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== Evidence submission closed for ''DangerousPanda'' arbitration case ==
== TP clearing ==
{{Archive-top|1=Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution ''in absentia'' is the lowest of the low. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)}}
Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
:Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at ]). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance . Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at ]. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask ] what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, ] (]) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
::I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. ] (]) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
*Panda, I agree with Ed. ] (]) 06:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
::: {{replyto|Drmies}} {{replyto|EdJohnston}} {{replyto|John Carter}} Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month ''before'' he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
**FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) ] (]) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


* Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent <s>hounding</s> pursuing you that you are too <s>nauseated</s> worn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history of <s>hounding</s> pursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins. Regarding you made to an IP editor regarding their declined block request, you were incorrect that they were not allowed to remove that content from their own talk page. Actually, the removal of those comments was neither improper nor required for patrolling admins, as you claimed. Please see on the editor's talk page, which shows my explanation. Sorry for the interference in this matter. I've never crossed paths with that editor and their talk page seems to indicate an ongoing pattern of inappropriate behavior, but I felt it was important to contact you regarding the talk page-clearing guidelines. Thanks. --] (]) 10:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
**Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a '''''contributor''''' in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a '''''free-rider''''', using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually '''''improving the encyclopedia;''''' if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.<p>One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of ''quid pro quo'' whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.<p>Certainly, what we should '''''not''''' be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When '''''real contributors''''' disagree with other real contributors, '''''those''''' are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when '''''free-riders''''' like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. ] (]) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
: It's been held by the community that an editor may not remove comments ''related'' to the block - the blocking admin has a responsibility to be accountable, and explain their block as well. As such, the IP cannot remove the comments related to the block. (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 11:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
**:Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("{{tq|they should be gotten rid of}}"), Mr. Big Stuff!? ] (]) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
::"It's been held by the community"? Do you have evidence to support that statement? I'm sorry, but ] and ] are very clear on this matter and I've seen many admins who validate it, such as ] did on IP 68's talk page. In fact, you're the first admin I've ever seen who's opposed it. The list of exceptions on what ''cannot'' be removed is limited and specific. If an editor removes a warning, that removal constitutes acknowledgement of its receipt. Again, I realize that IP 68 appears to be causing quite a lot of problems, but it's important that no editor is ever improperly accused of violating any rules. --] (]) 11:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
***Re: "Mr. Big Stuff" Ouch, '''''that''''' hurt. What are you, 10? ] (]) 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
::The only items related to a block that an editor cannot remove are block notices for a ''currently active'' block and declined unblock requests for a ''currently active'' block. But any comments outside those absolutely may be removed. --] (]) 11:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. --] (]) 03:56, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
:::: I see that went brilliantly for you (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 19:52, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


== A cookie for you! == == Your Arb Case ==


Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still ''needed'' here. <span style="font-family: MV Boli;">]]</span> 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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:Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them.
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:Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom.
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Being an administrator can be one hell of a job, but you always take out the trash and do right. Now you get a reward for it {{=)}} Enjoy. ]<sup>(]/])</sup> 20:32, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
:Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. ] (]) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? ] (]) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
:Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```]<small>]</small> 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of '''choosing''' to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating ''until I'm back at home''? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually ''available'' with Misplaced Pages actually being ''accessible'' to me! <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
::TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. ] (]) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
*DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
:* Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, ] (]) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

== Happy Holidays! ==

Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! ] (] 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:
I think it is best if you stay away from it now. My block has expired, regardless of what either of us think of how it was handled - nothing either of us say now will change that. ] (]) 00:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
: You do recognize that I am actually trying to ''help'', right? (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 19:54, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
:: Trying, yes, but I don't believe picking over the bones is doing either of us any favours. I think you are getting bogged down in your belief that you are right and I am wrong; and if there were no grey areas, my unblock request would have been quickly declined. How is it helping to continue to argue the toss now that the block has expired? ] (]) 10:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


