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	{{wikibreak\|Dick\|eventually. I'm running on low for a while, and should just leave it alone until I finish my book, but I backslide.}}

			I will reply here, and expect you to be watching my user talk page, even if you are Nyttend.
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			==Barnstars and such==

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	Taking my break more seriously for a while...RL calls. ] (]) 03:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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	== refs in ] ==

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	In reference to "". 1) If they are malformed, then you should format them better instead of removing them wholesale and 2) I think that I have seen enough text to be sure that they support the statements in the article.
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	If you have a problem with those sources, maybe you should ask in ]. --] (]) 17:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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	]. --] (]) 18:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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	:I don't have problems with the sources, since I don't know even whether they exist. Why is the title unknown? I don't believe you have looked at these sources or know what they say. ] (]) 19:31, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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			\|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" \| For an eternity of super-] at ] to rein in entire swathes of ] chaos and bring them into ]. I'm sure it can seem thankless work at times, so ''thanks!'' <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ><sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>< </span> 19:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
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	I am notifying all participants in ] that Dicklyon has moved to close the RFC/U, with a summary on the talkpage. Editors may now support or oppose the motion, or add comments:
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			] submitted the following nomination for ]:
			:It is said by many that '']''. Misplaced Pages articles are vastly improved and enhanced by the use of images. Dicklyon's user page displays just some of the over 500 images he has added to Misplaced Pages articles making the articles more enjoyable and interesting for our most important commodity, our reader. ]. He is a long-time veteran editor with over 137000 edits (58% in mainspace) who always uses the edit summary to clarify his edits and communicate his intentions to following editors. He also participates in various timely and important ] discussions to improve what and how we do things around here. A trusted, productive and helpful editor that deserves recognition as an Editor of the Week.

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			\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| I've started to note the many scholarly contributions of this author, beginning with editing of the Misplaced Pages Cintel pages. For images and vision, I've had a lifelong career in color grading for feature films, tv commercials, videos, etc. with telecine and other systems worldwide; as a musician, 'Human and Machine Hearing' will certainly be fascinating. Thank you to Richard F. Lyon for providing the PDF of this work to all.
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	Best wishes,

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	:Thanks, I was going to do that, but got distracted by actual work. ] (]) 04:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
	== Season's tidings! ==
	] ''To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank)'' and ''Happy New Year!'' ] (]) 18:48, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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	Hello,

	Glad to see that you have taken on the labor of Hercules over at the "Additive color" article. I am certainly not the best person to be attending to that task, but having linked to the article from quite a few others I was horrified when I looked in on it last night and saw what it had become. My editing in immediate response was strictly a "Round One" rev 1.0, meant to be heavily rehashed in short order, so please don't judge me too harshly by it.

	The one thing I will lobby for is some prominent embodiment of the gist of one of last night's additions:

	:"The additive and subtractive systems, although superficially so different contradictory, are simply the two polar opposite approaches to reproducing a wide range of colors by controlling the relative amounts of red, green and blue light that reach the eye."

	I know from sad personal experience how inadequate most textbooks are in getting this across. It took me years to recover from what ''Science: The Key to the Future'' taught me about color systems in the eighth grade. Another WP editor, who shares many of my interests and is very well-informed about most of them, is woefully unready for prime time when it comes to the subject of color, as demonstrated by a talk page comment suggesting that CMY filters are preferable to RGB when making separations for reproduction with a CMY system, because it "saves a step", or words to that effect.

	Confusion about the additive and subtractive systems is ubiquitous and needs to be clearly and succinctly attended to in the related articles. I am still groping my way toward some optimal and technically correct stock wording for accomplishing that end. Constructive suggestions are very welcome.

