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== hello ==


== May 2015 - Self-Requested Block ==
Hello Lucia forgives the bother but I am new in wikipedia I want to ask him as I can join the WikiProject Anime and manga
Greetings
--] (]) 18:44, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


per the original request , and subsequent discussion on their talk , I have blocked this account indefinitely.
:You dont need to ask to Join, its open to everyone. You can identify yourself as a member by pasting this <nowiki>{{User WP Anime}}</nowiki> onto your user page.] (]) 18:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


* At Lucia, I do hope that in time you will have a change of heart and wish to return. I do understand your feelings, and that is why I've honored your wishes with this block. I do wish you all the best. You are still free to post to your talk page.
== Your removal at Ghost in the Shell ==


* At any Admin. If at any time Lucia requests an unblock, please feel free to honor that without having to consult me.
Please do not revert productive and constructive edits as you did at ], I am in the process of updating it, and if you must take issue with the content itself please discuss it on the talk page. This page is for the media franchise, not the manga. They are different subjects and are to be treated as such. ] (]) 20:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
:: I put back the manga page... I was wondering why it was absent... ] (]) 20:37, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


* Unblock details can be found at: ] — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 01:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
==Talkback==
{{talkback|ChrisGualtieri|ts=20:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)}}
] (]) 20:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
: Again. ] (]) 21:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
:: Again. ] (]) 21:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
I do not need notifications.] (]) 21:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


:{{ping|Ched}} I am testing out the waters for now, so a temporary unblock. For now. I still fully intend to edit strictly with Japanese media content. ] (]) 15:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
== Ghost in the Shell ==


:: Done - and it's good to see you Lucia. I hope things go well for you. (and Happy Holidays). — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 15:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I undid you revert of ChrisGualitieri for the under construction tag removal. If a user wants to identify that they have the intentions to improve an article, it a best to assume faith and leave the tag present. Now secondly I advised Chris on the actions to take upon moving the nominator from on hold to failed as the article is not near a good quality for that status. Thirdly your opening of a RfC was inappropriate and the first cause of action should have been an actual discussion with Chris or getting a third party to review. ] (]) 23:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


==MfD nomination of ]==
== January 2013 ==
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<s>] Please stop your ]. If you continue to ] legitimate talk page comments, as you did at ], you may be ]. <!-- Template:uw-tpv3 --> ] (]) 23:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)</s> - Removed, it appears accidental on second view. ] (]) 06:30, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


== One Piece Wiki Link ==
:The discussion was posted in the talkage of the main article, not GAN. I was merely going to move it there. I will not be blocked for a misunderstanding.] (]) 23:27, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
:: You removed my post, it was proper there. You should not remove other people's posts. Oh and it was at the GA the whole time. So I don't know why you are moving it anyways.] (]) 23:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
::: The diff here shows it. You removed my comment from the review page.] (]) 23:36, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
::::This matter is starting to get out of hand. Chris has the intention to work on the article, no consensus is needed nor is a specific number of editors. Please leave the tag in place until Chris as finished as it serves as a source of information to other editors. ] (]) 00:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


I'm pursuing a One Piece Wiki link in the article ], and require your continued input in this discussion. ] (]) 20:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
==Talkback==
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== Reasons why a Japanese-media TBAN is not giving me much room ==
== FLCL merge ==
1) Anything tangent-related to Japanese media, is just media. And not all media hold the same rules, policies, sources, and structure. Its a long transition just to make significant edits until to prove to the community i can edit without issues. I think what many people fail to understand is how "Media" in general is such a different scope. Those that are inspired by Japanese related media aren't all treated the same way. For example:] is completely different from ].


2) For video game related content, i have absolutely no problem editing. The problem however is if the community wants to see me make significant contributions, then by all means. But WP:VG is saturated with help. Any article i want to work on is either impossible to find sources because A) they are older than the internet, B) obscure, or C) Japanese related content, and I've caught myself too many times almost breaking the TBAN because of it. Its a very taxing thing to constantly run into articles you have an interest in instinctively and then finding out that they fall into that category. I worked on ] not because it was Japanese, but it was a cute video game console, and thought it deserved some attention.
Do me a favor and post this to the Anime page, I can't believe this merge proposal has sat on an FL for this long. Your reasoning is right, so it won't be canvassing to discuss this at the relevant wikiproject. I can't close it as no consensus, but I just made a case for what should be done instead. That banner is an eyesore to me... ] (]) 06:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


3)We all know i can edit without problems with other members. The members I've worked with and had significant issues are all banned now. I personally thought they should've been banned a long time ago. As for me? There are members who know i can edit. And i know that even those who oppose know i can edit without issues. I'm trying to show it in AN. I also am trying my absolute best to not take any of the negative comments about me personally. Its a very difficult thing to do, because they are about me, and i'm only human. I learned. I don't want to argue with anyone. I just want to edit. But i also want to make "significant" contributions. I'm still willing to accept all the blame for what has happened in the past. I've learned. There are olive branches sent out to those i normally would never sent out in a heartbeat. When it comes to Indefinite bans, they get a 1-year interval without showing needing a single sign of proof of there improvement. TBANs don't have that requirement either. There is a reason why some feel this ban is controverial, its why it was fought multiple times. Whats the difference between back then and before? I'm not trying to "fight" it. I'm not trying to say its wrong, i'm just asking for some room where i can prove myself.
== Formal mediation has been requested ==
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I know those who work with both WP:VG and WP:ANIME know exactly what i mean. Its not exactly a straight forward Tban, and i know others are mentioning it as a very controversial ban too. So with that mind, all i'm asking is for some good-faith. ] (]) 15:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm not trying to argue or criticize at all, this is an honest question: If the topic ban is "Japanese media", can't you find a single United States/European developed video game to contribute to? I mean, I get it - I vastly prefer Japanese developed games too, and don't have much interest in other ones...but if I ''had'' to, I could certainly some non-Japanese ones. I created '']'', for example. Anyways, you could work on something like, '']'', has a ton of potential for expansion/splits/rewrites, certainly a ton of sources exist out there, and would not violate your topic ban. Anyways, maybe its something to think about. ] ] 16:14, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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::Assassin's Creed Chronicle is definitely one option and i'll definitely see what i can do with the article. If you can find me 4 or 2 more articles exactly like Assassin's Creed Chronicle, i will happily redact it. I'm still having a difficult time looking for games. The ones that come up in my head end up being Japanese or already GA-status. Or i don't see anything more significant i can do to improve it. Its not a matter of me seeing Japanese/non-Japanese games differently, its a matter of me having to find the games because i have relatively no knowledge of them. ] (]) 16:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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:::Okay, I will find some more suggestions in a bit. In the meantime, you could also look into the WP:VG request board. I forget the exact link, but it's somewhere at the project page. It's where people put up requests or suggestions for articles to create. In my opinion, there's a lot of junk there...but you may be able to find something of interest, or maybe give you an idea or inspiration for something else. ] ] 20:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
::::Sorry, got caught up and forgot about this. Are you still looking for article suggestions, or have you found something else or taken a different approach. I'll start looking if you want me to. Let me know. ] ] 14:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Im still looking so far. I did minor organization editions here and there. But not a full blown project. ] (]) 15:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
:Have you heard of ? It looks to have similarities to jrpgs, but is all western made as far as I can tell. There isn't an article yet, but I easily found 5+ sources after a brief Google search. Looks like it could be up your alley, though I'll keep looking too. ] ] 01:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
::I honestly did see this in Siliconera, i remember it as "the one with the ugliest modern box art". But i can see if i can create the article. I'll look into it. ] (]) 02:07, 24 December 2015 (UTC)


