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== A barnstar for you ==
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I'm looking for editors here on en.wp but who speak and edit on projects in the following languages:
# French, (] or ] seem active)
# Serbian (]
# Chinese (] or ])
I'm asking this in regards to a name change on those projects so that I can unify my Commons login. Thank you — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 18:36, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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:I suggest asking a steward; they're helpful at sorting out cross-wiki problems. ] (]) 20:22, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
::] works on every wiki, regardless of language, so you should be able to find one that speaks English by looking at their userpage. ] should be good for Chinese. --''']]]''' 23:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


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:Awww {{u|Littleolive oil}}, that is so sweet of you. I'm a bit embarrassed, and at a lack of words here. In some ways it feels like ages since we talked, in others it feels like yesterday. I guess that's the way it is for friends, even wiki ones. I think you deserve this for yourself more than me - but I am truly thankful. Bless you. ] (]) 10:16, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
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::Ched this is so deserved. You are one of the admins I count on for kindness and especially decorum and common sense. No pressure :O). My interest in Misplaced Pages has waned given some of the losses we've suffered. I've also had a poor connection for several months as I traveled-couldn't even tether to my phone. I hope you've been well. ] (]) 14:42, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi Ched, I was wondering if you could spare a few minutes to give me your take on ], cheers '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 08:12, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


== Merchandise giveaway nomination ==
: Hi WSC, great to see you. Actually, I did see and bookmark that page a while back, but failed to get back to you with any input. I had never heard the term "Going of the boil" before, but in reading through it - I'd have to admit that I can see some clear relevance to it. I'm not sure if you're interested in a critique of what is there, or my own personal views on the topic. I think it is very well written, so I'll likely only have comments on the later. I'm still rather spotty on my appearances on-wiki at the moment, but I will try to share my views next week at some point. Cheers and have a great weekend. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 16:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
::Hi Ched, If "going off the boil" is one of those phrases that hasn't crossed the Atlantic I might try and think of a more global name. Critiques and personal views are both welcome, I'm hoping that I've got all the main theories in one place. Though the more I look at it the harder it is to weight the relative importance of different elements, especially as some will have already had full effect and others are still working their way through. No great hurry in giving your views, I was thinking of making it a signpost op ed but that has been delayed by Sue going, or otherwise I might file an RFC. Though I can see that getting complex, but I would literally like to make a "Request For Comments". '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers''</span> 17:16, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Some variation of "losing steam" might be more accessible to those who don't often use British English or more archaic American constructions. ]] 13:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


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: Wow .. well Thank You {{u|Sdkb}}. I don't know as I'd ever be chosen, but I do appreciate the gesture. Very much appreciated. ] (]) 14:34, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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:Why thank you ASO - that's very kind of you. :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 16:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! == == A simple message from me to you ==


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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I appreciate you so much, Ched. You're quiet thoughtfulness is a welcome reprieve from the noise of life for so many who interact with you here. I will forever cherish your gift to me at a time when I needed it so much. Your amazingly bright Song has left its impact on the surface of my heart and is eternally tied to the musical strings of my Life as a part of my Song. I am so grateful our paths have crossed and my Hope is for a prosperous and healthy year ahead for you and yours. {{emoji|1F49E}} ]] 16:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You know only too well that you deserve it! Thank you for all the help and the insight into every single detail!! Please don't ever think of leaving!! You still gotta look after me! ] (]) 13:29, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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: Thank you so much {{u|ARoseWolf}}, you have no idea how much this means to me. While I've grown weary of the battles so prevalent on wiki, and become somewhat private in my efforts here - there are a few very good people (like yourself) that I cherish deeply. To know I've touched someone in a positive way means more to me than I could say with words. Your own gift of friendship puts you in some very rare company of the folks I know here. Thank you so much. ] (]) 08:54, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you Wikimon, that's very kind. We do seem to get a bit over-run with foolishness on the project at times, but I'll do my best to keep an eye open and help where I can. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 16:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
:: The highest honor I could hope to achieve is being called friend. I'm overly private about most details but I probably share more than I should. Still, its a genuine attempt to relate and be related with. No matter what we do as humans we are always trying to maintain relevance. You matter to this encyclopedia and the community as an important part of it. This idea that a human's unique POV in their approach to how things are written here doesn't matter is rubbish. NPOV doesn't mean we all have to see things the same way. Yours is a beautiful view of things and I appreciate you. --]] 18:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


::: {{u|ARoseWolf}} First my apologies for the delay in my reply - health and weather issues haven't been the best. I'm honored to consider us friends. I'll try to drop you a line in the next day or two and introduce myself a bit less formally. :-). Your kindness is amazing, and I can't overstate how much it touches me. Talk soon, and best always, ] (]) 12:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
== References needed ==
:::: No apology necessary. I disappear for days at a time usually doing something of immediate import to life here. I so look forward to hearing from you when I do. --]] 14:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


=== in friendship ===
Help! I can't find good references for my article I'm creating. I'm creating an article about ''Jaap Edenhal'' in Amsterdam, Netherlands. It's part of ]. It has hosted some of the biggest names in the music industry. Can you PLEASE find me a few good references? ] (]) 23:06, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for being around! - ]! - was on the Main page, DYK, and even made it to the stats. - In this young year, I enjoyed ], and wish you many of those. --] (]) 11:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


: And thank you ] for everything you do here as well - especially showing such friendship to me. Your picture is lovely, one of my favorites in that list I looked at very recently. I also wish you a wonderful 2022 as well. ] (]) 08:54, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
:Hey Evan, I'm not real active at the moment, and I'm not real familiar with the topic, but I'll see what I can find over the next few days. Perhaps early next week I'll drop a note on your talk about what I can dig up. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 16:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
:: thank you! I made a link to my new year's resolution, first for MarnetteD who's leaving (but will keep reading) --] (]) 09:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
:: 2022 began happily with vacation. I uploaded images but stopped at 22 January - click on songs. 30 January means 10 years of ]. It's also the birthday of ], - I'm so happy I mentioned his DYK on his 90th birthday when he was still alive. I have a great singer on DYK whom I heard, ], and wait for a Recent death appearance of ] whom I saw in action. --] (]) 20:12, 30 January 2022 (UTC)


:Thanks Ched! I sincerely look forward to your next reply. ] (]) 17:21, 29 March 2013 (UTC) ::: You've been gifted to see and hear many beautiful things - I appreciate you sharing them here. TY Gerda. ] (]) 22:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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::Real quick on the way out .. apparently there's some Marley/Cruyff connection , might be worth following up on. I don't speak Dutch, so I'll have to depend on google.translate for most things. I think there's going to be a ] here, it's just a matter of finding the ] to support the article. I will try to find you some things by early next week though. Have a good weekend Evan. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 20:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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] - more --] (]) 17:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)


, with spring flowers and plenty of music --] (]) 17:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
You have a good weekend too! ] (]) 06:49, 31 March 2013 (UTC)


--] (]) 22:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
== Comment on your Comment ==


