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'''Initiated by ''' ] ] '''at''' 01:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Involved parties ===
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*{{userlinks|PumpkinSky}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|Jmh649}}
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;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
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;Confirmation that other steps in ] have been tried
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*And as usage of admin rights is in Arbcom's purview, this is the proper venue.] ] 01:09, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by PumpkinSky ===
I have documented sixteen instances (26 if you count a set of page protections separately) since ] (AKA “Doc J/Doc James”) became an admin in Aug 2010 where he has abused his admin rights, made involved admin actions, and/or engaged in conduct unbecoming an admin. These include the Mar 2011 case of ] where he blocks said user, then protects the page in dispute and blocks an alleged sock of the user. In June 2011 he edit warred with ], he reported the editor and both of them got chastised and the page protected. In a Jul 2012 edit war with ] he reports said user and no violation was found. In a Sep 2012 dispute with ] Doc J is accused of admin abuse. Deception was pointed out by an arb in the attempted return of ] in Mar 2013. Jmh648 apparently released an email by an arb in Mar 2013. He issued two 2-year blocks of IPs in May 2013 without any escalating blocks—one was a school IP he called vandalism only. He issued eleven protections just in 2013 where he was a main editor—six of them the primary editor. In one of those cases he said new users must use a talk page first. He was tag teaming in April 2013 to get ] blocked. In an edit war in Apr 2013 with ] he got said user blocked. In an edit war/dispute in Apr 2013 with user ], he reported him but no one agreed with Doc J. There was a highly involved, (apparently) undiscussed, unblock of ] in Apr 2013—the unblock was overturned and Doc J claimed blocking admin provided no reasons but said admin had done so. He told three users, ], ], and ], not to post to his talk page, and threatened to block the last two himself if they posted on his talk again. And most recently, a highly involved block of myself in Jun 2013 for using a phrase that another admin had used in which no action was taken. Yet in my case Doc J gave no warning and blocked me. This block was unanimously opposed in two separate threads and overturned in slightly over 4 hours. By my count 22 of these actions are involved and most are in 2013. There seems to be a definite downward trend. ] ] 01:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
**@all who have posted so far and want evidence, here it is:
:* 16 Jun 2013 - ] blocked 48h by Jmh649, unblocked by unanimous consensus in 4h23min, see ], ], this is involved because of 2 arb cases he and I were involved in where I was an arb and the WBB situation
:** ] 27-28 Apr 2013,
** 05:27, 27 Apr 2013 indef'd by Ched
** 08:21, 27 Apr 2013 unblocked by Jmh649, claiming "no consensus for action taken by involved user"
** 19:26, 27 Apr 2013 blocked 72h by Jmh649 see ]
** 14:23, 28 Apr 2013 block changed to indef by Jmh649
** 03:49, 16 Jun 20113 block tightened with talk page block, etc by Dennis Brown due to block evasion via IP
** Other evidence on the Fladrif case - ]
*** 27 Apr 2013 - ]
*** 27-28 Apr 2013 - ]
*** 27-28 Apr 2013 - ]
*** 27-28 Apr 2013 - ]
*** 27-28 Apr 2013 - ]
** 27 Apr 2013 -
** 28 Apr 2013 -
Fladrif and Doc J are involved:
* 20-24 Jan 2010 - Fladirf invites Doc ]
* 02 Feb 2010 - Doc asks Fladrif for email ]
* 20 Aug 2010 - Fladrif congratulates Doc ]
* Feb-Jun 2010 - Doc, WBB, and Fladrif are both named parties in the TM ArbCom case, making them involved with one another: ]
* Doc, WBB, and Fladrif support each other in many talk page threads:
** 03-11 Feb 2010 - ]
** 13-16 Feb 2010 - ]
** 01-03 Feb 2010 - ]
** 02-03 Feb 2010 - ]
** 02-05 Feb 2010 - ]
** 03-04 Feb 2010 - ]
** 03-04 Feb 2010 - ]
** 03-04 Feb 2010 - ]
** 04-13 Feb 2010 - ]
** 13-15 Feb 2010 - ]
Still TM involvement 3 years later:
** 23 May 2013 -
** 23 May 2013 -
** 23 May 2013 -
** 23 May 2013 -
** 23 May 2013 -
** 23 May 2013 -
:* April 27, 2013