== Universe continuity == == Browser crashing ==


You mentioned your browser crashes on ]. By chance do you use Chrome? In the past two weeks I've experienced a similar issue that trying to paste into a Misplaced Pages article causes a crash. It appears that others have had an issue too: ]. -- ] (]) 19:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Alright, seriously, explain YOUR version of the continuity because it is completely different from mine then. The manga has the SAC cast in it, it also takes place before SAC and while much can be said of artistic interpretation the canon material from the manga to the SAC flows pretty easily. Even more so that Motoko's behavior and abilities compliment her 'marriage' and merge with the 2501. It actually put Oshii-san's interpretation with the movie out by focusing on the case, and the rest has members of the Section 9 featured. And Section 9 disbanded in 2029 after Motoko's little stunt in the manga, but the rest is as your know. How about explaining your deal with it, because you deny all day, but you don't support anything. SAC is based on the manga after all. ] (]) 03:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


:Ok, thanks for letting me know. I am using Chrome. Wow, this is so strange. ] (]) 20:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
To put it simply: Manga=Fuchikomas, SAC= Tachikomas, Film series= No fuchikoma nor Tachikoma.


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But to be more complex:, SAC series has an established timeline, just because each episode is different plot, doesnt mean its not linear. The established timeline for SAC is 1st=2030, 2nd season=2032, TV-film=2034. Within that timeframe Motoko Kusagani leaves section9 in 2032 and returns in the TV film but not completely. In which the manga she left in 2030 and she merged with the Puppeteer (making it obvious that the manga and the SAC series are not one in the same because by 2030, Motoko wouldnt be in the series). The interpretations differ even further: Characters such as Yano, and Azuma, they appear alonside eachother as rookies in SAC 2nd Gig but the manga shows Yano in the first manga and died before they even showed him alive, and Azuma appears almost as Motoko's replacement in Ghost in the Shell 1.5 manga.


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Mamoru Oshii's condensed the series not only on the case but the timeline. In the manga, each chapter has a date and the events of "Robot Rondo" (and you can tell by the date in the chapter being 2029 and the Puppeteer merger in 2030) happened before the merge of Kusanagi and the Puppeteer, however that story happened after the merge in the film sequal: Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence and adds further differentiations with Motoko/puppeteer together. Plus fuchikoma dont exist in the film series.


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I can go on about every single difference but these are the ones that make it obvious.


== And now for 2016 ==
:: I'm sensing a lot of Oshii issues, that's exactly what I point out. Though SAC is also based on it, but the universe is still basically the same.. and Yano's death is a good difference, but its not really that major when you compare it to Gundam. If you want to go with the whole timeline style spin, then why not, but SAC itself could be split up as well if you wanted to be all super precise, multiple authors and such. It is still, by all accounts, the same 'universe' when compared to others. Even Tengen did an alt ending, Evangelion manga and anime and movies... need I say more? Those are all the same Universe. Different tellings, but really, if you want to split hairs I guess you can split hairs. ] is also the media franchise. So its not helping your argument about media franchises, (we can say that it stays by this point, right?), but for the point of wording... I'll let you word it as you wish. ] (]) 04:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Alternate endings are different from alternate storylines. What I'm saying whatever is introduced in SAC stays in SAC, for example: World War III and IV. That was only in Stand Alone Complex. look at character articles of NGE, they each separate the continuities because each one is different. ] is a poor article that needs an overhaul. SAC is based on Ghost in the shell manga, and the same for the films but not in the sense that the story. Tenchi muyo is also a poor article and deserves an overhaul aswell. Ghost in the Shell is different in the sense each series has its own article.] (]) 04:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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== Activeanime discussion ==

FYI, I have opened up a discussion regarding the use of ActiveAnime as a ] at ]. Also, just so you are aware, there's an RfC on Niemti ]. ] (] - ]) 19:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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== It might take a while to get good replies ==

But I did post at ]. Best wishes to you. If you have specific questions you could ask me at my talk page. ] (]) 22:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I'm dealing with a discussion now where I think reason isn't being applied well! So I know how you feel. ] (]) 22:24, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

:Oh ok thanks. What gets me the most is i habe potential to make GA-class articles but i have to constantly drop personal projects.] (]) 22:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

::So you think the bar is too high? ] (]) 22:42, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

The issues just never get enough attention is what im saying.] (]) 00:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:We are definitely a work in progress! So there's always something not getting enough attention... I'm trying to do my best to further us along, while I can. =) I'm sorry if it's gotten to the point where things are unenjoyable. It's your ] to quit, take an extended break, or whatever you want to do. I don't know much about the content area you work in, or anything specific that's been troubling you. Do you care to share more details? ] (]) 01:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
::Its clear that it could get enough attention but it doesnt. Im working on Ghost in the Shell. I posted the issue at ]. It needs review on those who are an expert on the subject:]. The massive changes were due to a fan claiming to be an expert but suddenly proved nothing as claiming to have hundred of sources but provided none, splitting the original media away from the main article and disappeared after he got what he wanted, which was to merge all media (regardless if its secondary media) onto the main article making it overly redundant and somewhat closer to WP:SYNTHESIS.