I took the pic in 2009. It was yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English ]. --] (]) 10:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Ched, you have nothing to apologize for. Having opinions is what makes us human, and you manage to express yours in constructive ways even if they don't toe the politically correct line that will accelerate this place's death spiral. The indifference of good men is the doom of this place, and your justified outrage at times indicates that you are not indifferent. Far better to defend the work of others than to hunker in the corner OWNing policy and refusing to admit or see that change is inevitable and that it only becomes harder and more painful the longer the OWNing continues. Staying true to yourself is difficult here, and from what I've seen you've managed to do just that. My hat's off to you. ]] 14:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you very much for that Into - it is very much appreciated. Hopefully I can regain a certain objectivity and focus in the next week or two. Best to you and yours my friend. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 22:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


== Always precious ==
== Your comment at the recent AN thread regards Niemti ==
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Ten years ago, ] were found precious. That's what you are, always. I cherish working with you, 10 years ago when we faced a difficult situation, and now that we silently improve songs' articles. ] ... - my next: ], thinking of my mother. --] (]) 09:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


I noticed that you gave me precious in response 10 years ago, - you could use the same code if you want to do that again, - I learned the use of BASEPAGENAME today, - about time ;) --] (]) 09:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
*I don't want to make too much of this but just some food for though... You stated in that WP:AN regards Niemti a few days ago that Niemti was ''never given a second chance'', ''baited'' and whatever else. That was completely spurious: outside of whatever's been going on with Sjones, plenty of editors - of whom I'm just one - made patient, good faith efforts to collaborate in his GA VG efforts (suggest checking my reviews from everything from UFO: Enemy Unknown, to Curse of Enchantia, and then to the reviews brought up in the RfC; or noting that, say, DaveFuchs, an editor of excellent standing who has largely remained above the subsequent fray, patiently and impartially reviewed his work). His present difficulties are entirely his own fault, and indeed it's ''mind-blowing'' to me that he's ''still'' editing, after being community-banned for years for the same stuff, being unilaterally unbanned without consensus, and then despite a clear majority supporting another banning at the last RfC, cannot be banned due to ''no consensus''. You also brought up Niemti's supposedly prolific creation of quality content. The number of successful of GAs is a reflection of patchy reviewing standards at GAN, and Niemti's passive-aggressive filibustering of attempts to improve his awful content (as well as his taking credit for others' achievements on his user page: as was pointed out in the AN thread, your claim of a successful FAC nom was incorrect, and it was made by someone else). More telling is that so many of his GANs ran into the same negative feedback, exemplified by that Taki (Soulcalibur) review which was de-facto failed by 4 different editors before being formally so, such was the supposed impatience and intolerance exhibited towards him. This is what really gets me about the whole saga: it has been solely viewed as a civility vs. contributions issue (Malleus-syndrome), when in fact in content alone, Niemti is a terrible, net negative to the project. As has been demonstrated so many times before (and completely ignored by commentators on the various AN(I) threads), Niemti is an exceptionally bad video game writer, his contributions being full of biased, arbitrary collating of one-liners from his secondary sources, and purple prose-laden plot sections full of fictional detail.
*And a footnote to all that... much seems to have been made of the fact the RfC dragged on for months, supposedly a reflection of SJones and perhaps Sergecross's "hounding" of him. Neither of those two were involved in writing the original statement; it was I who wrote it, and the reason no closure was sought (aside from the fact it has remained relevant and found new signatories for months, due to Niemti's ongoing behaviour) is simply that I have largely not being editing for months. And on that note, you said that Niemti's troubles are relevant to the question of editor retention. Indeed it is. As was again pointed out by others in response to your AN comment, I am no longer contributing, in large part because of Niemti, and other incompetents who are given ridiculous leeway and second chances (see also Jagged_85). Perhaps, like Niemti, I should have screamed it in the various threads, but I have at least 20 successful GANs (in far longer time than Niemti, but without all the drama and multiple attempts), an FA, and as people have been kind enough to acknowledge (]) managed to partially standardise and revamp the topic of video game genres a few years ago. No more of that for Misplaced Pages.
*Now having written all that, it reads like waaaayyy more a rant that I intended. But basically, your assertion that Niemti was ''never given a second chance'' is untrue and quite insulting, and if anything brings one to opine ''no wonder why people get disgusted with this project'' it is the continuing, baffling ''tolerance'' shown towards Niemti by the community (though not by those who actually have to collaborate with him). And so - spurred by the fact that, unless I'm much mistaken, it was you who unblocked Hanzo in the first place xD - I was irked enough to want to respond. Cheers, ] (]) 16:54, 3 April 2013 (UTC).
::Thank you for your input, and I will take that into consideration in moving forward. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 16:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
:::From what I've seen, there was enough bad conduct to go around for everyone. ]] 17:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
::::Yep, I'd fully agree to that. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 17:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


: I'm sorry I'm not up to editing right now - but the memories are very dear to me. ] (]) 03:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
== Thanks! ==


== A barnstar for you! ==


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== Thank you for your work as an admin ==
Theonesean has given you a ]! Hershey bars promote ] through chocolately goodness and hopefully this one has made your day better. Hershey bars are wonderfully delicious! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a Hershey bar, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.


Thank you for your work as an admin, Ched. I wish you the best and genuinely hope that your health improves and hope to see you around. If you ever need anything on here in terms of rights/flags or whatnot, feel free to ping...I'd be happy to help. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
''Hey, I just wanted to thank you for welcoming me to Misplaced Pages! I just wanted to give a Hershey bar to my new favorite WikiYinzer!''
: Thank you - that's greatly appreciated. ] (]) 18:57, 18 September 2022 (UTC)


*Gah! One more decent admin less. You'll be missed. I also seriously hope that your health improves and hope to see you around. ] (]) 19:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Spread the goodness of Hershey bars by adding {{tls|Hershey Bar}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!
* Thank you for your service to Misplaced Pages. —]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]) 21:49, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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* Sorry to see you step down, but it's understandable. Your health is far more important than anything that goes on here. ]] 00:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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* Hey Ched, I hope that these health issues are solvable challenges and that you'll be able to return in full force sometime in the future. Thinking of you. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 00:55, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
* Ched, you are a phenomenal person, an amazing editor and this community deserves more admins like you, not less. I count it such an honor to call you friend. You were so influential in getting me through my health issues in 2021. Those were some long lonely days and nights. I know the health issues have plagued you recently and I so hope they get resolved so you can continue to share your Song with everyone you meet. Strength, courage and peace for you, that's my hope and wish. Thank you for serving this community as a kind teacher and faithful admin and continuing to be a confidant and friend to myself. --]] 14:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for great patient kind admin work for as long as I'm here. Yesterday, we sang old music for two choirs at church, , scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it. And I wrote an article about music premiered today, ], thinking of you. --] (]) 14:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


--] (]) 13:47, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
:How could I not love that? Made right here in our very own state too!! And I'll admit - my fondness for chocolate is rather well known too. Thanks TheOneSean .. good luck here, and welcome to the project. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 00:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
*Absolutely want to echo everyone here. Selfishly I want to thank you for the RfA co-nom nearly 13 years ago, but you've been a real rock here for ages and ages. Best wishes for your continued health, we've all been lucky to have you. ~ <span style="color:#DF00A0">Amory</span><small style="color:#555"> ''(] • ] • ])''</small> 00:37, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
*I just found out about this, and I want to wish you all the best. I hope that you feel better soon. --] (]) 20:26, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
*Ched, I'm not even sure why, but I associate your name with moderation, courtesy and good sense – all qualities I wish I had more of – so I was sorry to see you turn in your admin tools. May I wish you all the very best, and a speedy recovery from whatever is ailing you? And hope to see you around from time to time? Regards, ] (]) 19:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