:** 5:27 UTC - ] blocked Fladrif
:** 8:21 UTC - Doc James unblocked with accusation in block log of "involved" - but that is unsubstantiated and not true
:** Doc J made the claim here: Comment Strange how Ched who is involved would take it upon himself to block Fladrif. I oppose the indef block and have unblocked the user in question until consensus develops. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 08:20, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
:** 8:25 UTC - Doc James makes FIRST comment on Ched's talk /informing/ him of unblock .. never discussed it with Ched.
:* ] threats:
* 20 May 2013 -
* 20 May 2013 -
* 20 May 2013 -
* 23 May 2013 -
:** ]
* 19 Sep 2012 - blocked 1week by Jmh649
* 19-21 Sep 2012 - ]
* 21-22 Sep 2012 - ], wherein Jmh649 is accussed of abusing his tools
:** ]
* 09 Mar 2011 -
* 09 Mar 2011 -
* 09 Mar 2011 -
* 10 Mar 2011 -
* 15 Mar 2011 -
* 15 Mar 2011 -
* 15 Mar 2011 -
* 15 Mar 2011 - Four minutes later, Doc J blocks King97tut indef: 01:18, 15 March 2011 Jmh649 (talk | contribs) blocked King97tut (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, email disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite (Creating attack, nonsense or other inappropriate pages: Legal threats)
* 15 Mar 2011 -
* 15 Mar 2011 -
* 15 Mar 2011 - Later the same day he indefs an alleged sock of King97tut: 16:00, 15 March 2011 Jmh649 (talk | contribs) blocked DrChenLin (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite (Abusing multiple accounts)
* 15 Mar 2011 -
*
:** Published email by Roger Davies
* 25 Mar 2013 -
* 27 Mar 2013 -
:** Threatens to block ] for posting to his talk, epitome of involved:
* 19 May 2013 -
* 23 May 2013 - ]
:** Tells Keithbob and Littleolive oil not to post on his talk page:
* 19-23 May 2013 ]
* 19 May 2013 -
* 20 May 2013 -
* 20 May 2013 -
:** Deceptive in the WBB return
* 26 Mar 2013 -
:** 2 year blocks:
* 07 May 2013 -
* 24 May 2013 -
:** Long series of page protections where is is a main contributor, a few from just 2013):
* 03 Jan 2013 -
* 11 Jan 2013 -
* 11 Jan 2013 -
* 18 Jan 2013 -
* 10 Feb 2013 -
* 23 Feb 2013 -
* 25 Feb 2013 -
* 03 Mar 2013 -
* 24 Apr 2013 -
* 22 May 2013 -
* 22 May 2013 -
:** Doc J and ]
* 29 Mar 2013 -
* 03-04 Apr 2013 -
:** Edit war with ] over Osteoarthritis
* 19:41-23:33 07 Apr 2013
* 08 Apr 2013 -
:** Edit war with ]
* 06 Jul 2012 - ], Doc J edit wars with 32cllou, reports him, no violation found
:** Edit war with ] over Circumcision
* 07-14 Jun 2011 - Doc J edit wars with Garycompugeek, reports him, review chastizes both users and protects page
:** Tag team edit wars with ] to get ] blocked
* 22-23 Apr 2013 - ]
*@all, RFC on Doc J won't solve anything, as shown by history, only Arbcom can settle this as only they have remit over this. ] ]
*@DOC J, has edited. Edit wars/disputes are not only over content, look at your "pissed" comment. ] ] 11:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*@All, proof there are double standards on wiki . ] ] 12:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*@Brad, I have great respect for you, but that first comment of yours is incredibly naive. And how do you defend things like the King97tut and Fladrif actions? Not to mention mine and several others.] ] 12:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*@BK, hardly, we have years of hounding new users, making involved actions, edit warring, involved protections, and blocks that get unanimously overturned. RFAR acceptance is more than warranted. And it's worth noting only Doc J's friends have posted so far. ] ] 13:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*@AGK, just "poor judgement" and nothing "egregious"? There are multiple cases of protecting pages he edits, some involve blocks of those disagreeing with him (such as King97tut), the unblock of Fladrif, which is clearly an attempt to save a friend, the claim Ched hadn't explained his block when he already had, posting on Roger's email, and so on. And you and I both know RFCU for admins is a total waste of many users' time. Settle it now or you all know this case will reoccur one day. ] ] 14:42, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by Jmh649 (Doc James) ===
Any diffs to support these accusations to make them easier to respond to? Also isn't this a little early? No RfC/U has taken place, no dispute resolution.