::The problem is in WP:ANIME is that there is a simple vote count and they dont attemptnto reason or discuss and i take it personally because i KNOW their actice and other discussions get an instant view. Making my work even harder.] (]) 22:56, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

:::Your recent changes to Ghost in the Shell appear to have been accepted so far! I'm guessing ] might be the issue of most contention, at this point? ] (]) 20:34, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Until the same editor claiming to be well experienced returns. Thats the problem, i can easily rearrange this to the way i want but i wantmy contributions to stick. If i do any more editing that goes further into my goal, then itlk be considered ].] (]) 21:44, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

== Tables ==
In this article I made a table and it seems that you have deleted it. Is there a reason why can't it be there? --] (]) 23:13, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

You mean the 3 separate ones? --] (]) 23:45, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

It's not a big deal, but when you go on wikipedia, almost every page about a franchise has a table like that. Why is this an exception? --] (]) 16:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

== Your post ==

I read your post on the Anime project's page, and I'm sorry that you don't feel welcomed. It sounds like you're feeling very frustrated right now. I hope you feel better. ] (]) 19:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
:You also have my deepest sympathies, Lucia. I hope you feel better. ] (] - ]) 06:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you. It really means alot to me. For now, im just going to focus on other articles and see how it goes.] (]) 06:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Okay, I guess that's fair enough. Best wishes, ] (] - ]) 06:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

== Re: Award for you ==

You have my thanks. I will continue the good work, and I hope we can work together on many other pages. --] (]) 20:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Youre welcome. And yeah sounds good.] (]) 20:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

== FYI ==

Hello. Just so you are aware, I've started an RfC subpage on ] at ]. If you have the time, can you provide some evidence there? Thanks, ] (] - ]) 15:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

== Motion to close RFC/U ==

You have previously commented on ].

As an outside editor, I have moved that this RFC/U be closed. If you wish to comment on the Motion to close, please do so ]. ] (]) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

== Warning ==

No consensus was reached. An agreement between only two people is not a consensus. If you have issue with my edits than start a discussion on it rather than blindly reverting them. Consider this a warning before I report you for inappropriate behaviour. This is not the first time I've witnessd you stubbornly reverting on this page. --] (]) 20:38, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

== Re: a different focus ==

I will take your advice, for the time being. By the way, can you describe more clearly what you would like done with Final Fantasy Dimensions? I know I've done a lot of plot fixes and additions over the past few months (I think), but I can't clearly see what's wrong with this one. Unless it's the fact that it seems to tail off rather abruptly. --] (]) 07:29, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
:Looking at it and reading through it, yes. I see what you mean. I will do my best, but portable games aren't really my strong point. to be frank, I'm best with the Fabula Nova Crystallis series. But never mind. I will at least do copy-editing on this article. The grammar is quite bad (and if you were the one who wrote it, no offense meant, it was just a fact from my POV). --] (]) 07:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

== Calm Down ==

Would you calm down a bit? I hadn't been on Misplaced Pages since I reverted you, so I hadn't even realized there ''was'' a discussion. (Come on, what was it, like 10 hours ago only?) Furthermore, I left , so its not like I didn't discuss at all either. Now, I'll respond on the Sonic series template talk page, but yikes, tone it down some... ] ] 10:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
:So, don't worry, I have no intention of continuing our discussion other than notifying you that ''I am'' an admin, since the things you were saying before sounded like you thought I wasn't. That's all. ] ] 23:56, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

== Izno and GITS template ==

Would you please make a statement on the formatting on the template to Izno? He believes that because you edited the template in the form that he preferred that it is your opinion that you also prefer that form because you did not revert the edit that he made (he took the SAC episode list link out of the parentheses).—] (]) 02:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
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== Notification ==

Hi, Lucia. I know you are understandably upset over the Misplaced Pages-related situation with the GITS article and issues with other users. I am so sorry if I have caused you or any other users any trouble, and I know you don't want to be blocked for this matter, so please don't get stressed out when dealing with difficult users. Per our ]. "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a '''personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done.''' When in doubt, '''comment on the article's content without referring to its contributor at all'''." Also, per this policy, "serious accusations require '''serious evidence'''". Also, please note that when someone has asked you not to post on their talk page, you really shouldn't unless you have to. Continuing to post on others talk page after being asked not to violates the Misplaced Pages policy of harassment, see ]. If you have concerns about a user's behavior, take it up to a noticeboard like ] or ] and provide your evidence (i.e. diffs) there, or discuss things constructively (but do watch out for the ] effect). If you want to let off some steam, please take a step back from the computer and come back when you feel refreshed. Also, remain ] in discussion. Discuss changes on the talk page if one reverts you. Otherwise, you will end up being blocked for ] and worst of all, you don't want to be violating ]. Since Misplaced Pages works by ], discussion is necessary between other users and ]. Just calm down. Okay? ] (] - ]) 00:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
:Hey Lucia, noticed people are being troublesome. I have had many contentious arguments with other users over the years, and Sjones is right, we need to keep cool. Also, if users are bothering you, remember they are usually bothering other people too, and a point will come where they have annoyed too many people to ignore and will be dealt with. You don't have to shoulder the burden of getting ride of them, or fixing their mistakes alone. I bide my time, and am usually able to fix mistakes others make, but it takes some time and some laying low. I need you here also to help with Wikiproject Square Enix, so out of the boxing ring with you! :) ] (]) 00:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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I put it up at GA nomination. We should add the Nintendo Power stuff, and can we cut the Japanese links we used from the talk page to do? I don't know which ones were used, my Japanese is rusty! And finally, I have a link to a 1993 famitsu scan, and the author says its a top ten best gameboy games list with FFA listed in it, do you know Japanese? Does it say that? If we could site famitsu, we will be golden for GA. Here's the link. ] (]) 01:24, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
:No I don't know japanese. I recognize the characters, find them in the katakana or hiragana article and manually find the characters to put in google translate. I usually ask for help if its a video page for translations because it provides no letters. I'm unsure, but if a blogsite provides actual magazine, I doubt their lying. I see the purple sectioning mention both 5 and GBA. So I could look them up but I don't think its an innacurate translation. Both blog seems consistent on the top 5 GBA games.] (]) 01:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
::I'd appreciate it if you could just give it a cursory check, I don't want to be wrong about this :) ] (]) 01:50, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Ok. Ill get back to you ASAP.] (]) 02:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

== Farewell ==

I am sending this message to the users who I have closely collaborated with. I will be taking a temporary Wikibreak for at least 5-7 days to let off some steam and get myself reenergized. Some of the stress has got to me, so I think it's best if I should take a couple of days off. I also have final exams coming up as well, so I have more important things to worry about. I, however, will be here to contribute to some articles that I have worked on. Until then, farewell. With my very best and warmest regards, ] (] - ]) 20:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