Hey Ched, we haven't interacted much, but I always recognized your name as one of the most sensible and honest people on here. I hope everything is OK and you recover from whatever is affecting you. Prayers. ] (]) 19:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
== Thanks ==


== A personal message ==
Thanks for the note. I did consider WP:RFPP, but figured that a response there could take a while, so I just went for it myself. Thanks for offering to watch the page. ]''']''' 01:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
:No problem - just had a look at your RfA too .. Impressive! Sorry I missed supporting that. One minor thing ... "Go black and gold" ... LOL .. Steeler/Penguin fan ''in da house''. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 01:27, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


I saw your message at ]. I don't think we've had that much interaction over the years, but yours has always been a username I associated with level-headed wisdom and kindness. One of our best. I wish you the best possible outcomes with the medical challenges you face. I wish you peace. --] (]) <small>]</small> 08:23, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
== Yep, you win! ==
:And I'll second everything Dweller's so eloquently put here. Best, ''']''' (<small>aka</small> ] '''·''' ] '''·''' ]) 19:45, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
::Late to the party, as usual, but I'll third what Dweller said. ] ] ] 17:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


I remember our very first direct interaction. We didn't interact much, but I always came around your username, and Dweller put my feelings into words very well. I wish you great health. I hope you still edit once in a while. Take care of yourself, and yours. —usernamekiran ] 12:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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== A barnstar for you! ==
Jack Sebastian has given you a ]]! Cookies promote ] and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.


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== Ched ==
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You are appreciated and valued for all the many contributions you have made to the community and the encyclopedia. On a more personal note, I will never forget how you helped me through a very difficult season n my life. I miss our little talks but please feel free to email me anytime. I think about you often and wish you only the best. I still sing song's of love, joy, health and strength for and over you and yours. Your Wolf friend, ]] 15:35, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
:LOL .. TY Jack. And in the interest of sharing .. to my {{tps}} I'll ask the same question: What movie is the following quote from: '''"You changed, man..."'''? Step right up - ring the bell - and get a free plate of cookies. (if you were born after 1984, you may not get this one) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 18:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


:Thank you all for the kind words. ] (]) 22:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
::Is it '']''? If not I can't wait to find out the correct answer because all I can hear in my head is Bart saying it in "]". Cheers. ] | ] 18:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


== Happy New Year, Ched! ==
::: Hmmm .. I do like Jack Black - and have even caught a few of the Simpson's shows .. but actually what Jack Sebastian and I are thinking of is a quote from a movie long before either one of those. Hint #2 ''"Look, man, I ain't fallin' for no banana in my tailpipe!"'' — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 18:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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== A Barnstar ==
::::I'm guessing that ]. If so I wanna add that "Gosh time goes by too fast." It only feels like it was a few years ago that I was in a theater watching that and it is more like three decades. Thanks for the extra clue. ] | ] 18:49, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


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== Every editor is a human being ==
::::::Many thanks for the cookies and yes dirt and I shared a crib at one point :-) With the way the technology is going - HDTV, and HD audio systems, Bluray etc - future generations may never step into a cinema. That will be kinda sad. For a wonderful site dedicated to the film palaces of the past you might like this one. In particular I was very lucky to be in the audience at this theater many times over the years. Thanks again and cheers. ] | ] 19:09, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


I was going through my notifications and saw this chat between you and Gerda Arendt. I am surely not the first person to say this, and I hope I will not be the last. I hope you are well, no matter what Misplaced Pages throws at you. '']'' 23:28, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
== pong (I love internet table tennis) ==
:+1. --] (]) 19:25, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


== Every editor is a human being; Part 2 ==
ygm? you gibbering meathead? were you indeed intending to post on my talkpage? ] (]) 21:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
:LOL. ygm= You've Got Mail, per {{tl|ygm}}. It's basically asking you if you had time to have a gander at ]. Basically there's an infobox war brewing (again), and rather than have it spill out any more than it has on AN/I and multiple talk page, I was hoping to have some discussion where maybe everyone could get on the same page. I don't want to get into any instruction creep or anything - just a general consensus that everyone can either agree on, or at least "accept". Right now a lot of it has to do with the Classical Music composers group. But if it goes well, it could be a future link to other such "groups" or "Projects" that run into that crap. Anyway - the reason I pinged you is because I remember how much you helped with the WP:RIP stuff, and I thought maybe you would be willing to have a look and offer any advice you might have. I figured if you really weren't interested in editing, you might look and drop a line in email. Gibbering huh? Well ... Haarumph! — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
::I am really sorry, but I am in no frame of mind to get involved in something like this matter; when I briefly re-activated recently I found I hit a wall very quickly, and simply do not have the energy or enthusiasm to participate in a meaningful manner. Rather than start and then bail out, leaving other people to pick up or clean up whatever I leave, I think it best that I stay away. I hope you understand my viewpoint. ] (]) 11:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
::: No apology Mark. All that's important to me is that you keep being my friend. You're always there to talk to when I need a friend, THAT is what's important to me. More often than not I'm hanging by a thread myself here. You helped me keep my focus and find a way through some times that were rough for me. I may leave tomorrow myself. Suffice to say that I DO understand. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 11:44, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


That includes you, Ched. I'm so glad my friend is still coming around. I hope you are well. I think of you often and still cherish your gift. Thank you for being such a kind, thoughtful, and caring person. --]] 15:30, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
==FWIW==


: Great to hear from you {{u|ARoseWolf}}, hope you're doing well. ] (]) 20:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ched, we've never really interacted but of course I see you around. I noticed your post on Iri's page and peeked at your contribs. Not sure how much my opinion counts and I haven't looked closely but I think ] is a terrible idea. From where I sit it will only drive away productive editors. If that's the goal, and they're not considered "quality editors" then go for it, but truth be told, there are a very small handful (''very'' small) of editors who are pushing this agenda. Most editors don't care, just want to get on with editing, but this, in my view, will cause much more drama than it's worth. You haven't asked for my opinion but thought I'd butt in. Anyway, good luck with whatever you do, but it's one RfC I'll be ignoring. And in ignoring it, most likely walking away from the all the pages I've recently edited to get a sense of what I need to work on - this after a winter of writer's block. Oh well, that's WP for you, half a step forward and two backward. ] (]) 04:24, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


== July music ==
Furthermore - because I don't believe in back channeling - I'll lay it all out here. I've put up with this crap since November 2011 after a particularly unpleasant run-in w/ Br'er Rabbit (going under another name at the time), which then quickly morphed into another unpleasant encounter regarding ref templates, and finally infoboxes - all on articles on which I'd put in a lot of edits and effort. From there it pretty much spiraled out of control with people taking sides and trench warfare. I just want to write; I find it relaxing. A few minutes ago I thought maybe I could pull myself back in, but after seeing this and anticipating unnecessary drama am tempted to turn the semi-retired to a black retired tag. Let them have the templates if that's what they want. Let the people who come here to relax and indulge in writing as a hobby be pushed out. I don't really care. I'm sorry to soap-box like this, but in four months have lost 2 close family members, one less than 48 hours ago, and really really thought maybe I could spend some time doing what I really enjoy instead of the non-stop fighting I've seen for more than a year. Am I personalizing? Yep, I am, but from where I stand, I've been at the tip of this iceberg and have watched it play out in all its nastiness since the beginning. None of it has been necessary. Anyway, done now. Do what you want and what you think is best. ] (]) 04:44, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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Nice to hear from you! - Great music (in June, I'm behind: three great RMF concerts)! - Last Saturday, a friend played for us at her birthday party, on four instruments including ], with family (granddaughters!) and colleagues, from Renaissance to Haydn. - My ] is very personal: the DYK appeared on Misplaced Pages's 15th birthday, and describes a concert I sang. I was requested to translate the bio into German for a memorial concert ... - see ], and we talked about life and death. --] (]) 16:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


