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| ==The Snoqualmie Pass photo== | |||
| I was the one who deleted the Criticism section of ], because I feel it's somewhat POV to confine any negative comments to a separate section, and because it's somewhat confusing to have discussion of the same subtopic in two different places. This isn't specific to criticism of the iPod; I don't like Criticism sections in general. | |||
| The photo you added is nice, but I do not believe it is actually from Snoqualmie Pass. There are 2 major problems with this to be a SP photo. First, the railroad tracks shown on the photo are below the road. The Milwaukee Road rail lines were never located near the road anywhere on Snoqualmie Pass, especially below the road. Also the lack of trees makes this photo appear to be taken in Eastern WA, possibly near Ellensburg. It might be a photo on Highway 10 'on the way to' Snoqualmie Pass, but it could not have been taken on Snoqualmie Pass. ] 22:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Replaceable fair use Image:HectorRuiz.jpg == | |||
| What I did was not just delete the section, but instead I split its information into the various subtopics, where relevant. is the diff, if you'd like to see it. I'm more than flexible on how things are split and where they go, but I'd rather see ugly Criticism sections gone whereever possible. | |||
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| :Actually, you moved almost none of the substantive criticism of the iPod into other sections when you deleted the Criticism section; most of it you deleted entirely. Examples: | |||
| :*You completely eliminated any mention of the iPod/iTunes combination as a potential vertical monopoly (in my opinion the most important criticism of them all). | |||
| :*You soft-pedaled the FairPlay system's incompatibility with non-Apple music players to the point of unrecognizability. | |||
| :*You eliminated most of the criticism of the iPod as being technologically inferior, in the eyes of some, to competing players, retaining only a narrow and somewhat esoteric criticism regarding gapless playback. | |||
| :I don't know whether or not your motivation was to whitewash any and all criticism of the iPod and turn the article into a big wet kiss for the device, but that was very definitely the effect your changes had--which is exactly why it's so important that the Criticism section remain in the article. | |||
| :"Criticism" and "controversy" sections are by their nature POV. This does not create a problem when they are presented in context, in an effort to fairly and appropriately report upon legitimate criticism that the subject of an article has engendered. Often partisans of the subject being discussed come along and pair some or all of the criticisms in such a section with rebuttals, which can be entirely appropriate if done well. In some cases a subject garners so much criticism that it gets broken into its own article entirely, as for example ] and ]. POV? In some sense, yes--but in a larger sense such articles are necessary to ''eliminate'' bias by ensuring that all sides in a dispute are fairly represented. | |||
| :You may not like criticism sections in articles, but they've evolved as a widely accepted means of achieving compromise on topics that tend to create controversy, and it's not up to you to unilaterally decide that they should be removed from articles. I will oppose any attempt to eliminate the Criticism section in the iPod article. --] 05:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| ::The third point was partially intentional and unrelated; the same language, changed slightly, could be applied to <i>every single electronic device in the history of electronic devices</i>. To say that there are those displeased with the performance in a general way is a tautology. I retained the battery complaints and the gapless playback complaints; what is left in that paragraph, besides some vague references to subjective sound quality complaints that aren't much bourne out by reviews? | |||
| ::That aside, these are fair points, and I probably didn't do a very good job of integrating them into the other sections. My goal wasn't to eliminate criticism per se, but to eliminate the ugly Criticism header where all of the negative comments are sequestered, a full screen away from the origina subtopic being criticized. Why isn't criticism of the iTunes integration under the iTunes header? Likewise the vertical monopoly comments? Why not put the criticism of the battery with design? Why do we need a pouporri of negative comments all in one place? | |||
| ::I understand the value of retaining criticism. What's the value of a specific Criticism heading, though? ] 02:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==Sweet== | |||
| ::I've made a temp version in my userspace, for you to take a look at. I retained all of the vertical monopoly wording (and even reinforced and reiterated it somewhat), and harshened the commentary on unsupported formats and the battery replacement issues, while deleting the criticism header entirely. (I also deleted a bad link, moved the Harmony stuff, and move the BMW link to the body of the text, but I doubt you care about that.) Let me know what you think. ] 03:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Just wanted to say welcome back. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 21:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == An offer == | |||
| :::Well, with a week of no comments on the iPod talk page, I'm just going to be bold and do it. ] 22:06, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I've noticed your appeal to the Committee. While I don't have any connection to the specifics of your case or your appeal, I do have a standing offer to anyone who gets sanctioned at arbitration (short of sitebanning) that I'll give out the Barnstar of Resilience if they start a new article that gets into Misplaced Pages's main page under "Did you know?" See ] for tips. | |||