== Anime and manga Project ==

Would you consider coming back to help out? It has almost been two months now and I feel that your input has been useful on the articles. - ] (]) 22:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

:I've been mainly discussing to reech consensus and non controversial edits but nowhere near full expansion just to test the waters. What do you need help with?] (]) 22:50, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

==Talkback==
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== SAC ==

What are your thoughts on merging ] to ] and then just having the 2nd GIG episode list at the 2nd GIG article?—] (]) 05:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

:The main SAC article is really packed. I doubt we can merge them both together considering that their length and how distinct the plots and reception.] (]) 06:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
::It doesn't seem there's that much on the 2nd GIG page though.—] (]) 17:13, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm all for the merge if we don't have to cut info and the article won't be so heavy. But right now I can't imagine a good cosise article without cutting a lot of info. That would have to relate to the plot, and then related media. Ill support the merge, but only because the S.A.C. 2nd Gig isn't the most grounded articles of Gits. But if more info can be found for 2nd Gig, then we can attempt to split (with consensus of course).] (]) 19:31, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
:::: Cease your merging efforts for now, the matter is at DRN and I treat all topics, broadly, under GITS to be related. ] (]) 20:55, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::Did I ask for your opinion?—] (]) 23:07, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
You treat them too broadly. And I have no plans to merge anything.] (]) 21:11, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

"THE GHOST IN THE SHELL" is the Japanese subtitle for part 1.—] (]) 15:48, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:Your only proof is cover art. The cover also has masamune shirow in english and Japanese, should we say masamune was considered as "Masamune Shirow 士郎 正宗"? Here's an example, Eureka Seven in Japan has its english title as "Psalm of Planets: Eureka seveN" despite the kanji being read differently. Detective Conan is also one. Same thing for Sailor Moon. Its not known as "Pretty Gaurdian 美少女戦士セーラー ムーン" and Fullmetal Alchemist in japan isn't known as " 美少女戦士セーラー ムーン Fullmetal Alchemist" (except for FMA:Brotherhood but that's sourced).] (]) 15:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
::It's also , ], . It's not the translation of "Kokaku Kidotai" and it's not harming anything by leaving it in the damn article. You are being as bad as Chris right now.—] (]) 16:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

:::Of course its not the translation, but its the english intended title, not part of the Japanese one. Japanese wiki isn't a reliable source. And the harm is innacuracy. You only have cover art.] (]) 17:10, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:::: As bad as me? I see how it is. Considering neither of you seem to be able to read Kanji and clearly do not understand the multiple readings, why do you continue on? ] (]) 19:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry but there's no way in hell that 攻殻機動隊 literally translates as "The Ghost in the Shell". And Lucia, if both the Japanese and English forms are given in regards to the Japanese release (note that 2 and 1.5 only have "MANMACHINE INTERFACE" and "HUMAN-ERROR PROCESSER" on their covers and not "THE GHOST IN THE SHELL" it stands to reason that the subtitle of the first volume is "THE GHOST IN THE SHELL".—] (]) 19:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::: I didn't say that; check with your dictionary on the multiple meanings and interpretations, its clever ain't it? I won't tell you what they specifically mean, because the only way you'll find out is by learning for yourself. ] (]) 19:38, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Look, I'm not going to determine what the kanji says (some sources state Kokaku can also be translated as "Ghost Shell" but I'm not going to verify that). And that's not really the issue Chris. What is the issue is what is considered part of the Japanese title. Just because its on the cover doesn't mean its part of the Japanese title. And sometimes japanese sites add the intended english title but its not officially part of the Japanese one. I have not found a single first party/second party source mentioning "The Ghost in the Shell" as part of the Japanese. these things have to be verified thoroughly. Many Japanese covers use english titles intended for english release, example: Detective Conan/Case closed situation.

These things have to be verified. Here's an example: Kodansha nor any retail site has it with "the Ghost in the Shell". The "cover" doesn't prove anything.] (]) 20:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:: I swear... even when I agree with you, you still argue with me. ] (]) 20:38, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
:::What????? I'm not even saying anything against you.] (]) 20:44, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

== A friendly warning to you about ''Versus XIII'' ==

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:I'll look into it.] (]) 08:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks. I will remember this.] (]) 05:26, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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== Versus: What's going on here now? ==

I don't want to appear critical or hostile, but why did you delete that whole raft of referenced material that had been cut down to the bone by a user who only wants to help? On top of that, you did not seem to see that someone had put in stuff about VGleaks and used fansite Nova Crystallis as a reference again (not a G-Zay puppet, I checked). Orphaned refs have needed to be salvaged <s>and it looks more like something that has had a hatchet taken to it in a wild rage than anything carefully thought out. You didn't even give your reason.</s> I'm not siding with anything G-Zay did in saying this, but your actions do not seem to add up to me. So...why? --] (]) 20:13, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
: Okay, that was me being churlish. Sorry if I'm sounding offensive. Just was a bit of a shock. I guess you must have had your reasons and it's not really for me to inquire in the tone I used. --] (]) 22:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
:: I took a nap. Sorry abiut tht. Didnt see the orphaned refs. Anyways. Sorry if it was too much of a nuesance.

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:Why do you have these.odd ideas of wikipedia. Stop calling people troll and keep.your personal ideas to yourself. I informed you for a misunderstanding. Dont bother.] (]) 02:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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::: its a typo. Caused by smartphones, i recently upgraded and it messes with what im typing. Calm down. Stop assuming others are trolls (especialy when youre arguing over subjective personal preferences over necesities).] (]) 09:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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== Yip sock ==