::Nope, haven't been around. ] (]) 04:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC) : Always nice to see you again {{u|Gerda Arendt}}. ] (]) 20:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
:: Thank you! - On ], you can find ], and ] from East Germany. Also: a bit about the history of QAI on my talk, mentioning your name ;) - Thank you for being part of it, you and I the hard rock! --] (]) 16:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
:: While today's DYK highlights ], I did my modest share with ], describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --] (]) 15:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
:: Today ], and I'm listening to ] from the Bayreuth Festival, close to the scene pictured, - the image (of a woman who can't believe what she has to see) features also on the article talk. --] (]) 19:03, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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Thank you for improving an article in September ;) - pics from Berlin last weekend --] (]) 13:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


== ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message ==
: {{ec}} Hi Truthkeeper88, it's a pleasure to finally meet you because I've seen you around a lot too. Actually, my goal is to ''avoid'' losing our top quality editors like yourself with this. I can almost hear the frustration in the voices of some of the people on ''both'' sides of the issue, and I'm hoping to sit and talk and try to reach an understanding with everyone. I wanted to get away from that horrible AN/I type of discussion where people are asking for bans, and blocks and such I want to avoid the "oh user:xyz is an idiot", or "user:lmn never listens" things and just talk and listen to all sides. PLEASE feel free to jump in there at any time. I honestly was going to stop by your talk page and invite you personally once I rolled it out and posted it to a RfC page, not ''just'' because it was a chance to say hi, but also because I know it's a topic of great interest to you. For myself, and I suppose most folks don't care but, I'm not likely to edit much of the cultural style of articles like fine art, classical music, and thing like that. I tend to stick to sports, movies, military etc. But anyway - I do see people on both sides of this infobox thing that I ''KNOW'' are our "best editors (including you)" that don't agree on this. If you have some suggestions, ideas, thoughts, or even just want to blow off some steam - ''Please'' feel free to talk to me. Well hopefully people won't be "blowing off steam" at the RfC, but I hope you know what I mean. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 04:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
::No! I've talked until my face is blue and ''no one'' listens! I've gone from bringing seven articles a year through FAC to two - and after Rschen's bombshell will most likely give up. Seriously. Real life sucks (I can just hear MathewTownsend aka Matisse saying "why does she complain about how bad her life is?") but when people are dying in your life and all you want is to write but instead have to defend why the humanities can't be shoehorned into an infobox, that's just not fun. At all. Anyway, thanks for listening. I'm logging out. Was hoping to work on some articles tomorrow, but can see more strife ahead and I don't want it. Sorry, but that's the way it is with me. ] (]) 04:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


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: {{ec}} @Rschen, . I've been aware for a while that wikidata existed, and noticed earlier the delivery of the newsletter. So I finally went and took a look around to see what it was all about - I may even find a way to chip in over there with a few things once I get my bearings and understand how it works. Without a doubt it has been a thought in my mind over this whole infobox/metadata situation. TY for the heads up - great minds think alike? — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 05:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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::@ Truthkeeper88 (is it ok if I just use TK?). I am so very sorry to hear about your losses. I'm getting older, and I've lost no less than 6 very close friends and family over the last year, so yes .. I do understand how you feel. Maybe the "Wikidata" think isn't what you think it is .. it's not going to make it harder for you to work on articles - honest. And if you ever need a shoulder to lean on, you can stop by anytime - or even drop me an email. Take care, and sleep tight. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 05:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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:::Yeah, I think we should have more enwiki admins who take an interest in Wikidata - trying to bridge the gap was one of the reasons why I went for sysop there. Of course there's the other extreme of trying to push our views on other projects like some other badly behaved enwiki-ers who go to Commons/Meta, so there's a balance. Truthkeeper, I'm sorry to hear that - both about your losses, and that you've been unable to edit due to frustration. I've gotten back into the FAC scene over the last few months, and it's definitely taken some getting used to. --''']]]''' 05:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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*Ched et. al., please read re an infobox on ]. It's more than a year old, the first such discussion I was involved with, and deteriorated quickly. The arguments I present there are arguments for that page only, but also have a look at how many edits I made to the page, the number of sources (a lot of reading!), and then read what Riggr writes about the pursuit of knowledge. Some biographies are difficult and Pound was, to say the least, a complicated personality, hence shoe-horning is hard. I like how google presents Pound, data somehow they found without WP's infobox, and with images we can't use (or at least the last time I looked). I'm not a die-hard "I hate infoboxes" editor. I think things through, analyze and then make a decision; I have infoboxes on some pages, not on others. We ''could'' probably have an infobox for Pound, and I'd certainly put a lot of weight on the opinion of the editor with the second highest number of edits who is in favor of one - but I do feel strongly that the "infobox" wars detract from the real work that needs to be done to create and write a comprehensive encyclopedic entry. For example, no one actually dug into Bach and edited or tidied the page there during that protracted conversation - yet wouldn't our time be better spent doing that? That's really my stance re infoboxes. Anyway, thanks for the kind words from you and Rschen too. It's a lovely day where I live, we might actually get spring one of these days, so I'm off for a while. ] (]) 14:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
:: Thank you for the links and input TK. It's a much bigger picture than I first imagined, so it's going to take me some time to wrap my head around the whole thing. I had hoped to be more timely, but I can see that I need to do a lot of reading before I can really understand the big picture. I also have a couple articles that I want to get back in NASCAR area, I'm trying to get up to speed on a couple other projects (Foundation, Meta, Wikidata, etc.), I have an essay I need to review, and as always - real life keeps me busy as well. A real pleasure getting to know you, and I will get back to you as soon as I can. As always, feel free to drop by with links, notes, thoughts or just to BS a bit. Best — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


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* Is there a way to turn off the SUL thing for just commons? That is to say, until I get the name User:Ched registered there at commons, can I find a way to stay logged in at commons as User:Chedzilla, without having it log me out of my other wiki projects such as simple, here at en, foundation, etc.? The problem is that there are 3 foreign language wikis that have a "User:Ched", ones I'll never edit by the way, and commons won't let me use that name until I have usurped the accounts on those foreign language sites. Any help or advice is appreciated. Thanks. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