	Happy Holidays! ] (]) 01:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

	:And happy holidays to you, too. I mostly just do a bit of reactive tweaking, so no big plans to take it on. The bit about "may appear contradictory" and "polar opposite approaches" would be OK if sourced and attributed, but seems too interpretive to be normal encyclopedic reporting. Find a source or two that makes the comparison in a way you like and base it on those. ] (]) 05:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

	==Negative value==
	"there is negative value in piping to avoid redirect"? ] (]) 13:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	:]. ] (]) 17:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
	::Thanks. ] (]) 12:51, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

	== Numa Numa ==

	Hi Dick, I don't know if you always watch pages where you participate in RMs, but either you or I has missed something at ]. Please take a look when you get the chance. Thanks, ] (]) 21:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

	== Happy New Year ==

	Happy New Year! Yes...my family considers it to be some kind of addiction...here is how I explained it six months ago . I may need a better story soon. All the best. ] (]) 07:25, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

	== WP:FOC ==

	In your article and policy talk page content, please remember ]:

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	I bring your attention to this because of your focus on editor conduct (mine) rather than content. Two recent examples are ("no need to disrupt a long-stable name just because Born2cycle finally got his way at ]") and ("This is just another tool that Born2cycle can use to argue to try to get his way").

	--] (]) 19:55, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

	==junk==
	speaking before 1454 ad ... square root was the topic ... http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/EgyptianAndGreekSquareRoot.html

	I guess your editing of these facts keeps wikipedia in the modern time period. enjoy the present
	bye,

	Milo Gardner <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

	:Yes, I do often revert junk that's too incoherent to fix. ] (]) 00:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

	too terse does not capture your emotional actions ... that are not justified by the math history topic under discussion ... a topic that will resolve itself shortly ... miloi

	thank you .. this issue will resolve itself shortly... outside of Heron's "Metrica",

	http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/263417/Heron-of-Alexandria#ref218221

	your domain of math thought .. math is my primary language ... English is only a means to an end .. to report math history as it took place .. concerning Archimdes arithmetic and algebra ... Heron came later ...

	:Maybe you can get an English speaker to help you. Try posting your ideas on the article talk page and ask for help turning them into article prose. ] (]) 19:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

	== Template:US airport data ==

	As per ], I have updated the documentation for {{tlx\|US airport data}}. Thanks for the reminder. -- ] (]) 15:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
	:Many thanks! ] (]) 16:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

	== A barnstar for you! ==

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	\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| In particular for the ongoing discussion on ] regarding a pesky little I. At the end of the day, it may not have been resolved but we all did work together to try and get it sorted, even if we did feel at times we were banging our heads on our desks and calling our computer screens idiots. <span style="border:2px solid black;margin-top:2px;bottom:2px;font- verdana;background:#FF8000" > ] ]</span> 14:58, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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	Hello Dicklyon. I see your post at ] and I continue to think that Born2cycle's have more merit than they seem credited. He does, however, seem to write too much, and I tend not to read it all. I also see evidence of a lot of bad blood complicating things. I wonder if you could help bring me up to speed, especially with respect to title styling of names. --] (]) 02:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

	:It's a long and complicated history. Before I ever interacted with him, B2C was on the campaign he describes on his user page, and in 2009 he became a big influence at TITLE, rewriting parts of it to deemphasize recognizability and precision in favor of conciseness and algorithmic approaches to naming. In 2011 he came to my attention with his push to totally eliminate en dashes from titles and from wikipedia more generally; kind of like Wikid77's recent thing. Probably no reason to dig deeply into all that, but it might give you an idea why I usually distrust his proposals and often disagree him in RMs involving tradeoffs with recognizability and precision. ] (]) 03:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
	:See current example of his thinking . ] (]) 03:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

	== Sunny 16 rule ==

	Hi Dicklyon, I just read your message. I added a minor update on this article by giving it a link to a new article about night photography, titled ]. I would like to receive any correction and advise as I'm still newbie here. I even doesn't know how to reply your message at first. Thanks for your help. ] (]) 02:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