I've removed the sock template from this page. Was confirmed as ] Jonathan Yip who has a repeated problem of actual trolling. The bad English, the claims, Lucia - like others before her - was targeted unfairly for the sake of drama. While I may be involved in a etc.)it of a dispute with Lucia, she is clearly not a troll and would not stoop to blatant meatpuppetry or sockpuppeteering. Please do not reinsert the template; because this little 'episode' only serves to feed JY. ] (]) 03:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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*It should have been clear to you that aspects of your editing are deemed disruptive; is just another example: you blatantly change the meaning of someone else's comment, and you can't do that. ] (]) 05:34, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed | 1=Just because Chris gualtieri wont accept that smartphone issues causes accidental autocorrect, doesnt mean it warrants a block. editing is incredibly difficult when it comes to smartphone, especially with multiple tags. Often time the cursor would jump at a random spot in the talkpage and have to rewrite everything because I just realized my comment is being written in the middle of someone elses. Another issue is that sometimes autocorrect wont function and I have to move my cursor back to the typo and then move it back to where I left off. And trust me just making this comment is a hassle. Thats why half the time I dont even bother with manually correcting typos. Also, that one sentence, is incredibly minor, anyone with common sense would see it as an accident. Theres no need for blocking. Just tell me the issue and I can fix it. I didnt fix the last one because RexxS warned me, I fixed it because it was an accidental error. Lets stop getting trigger happy just because some of you dont like me.] (]) 07:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC) | decline=Suggesting that you were blocked because "some of you dont like me" is pretty much the opposite of how the ] suggest you should handle an unblock request. In addition, if you are aware that editing with your Smartphone causes disruption, is difficult to control, and creates confusion for other editors, why would you continue to do so? You need to take responsibility for your edits, and that includes the technology you use to make your edits. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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{{unblock reviewed | 1=The occurance is Rare. And I believe this goes against the blocking process as its obvious it could have been avoided. The disruption is incredibly minor, rare, and reversable, and accidental. Its not constant, its not intentional, and could have been avoided altogether. ChrisGualtieri knowing full well he could have simply told me I edited his comment, couldve avoided this. Taking responsibility for my edits doesnt mean blocking. I do take responsibility for mine, I fix the accident in the first place. The claims of "persistent" disruptive editing is false. And the disruption is minor too to even call it "disruptive editing".] (]) 20:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC) | decline=It's a short block, only 48 hours, and to be fair given the intemperate behaviour demonstrated below, I think it would be enormously unwise to unblock you. Please, for your own sake, take a deep breath, relax and just sit out the 48 hour block, come back in a positive frame of mind ready to collaborate productively with everybody else. ] (]) 23:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)}}


Ah thank you. I love Norway scenery. ] (]) 18:28, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed | 1=My very last unblock request. I find it injustice, that the declining for unblock isnt actually based on the actual block. Im asking for a completely unbiased, strictly on the situation review to determine unblocking. I removed a whole discussion merely because it fuels anger. This is my last unblock request. I understand the situation, however this block was incredibly premature and wrong. The issue is not persistent whatsoever and based solely on one edit. The system to block was ignored in this situation.] (]) 00:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC) | decline=No, this is not a block for a single incident, the incident is merely the last straw after all the issues raised at ] and previously. I have no previous involvement with any of this, but reading over the history it is clear to me that you have an attitude problem which is making it unnecessarily difficult for people to work with you. During the remaining hours of your block, please read ], ] and ], and think seriously about them. If you can follow the advice to "''comment on content, not on the contributor''", you will get on much better; if not, I am afraid you may find yourself facing longer blocks. ] (]) 22:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)}}


== Release date proposal ==
Actually its not. The issue of WP:BATTLE, WP:AGF, and WP:NPA are not relevant. That ANI is purely based on the fact that I compromised another editors way to being an Admin, and I can prove it. For one, the "personal attacks" was when the "accuser" was involved. Despite most of the issues being of the accuser. The other factors were completely off with personal attacks. Comenting on "content, not on editors" is impossible for ANI. ANI is meant to discuss the editor. Assuming good faith doesnt always work. Theres history here. Even the sockpuppet (despite the fact that it was a sock, this sock had no involvement whatsoever with me, it proves that this editor who is accusing me is the same editor poisoning the discussion and falsely accusing of personal attack and forgets this editor has the exact same issues. The only thing thats different is that Im having difficulty for actually proving it with links and the not so occasional accidental edit. The only thing that ANI proves is an editor having their last straw with me, not that this edit was the last straw of disruptive "persistent" edits and deserved Immediate blocking. The warning was received by RexxS, but again, if one is to assume good faith, dont you think editing another persons edit should be leave an editor to assume good faith by thinking it was an accident, especially if it has already been addressed with difficulty?


() What kind of clarification are you looking for? Do you have specific cases in mind? <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 02:40, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Drmies even addressed that there was little to no action, but changed when I dismissed the ANI. Now the block was imediate without AGF.


:{{ping|Czar}} I consider all initial release dates of all noted regions (EU, NA, PAL) as major release dates. What i'm concerned is that people have different definitions of "first major release". But it also gets trickier with foreign games where it was released in another country form another language, then localized in other regions. For example, some games were released in South Korea, but have only a week or two weeks difference from the NA localization from the PAL localization. We also have to look into Publishers too. the entire infobox may have to be looked into, not just release dates. ] (]) 03:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
This being the last straw isnt that good. The blocking has to be done when it cant be avoided. Which is why ive requested unblocking 3 times. The first rejected by irrelevant matters while the second based on my anger which ironically fueled by this wrongfully block.
:: This is a big enough change that there is room to discuss granularity after the main tenets are ironed out. It doesn't have to be in one fell swoop. Films and albums release in different formats in different locales with different features all the time—it's analogous. I'd define first major release the same as the other infoboxes do—the very first date. Differences by region, if they matter (and they usually don't), are designed to be explicated in the Release prose. But I don't think that needs to be part of the proposal—it could, alternatively, be month-year instead of date, or it could be the first major release separated by region, as you put it, but that's for the group to decide. Ostensibly the other fields should work the same way—the main developer, the main publisher. The infobox is designed for quick access to definitive traits, not every detail or nuance about a release. But as for needing "more clarification on how it would work", wouldn't you agree that it's better to do one step at a time? <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 22:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
:::{{ping|czar}}Undue weight is what I'm worried about. Giving more emphasis on the first one even if it's just weeks apart. The biggest difference with film and albums is they aren't in a competition within hardware. Also they usually share the same publisher. I don't think it's so easy to compare. Initial release dates of each region is important if it's related to the initial release. What we're doing is trying to synthesize what is more relevant just by determining which is the earliest release date. For example: let's say a game was confirmed to release on Xbox one, ps4, and Wii u. Those are already confirmed relevant consoles. Now let's say Xbox one/ps4 have a simultaenious release but Wii U takes a couple Months. Who are we to say that isn't relevant initial release? Lets also point out that the release dates are just a couple weeks apart from the release north American from PAL region? In previous discussions it was confirmed both would have a release, so the question rises again? Its not about the differences between the regions, it's whether sources treated it as an initial release info. ] (]) 05:22, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
:::: <div style="float:right;border:1px solid black;padding:5px">'''Xbox 360''', '''Xbox One'''<br />{{Video game release|NA|November 10, 2015|AU|November 10, 2015|EU|November 13, 2015}}'''Microsoft Windows'''<br />{{vgrelease|WW|January 28, 2016}}'''PlayStation 4'''<br />Q4 2016</div> The case of '']'' (infobox dates on the right) is similar to your scenario. Instead of cataloging these dates, I would suggest that we list "November 10, 2015" in the infobox, only mention the differences in region in a Development section footnote if even necessary, and move the other port timeframes into the Dev/Release section. The delay between the port releases, if mentioned by secondary sources, belongs in the Dev section, and but it's only important to note the specific dates if the sources do so. Do we need to have the dates of each release or region in the infobox? I wager that it's best contextualized in prose (especially when we're looking at releases from 10+ years ago with poor release date documentation). <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 06:02, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|czar}} I thought about it. But Rise of the Tomb Raider is only one game. Give me a more drastic example. Lets say Final Fantasy (video game). ] (]) 07:28, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::: Good example—what matters most for ] is "1987" (or "December 18, 1987" if anyone can actually source it). The barrage of unsourced dates (and they typically are unsourced) aren't helpful. Instead, the section dedicated to the ports and their features is exactly what we should be encouraging—cited commentary on the difference between ports. Notice how the table in that section doesn't use exact dates. I'd still prefer sourced years in that column, but the format of prose naturally encourages editors to leave out extraneous detail so as to form better sentences. The list of dates, whether hidden inside a collapsible list or not, is a mess that creates more questions than it answers. <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 09:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
{{ping|czar}} I think we done need all the re-releases, ports, and remakes. However. I do believe we still need to keep everything considered as part of the original release, at least if it follows closely to what was originally intended to be released in. For FF (video game), that would have the original NES release, but also mention the original release from its own country, and then the following english countries (if the intent was to release it in those countries in the first place and followed through). But thats as far as i can agree to. ] (]) 10:03, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
: {{talkquote|i=y|I think we done need all the re-releases, ports, and remakes.}} Where? In the infobox? Why? <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 10:21, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
:: "don't". Typo. Here's how it can work out without really needing to reform all the articles instantly. Create new parameters without deleting the old such as '''original console''', '''original release date''' and '''original publisher(s)'''. We keep all relevant regions if the release dates are relatively close together. And if they're not, we mention other releases in the infobox but only for console (not dates). ] (]) 10:50, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