Many comments made by PS are inappropriate and these issues go back a long time. They include among others:
#June 16th 2013 "You want professionals? Go hire some and pay them. I don't volunteer my time to put up with pompous asses like you."
#June 5th 2013 "Sandy, how damned sanctimonious of you. The lessons you should have learned here have been totally lost on you. Have you checked your precious MEDRS stuff for compliance lately?"
#June 5th 2013 "Karma will take care of the rest" is a strange comment as is a comment to ] from May 7th 2013 ""Instant Karma's gonna get you", and the best part is I won't have to do a single thing. You can't escape karma"
#June 2nd 2013 "I can by to see what you were up to and saw you haven't edited in three months. Good riddance because the way you and Townlake behaved on my talk page in Oct 2012 was appalling. You should be ashamed on both a personal and admin level. But I'm sure you're not. But that is okay because karma will get you and I won't have to do a thing." and
#Other concerning comments include: with issues occurring back in July 2011 as well
#More stangeness, here he claims on July 9th of 2011 he does not know how to upload an image to commons yet he is an admin on commons as of that date ?
Pumpkin was warned here I was not previously involved with Pumpkinsky and we have as far as I am aware never edited the same content area.

Were is the evidence that I was in an edit war with ]? This user has not made a single content edit, ever. ] removed this review article in edits like this and this . I posted a request for further input regarding this question on the talk page here With respect to the 2 year IP blocks PS must be referring to this one which was blocked for 2 month Jan 2013 and two weeks in June 2012. This was the users previous edits and . The other IP had been blocked 9 times previously and the previous block had been for nearly two years. Vandalism included and among others. So I do not understand the statement that no shorter blocks had been given before these 2 year blocks as this is not what the block log shows.

With respect to ] here is the post were I asked that he not post on my talk page . I did not state that I would block him myself, just that someone may. With respect to Olive, I crossed out my error here and would have never blocked the user in question as I was involved. Yes I blocked ] for legal threats made here . I have previously had a user on Misplaced Pages make similar legal threats against me and than proceed to carry them out per This was more than two years ago and I agree I should have probably gone through ANI. I am unsure how reporting ] to 3RR is against the "rules" as IMO it was closer to 5 or 6 reverts. The user was never blocked and has recently made some useful edits

] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:29, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
:@PS: I was never involved with your issues with WBB. If being involved with a user who has previous been involved with another user makes you involved than Ched would have been involved with Fladrif. However he was deemed not to be. By the way which arbcom cases are you referring to?
:@PS: You state that I claimed Ched was "deceptive" and give this diff . No were do I state or indicate that I consider Ched deceptive. To clarify matters I do not consider him deceptive. He did however hand out an indef block with no diffs of issues. I agree it was a mistake for me to unblock him. Thus reblocked him as per the diffs provided and apologized to him here ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:37, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
:PS still makes claims of "no escalating blocks"? Am I confused regarding the definition? I am under the assumption that previous blocks of short duration followed by longer ones is the definition of escalating blocks? PS states that I was in an edit war with WoodSnake yet I have never reverted an edit that this user has made. How is this an edit war?15:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
:The block of 7Mike5000 was supported by community consensus here
:I did not "released an email". I simple quoted a single sentence from the arbcom in question.
:@Olive: Regarding the two concerns you raise I have apologized to Ched previously about my inappropriate un-block and did reblock Fladrif. I corrected my type-o on your talk page.
:@Newyorkrad: Yes that was my understanding. One can protect pages on which there is significant long term IP vandalism. The issue is protection of pages during content disputes which is forbidden. ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:09, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by Mathsci ===
There seems to be no reason to open an arbcom case on Jmh649. PumpkinSky was blocked for 48 hours by Jmh649 for incivility (he called another editor a "pompous ass") on 16 June. He was unblocked on 17 June after a posting by Dennis Brown at ]. 5 days later he produced this request. Arbitration is a last resort and is usually preceded by other forms of dispute resolution: ] is still a redlink. PumpkinSky has assembled a list of complaints, including claims of tag teaming, which, without supporting diffs or careful justification, arbitrators are expected to accept on trust. ] (]) 06:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*Any attempt to re-examine issues connected with TM would seem to be counter-productive. During the last Timid Guy case, Jmh649, as a trained medical practitioner, offered his take on some of the medical claims of TM. Some of those commenting here have had significant involvement with TM articles. In my experience they have been completely neutral when commenting on issues unrelated to TM. Closer to TM, however, it's not clear whether that objective neutrality can be maintained.
*PumpkinSky has meanwhile insisted that an RfC/U would not be helpful. But here he has produced a list of disparate minor complaints: such a miscellany is better dealt with in an RfC/U if it needs to be dealt with at all. ] (]) 22:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

===Statement by Anthonyhcole===
I'm not familiar with most of the cases PumpkinSky refers to above, but I'm very familiar with the ] case. I consider Mike a friend, but a troubled and very troublesome person at times. James's treatment of Mike was measured and patient in the face of very challenging behaviour on Mike's part. If PumpkinSky's characterisation of James's behaviour in that case is any measure, I would recommend very careful scrutiny of his other allegations. (I'm on the board of ] with James, and I'm unaware of having had any dealings with PumpkinSky). --] (] · ] · ]) 08:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

