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You did not respond to my last entry (5/31/13) re the ] photos. Here is it, below. What do you think of allowing 3 of the 7 images you removed? (the 3 are discussed below, in my talk entry of 5/31/13). Thank you. | |||
== MACHINE GUNS PICTURES == | |||
*For all of them, I would say that they illustrate the specific material in the article. Each image (including every ballplayer) corresponds exactly to the text, with no commercial infringement or negative usage of the images. The three images I believe are especially pertinent are: | |||
Hello I have found some scans of Italian machine guns of WWII they are from old flying-book of an aicraft, the book has been printed more than 80 years ago, can we posted on the pages? | |||
:::File:LBPRC.png -- because an entire section is devoted to it. The article is about baseball in Puerto Rico, and this is the logo of their league. | |||
Thanks --] (]) 11:13, 17 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::File:Satchel Paige.jpg -- because Satchel Paige's participation was a historic event in Puerto Rican baseball. | |||
Gian | |||
:::File:Criollos de Caguas logo.png -- because it illustrates one of the major teams, and there is no commercial infringement or negative usage of the image. | |||
*? Pictures of Italian machine guns from WWII from a book published no later than 1934 (80 years ago)? That's an interesting trick. :) Can you clarify please? Also note, this editor has been indefinitely blocked. In the future, you may wish to consider other avenues for getting questions like this answered. --] (]) 15:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
* {{tps}} If Italy is the country of first publication, then you can typically use {{tl|PD-Italy}}. Of course, WWII pictures can't have been published more than 80 years ago. In the future, use ] for questions like this. --] (]) 15:30, 18 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
:* Thanks Stefan, especially for the link to MCQ. Not enough coffee this morning. --] (]) 15:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
* If it's a photo of the M1928 version of the ] (some redirects need fixing there) on an aircraft, then it would be possible both for the photo to be taken in 1934, ''and'' for the machine gun to have been used in WW2. Thus being a "machine gun of WWII". Possibly the Italians only ''ever'' used ] (introduced 1935) and later developments on aircraft in WWII, but I've seen no assertion of that. --] (]) 22:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 02:48, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:From what you are saying the images themselves are not important, they just illustrates something on the page that refers to the image. Also in each of those points you could just link to said other articles and not need the files. ] (]) 02:51, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hallo, I wonder what your basis is for edits like , where you add spaces either side of every pipe and equals sign in a template. Is there any rule, guideline or consensus, or is it just your personal preference? If there is any rule or guideline, then the people responsible for the "cite" button should be told, as that button generates citations without spaces. I'm genuinely curious about this question - see ], where I raised it a few days ago, before your edit. ]] 12:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. You deleted this image (File:Crozier, Edinburgh from Salisbury Crags.jpg) from my sandbox with this (as well as, rather oddly changing a number of my references). The image is in fact not in copyright and is now on the Commons with the same name. I wonder, do you know a way in which I can bypass the fair use version and access the Commons version and get around this problem?--<span style="font-family:Black Chancery;text:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">''']''' (]) 16:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:I have adjusted the licensing issues so it wont be an issue again. AWB, the tool I used for removing the file cleaned up the references. It uses ] to prevent duplication and excessive reference lists. ] (]) 16:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::Many thanks. I assume that means I can now use the file again in personal space. Much appreciated. In the use of AWB, it may be difficult to turn off, but it is probably not appropriate in a user sandbox, where there is work in progress. Thanks again.--<span style="font-family:Black Chancery;text:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">''']''' (]) 16:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hi! I was just wondering why my page was altered without my knowledge/consent? I understand there was some issue with the format, but what are the specifics here? Thanks. ] ] ]] 20:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:Several points, Please remove the Flag icon from your signiture per ], two please fix the formatting. Three ] is a non-free file and per ] it cannot be used on your user page, and that is why it was removed. | |||
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::It's been changed. I decided to go with something a little different. Thank you, though. Let me know if there's anything else. <span style="font: 12px Microsoft YaHei;text-shadow:0 1px 5px #808080">]]</span> 04:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, a quick question regarding images of products. I just want to get your thoughts on photographs of products with regards to whether or not they should be uploaded under ]? This issue seems to be an ambiguous one with some people, such as my self, uploading it under WP:NFC licence and others uploading them under a creative commons licence. | |||
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Additionally I am going to re-add the picture of ] as I feel that it does adhere to ] but will for the mean time not re-add the others. Additionally I maintain that all images that you removed adhere to ] by significantly increasing readers' understanding of the company and its staple of brands by illustrating those brands in the same way other pages such as ]. It seems arbitrary that some companies, most notably Western ones, such as Quaker Oats can illustrate their products whilst equally well known brands in their own countries, such as Jungle Oats, can not.--] (]) 10:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:Lets break this down by image. You cited as a example page. It contains exactly two non-free files. The main logo and a single product example. Tiger Brands has 7. | |||