== Diddy Kong Racing ==
Ive reported the accuser 3 times, but uts a matter of which admin actually wants to keep tabs. And this is a sloppy way of keeping tabs because what you state is "the last straw" is incredibly minor and fixable. It was very rushed, and doesnt even give one to explain. This unblock request is completely on principle.] (]) 04:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


Hey, I noticed that you expanded a lot of content on '']'' a while ago. I'm just wondering if you would be interested in bringing it up to GA with me at some point? Seeing as I sent ''Diddy's Kong Quest'' to GAN, it's next on my list and I thought it would be rude not to ask you since you did expand the gameplay section substantially. I've got a lot of sources for development, so I'll be up for it. If you want... <span style='font:bold small-caps 0.94em "Nimbus Mono L";color:#000000'>]]</span>&nbsp; 14:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
== ANI Discussion ==


:{{ping|Jaguar}} it's perfectly fine for me if you send it to GAN. I've been stuck trying to improve the dev section and reception section anyways. But I'll see what I can do. ] (]) 15:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
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::Thanks! I might be a day or two as I'm working on another article at the moment, but I won't be long. Anything you can do would be great. <span style='font:bold small-caps 0.94em "Nimbus Mono L";color:#000000'>]]</span>&nbsp; 15:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm taking another extended break honestly. Probably longer than my last. ] (]) 15:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
::::I understand. I hope everything is alright, I just thought a collaboration might help things. It can wait, I've been feeling unmotivated too but who knows how I'll feel in a few days. <span style='font:bold small-caps 0.94em "Nimbus Mono L";color:#000000'>]]</span>&nbsp; 15:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm not motivated because a lot of reasons. Reasons too dark to even say. You can still talk to me. I still get emails. ] (]) 15:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
:Emailed. <span style='font:bold small-caps 0.94em "Nimbus Mono L";color:#000000'>]]</span>&nbsp; 10:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
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* I am so very sorry to hear this - my prayers and condolences to all friends and family. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 11:41, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Ryulong deleted the section from the talk page; but I'm letting you know that Chibi Kusanagi is ] as a sock. Jonathan Yip was listed, but their is some concern as whether it is really him or another user. Anyways; problem solved. ] (]) 04:28, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
*I'm so sorry to hear this. Truly sad news. Thanks for everything you did here, it will never be forgotten. <span style='font:bold small-caps 0.94em "Nimbus Mono L";color:#000000'>]]</span>&nbsp; 11:56, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
*And your quick assumption that Chris had anything to do with this is not just sad but also a personal attack. Please don't jump to such conclusions again. Thank you. ] (]) 01:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
*This is terrible news. Lucia's contributions here were incredibly helpful, and always with the integrity of the encyclopedia in mind. They, nor she, will ever be forgotten. My condolences to her friends and family. – ] ] 12:56, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
*so sorry. peace. ] ] 16:18, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
*Terrible news indeed. Thanks for everything you have done here. Vaya con dios and rest in peace. ] (] - ]) 17:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
*I hope you found a better place Lucia, RIP. - ] (]) 17:58, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
*This is sad news. While we had our disagreements and the occasional clash, I had hoped that things would ultimately have worked out in one way or another. RIP Lucia. ] (]) 04:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
* RIP from Chinese Misplaced Pages. Thanks for your contribution to human civilization. --] (]) 06:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
* My deepest condolences to friends and family. ] (]) 06:09, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
* RIP, this is an editor from PRC and Misplaced Pages-zh. Wish to have a better next life. --] (]) 06:10, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
* ] -- <span style="font-size:1.6em;line-height:.8em;">]</span>] 06:26, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
* So very saddened to hear this, but I hope you find peace -- ] <sup><small>] or ]</small></sup> 16:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
*Be at peace, little darling. I'll miss you. I wish I could have done more to help you. ] (]) 23:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
* Very sad. Admired the work of this user a lot. I was inspired by the work done by this user and others on ''Uzumaki'' to try and enhance the article on the film. RIP. ] (]) 19:26, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
* I'm a bit late here, but I'm very sad to hear this. Lucia Black was helpful in helping me edit the '']'' article(s), and although we did have our disagreements, I felt like her comments/edits always made the page stronger in the end.--<span style="font-family:Arial Black;">] ]</span> 15:24, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
* I have just read this and it has moved me. My sincere condolences to friends and family <span style="border:1px solid #333333;padding:1px;">]</span> 12:32, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
* I'm truly gutted. You were one of a small group of Misplaced Pages editors who inspired me to make dedicated contributions to WP:ANIME, write thoughtful, detailed comments in talkpages and always make users feel appreciated with kindness. Above all, these experiences pushed me to go learn wikitext and run a little wiki of my own. ''']]]''' 21:14, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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May 2015 - Self-Requested Block

per the original request here, and subsequent discussion on their talk here, I have blocked this account indefinitely.