	== Golden Ratio Links ==

	Hi - got your note and I respectfully disagree with your removing the link to the Irrational Numbers Search Engine. Did take the time to follow the link? There are no other sites that I am aware of that offer this unique capability and the engine has processed over 400K searches in last 3 years. ] (]) 03:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC) ] (]) 19:01, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

	:James, your edit history suggests that your main or only contribution to WP is to place links to subidiom.com. That makes you a de facto spammer. If you think these are good links that ought to be included, feel free to explain why on the article talk pages. ] (]) 04:14, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

	::Dickylyon, I take exception to your characterization - Please take a moment to more fully review my contributions to the site; while I am not a prolific user, I have made meaningful contributions to a variety of topics over the years. I am familiar with the linking policy I firmly believe that the links in question fall into the "meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article" category and indeed, have proven useful to many users interested in the studying large irrational numbers. Finally, the linked-to site is content driven and completely non-commercial. Please help me understand your concerns, and refrain from attacking my character by referencing me as a 'spammer' on the site. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:::Your 2012 contributions involved exactly 4 articles, and the subidiom.com link on all 4. Before that, I didn't check in detail. I'm not attacking your character, just commenting on your behavior. As I suggested, "feel free to explain why on the article talk pages." ] (]) 06:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	Hello. Thanks for tagging this for notability back in Jan 2008. I've looked it over but am not sure. You may want to take it to the Notability Noticeboard or AfD to get it resolved once and for all. Best wishes, ] (]) 20:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

	:There seem to be a few secondary sources referring to the "]", so I moved it to that. It needs work, but probably passes notability with this title. ] (]) 22:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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	==Caps==
	Hi, quick question, only if you have time: I just created a bio stub with the disamb "(Coptologist)", am I right to capitalize? ] (]) 02:52, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
	:Excellent question. But knowing nothing about it, all I can say is that it looks likely. I'm not sure what the underlying proper name would be. Copt? Coptic? ] (]) 06:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
	::I suppose both. I'll leave it as it is, thanks. ] (]) 07:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

	== WP:MOS guideline revert concerning WP policy COMMONNAME ==

	Earlier you reverted the edit by ] to ]. Kim's edit added that the ] policy takes precedence over the MOS guideline. This edit was a result of a very long debate concerning the capitalization of the title of ] (the debate was not only ongoing on the article's Talk, but had spread to a number of other article Talks, as well as to a couple MOS project Talks; the debate later spread into the "real-space" media as a result of an by ]—]—which commented on the duration and content length of the debate). The publicity that resulted from the comic included several real-world articles disparaging Misplaced Pages as "uptight", "bureaucratic", and its editors as "idiots" (among other things). All this brought admins not aware of the debate to investigate. They determined that COMMONNAME, being a Misplaced Pages ''policy'', took precedence over the Misplaced Pages ''guideline'' of the MOS (a result of which, admins ] and ], against the ongoing debate and RMs, moved the article to its present location). It also resulted in Kim Bruning's addition to the MOS project article which you soon after reverted.

	I thought that I would bring this to your attention in case you were not aware of it as the revert may spawn some debate at MOS Talks (particularly about Misplaced Pages policy versus guidelines), as well as potentially other editors making similar additions to the MOS in the aftermath of the STID debate.<br>— ] (]) 07:02, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

	: I just noticed that you were participating in a discussion in the MOS Talk about this. Apologies for not checking that first before posting here. — ] (]) 07:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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	==New MOS:CAPS discussion==
	The topic of an inconclusive discussion that you participated in (]) has been brought up again at ]. You may (or may not) want to express an opinion at the new discussion. ] (]) 17:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

	==Indian railway line pages==
	I shall be grateful for your kindly having a look at 1. ] and 2. ]. A new editor ] has moved these pages. In the first case I had used the names of only the terminal stations in the heading. Bubaikumar has added an intermediate station. In the second case, the line is under extension to Bishnupur and the extension up to Arambagh has been completed. So, it may be all right to add Arambagh. Once it is extended to Bishnupur, the heading will have to be changed again. More importantly, please see the style in which the heading is set. Should it be line or railway line? Is the spacing in order? Cheers. - ] (]) 15:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