{{ivmbox|1=1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, {{user|DangerousPanda}} is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful ].}}
== May 2013 ==


For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
] Please do not ] other editors. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-npa2 --> Edits like are inappropriate, particularly from an administrator. --] (]) 14:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
:Nothing wrong with being thumped like a narc at a biker rally. ] <small>(])</small> 16:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::It happens pretty frequently at ANI. ] <small>(])</small> 17:42, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::: Besides, I'm not sure where that even remotely resembles a personal attack. For someone who ''pretends'' to have some degree of a clue, there's a massive amount of cluelessness done by the IP (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 22:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::::] Please ] other editors. If you continue, you may be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. <!-- Template:uw-npa3 --> I'll ask you again to please stop your personal insults as you did with , which is a clear violation of ]. The policy states that "Belittling an editor's intelligence, knowledge, command of the English language, talent, or competence" is considered a personal attack. It is regrettable that you don't understand why your was insulting. As an administrator, I would hope that you would set a proper example by treating other editors in a civil manner, and deescalating any tensions that may be present, rather than increasing them. Thank you. --] (]) 23:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I think 76 is just trolling at this point. ] <small>(])</small> 23:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: Agreed wholeheartedly. ] and ] can only be taken so far. (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 07:02, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


::Merry Christmas! ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
== A beer for you! ==


*Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from ] - the latter being in accordance with ]. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. ] 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Ok, I give up....you've beaten me again at Talk:Refund (I would have only mailed the external links), so I'll go and have a beer myself now. Cheers. ] (]) 11:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
**Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment , I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. ] (]) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
::: (removed from inside archived area) {{replyto|John Carter}} I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until '''after''' they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
::So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
::: You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
::::''Intent'' being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
* You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. ] (]) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ]] 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

*Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. ] &#124; ] 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

*Hi DP, I'm sorry to see that was how it went. ArbCom is a big black box to me, but for what little it's worth, I'm shocked and saddened. ] (]) 20:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

*DP, {{U|HJ Mitchell|Harry}} has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --] (]) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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== Re creating page ==

I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I'd ] and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his ]. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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== Stub barnstar userbox ==

Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the ]. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. ] (]) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Montreal, Mar 15. 2015

Hi

I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down.

I'm doing so now.

Cheers

Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== ] ==

Hey, remember that ] for {{user5|Jimmy McDaniels}}? He's back as {{user5|104.12.136.213}} and violating the ban. ] (]) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== ] ==
I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. ] (] / ]) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

== Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman ==

Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per ]. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? ] <sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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: LOL ... I'll save the beer until lunch-time (although ... time ''is'' an illusion; lunch-time doubly so). I suppose I was too damned lazy to simply strip out the links, and e-mailing contents didn't seem to be hurting anyone (yet). Cheers! (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 11:17, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
::Well, it is a bit past lunch time here, so I'll go and enjoy a ]. ] (]) 11:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:::You're better stocked than I am currently, Lectonar. Enjoy. ] (]) 16:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


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Can you tell me why you chose to ignore the point made by WaltCip in incident? And having looked around at how others reported at ANI are treated for similar episodes, is there any reason why I shouldn't think that your treatment of my case was out of the ordinary, and seemingly designed simply to lock me up and throw away the key, on the basis that it was likely nobody would notice/care beyond that sort of single comment at ANI, and that rather than persisting with the ponderous and mentally abusive unblock process that you put me in, that I would probably just take Jehochman's advice anyway if I ever wanted to return. ] (]) 12:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
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== Peterzor == ==Belated thanks==
Hi,
I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of ] and
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== ] ==
The guy just admitted to being a sock of a banned user . What are you going to do about it? --] (]) 10:20, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
: Wow. Do you realize the ''attitude'' that your post reads with? Why approach me? The post was made in the middle of ] with dozens of admins reading it ... why single me out? (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 10:58, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
::Wow, why the apparent paranoia? You where the first admin to comment at the top of the ANI thread, so why wouldn't I approach you. Really, I didn't know there were "dozens" of admins were reading it, I had the opposite impression. Could have been an easy uncontroversial block for you, but someone else has beaten you to it. Shrug. Anyway the matter appears resolved now. --] (]) 19:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
:::I don't see any paranoia from Bwilkins, but Nug, you did come across quite dickish. Most administrators would probably have a similar reaction. ] <small>(])</small> 20:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
:Nug, most people don't like being treated like a jukebox, where you can shove in a coin and demand instant gratification. Admins are no exception. Most admin enjoy helping others, but when it gets demanded, like here "''What are you going to do about it?''", it is a bit annoying. Any admin can refuse to take action in a case, just like any editor can refuse to edit any article they don't want to. In both cases, asking politely is more likely to get the result you are looking for. As for "''but someone else has beaten you to it''", we don't get paid by the block nor get extra health points for them. It isn't a game. ] / ] / ] / ] / <small>]</small> 16:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