  • At Lucia, I do hope that in time you will have a change of heart and wish to return. I do understand your feelings, and that is why I've honored your wishes with this block. I do wish you all the best. You are still free to post to your talk page.
  • At any Admin. If at any time Lucia requests an unblock, please feel free to honor that without having to consult me.
@Ched: I am testing out the waters for now, so a temporary unblock. For now. I still fully intend to edit strictly with Japanese media content. Lucia Black (talk) 15:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Done - and it's good to see you Lucia. I hope things go well for you. (and Happy Holidays). — Ched :  ?  15:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Lucia Black/The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria

User:Lucia Black/The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Lucia Black/The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Lucia Black/The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. DAJF (talk) 10:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

One Piece Wiki Link

I'm pursuing a One Piece Wiki link in the article One Piece, and require your continued input in this discussion. Speeditor (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Reasons why a Japanese-media TBAN is not giving me much room

1) Anything tangent-related to Japanese media, is just media. And not all media hold the same rules, policies, sources, and structure. Its a long transition just to make significant edits until to prove to the community i can edit without issues. I think what many people fail to understand is how "Media" in general is such a different scope. Those that are inspired by Japanese related media aren't all treated the same way. For example:Scott Pilgrim is completely different from Avatar: The Last Airbender.

2) For video game related content, i have absolutely no problem editing. The problem however is if the community wants to see me make significant contributions, then by all means. But WP:VG is saturated with help. Any article i want to work on is either impossible to find sources because A) they are older than the internet, B) obscure, or C) Japanese related content, and I've caught myself too many times almost breaking the TBAN because of it. Its a very taxing thing to constantly run into articles you have an interest in instinctively and then finding out that they fall into that category. I worked on WonderSwan not because it was Japanese, but it was a cute video game console, and thought it deserved some attention.

3)We all know i can edit without problems with other members. The members I've worked with and had significant issues are all banned now. I personally thought they should've been banned a long time ago. As for me? There are members who know i can edit. And i know that even those who oppose know i can edit without issues. I'm trying to show it in AN. I also am trying my absolute best to not take any of the negative comments about me personally. Its a very difficult thing to do, because they are about me, and i'm only human. I learned. I don't want to argue with anyone. I just want to edit. But i also want to make "significant" contributions. I'm still willing to accept all the blame for what has happened in the past. I've learned. There are olive branches sent out to those i normally would never sent out in a heartbeat. When it comes to Indefinite bans, they get a 1-year interval without showing needing a single sign of proof of there improvement. TBANs don't have that requirement either. There is a reason why some feel this ban is controverial, its why it was fought multiple times. Whats the difference between back then and before? I'm not trying to "fight" it. I'm not trying to say its wrong, i'm just asking for some room where i can prove myself.

I know those who work with both WP:VG and WP:ANIME know exactly what i mean. Its not exactly a straight forward Tban, and i know others are mentioning it as a very controversial ban too. So with that mind, all i'm asking is for some good-faith. Lucia Black (talk) 15:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm not trying to argue or criticize at all, this is an honest question: If the topic ban is "Japanese media", can't you find a single United States/European developed video game to contribute to? I mean, I get it - I vastly prefer Japanese developed games too, and don't have much interest in other ones...but if I had to, I could certainly some non-Japanese ones. I created VS Racing 2, for example. Anyways, you could work on something like, Assassin's Creed Chronicles, has a ton of potential for expansion/splits/rewrites, certainly a ton of sources exist out there, and would not violate your topic ban. Anyways, maybe its something to think about. Sergecross73 msg me 16:14, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Assassin's Creed Chronicle is definitely one option and i'll definitely see what i can do with the article. If you can find me 4 or 2 more articles exactly like Assassin's Creed Chronicle, i will happily redact it. I'm still having a difficult time looking for games. The ones that come up in my head end up being Japanese or already GA-status. Or i don't see anything more significant i can do to improve it. Its not a matter of me seeing Japanese/non-Japanese games differently, its a matter of me having to find the games because i have relatively no knowledge of them. Lucia Black (talk) 16:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I will find some more suggestions in a bit. In the meantime, you could also look into the WP:VG request board. I forget the exact link, but it's somewhere at the project page. It's where people put up requests or suggestions for articles to create. In my opinion, there's a lot of junk there...but you may be able to find something of interest, or maybe give you an idea or inspiration for something else. Sergecross73 msg me 20:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, got caught up and forgot about this. Are you still looking for article suggestions, or have you found something else or taken a different approach. I'll start looking if you want me to. Let me know. Sergecross73 msg me 14:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Im still looking so far. I did minor organization editions here and there. But not a full blown project. Lucia Black (talk) 15:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Have you heard of Cosmic Star Heroine? It looks to have similarities to jrpgs, but is all western made as far as I can tell. There isn't an article yet, but I easily found 5+ sources after a brief Google search. Looks like it could be up your alley, though I'll keep looking too. Sergecross73 msg me 01:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
I honestly did see this in Siliconera, i remember it as "the one with the ugliest modern box art". But i can see if i can create the article. I'll look into it. Lucia Black (talk) 02:07, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Browser crashing

You mentioned your browser crashes on Talk:Life Is Strange. By chance do you use Chrome? In the past two weeks I've experienced a similar issue that trying to paste into a Misplaced Pages article causes a crash. It appears that others have had an issue too: Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)/Archive 142#Article crashing Google Chrome. -- ferret (talk) 19:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know. I am using Chrome. Wow, this is so strange. Lucia Black (talk) 20:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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And now for 2016

A view of Lake Bondhus in Norway, and in the background of the Bondhus Glacier, part of the Folgefonna Glacier.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Ah thank you. I love Norway scenery. Lucia Black (talk) 18:28, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Release date proposal

