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== Need for a "massacres" category? == |
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== Need for a "massacres" category? == |
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Above is a suggestion to rename this category (and the relevant subcategories) from "School massacres" to "School spree shootings". I agree with this, with the caveat that the ] and the ] and the ] and the ] and the ] and the ] are not technically spree shootings, as they either did not involve guns (instead using bombs, knives, flamethrowers, or lances), or (Beslan and Ma'alot) are better characterised as hostage/terrorist situations. Also, ] and ] are temporary placeholders as the relevant school shooting articles haven't been written (see and for details). If I have time, I'll tidy this up and do suitable renamings if needed. ] 12:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Above is a suggestion to rename this category (and the relevant subcategories) from "School massacres" to "School spree shootings". I agree with this, with the caveat that the ] and the ] and the ] and the ] and the ] and the ] are not technically spree shootings, as they either did not involve guns (instead using bombs, knives, flamethrowers, or lances), or (Beslan and Ma'alot) are better characterised as hostage/terrorist situations. Also, ] and ] are temporary placeholders as the relevant school shooting articles haven't been written (see and for details). If I have time, I'll tidy this up and do suitable renamings if needed. ] 12:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:I don't think this works, because of the counterexamples you mention (killings that aren't shootings). Instead, I propose renaming to ]. The purpose of this is to pave the way for putting ] (or a similar cat, because currently University shootings is for killings '''and''' shootings that don't kill) in a subcategory of the new cat. In the UK, universities aren't considered schools, but they are educational institutions. See ]. ] - ] 01:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
I'm hoping to start a discussion here on a possible need for a "massacres" category. I have read the deletion debate here and invited comments from those who voted there.
And there is precedent for allowing categories with ambiguous wording. Such as this one here (Category:School massacres) and Category:Disasters. The precise definition of a disaster and the criteria can vary, but the category system is still useful as updating a list is untenable for open-ended historical events such as disasters and massacres.
So, provided there is a strict restriction (based on the title and whether an article survives AfD - ie. the normal Misplaced Pages balances and checks), is there any support for the recreation of Category:Massacres? Carcharoth 11:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Above is a suggestion to rename this category (and the relevant subcategories) from "School massacres" to "School spree shootings". I agree with this, with the caveat that the Beslan school hostage crisis and the Ma'alot massacre and the Bath School disaster and the Poe Elementary School Attack and the Cologne School Massacre and the Osaka school massacre are not technically spree shootings, as they either did not involve guns (instead using bombs, knives, flamethrowers, or lances), or (Beslan and Ma'alot) are better characterised as hostage/terrorist situations. Also, Santee, California and Bethel, Alaska are temporary placeholders as the relevant school shooting articles haven't been written (see and for details). If I have time, I'll tidy this up and do suitable renamings if needed. Carcharoth 12:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)