	:I undid those moves, since they mangled the styling of dashes and capitalization; see ] and ]. Whether to include the various other names is a question more appropriately addressed by looking at how these are referred to in sources. You might want to start a discussion on the relevant article talk pages. ] (]) 20:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

	::Thanks. Please have a look at the ] page, or rather its talk page. - ] (]) 00:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::Thanks once again - ] (]) 02:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

	== f-number unit hyphenation ==

	Nevermind. I found that wikipedia's style guidelines differ from English standards on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Hyphens ] (]) 05:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

	:I understand the logic of unit hyphenation, and I used to do the same. But the SI specs say to not do that. I can't find the official doc, but here's a web page that notes "Use a hyphen between a numeral and its unit only when necessary to form a compound modifier, and only with a unit name, not a unit symbol: 3.5-inch diskette, 35-millimeter film." : http://www.poynton.com/notes/units/index.html – ] (]) 05:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

	== Color Subjectivity ==

	Hi Dick,
	The edits on the color page that you reverted are common knowledge to perception researchers, not POV. If you are curious to read more, Stephen Palmer's text book Vision Science: Photons to Phenomenology, Chapter 3 on Color Vision, makes exactly the points that I summarized. I will add references when I have more time.

	Also, the informal paragraph that I deleted is misleading and largely irrelevant. The only useful lesson to be drawn about color perception from comparing a black and white photo to a color photo is that only one of three color dimensions is preserved in b&w: lightness. The other two dimensions, hue and saturation, are excluded by the process. This tells us something about technology, not about subjective color perception.

	Thanks for keeping an eye on this page. I appreciate that your intentions were good, and hope to collaborate on improving this page.
	] (]) 00:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

	:I think it would be good to represent what Stephen has to say about this. But the point about the lightness not showing breaks between different color categories is a completely different point; you could can challenge it if you want, but don't sneak it out by saying you're just rewriting it to be more encyclopedic when you're really replacing it with something unrelated. ] (]) 05:04, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

	::Please read the talk page. The discussion is already there, from other people.

	::You are commenting on my comments, not on my edits, and you are obstructing improvement to the article. The edits in question remove content that was judged ON THE TALK PAGE, BY OTHER EDITORS, to be poor and irrelevant. I concur with these views. It is not productive to rewrite irrelevant commentary. Instead, I added encyclopedic discussion of relevant topics.

	::I appreciate that you are trying to be helpful, and respect your efforts. However, please do not make edits on topics that you do not have knowledge about. First seek the relevant knowledge. There are infinitely many things I don't know about, but I teach college level courses on color perception, and am qualified to make the edits that you reverted.

	] (]) 19:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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	== Flip-Flop Diagram ==

	You said you want to take the logic-diagram I inserted into the Flip-Flop article to your talk page.
	Sho what should I improve in it?
	And what does crazy-busy mean?
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Flipflop_%28switch%29
	] (]) 18:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

	:I meant to the article talk page: ]. ] (]) 23:24, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

	== Bortle Dark-Sky Scale ==

	Hi. You probably have it watchlisted, but thought I'd drop you a note anyway. I just closed ] as not moved, but as I said in my close, feel free to start a new RM as soon as you want. Cheers, ] (]) 12:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Brand New disambiguation ==

	I appreciate your help, but be careful to . Thanks, ] (]) 02:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
	:Damn. Semi-brainless typing loses again. ] (]) 02:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Hi Dicklyon ==

	Would you be interested to help me on this project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/Global_Economic_Map

	I am trying to duplicate this economic report for all 196 countries. Would you be willing to contribute by duplicating this model for another country?