(diff) What kind of clarification are you looking for? Do you have specific cases in mind? czar 02:40, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@Czar: I consider all initial release dates of all noted regions (EU, NA, PAL) as major release dates. What i'm concerned is that people have different definitions of "first major release". But it also gets trickier with foreign games where it was released in another country form another language, then localized in other regions. For example, some games were released in South Korea, but have only a week or two weeks difference from the NA localization from the PAL localization. We also have to look into Publishers too. the entire infobox may have to be looked into, not just release dates. Lucia Black (talk) 03:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
This is a big enough change that there is room to discuss granularity after the main tenets are ironed out. It doesn't have to be in one fell swoop. Films and albums release in different formats in different locales with different features all the time—it's analogous. I'd define first major release the same as the other infoboxes do—the very first date. Differences by region, if they matter (and they usually don't), are designed to be explicated in the Release prose. But I don't think that needs to be part of the proposal—it could, alternatively, be month-year instead of date, or it could be the first major release separated by region, as you put it, but that's for the group to decide. Ostensibly the other fields should work the same way—the main developer, the main publisher. The infobox is designed for quick access to definitive traits, not every detail or nuance about a release. But as for needing "more clarification on how it would work", wouldn't you agree that it's better to do one step at a time? czar 22:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
@Czar:Undue weight is what I'm worried about. Giving more emphasis on the first one even if it's just weeks apart. The biggest difference with film and albums is they aren't in a competition within hardware. Also they usually share the same publisher. I don't think it's so easy to compare. Initial release dates of each region is important if it's related to the initial release. What we're doing is trying to synthesize what is more relevant just by determining which is the earliest release date. For example: let's say a game was confirmed to release on Xbox one, ps4, and Wii u. Those are already confirmed relevant consoles. Now let's say Xbox one/ps4 have a simultaenious release but Wii U takes a couple Months. Who are we to say that isn't relevant initial release? Lets also point out that the release dates are just a couple weeks apart from the release north American from PAL region? In previous discussions it was confirmed both would have a release, so the question rises again? Its not about the differences between the regions, it's whether sources treated it as an initial release info. Lucia Black (talk) 05:22, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Xbox 360, Xbox One
  • NA: November 10, 2015
  • AU: November 10, 2015
  • EU: November 13, 2015
Microsoft Windows
  • WW: January 28, 2016
PlayStation 4
Q4 2016 The case of Rise of the Tomb Raider (infobox dates on the right) is similar to your scenario. Instead of cataloging these dates, I would suggest that we list "November 10, 2015" in the infobox, only mention the differences in region in a Development section footnote if even necessary, and move the other port timeframes into the Dev/Release section. The delay between the port releases, if mentioned by secondary sources, belongs in the Dev section, and but it's only important to note the specific dates if the sources do so. Do we need to have the dates of each release or region in the infobox? I wager that it's best contextualized in prose (especially when we're looking at releases from 10+ years ago with poor release date documentation). czar 06:02, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
@Czar: I thought about it. But Rise of the Tomb Raider is only one game. Give me a more drastic example. Lets say Final Fantasy (video game). Lucia Black (talk) 07:28, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Good example—what matters most for Final Fantasy (video game) is "1987" (or "December 18, 1987" if anyone can actually source it). The barrage of unsourced dates (and they typically are unsourced) aren't helpful. Instead, the section dedicated to the ports and their features is exactly what we should be encouraging—cited commentary on the difference between ports. Notice how the table in that section doesn't use exact dates. I'd still prefer sourced years in that column, but the format of prose naturally encourages editors to leave out extraneous detail so as to form better sentences. The list of dates, whether hidden inside a collapsible list or not, is a mess that creates more questions than it answers. czar 09:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

@Czar: I think we done need all the re-releases, ports, and remakes. However. I do believe we still need to keep everything considered as part of the original release, at least if it follows closely to what was originally intended to be released in. For FF (video game), that would have the original NES release, but also mention the original release from its own country, and then the following english countries (if the intent was to release it in those countries in the first place and followed through). But thats as far as i can agree to. Lucia Black (talk) 10:03, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

I think we done need all the re-releases, ports, and remakes.

Where? In the infobox? Why? czar 10:21, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
"don't". Typo. Here's how it can work out without really needing to reform all the articles instantly. Create new parameters without deleting the old such as original console, original release date and original publisher(s). We keep all relevant regions if the release dates are relatively close together. And if they're not, we mention other releases in the infobox but only for console (not dates). Lucia Black (talk) 10:50, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Diddy Kong Racing

Hey, I noticed that you expanded a lot of content on Diddy Kong Racing a while ago. I'm just wondering if you would be interested in bringing it up to GA with me at some point? Seeing as I sent Diddy's Kong Quest to GAN, it's next on my list and I thought it would be rude not to ask you since you did expand the gameplay section substantially. I've got a lot of sources for development, so I'll be up for it. If you want... JAGUAR  14:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jaguar: it's perfectly fine for me if you send it to GAN. I've been stuck trying to improve the dev section and reception section anyways. But I'll see what I can do. Lucia Black (talk) 15:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I might be a day or two as I'm working on another article at the moment, but I won't be long. Anything you can do would be great. JAGUAR  15:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm taking another extended break honestly. Probably longer than my last. Lucia Black (talk) 15:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I understand. I hope everything is alright, I just thought a collaboration might help things. It can wait, I've been feeling unmotivated too but who knows how I'll feel in a few days. JAGUAR  15:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not motivated because a lot of reasons. Reasons too dark to even say. You can still talk to me. I still get emails. Lucia Black (talk) 15:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Emailed. JAGUAR  10:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you said you were taking a break from WP. Would you be interested in helping us expand the Diddy Kong Racing guide over at StrategyWiki? We're a much more friendly community, I think you would enjoy it there. Hoping to hear from you over there. Plotor (talk) 19:53, 27 January 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plotor (talkcontribs)

You got a friend!

Hey Lucia, Judgesurreal777 here, wanted to let you know that I have always considered you a valued and valuable colleague here, and held you in the highest respect. I think I speak for the Wikiproject Square Enix that we would love for you to work More with us in the future, since we are highly collaborative and friendly bunch in the ten years I have been on Misplaced Pages. I understand perhaps a tiny bit of what you're going through; I've Had to have my userpage locked due to my time in the AFD, and Know it's not fun and can be very depressing. If you need someone to Talk with, you can always direct message me! All the best, Judgesurreal777 (talk) 04:01, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

regret to inform

The Misplaced Pages member Lucia black has passed three weeks ago. Unable to access her password to solidify the statement, decided to send word in this fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:4922:4A26:0:4F:3E93:4001 (talk) 10:33, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

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