| <nowiki>*laughs*</nowiki> I was planning to aim a bit lower than that, but what the hell, I'll see if I can't so something about restructuring ]. If I'm going to do something, might as well not do it in half measures. ] 00:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I don't know whether the Committee will accept your request, but a barnstar or two would speak in your favor. Best wishes, ]<sup>'']''</sup> 17:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hm. After reading Wal-Mart, I'm having trouble seeing how it could be restructured. The elements of criticism are topics in their own right, rather than downsides or caveats to other topics mentioned. For example, it's reasonable to talk about both the functional and negative implications of the iTunes/iPod integration in the same place, much of the critical commentary in ] is strictly critical commentary.<br> | |||
| On the other hand, there's no reason to have the "Employees" section separate from the "Employee/labor relations" section. Hmm.<br> | |||
| Not entirely sure if it was an earnest challenge to take on those articles, but I'll see if I can't do something with ] once the protection is taken off of that page. The recent trolling will make people extra-vigilant about "whitewashing," so it shoould be interesting. ] 01:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| {{vandal tags}} ] 01:06, August 28, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| The arbitration committee has voted to lift your probation in the above entitled arbitration case. For the arbitration committee, ] 12:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ] ] 19:25, 26 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| Thanks for the map images... they look great! --'''] (] - ] - )''' 02:23, 8 October 2005 (UTC) | |||
| In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification. | |||
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| == Washington State Route WP == | |||
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| Thanks for the route maps. | |||
| In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have. | |||
| However, the map for ] does not travel nearly the entire distance of SR-99. Having driven the road for many years, I can tell you that the State Route starts at an intersection just west of I-5 / SR-18 and intersects with SR-516. From there is travels north past Sea-Tac to a short freeway section, which then intersects with the map you have. If you could please update your map I'd greatly appreciate it. Remember Fife/Federal Way to Everett. | |||
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| ==Question about Air America ratings== | |||
| I left a response to your question at ]. best, --] 15:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I am updating the average ratings information on Air America radio, and I have a question about how you did it back in 2006. Did you use all affiliates or only majority Air America programmming affiliates? Hope you remember, thanks for your help. ] (]) 15:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Left a new reponse there to your new comment. In short, I apologize. I was wrong. I've also stated this publically and have proposed a remedy to put both DCV and JFAS on parole for stirring all of this up. Please check it out.--] 19:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==The Evergreen State College== | |||
| I made the original move and I was wrong. I left a more detailed message on the article's talk page. I've also moved it back. My apologies! ] · ] 02:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Can you please explain why The Game should not be classed as a game . ] 13:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Please do not deliberately remove sourced information and replace it with "some critics contend", as you did here--> http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ribbon_(computing)&diff=next&oldid=261681851. | |||
| Look at the ] and at the new completion list off ]. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 21:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Cool. But where do I add my statements? I pretty much agree with yours, but just wanted to provide support... also there's and . You can add that to evidence. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 03:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Um, you're not supposed to revert the page moves... to be fair I will have to block you if you move any more Washington State Route pages. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 01:07, 1 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm aware, and it's nothing personal.,.. but I've faced criticism for not blocking you... and then at the ANI page they were clear that it applies to all parties. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 23:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Bullshit redacted. —] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 16:28, 10 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Here is my plan: Go eat dinner. Then give them all the link and see what they think. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 01:58, 2 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Your comments are inappropriate and incivil. --] (]) 01:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Your Comment== | |||
| :::I don't know, it seems to be all the rage in any case, along with claiming that your opinion is that of "the community" so you might as well keep at it, and leave SPUI out of it while you do so. <font color="#4682B4">]</font><font color="#00FF00">]</font><font color="#E32636">]</font><sup> ''']'''</sup> 03:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Thanks for taking care of this so quickly. No hard feelings. --] 19:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Maine== | |||
