ] (]) 17:57, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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::::::::::For me, consensus means, what's the result that is mostly likely to be accepted by the participants of the discussion? If I had gone with Christianity alone, a significant number may have objected to it as being too lenient. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 22:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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And you went back to editing ], which was one of the pages which led to your ban. This shows every reason why no leniency should be shown. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 09:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
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:I have never broken a single rule in editing Argument from Silence, nor is it part of my topic-ban. ] (]) 14:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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::Yes, it is. The spirit of the ban is to prevent you from making the same edits as you did before. You are editing the talk page in a section that begins with Jeppiz's statement that "There is an unusually large number of sources that are Judeo-Christian and concern religion," so it falls under the umbrella of "related to faith and religion, broadly construed." -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 16:16, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

:::OK, so if I make a new section, and make the exact same comments in that new section, that doesn't violate the topic-ban? Would you please document, with diffs, a single rule that I broke in editing that article, ever? ] (]) 16:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


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::::That still violates the topic ban. Basically, you are banned from any discussion on that page that has to do with the use of religious sources. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 16:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


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:I don't know anything about this range. CT Cooper was the admin who originally blocked the range, with the reason "Personal attacks or harassment." I got a UTRS request from that range, so I changed the block reason to something more informative. You should contact CT Cooper for more info. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 19:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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I suggest you reevaluate the edits of ] and reconsider what you think vandalism means. He's had 5 warnings, is clearly edit warring, has violated 3RR and is violating the plot word limit guideline. If that does not constitute vandalism and you're content to let him carry on, then I also suggest you abdicate the authority you have to intervene in vandalism. ] (]) 17:32, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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:What makes you think you haven't violated 3RR? Recall that the exception is "Reverting obvious vandalism&mdash;edits that any well-intentioned user would agree constitute vandalism, such as page blanking and adding offensive language." I'm pretty sure you'd agree that the IP's edits do not fall under this definition. As such, I felt a 3RR block for the IP would be unfair. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 21:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
::Disruptive editing constitutes vandalism, someone with the power to block for vandalism should know that. Someone say, adding a bloated plot which violates the plot word limit, the copyright violation guideline, ignoring completely ALL the warnings given and making no attempt to respond to them or explain his edits while blatantly ignoring the guidelines being provided, and then edit warring over it (Edit warring itself vandalism and separate to 3RR which he also violated) with multiple editors is being disruptive, detrimental to the article, and thus being a vandal. These are things, basic things, that you should either know or not involve yourself in at AIV and let someone else deal with it properly. Instead you marked it as not vandalism based on a lack of knowledge and it was later removed as stale, freeing the IP-turned-user to come back and start all over again. So no, I do not agree with your definition at all, and considering the amount of times people have been blocked for doing what the IP was doing, I think many wouldn't agree with your definition. ] (]) 23:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
:::The key is ''obvious'' vandalism. And as for your first point, take a look at ]. Remember that vandalism is "a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Misplaced Pages." Even if the IP is unresponsive and unruly, I wouldn't conclude that they are intentionally trying to harm Misplaced Pages. -- ] ] ] ] &spades; 09:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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