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** Those are all hidden in collapsed columns just listing the associated brands. Thus failing ] second clause. See also ] and ] | |||
***That is what I thought your concern was and I am not so sure of how important the issue of whether or not it should be treated is or if it does in fact means that it qualifies as a fail of ]. Perhaps this is an issue that we should get other opinions on or find some precedence? | |||
****] and ] are in fact fairly clear about not allowing this usage. ] (]) 12:51, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
*****So if I were to get rid of the drop down so that the text was clearly shown that would make it acceptable?--] (]) 14:22, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
******No. ] (]) 14:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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** Same as above just not collapsed. | |||
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** There is zero sourced cometary about either part of that image. Without sourced cometary how can it pass #8? | |||
*** I am a bit confused, there seems to be source cometary about both parts. Perhaps I was not clear when I wrote it. I have now made some adjustments to clarify on the photograph.--] (]) 11:33, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
****For me the file is floating under the infobox next to the sections labeled "Adcock Ingram Critical Care" and "Brands" at that point its not being referenced by the text. ] (]) 12:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
*****Please don't take this the wrong way but I find that a bit pedantic.--] (]) 14:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
******Talking a look at the article text there is one sentence about Jungle Oats ''Tiger Brand's first product was a breakfast oatmeal brand called Jungle Oats'' There are zero sources about any visual design, and nothing about the changes in the 2010 version. That just isnt enough to meet the requirements of ] ] (]) 14:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
*******I am not so sure of that interpretation of and feel that it is an overly strict and possibly pedantic interpretation of ]. I have no objections to adding information and references to the design in the article however I do want to discuss this seemly different interpretation of WP:NFCC#8 that we both have. I would also point out that the article on ] also has images of packaging prominently displayed with no information in the text on the visual design of the product. Indeed one could compile quite a list of product related articles where this is the case. I am trying to eliminate the possibility of this being the result of a ] which so often afflicts Africa related articles.--] (]) 20:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
********Its not any kind of bias, taking a look at ] it only contains two non-free files, which are of the packaging of subject of the article. ] is about a packaging company. Having their primary logo is all that is needed to meet the visual identification usage. If the individual sub brands are notable then they should have their own article where said file can be used. Lets further examine ], its parent organization ] has two non-free files, the primary logo and one that I will be re-tagging as failing ]. When using a non-free file you should ask yourself why must I include this file? and Can the reader understand the article without this file? Right now ] does not need ], it is just being used for eye candy. ] (]) 20:28, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
*********That's a fair point.--] (]) 11:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::As for the free files on the example page, I have noticed that some of them are pictures of products. Does this mean, as I asked above, that I can resubmit these files under a free licence since I took the photographs?--] (]) 11:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::No, due to copyright issues. See ]. ] is just that of raw food, and cannot be copyrighted as that particular food stuff fails ] (there was no human input in the visual design of the food, it is just the result of mixing ingredients together with a non-uniform result). ] (]) 12:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::: Fair enough. These pictures are most similar to ] which seems to still have an unclear status in this regard.--] (]) 14:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC) |
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MACHINE GUNS PICTURES
Hello I have found some scans of Italian machine guns of WWII they are from old flying-book of an aicraft, the book has been printed more than 80 years ago, can we posted on the pages? Thanks --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 11:13, 17 November 2014 (UTC) Gian
- ? Pictures of Italian machine guns from WWII from a book published no later than 1934 (80 years ago)? That's an interesting trick. :) Can you clarify please? Also note, this editor has been indefinitely blocked. In the future, you may wish to consider other avenues for getting questions like this answered. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) If Italy is the country of first publication, then you can typically use {{PD-Italy}}. Of course, WWII pictures can't have been published more than 80 years ago. In the future, use WP:MCQ for questions like this. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:30, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Stefan, especially for the link to MCQ. Not enough coffee this morning. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- If it's a photo of the M1928 version of the M1926 machine gun (some redirects need fixing there) on an aircraft, then it would be possible both for the photo to be taken in 1934, and for the machine gun to have been used in WW2. Thus being a "machine gun of WWII". Possibly the Italians only ever used Breda-SAFAT machine gun (introduced 1935) and later developments on aircraft in WWII, but I've seen no assertion of that. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
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