| The war has spread there. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 22:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == AFD 4 on the Game == | |||
| I'm sorry about that. I hadn't noticed your earlier comment. Even if your earlier comment hadn't been there, my comment was probably too harsh. AfDs do seem to bring out the worst in people but that is not an acceptable excuse for my comment. Please accept my apologies. ] 03:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *There's no reason you should have remembered that comment, or remembered that it was from me. And certainly my new comment wasn't as helpful as it could have been. No hard feelings. --] 15:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Map request: ]; currently in development, but WSDOT site has a . Thanks <span class="plainlinks"><font color="green">]</font>] <small>(] • ] • • • • )</span></small> 04:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks :) <span class="plainlinks"><font color="green">]</font>] <small>(] • ] • • • • )</span></small> 16:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] comment requested == | |||
| I know you are in WA but could you check out my proposal listed on the linked title. Thanks <span class="plainlinks"><font color="green">]</font>] <small>(] • ] • • • • )</span></small> 01:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Go to ] (had a p there accedently...) <span class="plainlinks"><font color="green">]</font>] <small>(] • ] • • • • )</span></small> 04:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Wyoming Shield == | |||
| Thanks; I was planning to do that once i got around to making all the wyoming shields. Any particular reason for the naming convention WY-789? I've been making everything as .svg. CA followed this model, so i've adopted it as well. So far, Colorado, CA, North Dakota,Rhode Island, and Virginia follow this model. ] 20:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : SPUI has made a more descriptive model Shield.svg. That's being used at Utah and Florida as far as I can tell. ] 20:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Don't be a ]== | |||
| I did not "lose" anything on ] and ]. I urge you to read ] - ] (which was kept with '''no consensus''') is for stuff that is not a state highway, like the ]. --] (] - ] - ] - <small>]</small>) 18:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I'm applying normal editing in a case of no consensus. These categories hold state highways. I will continue to revert your mistaken edits until the cows come home and give birth to calves who grow up and come home. --] (] - ] - ] - <small>]</small>) 04:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *Wow, you're as relentless as the Ebola virus aren't you SPUI. ] ] 21:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==?== | |||
| I leave for four days and mass moves occur at Texas, California, Washington, and some other state (that I forget right now)? What's been going on? --'''] (] - ]) ''' 02:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Your edit comment on ] == | |||
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| Thanks for adding a source, by the way. | |||
| ] / ] 22:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==CA/SR== | |||
| I see you've moved a lot of pages back to CA SR xx citing "no consensus". According to ], there's no consensus for your preferred method, either. I'd move them all back, but knowing the degree of stubbornness you guys have shown, it'll just get moved back to what it (incorrectly) is now. ] 22:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Actually, what I said was "Please don't move these pages without consensus." If there is no consensus for a change, the status quo wins out and the pages should remain as they were until and unless the situation changes. I truly am not nearly as concerned with which naming standard "wins out" as I am with ensuring that SPUI doesn't simply get to steamroll over everyone else with his blinkered ideas about what is "correct." Perhaps you'd be interested in explaining just what it is about the two of you that makes you so incredibly special that no one else's input matters? --<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>)</span> 00:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::It's obvious here we're using disambiguation wrong; the official names for state routes in California are State Route Number X or State Route X, not the proper noun California State Route X. Hence, the the word "California" is the disambiguation mechanism much like how "Lugo" is the disambiguation mechanism for ] or ]. If the article was at ], which is an obvious violation of the disambiguation policy, and several people wanted to keep it at Lugo Río Grande "just because that's how it's always been," that would only contribute to disorder. If you want road examples, ], not Quebec Autoroute. Furthermore, the current 'status quo' system was also devised by spui a few years ago (all the article names were all over the place when CA/SR first started, and spui had moved all of them to create a uniform system). He realises that it's wrong now and is trying to fix it. ] 00:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I disagree that your interpretation is the best way to meet the requirements of ], which says at the very top: "When choosing a name for a page ask yourself: What word would the average user of the Misplaced Pages put into the search engine?" The page itself gives a dozen examples of articles where the common name used for the article title is at odds with a more "correct" name. My belief is that an average user, knowing that Misplaced Pages is a global encyclopedia, when looking for information on ] would be most likely to search on a variation of "''california state route 87''" or "''california state highway 87''". I can't imagine that someone in, say, Amsterdam or Singapore would ever think that "''state route 87''", disambiguated or not, would be the best search term to use when looking for information on a highway in California specifically. I may be wrong. But I may not be wrong. | |||