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:As far as I know, there's not a way to turn off SUL on your end. You may wish to ping the people at ] and ask there, and the equivalents on the wikis in question if there's a server/admin/steward-side way to do it. <small>This was a lame response because I don't know, but it was bothering someone that an *admin* was using a {{t|helpme}}... :)</small> ]<span style="position:absolute"><sup>]</sup></span><sub>]</sub> 02:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
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== December greetings ==
::: Thanks Gwickwire. I've had the VPT thing in mind for a bit, but haven't posted there ... {yet). Why would it bother anyone that an admin would ask for help? Just cause I have a couple extra buttons doesn't mean I'm all-knowing, any smarter, or any better than any other editor here. There's a LOT of non-admins around that know bucket-loads more than I do. But now I'm curious - who was bugged by that? (I also thought of IRC too, but didn't want to get back into that again - hard enough staying away from FB). MF-Warburg? ... hmmm .. I've seen a "Warburg" around before, but I was thinking it was Jake or something like that ... meh .. anyway ... tell him I said Thank You very much. I did get a reply from someone on the Serbian thing .. and have posted to a couple others for the Chinese and French, but know it's the weekend too. And thank YOU too gwickwire - I very much appreciate you going to the trouble of following up on that for me. I'll be looking into that m:SRSUL link. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 02:47, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
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::::::Hi there, MF-Warburg is me, I happen to be a steward and was on the help IRC channel (because gwickwire made me :O) when the bot reported your request. I wasn't exactly sure of how your problem could be solved a day ago, but I think I meanwhile remembered: ''That is to say, until I get the name User:Ched registered there at commons, can I find a way to stay logged in at commons as User:Chedzilla, without having it log me out of my other wiki projects such as simple, here at en, foundation, etc.?'' -> Yes, your Commons account can be "unmerged" from its SUL account ], much like the current user:Ched@commons is unattached from ]. That way, there would of course not be any automatic log in anymore to other wikis when you log in on Commons as Chedzilla. (The account can then later be renamed to Ched, once Commons allows it, etc.) If you would like the unmerge to be done, you can request it on m:SRSUL or here, since I'll be watching the page for a bit ;) --<small>]</small> 14:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
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:::::::He makes me sound so evil... But seriously, I don't mind replying (when it's something I know!) to {{tl|helpme}} from anyone :) (there's always -en-help on IRC for a faster response). Have fun with your Bishzilla impostor :P ]<span style="position:absolute"><sup>]</sup></span><sub>]</sub> 14:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
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Today, I have ], of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --] (]) 08:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::: {{ec}}Hi MF, apologies for confusing you with another editor. I just got done requesting the French usurp this morning, The Serbian request hadn't been responded to when I last checked, and the Chinese request has a 7 day wait. So at this point, I'm content to wait until early next week to see where I stand, rather than confuse matters any more than they already are. I'm going to hold on to your post and will go that route if one of the requests fails, and I do thank you for the help. To clarify a bit, I do have a main account on commons, but it has my last name attached to it, and I've uploaded maybe a half dozen pics with that one. My rename on en.wp went smoothly, but some of the other language wikipedia.org sites already had a "User:Ched". Thank you very much for your help, and I'll follow up with you in a week or so. Cheers. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


== Another year over but hope for a new year ==
::::::::: @Gwickwire. I do have to admit that the Chedzilla editing is much quieter - and I don't have to worry about any of the adminy stuff when I'm logged in with that one. (Chedzilla have great honor to be friends with Bishzilla .. rrawrrRR) :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

::::::::::Sorry for the {{ec}} :) Seriously though, Chedzilla need run adminship. We need more dinosaurs and other mythical/monstrous creatures in the admincabal. ]<span style="position:absolute"><sup>]</sup></span><sub>]</sub> 15:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

::::::::::: Hmmm .. that is a thought. But, in the last year I have: Asked to have my last name removed, which required a usurp. Asked to have my admin. tools removed when someone in North Carolina tried to hack my email. Asked for my tools ''back'' about 3 months later. I'm thinking maybe I should leave the 'crats alone for a bit. :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:43, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::Bah, what else will they spend their days doing? More usurps and sysop tool removal/regainings? :P ]<span style="position:absolute"><sup>]</sup></span><sub>]</sub> 20:32, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

== Chinese SUL ==

You can request it through . I think it has enough English for you to continue. ]] 03:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you .. I will do that. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 03:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ched. For French SUL, go to ]. The instructions are mostly in English. The ] account last edited on January 14, 2013, so I'm not sure if they'll grant you the rename. You could just file the request now and see what happens, or I could try and figure out later what the chances of a rename would be. '''<font face="Arial"><font color="#FF7133">Maxim</font><sub><small>]</small></sub></font>''' 02:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks you Maxim ... I will follow up on that the first thing in the morning. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 04:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
: {{done}} — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

==How 'ya doin'?==
Very good indeed. EotW is getting great response, newbies are being welcomed daily, the ] is being reconstucted, the presidents timelines have been troublefree for years, Will may return (I'm surprised at our difference in that regard)and WP life is good. As always, I'm concerned about your well-being. I dread the thought of the crap you have to deal with. Recapture Your Enthusiasm. Stay well, my friend. ```]<small>]</small> 04:43, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:Glad you are well, and that projects and pages are doing well. Trying to stay focused, on topic, and balanced here; so no complaints on my end. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 13:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

== \o/ ==


Think I'm done here. ] (]) 06:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:See also . ] (]) 08:09, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::Oh good grief .. I thought BMK had more clue than that. sigh. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 12:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::::Ched: Sorry, I don't understand your comment. A editor put a "help" request on <u>my</u> talk page (not theirs). I wasn't asking for help - I know what the policy means as well as anybody and didn't need an admin to explain it to me - so I removed it; if an editor wants help, they can use their own talk page to ask for it, and not usurp someone else's. How is what I did indicative of not having clue? For sure, I'm a sinner and I ain't no saint, no argument from me, but I truly don't know what you're referring to in this instance. (Not being rhetorical either, I'm really looking for an answer.) Best, ] (]) 02:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::I wasn't offended, just confused. ] (]) 03:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::88.104... is rapidly digging himself to 6 feet under. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 14:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:::: I've gotten some advice from another Wikipedian much wiser than I, and I've left a note . If it is an editor in good standing, then there should be ways to resolve it. My understanding is that the 88.104.xxx.xxx range comes from an ISP that offers a very "dynamic" option. I've never been one to play the "catch my sock if you can" game, so I'm not exactly in familiar territory, but I'll do my best at finding some solution or notifying someone with better clue to this than I have. TY for the note Bugs. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 14:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::Notice how he's splitting town, or claims to be. Typical behavior of a block-evading sock. He can't go to ArbCom because then they'll know who he is and probably sanction him further, such as maybe a permanent ban. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 20:37, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

It's moot, because I'm being hounded off any discussion I contribute to - see for example .

The misinterpretation of SOCK demonstrated in means they consider ''any'' IP that dares join in any discussions to be 'avoiding scrutiny'.

It's impossible to challenge the anti-IP attitude because it is so pervasive amongst admins; any attempt at discussion quickly gets closed down. It's a horrible environment, and those bullies have got their way by driving me away.