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Hello, it seems that {{User|Darkness Shines}} is continually attempting (and succeeding) to edit by proxy, posting diffs on his user talk page for attention by others. , , . While I cannot find another example further in the past, it seems to me that I complained about this before, perhaps to a different admin, a few months ago. It is developing as a pattern that disturbs me. There is policy against this activity by banned users, I am not sure how it applies to blocked users, but surely it cannot be permitted either? Your feedback would be appreciated. ] (]) 20:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
: Oh, I'm watching his talkpage - I know what he's doing alright. You're right though, there's a policy against ''banned'' editors, but formally not blocked editors that I know of. However, one could make the argument that the only reason one has access to one's talkpage while blocked is to compose unblock requests - but it's a tough argument. A discussion on the talkpage of the blocking policy might lead to some form of consensus against proxy-editing. Nevertheless, someone who tries to edit by proxy has some inflated sense of self-worth, and a belief that the project "cannot do without them" while they're blocked - if that were truly the case, then an editor would work hard to ''not'' become blocked, wouldn't they? It's pretty distasteful nonetheless, and is a slap in the face to well-behaved editors everywhere (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 21:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm ] (]) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


* Greater Armenia - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-cBSdyVTYxbs8M%3A
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In closing you forgot to include the XfD part of the ban... Not sure if you realize that was part of it as well. Thanks for your time. ] (]) 13:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
: Fixed (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 17:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:: Thanks. Despite my attempts to try and help people like that, apparently some are just incapable or unwilling to get it and take what they can get for help. It's sad... Anyways, happy editing! ] (]) 16:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
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How was there consensus for deletion? There was:
* 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong
* 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong
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By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. ] I have no ideas for what to put here. ] 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Nth User}} I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. ]] 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki.
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Hi Bwilkins..Since some time ] has been creating pages on imaginary ] movies. He makes up this movie titles and pages look bit convincing NewPagePatroler so the pages are marked as reviewed. But whenever I try to find references, I always fail to locate even a single reference. I am myself a ], so can see if the reference is available in the local language. Most of these pages have been speedy deleted as hoaxes. One I have PRODed. Plus he has created some BLP pages, some of which have been deleted or are presently nominated (due to lack of notability). In nutshell out of some 15 pages he has created, only 2-3 seems to survive. I have tried to communicated with him in every possible way, but he is not responding to talkpage messages. Can this user be blocked or reported for introducing inappropriate pages. If yes, where to report him?--<font size="3" face="Corsiva Hebrew" color="green">Vigyani</font><sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 03:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