| :::Look, you seem like a reasonable person, and this is an issue on which reasonable people can disagree. I truly believe this is an impasse that can be resolved. I honestly ''do not care'' that much which standard ultimately prevails, so long as it's arrived at in a reasonable and civil manner. It's just wrong for one person to unilaterally decide that he knows best and that no one else's input matters. My contributions are as valid as the next person's, and so are yours, and SPUI's contributions are no ''more'' valid than anyone else's. If you're interested in resolving this peacefully through discussion, then I'm with you all the way. --<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>)</span> 16:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I have been wanting discussion, but now everyone on eiher side has turned so stubborn that it's practically impossible to resolve anything with a objective view now; everyone is caught up with what spui does that no one is discussing the acutal thing that matters anymore -- the naming convention. So with a lack of anything better to do i've been sort of inclined to join the move wars... but as of late i've been moving to editing other sorts of articles besdies highways now since it's going nowhere. | |||
| Anyways, I agree with what you're saying -- no one would search "State Route 76 (California)". This is also the point Rschen has been making a lot. However, I don't think many of the disambiguated pages WILL be the common search term. If I didn't do wikipedia, i'd prboably never use parenthesis in search things like "]" -- I'd type "]". I'd search "]", not "]" and like the example I gave above, I'd search "]", not "]". Hence, I think all the disambiguation with parens IS at odds with the common anmes policy; nevertheless, it's the way things are disambiguated now (with the eception of City, State) ] 20:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :You may be right. Personally I'm beginning to think that there's enough inconsistency among the way people talk about highways, with ''state route X'' over here and ''state highway Y'' over there and ''"Illinois Z"'' messing things up, to make it difficult or impossible to guess how users are likely to search for highways anyway. (One last thing though: why is ] an article, while ] isn't even a redirect?) | |||
| :Either way, the wars have been going on far too long over something that's so ridiculous I feel foolish bringing it up anywhere. There's more blocking going on ] and ] and we both know it's not going to make any difference. What's really needed here is for a group of people on both "sides" to agree to start from scratch, listen to each others' arguments in good faith, come to a decision that's grounded in policy, and agree to abide by whatever decision comes out of the process. My hand is out, if you'd like to shake it. --<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>)</span> 20:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Good point with Governors; I initially thought it was just another misimplementation of disambiguation, but: they all refer to the same governmental position / job, only in different states -- whereas the ( ) disamibuation refers to different objects of the same name... I dunno. That's the best explanation I can offer. | |||
| ::We should create a highway naming tribunal somewhere and get afew poeple from either side. To be honest, I don't think Rschen would make a good addition because we've offered him a lot of arguments but he steadfastly repeats his own arguments over and over again... but otherwise i'm all up for it. ] 20:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::] was created by an admin the other day. (scroll to the bottom) ] 21:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::You shouldn't be too hard on Rschen; he and I were working on a ] very much like this one last month, and then SPUI preemptively ]. He may have gotten a little too invested in the struggle, but I believe he's sincerely interested in working out a consensus solution. In fact, I believe there's only one person on either side who ''isn't'' interested in working out a consensus solution... no points for guessing who it is. I'm hopeful that the dialogue on ] will result in progress, but SPUI's already rejected anything binding, so I'm not optimistic. --<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>)</span> 21:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Road dispute ArbCom notice == | |||
| In the road naming dispute, you have been named in a disputant @ ] this is the required notification diff -- ] 01:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Any help crafting my position statement would be appreciated. ] ] 18:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == State route naming conventions == | |||
| Please join the discussion at ]. --] 20:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I am updating the average ratings information on Air America radio, and I have a question about how you did it back in 2006. Did you use all affiliates or only majority Air America programmming affiliates? Hope you remember, thanks for your help. Diderot's dreams (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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