Good luck, goodbye. ] (]) 19:58, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::Oh don't be so ridiculously melodramatic. The only IPs that are affected by the proper application of the sockpuppetry policy are those who are obviously not newcomers, exhibiting their understanding of Misplaced Pages's ins and out, and who edit disruptively, as you have. The vast majority of IPs will never fall under suspicion. (And, actually, those editors with accounts who use IP editing as an unofficial but '''''true''''' clean start, who edit productively, without disruption, and outside the ares of their previous interest, will almost certainly get away with it. What gives up the socking IP, such as you, is their behavior, and their attitude.) ] (]) 02:34, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

* Bugs .. you've got email. :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 20:39, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

== Note ==

I don't agree with your reasoning as I see several editors using warnings like this ] to try and have a chilling effect on discussion in this topic area. I think that's wrong. I didn't bring the issue to ] because it's not a content issue, so I brought it to their talkpage and left them a note. I think I have been civil at all places. These are also the entirety of my edits to that editors talk page ever: . I think saying that borders on harassment is unfair, but I will voluntarily stop posting to the editors page if you wish (except standard notifications I am required to leave). ] (]) 00:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:IRWolfie, it is very late for me here, so I will discuss this tomorrow if you wish. It is not up to me to say "don't post to User:xyz page", that is up to the individual user to request that. Personally I don't really care about the whole "TM" issues. I have my thoughts, and respect the thoughts of others. Your recent efforts are however not in line with the goals of this project. Misplaced Pages was built on the concept that anyone can edit. And any attempts to badger another editor into providing private information are totally unacceptable. Deal with the content, and do '''NOT''' try to manipulate other editors. If I haven't made myself clear here - feel free to ask. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 04:14, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::The request I made wasn't about private information; I wanted to them to stop mentioning sanctions where it wasn't appropriate. Can you at least clarify to olive that this wouldn't be a violation of discretionary sanctions: as she appears to think here: ? Olive and Keithbob appear to be under the impression that bold edits violate discretionary sanctions. Do you agree that this warning is inappropriate? ] (]) 09:13, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::: I will make Olive aware of this conversation, but I'm not sure which "warning" you're asking for my views on. If you want to clarify that, then I will have a quick look. I personally don't normally edit in the TM areas, although I do, and have read some of the articles. I have not really followed any of the discord or cases in that area; although I am aware that they exist. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 19:29, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

:::::Hi Ched . I have your user page watch listed since the comment you made on my talk page recently, so I saw this post. I'm not sure what Wolfie is really asking. He links to a discussion on a WP:GAR first, where an editor voices an opinion about the article. Fair enough, everyone is entitled to an opinion. That editor also suggested deleting 75% of an article under discretionary sanctions. Per the TM arbitration, peremptory deletion of RS content is seen as a violation. Opinions do not count as reason to delete content. I therefore left a note on the GAR page mentioning that the article in question fell under the umbrella of the TM sanction. I didn't address anyone; its just a reminder for all. What is worth remembering is that an arbitration places this kind of sanction to protect articles in part from single-viewpoint, single-editor edits and is, in effect, demanding collaboration from the parties in a disagreement situation. That's all I know. If IRWolfie has concerns about his own editing, I suggest he ask for input. And the safest way to proceed on an article under sanction is to invite discussion and get agreement for deletions. Thanks Ched for hosting this.(] (]) 20:53, 9 April 2013 (UTC))
::::::@Ched, I think this interpretation is incorrect; I note that TM is just under standard discretionary sanctions, not any special other sanctions (see the case page). The diffs are the two I linked. ] (]) 21:13, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::::: I'll have a look at the links (they appear to be a GA discussion and a user talk page). I'll respond once I've done some reading and had some dinner. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:23, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Considering that was what my original message to Olive's page was about . I had assumed you had read them since you gave me a warning about it ... ] (]) 21:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
* After reading multiple threads I am even more concerned. I am not one to get involved with GA articles (which you link to), so I have no comment there. I am also familiar with the talk page you link to. In my view you have been following other editors around and stalking them. I understand that the term "" is not politically correct, but the concept is not acceptable. I've read you post in regards to the TimidGuy situation, and I found a great deal of irony in that post. We should not be here to research our editors personal life. Asking a question a first time may be acceptable, but repeated badgering of "'''where do you work'''" is completely unacceptable. Quite frankly I think that your recent postings are blockable because of the "wp:out" policy. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 05:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

::I only became aware of what I couldn't specifically ask with regards to COI when seeking the clarification; mainly because it is so strange I had never thought I was not allowed to ask people for clarifications themselves. I had thought that was reasonable. I don't think I repeatedly badgered anyone. I may have asked question I didn't know I couldn't ask (I thought it would be ok I wasn't using off-wiki information and thought that was what, COIN did for example). No other editor had made significant contributions to Hagelin in a month before I edited that article, and neither keithbob, olive or TimidGuy, who would I be following? I came to it from the wikiproject, due to real concerns about NPOV in that topic area (from the furor around BeBacks request, I started looking at the topic area since editors had said it had gotten more POV); I have highlighted the real tangible problems I found on that GA page.

::If you look at my edit history, I was following : see . That's how I came to ]. Look at the GA version of that article, there are real issues. It's hard to see if I am being reasonable if you don't look at the GA review version when I say there are significant issues with POV.

::I'd also ask you to pick some TM wikiproject articles at random and see if one of TimidGuy, Keithbob or Olive haven't already edited the article. If I edit any article in that area someone can always pull a diff out showing one of the editors having edited it sometime in the past. I'd also like to add that I didn't suggest even doing the GAR, it was a regular at ]. If I don't interact with the K, T and O while fixing the NPOV problems, that's fine with me.

::I think there are issues with POV editing by particular editors but I plan on going to AE (actually I don't plan on making a filing, but adding evidence ); as NW highlighted as the way to proceed. ] (]) 09:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:::You mention the talk page and the article itself, did you also look at the GAR I linked to? ] (]) 10:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

::::I believe that the ] article falls under the ] umbrella, but I'm going to move on from this topic. I don't usually get involved with GAR things, so I'm not inclined to post there. I also think that your edits concerning Olive are in poor taste (per ]), but since the subject is at an Arbcom related page, I will trust the Arbs to deal with it as they see fit. Thank you for your responses, and I hope I have answered any questions you had. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:54, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::That;s ok, good luck, ] (]) 21:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

:::::: One item that may be worth mentioning here is in regards to COI allegations. Just something to keep in mind in moving forward. And good luck to you as well. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 00:16, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::::The evidence does exist on-wiki and was linked at the clarification page (not by me), but I don't want to labour the point as Arbcom has made their position clear; don't discuss non-paid COI ever. ] (]) 10:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Someone please , because any purported personal identification needs to be addressed immediately. ] <small>]</small> 01:42, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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Ched, I hope you've had the best of holiday seasons and my wish is for a new year full of joy and peace for you, my friend. I will never forget your gift to me at a time when I needed it most. I am forever grateful for the lights the universe guided to me in my darkness. You continue to have an impact on my life and I will always cherish you. --]] 19:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
:As I noted at ], I had noticed that page. I've added it to my watchlist. I don't actively go about searching for admin. candidates simply to add another admin. to the project, but have on occasion asked someone if it was something they would consider. Recently I had noticed both NE Ent, and Intothatdarkness (or maybe it's IntoTHEdarkness); and I suspect that both of them would make fine administrators. I'll think about this for a bit and perhaps I'll have further thoughts on the subject. TY for the note ASO. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:36, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::Nope...it's a 'that' as opposed to 'the.' ]] 21:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::: ROTF .. well, talk about "all seeing, all knowing". :)— <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 23:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::: Naw...I'm actually quite aware of how little I really know. ]] 13:50, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::::: ]? :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::: To an extent, perhaps. Although now I'm running into some issues with an article that's been expanded by a student working on an assignment as part of that education program they talk about from time to time. I can see why it bothers people...the article wasn't especially accurate to start with (and I'd toyed with putting it up for deletion), and what's being added has some issues. ]] 17:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::: Ahhh .. yes, I had seen several threads on the WMF recruiting students and various teachers using Misplaced Pages as a classroom tool. I personally have mixed feelings about the matter. I'm always happy to see new people wanting to join our project, but I wonder sometimes if maybe pushing people into this environment is not always a good choice. What article is it? — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 17:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::::: ]...an article that was already based on a more or less worthless lineage term invented by the Army to award campaign streamers to units. ]] 17:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