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== DS and RP ==
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== Draft: Vaibhav Maloo ==
{{UT|RegentsPark}} unblocked Darkness Shines. RP is involved with ''me'' in multiple heated discussions and he ''knows'' that I am right now the reason for DS's block. Regentspark is, in my opinion, also involved with DS in various discussions and it seems odd, to say the least, that of all the admins RP chose to see an allusion towards the demerits of the block as an expression of "remorse", that too after multiple declines of unblock request by DS. He is as unrepentant as ever. I don't see where he regretted derogatorily labelling someone (like me). Anyways, RP should not have been the one to unblock DS from a serious block such as this. I have to look askance at . ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 16:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
:I hate to have to piddle on your fireworks but you were not the reason for my block, I was. ] (]) 17:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
: This looks like a pretty bogus complaint. However, if you really insist, I'm quite happy to block DS again and then unblock him, though of course I would have to mention your complaint in the block log, which probably wouldn't do you any favours if there are future issues. ] (]) 17:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
: I would also suggest that MrT is quite fortunate to not have been blocked himself, based on the overall circumstances - and the blocks likely would have matched in length. As much as I'm not 100% happy with RP's unblock, it appears to be the "lesser of 2 weevils" right now - and further provocation/similar actions by either party will not end well (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 17:47, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
;Recidivism or what?
will others still say that it's me who should thank own luck for escaping the block? Really? ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 17:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:: Someone else's incivility does not excuse your own (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 17:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Mr. Bwilkins, pardon me if I have given away wrong impression. I don't wish to sound as a person who defends fallacious arguments, I have never said, even for a moment, that "someone else's incivility excuses my own" because that would be hypocritical. But since you said, "further provocation/similar actions by either party will not end well" I thought I'd check it with you. I, for one, do not think I have been uncivil with DS in this case. I don't like being uncivil, perhaps nobody does. ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 18:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. ] — ]
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Hey, I have respect for you and your suggestions. That being said I do firmly believe that people learn by doing. I also believe that the best leaders are those that lead by example. I appreciate your answer to my question, even if I would have expected it on my talk page. I will try to ask those kinds of questions on UT: pages in the future. Thank you for your time. ] (]) 12:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
: Learning requires not repeating the mistakes. Learning means understanding that a new thread is not appropriate because you recognize it's not a discussion forum. Learning means that you don't do more damage and know when to leave well-enough alone. You failed pretty miserably on all 3, and as such, the self-imposed topic ban is the right step - it would be quite easy to have it formalized based on how badly you messed up (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 17:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:: I have no intentions to avoid commenting my observations (although often very obvious) on other discussions on AN (although I usually try to avoid that page to begin with) where I see fit. I will however refrain from opening any new discussions unless it is a last resort. I've been <s>told</s> informed by {{U|Dennis Brown}} that "History has shown that the community is usually unwilling to consider 3rd party requests and they aren't supported in policy." I'm sure I totally understand why this is, as having a 3rd party request is the requirement for the ], although I do not doubt that his words are fact. I will attempt, as I said above to be more mindful of my comments on AN (when I make them). Anyways, I hope you have a nice day and I look forward to possibly having your support on my RfA when I submit it (I'm expecting to make a first attempt in about six months, and after reading all of