	United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

	China: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/sandbox

	] (]) 05:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

	:No, no time for that. Good luck on it. ] (]) 05:43, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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	==Wine grape caps discussion==
	Hi Dicklyon, we've butted heads in disagreement over capitalization issues before, so I think nobody can accuse me of ] by posting this. A RM discussion that currently involves only the participants of WikiProject Wine is ongoing regarding capitalizing the names of wine grapes. See ] and especially ]. Your contribution of your knowledge regarding the application of ], Ngram, etc. might benefit the discussion. Thanks. ~] <small>(])</small> 20:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Demographics of Tibet ==

	I am puzzled by your edit summary : "let the discussion play out". What discussion? ] does not even exist. Can you please let me know where the discussion is taking place? --] (] Russ) 21:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
	: Oh, never mind, I found it. --] (] Russ) 21:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Frame ==

	Re ] - there is a very similar proposal at ] which might be of interest. ] (]) 13:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

	== Belated thanks for good advice ==

	Hi, Dicklyon! I want to thank you for some good advice you gave me back in November: "Let others speak." You were quite right that I had been dominating that conversation almost as badly as B2C. It's been a hard habit to break; if I'm the first one to see a comment I want to reply immediately. But I have found that if I wait a few hours or half a day before replying, very often someone else will make the same point as well or better. I've certainly found that to be the case at the ]. So, please consider that comment of yours to have been bread cast upon the waters; you never know when a casual comment may make a difference to someone. Just wanted to give you that feedback. --] (]) 02:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
	:You're welcome, and thanks for all your efforts at keeping WP professional. I learned that same lesson the hard way. Pausing is better; let B2C or Apteva be the loud troublemaker, rather than letting yourself be dragged in by their trolling and stupidities, and things become more clear... ] (]) 05:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

	== AE ==

	See ] ] (]) 07:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

	== M or m ==

	Hi,

	Your opinion about would be appreciated.--] (]) 07:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

	:Those would need to be considered individually. Some may be proper names. ] (]) 14:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
	::Thanks.--] (]) 19:16, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

	== ] writers in some European languages ==

	Good morning Mr Dick Lyon,<br />Apologies for my anglicising revision to ''Dash'' made yesterday. Careless of me to have not noticed that it was within a quotation. Thank you for reverting me.<br />Sincerely,<br />{{mdash}} ]]]\|{{mdash}}08:19, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

	== The difference ==

			==New topics==
	The difference between what I ask of you and what I did on ] is that you make specific/personal remarks about specific people on article/WP pages, and I'm asking you not to do that. My comments were general and impersonal, and made no mention of anyone in particular. Note that my ''ignore the signature'' rule applies - my comment stands without regard to who made the comment to which I was replying. If you observed and adhered to that same line, I would not have an issue with your commentary. --]2] 23:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
	:So if I refer to the small group of one usual suspect who pushes for minimalist titles, that would be OK, because I could avoid your name? Seems silly to me. ] (]) 23:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
	::Depends on the context. If your comment would not make sense in reply to my same words but made by someone else, then it would not be okay. And I'm of course not the only one. Consensus is with me on this, title after title, with few exceptions, usually when special circumstances apply. --]2] 00:37, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

			;Add new topics at the bottom please.
	== Luminosity.png ==

	]

			== Happy New Year! ==
	Hi Dick,
	I am presently trying to grasp the basics of photometrics, and have come across your Luminosity.png. Please could I ask you to complete the graph by labelling the quantities and units of the axes ? Many thanks ! ] (]) 04:31, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

			]
	:If you click the image you can find its description, which includes links to the data sources for the plots. The abscissa is wavelength in nm, and the ordinate is relative sensitivity (that is, relative to the most sensitive wavelength, which is plotted at 1.0). The different curves are scotopic sensitivity (rod-cell sensitivity) in green and three different estimates of photopic sensitivity (which should be some linear combination of cone-cell sensitivities) in black. The curves of relative sensitivity can be compared for shape, but not for height, since each is self-normalized; rods are much more sensitive than cones. Probably the caption at the article where you found it has more info. The info page links 4 en articles that use it, so maybe they don't all have great captions, so try the others. ] (]) 04:45, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
			To all my talk friends. ] (]) 02:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:14, 1 January 2025