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:Thank you Writ Keeper, I've responded there. Hopefully things will be worked out by the time I get back tomorrow. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 03:03, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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] is about the TFA, by sadly missed ]. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to ] next - which I will begin today, finally, promised, - this picture. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for ]. - How are you? --] (]) 11:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


] died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of ]. --] (]) 15:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Today is "the day" for ], also for Bach's ] (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up --] (]) 19:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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New pics of food and flowers come with ] of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by ]. I nominated ] because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated ] for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --] (]) 13:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
== groupthink ==


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
Saw your new box. I need one that says "This user is really good at recognizing when other people are engaging in groupthink, but isn't very good at convincing them to stop it, and also has a bad feeling that he probably does it too and just doesn't realize it." Except pithy. --] (]) 20:34, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] <sub> '']''</sub> 18:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:hmmm .. I will think on it. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 20:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
::thinking: my user page page has no boxes, it's singing - I just changed the top ;)
::ps: I like ], especially "... to learn more about how quickly and easily you can help make Misplaced Pages better. As we say: Be bold!" --] (]) 22:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
:::I used to enjoy doing "html" and webpage design - but it's been a long time since I worked on those things. I gave up my domain last fall, and was so sad to see how it was used by the new person. All the work I had put into SEO - gone. All everything .. gone. Sigh, such is life, no matter how much you build, it will all eventually decay into dust. But let me know if you want a hand with something Gerda ... If you want something like the Call of the Wild page .. I can help copy it over for you. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 23:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
::::I like my own wilderness, no copies, but thanks for the offer! - I offered it to ], DYK? - A hand? Have a look at ], the article with an illustrious list of editors. Or the latest, ], of today, --] (]) 23:29, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
::::: Actually I had seen the Holz... article after a discussion on Mally's page. Looks very nice. I'll look at the Oswald article in the near future. TY for the links. :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 00:17, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::Some compliments. Ched, I get a kick out of your animation about drama boards; makes me laugh each time I look at it. Gerda, anyone who likes classical music and opera is presumptively a good person. I used to play harpsichord in another life.--] (]) 00:28, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::: Hey there Bbb. Yea - wiki can make one fill like "WTH"? sometimes. I think I first noticed that from a link that one of the Bish family had posted to. I love music .. but I couldn't carry a tune or play an instrument if my life depended on it. And yep .. I think Gerda is an absolutely WONDERFUL person, but I'm not really objective on that either :) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 00:39, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::::My mother was tone deaf. I have perfect pitch. Go figure. BTW, objectivity is vastly overrated (this from Mr. Rational).--] (]) 00:45, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::::: My first chorus class, the teacher (who won many awards actually) had us follow the scale as he played it on the piano. When it was my turn, he didn't even look up - but simply said "You get to report to study hall next week". Thus ended my singing career. Well .. that and once while out Christmas shopping and I was unconsciously singing along with the radio - my mom said "Where is that noise coming from". Fortunately I was gifted with great intelligence, insight, and charm. ... oh .. and humility. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 00:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Ah, Ched, you brighten my day (lol).--] (]) 01:03, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:16, 18 June 2024

I am not constantly or consistently on wiki at any given time. I might be able to spend 10 hours a day editing; or I may be away for extended periods of time. The reasons aren't important to wiki, but the point is that if you don't get a response here in short order - please feel free to look elsewhere. It has never been my intent to ignore anyone, and it never will be. If I don't respond in a reasonable time frame, feel free to ping me again, or drop me an email.
If you post here, then 99.9% of the time I will answer (here). I try very hard to not ignore people. The few exceptions would be trolling, people I've asked to stay off my talk page (0 at last count), and vandalism that isn't funny. (funny vandalism is always at least smiled at prior to deletion). ~ Ched



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A barnstar for you

The Good Heart Barnstar The Good Heart Barnstar
Because you are always kind and patient even in contentious situations. Long overdue! 
Littleolive oil (talk) 21:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Awww Littleolive oil, that is so sweet of you. I'm a bit embarrassed, and at a lack of words here. In some ways it feels like ages since we talked, in others it feels like yesterday. I guess that's the way it is for friends, even wiki ones. I think you deserve this for yourself more than me - but I am truly thankful. Bless you. — Ched (talk) 10:16, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Ched this is so deserved. You are one of the admins I count on for kindness and especially decorum and common sense. No pressure :O). My interest in Misplaced Pages has waned given some of the losses we've suffered. I've also had a poor connection for several months as I traveled-couldn't even tether to my phone. I hope you've been well. Littleolive oil (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Merchandise giveaway nomination

A t-shirt! A token of thanks
Hi Ched! I've nominated you (along with all other active admins) to receive a solstice season gift from the WMF. Talk page stalkers are invited to comment at the nomination. Enjoy! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}  ~~~~~
A snowflake!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:50, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Wow .. well Thank You Sdkb. I don't know as I'd ever be chosen, but I do appreciate the gesture. Very much appreciated. — Ched (talk) 14:34, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

A simple message from me to you

The Friendship Barnstar
I appreciate you so much, Ched. You're quiet thoughtfulness is a welcome reprieve from the noise of life for so many who interact with you here. I will forever cherish your gift to me at a time when I needed it so much. Your amazingly bright Song has left its impact on the surface of my heart and is eternally tied to the musical strings of my Life as a part of my Song. I am so grateful our paths have crossed and my Hope is for a prosperous and healthy year ahead for you and yours. 💞 ARoseWolf 16:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much ARoseWolf, you have no idea how much this means to me. While I've grown weary of the battles so prevalent on wiki, and become somewhat private in my efforts here - there are a few very good people (like yourself) that I cherish deeply. To know I've touched someone in a positive way means more to me than I could say with words. Your own gift of friendship puts you in some very rare company of the folks I know here. Thank you so much. — Ched (talk) 08:54, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
The highest honor I could hope to achieve is being called friend. I'm overly private about most details but I probably share more than I should. Still, its a genuine attempt to relate and be related with. No matter what we do as humans we are always trying to maintain relevance. You matter to this encyclopedia and the community as an important part of it. This idea that a human's unique POV in their approach to how things are written here doesn't matter is rubbish. NPOV doesn't mean we all have to see things the same way. Yours is a beautiful view of things and I appreciate you. --ARoseWolf 18:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
ARoseWolf First my apologies for the delay in my reply - health and weather issues haven't been the best. I'm honored to consider us friends. I'll try to drop you a line in the next day or two and introduce myself a bit less formally. :-). Your kindness is amazing, and I can't overstate how much it touches me. Talk soon, and best always, — Ched (talk) 12:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
No apology necessary. I disappear for days at a time usually doing something of immediate import to life here. I so look forward to hearing from you when I do. --ARoseWolf 14:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

in friendship

January songs
in friendship

Thank you for being around! - Happy new year, in friendship! - One of my pics was on the Main page, DYK, and even made it to the stats. - In this young year, I enjoyed meetings with friends in real life, and wish you many of those. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