the documentation and historic results of said process expect to be denied the first few times). Happy editing! ] (]) 18:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Standard offers are generally only accepted first party. The vast majority of blocked editors do not have talk page access revoked, so they are done via the talk page. Having an editor copy their text over to WP:AN isn't considered 3rd party, it is proxy editing, which is completely different. Editors with blocked talk page access can apply for the standard offer via ], which can be handled there or again relayed to WP:AN and is again, not a 3rd party request, just a copy/paste service. I think this is why there are some concerns, Technical. There are a lot of nuances to policy that aren't obvious at a glance. One of those is knowing when to use the editor's talk page instead of ANI to ask a question, for example, when that question wouldn't be adding to the discussion and might serve only as a distraction. At ANI, words are the enemy, and the goal is to solve problems using the least amount you can, else the discussion goes off on tangents. I'm not saying you should avoid all interaction at AN/ANI, but it is an easy place to develop a bad reputation as it is a very public place. Mistakes don't go unnoticed there and have a way of haunting an editor at RfA. I caution you as I would any editor who shows a sudden interest in the ugly and dangerous neighborhood that is AN/ANI. Of course, you are free to ignore my advice if you like, it is just that: advice. ] / ] / ] / ] 18:23, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:::: Oh, thank you for clarifying that {{U|Dennis Brown|Dennis}}, based on discussions of {{Noping|Paramsinghantaal}}'s conditions on either mine or {{U|Writ Keeper}}'s talk page (IIRC) I guess I misunderstood ] to be 3rd party. I actually try to avoid AN(I) as much as I can, although it may not seem like it. I'm a really good hearted person that has pure intentions of wanting to help others, and I know I sometimes let it get the best of me. Like I said above, I don't intend to strictly self-impose an AN(I) topic ban on myself, and if someone felt that it is really necessary to formalize the suggestion that it should exist, I wouldn't hold it against them or be overly upset about it. I am really easy to get along with once you get to know me a little, and if I say something out of line, I actually appreciate those that take the time to leave some constructive criticism on my talk page. ] (]) 19:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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:::::And I only have good things to say about you and know you have the best of intentions. It is why I bothered to offer the advice. ANI is full of trolls, Wikilawyers and grumpy old men with block buttons, I wouldn't wish it on my enemy. That is why I patrol it, as I'm generally immune to the attacks and have skin as thick as leather. Like I said, there is a great deal of nuance to how things are done here and I don't claim to have half of it figured out myself. I had 18,000 edits over 5.5 years before I felt I was educated enough on policy to seek the admin bit. Maybe I'm dense, or just cautious, but rushing into these things seldom works out well. ] / ] / ] / ] 19:20, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::<small>Bwilkins is the troll, I'm the wikilawyer, and Dennis is the grumpy old man, if you're wondering. ]&nbsp;]] 19:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC) '''''PS: THAT WAS A JOKE <3'''''</small>
::::::: <small>I'm assuming the PS part was directed at me due to the OMS thing, and I know a joke when I smell one... You guys should get an air freshener in here. ] (]) 19:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)</small>
::::::::<small>Actually, it was directed at Bwilkins, since, 'yknow, I called him a troll. (Dennis knows he's a grumpy old man at heart, despite his peacemaker-of-the-wiki exterior. ]&nbsp;]] 19:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)</small>
::::::::::<small>Did you say Dennis has a ''pacemaker''?? *snicker* (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 20:15, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::<small>I would argue BWilkins is the grumpy old man. I'm not even 50 years old yet. That kind of grumpiness takes at least 70 years. Probably wears his pants all the way up to his armpits. ;-) He is right, however. Grumpy, but right. ] / ] / ] / ] 19:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC) </small>
:::::::::::<small>I'm likely younger than you - old man LOL (]<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">]</span>]) 20:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Evidence submission closed for DangerousPanda arbitration case

Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution in absentia is the lowest of the low. the panda ₯’ 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence/RFCU). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance here. Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask User:Callanecc what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. John Carter (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
@Drmies: @EdJohnston: @John Carter: Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month before he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
    • FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) BMK (talk) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent hounding pursuing you that you are too nauseated worn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history of hounding pursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. Jehochman 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a contributor in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a free-rider, using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually improving the encyclopedia; if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.

      One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of quid pro quo whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.

      Certainly, what we should not be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When real contributors disagree with other real contributors, those are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when free-riders like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. BMK (talk) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

      Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("they should be gotten rid of"), Mr. Big Stuff!? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Your Arb Case

Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still needed here. Dusti 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them.
Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom.
Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. John Carter (talk) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? GoodDay (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of choosing to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating until I'm back at home? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually available with Misplaced Pages actually being accessible to me! the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
  • DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, PhilKnight (talk) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! EdnaClyde (talk 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

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Happy editing,
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Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda closed

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:

1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, DangerousPanda (talk · contribs) is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.

For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. the panda ₯’ 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! Lugnuts 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from 7SeriesBOT - the latter being in accordance with the bot policy. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. Acalamari 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
    • Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment here, I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. John Carter (talk) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
(removed from inside archived area) @John Carter: I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until after they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) the panda ₯’ 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. Lugnuts 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate the panda ₯’ 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Intent being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... Lugnuts 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  • You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ekips39 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  • DP, Harry has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Heather Morris (voice actress) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Heather Morris (voice actress) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Heather Morris (voice actress) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. LADY LOTUSTALK 15:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Re creating page

I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanoop robert (talkcontribs) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I'd be bold and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his socks. Lugnuts 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Due to your conflict of interest you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet the minimum criteria for a stand alone article, you can request that someone make it for you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Stub barnstar userbox

Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the barnstar user boxes you made. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. Freikorp (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry

Montreal, Mar 15. 2015

Hi

I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down.

I'm doing so now.

Cheers

Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonbo0422 (talkcontribs) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Jason Leopold

Hey, remember that topic ban for Jimmy McDaniels (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? He's back as 104.12.136.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and violating the ban. Skyerise (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

WP:Missing Wikipedians

I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman

Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Silver Giorgio Armani dress of Cate Blanchett. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? Valoem 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Invitation

I'd like to invite you to join the WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards Dfrr (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedians by degree

Hi, Category:Wikipedians by degree is a container cat (subcats only). Please consider a more specific subcat if you wish to categorize User:DangerousPanda. Thanks, Slivicon (talk) 18:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Gregaga

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Belated thanks

Hi, I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of Criticism of Nortel and the Nortel deleted wikiproject. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Turkish Kurdistan

Hi, Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm Antmqr (talk) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Greyhound-Syfa listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Greyhound-Syfa. Since you had some involvement with the Greyhound-Syfa redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Aoidh (talk) 09:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Official page / website

You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website."

I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talkcontribs) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Official page / website

The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talkcontribs) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Official page / website

The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talkcontribs) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Thefinalmiracle, DangerousPanda left Misplaced Pages two years ago. Could I be of any help to you? Zero 15:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, April 2017

Bots Newsletter, April 2017

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Since you've been inactive since 2014, I've removed you from the subscription list. Feel free to re-add yourself to the newsletter if you become active again though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:38, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Pocomail for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pocomail until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Hi, In 2012 you tried to help me understand how Misplaced Pages works when I wanted to add a page for someone I felt was misrepresented in the Misplaced Pages pages. I've been away due to illness for sometime, but coming back I still wasn't clear. I have reviewed the notes you made for me at that time and also have had support from the WP community. I am going to keep adding pages when I can now, as am working with people who need the help (COI clearly declared!). I just wanted to say thank you for your patience and to let you know I appreciated the time you took to try to explain. I have only created one article so far, and it has needed help but the next one I have a better understanding I think, even though I think I may have moved it not reading the words tools for reviewers:) So sorry about that. But thanks again for your help. Ackee123 (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

About your deletion of 2012-13 U.S. winter storm season

How was there consensus for deletion? There was:

  • 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong
  • 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong
  • 1 rename, 1 of which was strong
  • 1 comment, 0 of which were strong

It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus. By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. The N User I have no ideas for what to put here. Care to differ or discuss? 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@The Nth User: I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. SkyWarrior 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Unblock an

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Marcos Caballero and Lelo Sejean

Hello. Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki. Respectfully. Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro, Dangerous Panda has not edited Misplaced Pages in over 5 years. You may want to create the articles in Draft space - Draft:Marcos Caballero and Draft:Lelo Sejean and go through the WP:AFC process, especially given one of them was deleted after a discussion. Ravensfire (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:33, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Ontario Country Performer and Fan Association for deletion

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Draft: Vaibhav Maloo

Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. User:DangerousPandaUser :Nuttyprofessor2016

(talk page stalker) @Nuttyprofessor2016: I don't have context for what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure you won't be getting a response from him. He's been off Misplaced Pages for 7 or 8 years. Toddst1 (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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