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Barnstars and such

		The Original Barnstar
		I'm not sure why you haven't picked up a bevy of these already, but thanks for all your effort, particularly in tracking down good sources with diagrams, etc., on the photography- and color-related articles (not to mention fighting vandalism). Those areas of Misplaced Pages are much richer for your work. Cheers! —jacobolus (t) 02:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		To Dicklyon on the occasion of your photograph of Ivan Sutherland and his birthday! What a great gift. -User:SusanLesch 04:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

		All Around Amazing Barnstar
		For your hard work in improving and watching over the Ohm's law article SpinningSpark 00:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For your improvements to the Centrifugal force articles. Your common sense approach of creating a summary-style article at the simplified title, explaining the broad concepts in a way that is accessible to the general reader and linking to the disambiguated articles, has provided Misplaced Pages's readership with a desperately needed place to explain in simple terms the basic concepts involved in understanding these related phenomena. Wilhelm_meis (talk) 14:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

		The Surreal Barnstar
		For your comment here which at once admits your own errors with humility yet focusses our attention upon the real villain Egg Centric (talk) 17:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For your great contribution to Misplaced Pages in adding pictures and illustrations to articles improving the reader's experience by adding a visual idea to the written information.--Xaleman87 (talk) 05:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

	The Special Barnstar
	I could not find a barnstar for standing up to an outrageously unjust block so you get a special one. Hang in there. В²C ☎ 23:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

	The Resilient Barnstar
	For your work in standardising article titles in line with the now consistent MOS:JR guidance, I present you this accolade. Your continued work in this regard, and in others, has been appreciated. It may have taken years, but much was accomplished. RGloucester — ☎ 14:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For an eternity of super-gnoming at WP:Requested moves to rein in entire swathes of article-titling chaos and bring them into order. I'm sure it can seem thankless work at times, so thanks! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ< 19:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Misplaced Pages Editor Retention Project)

User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

It is said by many that A picture is worth a thousand words. Misplaced Pages articles are vastly improved and enhanced by the use of images. Dicklyon's user page displays just some of the over 500 images he has added to Misplaced Pages articles making the articles more enjoyable and interesting for our most important commodity, our reader. WP:Photography. He is a long-time veteran editor with over 137000 edits (58% in mainspace) who always uses the edit summary to clarify his edits and communicate his intentions to following editors. He also participates in various timely and important WP:Manual of Style discussions to improve what and how we do things around here. A trusted, productive and helpful editor that deserves recognition as an Editor of the Week.

The Original Barnstar

I've started to note the many scholarly contributions of this author, beginning with editing of the Misplaced Pages Cintel pages. For images and vision, I've had a lifelong career in color grading for feature films, tv commercials, videos, etc. with telecine and other systems worldwide; as a musician, 'Human and Machine Hearing' will certainly be fascinating. Thank you to Richard F. Lyon for providing the PDF of this work to all.

Lingelbach (talk) 22:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

		Fighting the Good Fight Barnstar
		For resisting those who would like Misplaced Pages’s capitalization rules to resemble a corporate brochure or a government press release —Wallnot (talk) 02:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	This is for your really thorough clean up after the Armenian genocide move discussion. My watchlist is full of your edits since days. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	Thank you! Biggerj1 (talk) 15:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

that's for these hacks:

	The Minor barnstar
	SO MANY MINOR EDITS! Thank you for your work. -ASHEIOU (THEY/THEM • TALK) 19:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

There we go again, commenting on the quantity of my edits instead of the quality. But minor thanks anyway. Dicklyon (talk) 00:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

New topics

Add new topics at the bottom please.

Happy New Year!

To all my talk friends. Dicklyon (talk) 02:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)