And thank you Gerda for everything you do here as well - especially showing such friendship to me. Your picture is lovely, one of my favorites in that list I looked at very recently. I also wish you a wonderful 2022 as well. — Ched (talk) 08:54, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
thank you! I made a link to my new year's resolution, first for MarnetteD who's leaving (but will keep reading) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
2022 began happily with vacation. I uploaded images but stopped at 22 January - click on songs. 30 January means 10 years of Precious. It's also the birthday of a friend, - I'm so happy I mentioned his DYK on his 90th birthday when he was still alive. I have a great singer on DYK whom I heard, Elena Guseva, and wait for a Recent death appearance of Georg Christoph Biller whom I saw in action. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
You've been gifted to see and hear many beautiful things - I appreciate you sharing them here. TY Gerda. — Ched (talk) 22:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
February songs
frozen

my joy - more on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Valentine's Day edition, with spring flowers and plenty of music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

stand and sing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I took the pic in 2009. It was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. I cherish working with you, 10 years ago when we faced a difficult situation, and now that we silently improve songs' articles. This little light ... - my next: Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, thinking of my mother. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I noticed that you gave me precious in response 10 years ago, - you could use the same code if you want to do that again, - I learned the use of BASEPAGENAME today, - about time ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry I'm not up to editing right now - but the memories are very dear to me. — Ched (talk) 03:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
For your superb work on Ice Station Zebra. Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul have brought renewed interest to this old, forgotten film. If it wasn’t for your improvements, we wouldn’t have much to go on. Thank you again for your commitment to quality film articles. Viriditas (talk) 08:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your work as an admin

Thank you for your work as an admin, Ched. I wish you the best and genuinely hope that your health improves and hope to see you around. If you ever need anything on here in terms of rights/flags or whatnot, feel free to ping...I'd be happy to help. TheSandDoctor 18:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you - that's greatly appreciated. — Ched (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Gah! One more decent admin less. You'll be missed. I also seriously hope that your health improves and hope to see you around. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your service to Misplaced Pages. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 21:49, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Sorry to see you step down, but it's understandable. Your health is far more important than anything that goes on here. Intothatdarkness 00:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Hey Ched, I hope that these health issues are solvable challenges and that you'll be able to return in full force sometime in the future. Thinking of you. Ed  00:55, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Ched, you are a phenomenal person, an amazing editor and this community deserves more admins like you, not less. I count it such an honor to call you friend. You were so influential in getting me through my health issues in 2021. Those were some long lonely days and nights. I know the health issues have plagued you recently and I so hope they get resolved so you can continue to share your Song with everyone you meet. Strength, courage and peace for you, that's my hope and wish. Thank you for serving this community as a kind teacher and faithful admin and continuing to be a confidant and friend to myself. --ARoseWolf 14:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Job Done
Awarded to Ched for good services as an admin, and for resigning the tools in a noble manner. SilkTork (talk) 01:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
September songs

Thank you for great patient kind admin work for as long as I'm here. Yesterday, we sang old music for two choirs at church, pictured, scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it. And today I wrote an article about music premiered today, Like as the hart, thinking of you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

travel and strings sound --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

  • Absolutely want to echo everyone here. Selfishly I want to thank you for the RfA co-nom nearly 13 years ago, but you've been a real rock here for ages and ages. Best wishes for your continued health, we've all been lucky to have you. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:37, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  • I just found out about this, and I want to wish you all the best. I hope that you feel better soon. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Ched, I'm not even sure why, but I associate your name with moderation, courtesy and good sense – all qualities I wish I had more of – so I was sorry to see you turn in your admin tools. May I wish you all the very best, and a speedy recovery from whatever is ailing you? And hope to see you around from time to time? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Hey Ched, we haven't interacted much, but I always recognized your name as one of the most sensible and honest people on here. I hope everything is OK and you recover from whatever is affecting you. Prayers. Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

A personal message

I saw your message at WP:BN. I don't think we've had that much interaction over the years, but yours has always been a username I associated with level-headed wisdom and kindness. One of our best. I wish you the best possible outcomes with the medical challenges you face. I wish you peace. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 08:23, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

And I'll second everything Dweller's so eloquently put here. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:45, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Late to the party, as usual, but I'll third what Dweller said. Ritchie333 17:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

I remember our very first direct interaction. We didn't interact much, but I always came around your username, and Dweller put my feelings into words very well. I wish you great health. I hope you still edit once in a while. Take care of yourself, and yours. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Ched--I don't know if you've gotten one of these recently, but you certainly deserve one. It's a pleasure and an honor to have you as a colleague. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Ched

You are appreciated and valued for all the many contributions you have made to the community and the encyclopedia. On a more personal note, I will never forget how you helped me through a very difficult season n my life. I miss our little talks but please feel free to email me anytime. I think about you often and wish you only the best. I still sing song's of love, joy, health and strength for and over you and yours. Your Wolf friend, ARoseWolf 15:35, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you all for the kind words. — Ched (talk) 22:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Ched!

Happy New Year!

Ched,
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A Barnstar

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
I Recentley found Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/missed users and found it heartwarming that someone would honor those who have left wikipedia, keep up the good workStarman2377 (talk) 20:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Every editor is a human being

I was going through my notifications and saw this chat between you and Gerda Arendt. I am surely not the first person to say this, and I hope I will not be the last. I hope you are well, no matter what Misplaced Pages throws at you. Geometry guy 23:28, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

+1. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:25, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Every editor is a human being; Part 2

That includes you, Ched. I'm so glad my friend is still coming around. I hope you are well. I think of you often and still cherish your gift. Thank you for being such a kind, thoughtful, and caring person. --ARoseWolf 15:30, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Great to hear from you ARoseWolf, hope you're doing well. — Ched (talk) 20:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

July music

July songs
my story today

Nice to hear from you! - Great music (in June, I'm behind: three great RMF concerts)! - Last Saturday, a friend played for us at her birthday party, on four instruments including baryton, with family (granddaughters!) and colleagues, from Renaissance to Haydn. - My story today is very personal: the DYK appeared on Misplaced Pages's 15th birthday, and describes a concert I sang. I was requested to translate the bio into German for a memorial concert ... - see background, and we talked about life and death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Always nice to see you again Gerda Arendt. — Ched (talk) 20:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! - On today's Main page, you can find a cantata that Bach first performed 300 years ago, and an iconic saxophonist from East Germany. Also: a bit about the history of QAI on my talk, mentioning your name ;) - Thank you for being part of it, you and I the hard rock! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
While today's DYK highlights Santiago on his day, I did my modest share with my story today, describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
Today Jahrhundertring, and I'm listening to Götterdämmerung from the Bayreuth Festival, close to the scene pictured, - the image (of a woman who can't believe what she has to see) features also on the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
September songs
my story today

Thank you for improving an article in September ;) - pics from Berlin last weekend --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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December greetings

December: story · music · places

Ched, one of the first people I got to know here, and the first ever to send me an email: thank you for what you do and stand for! I wish you a good festive season and a peaceful New Year! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Another year over but hope for a new year

Ched, I hope you've had the best of holiday seasons and my wish is for a new year full of joy and peace for you, my friend. I will never forget your gift to me at a time when I needed it most. I am forever grateful for the lights the universe guided to me in my darkness. You continue to have an impact on my life and I will always cherish you. --ARoseWolf 19:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

2024



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised, - this picture. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. - How are you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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