===Statement by IRWolfie-===
No diffs are offered, merely a string of allegations and vagueness. This arbitration request appears to be a tit-for-tat response by Pumpkin due to his being blocked. PumpkinSky has a high degree of emotional involvement in the Will Beback case he mentions, could this arbitration filing be because James supported the unblock of Will? ] (]) 08:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

===Statement by Black Kite===
"''He issued two 2-year blocks of IPs in May 2013 without any escalating blocks—one was a school IP he called vandalism only''". Well, the block log for that IP - '''twelve''' previous blocks, including three of a year. The had two previous blocks, the last of two months, but as usual with these accounts, practically no useful edits, so I don't think such a block was unusual. If this amount of accuracy is repeated in the rest of PumpkinSky's allegations, this report is clearly a tit-for-tat response to his blocking and as such, is disruptive in itself. And, as previous mentioned, ] is still a redlink. ] (]) 10:26, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
* We now have a list of diffs, which add up to a enormous pile of ... not a lot. If PS ''genuinely'' thinks there is an issue here, it needs to go to RFCU. It certainly isn't an ArbCom issue. ] (]) 13:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

===Statement by Drmies===
That I didn't get blocked for calling someone a "pompous ass" is not evidence of much, certainly not of double standards. Whether someone gets blocked for something is probably much more dependent on how many people are watching, and who those people are. Having said that, I thought Doc James's block was over the top, but I cannot yet support sending this to arbitration since I also am not convinced of a pattern of administrative misconduct by Doc James. ] (]) 13:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*Update, and see notes below. I cannot say that I see enough evidence of abusive adminship here. Whether this is a case that ArbCom should take, I will leave that to others: I don't think all avenues are exhausted. What I have seen here is a bad block and a bad unblock, and a series of questionable protections. (I see nothing in the edit warring etc that causes me concern about Doc as an admin.) If this were an RfC/U I would have proposed that Doc no longer protect ''anything'' he has edited himself, for instance, but this isn't an RfC/U and therefore this is not the place for advice or recommendations.<p>In general, there certainly are misjudgment here, yes, but I cannot say that Doc is an abusive admin--though, again, I have problems with the protections. ] (]) 15:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
====Notes on some of the diffs presented====
*"Tells Keithbob and Littleolive oil not to post on his talk page"--Doc James has the right to ask editors not to post. Removing a comment in itself is not against any policy, nor is it evidence of admin abuse (and no admin tool is involved).
*"Deceptive in the WBB return"--one comments by one editor does not prove deception. "Involvement" and bad admin decisions require more than one such diff.
*"Published email by Roger Davies"--PumpkinSky may well have a point, but it seems to me that ] ("There is no community consensus regarding the posting of private off-wiki correspondence") and ] ("You should not post the email itself on the wiki without permission") are at odds.
*"Littleolive oil threats"--Doc's (later corrected) is of course inappropriate.
*The Fladrif affair--I thought Doc James's unblock was a very poor decision. The matter seemed to have been resolved with an apology; that Doc agreed with Fladrif on some TM proposals does not make them involved--not to the extent that it is necessarily an involved unblock. However, the unblock in itself, I repeat, was really poor.
*7Mike5000--there was a block, and the blockee protested, alleging abuse. Chris Cunningham drops by to say there was nothing controversial about it.
*"Deceptive in the WBB return"--one comment by one person.
*"2 year blocks"--perhaps a bit long for , but not abusive, and (but 2 years is not crazy).
*"Edit war with Sthubbar over Osteoarthritis", "Edit war with 32cllou", "Edit war with Garycompugeek"--no use of the tools by Doc James.
*Protection of articles Doc James has edited himself: that seems clear.

===Statement by Ched===
It appears likely that I should make a statement here; however, due to time constraints imposed by real life I may not be able to provide a considered statement until some time after Monday. While I may be able to make a wiki-post here and there throughout the weekend - I request this space as a placeholder until I am able to provide a proper post to this board. I will have a question or two for the committee. Thank you. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 13:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

===Comment by MONGO===
The block on PumkinSky was extremely excessive (48 hours), unnecessary, created more drama and bad feelings, and in the worst case, as PumpkinSky seems to be indicating, may have been for revenge. Doc James needs to also be extremely cautious about threatening to block those that are posting to his talkpage as that sort of thing is best handled by a third party administrator. I don't know that there is enough here for a case, but we are bordering on an admonishment being needed on Doc James' administrative actions and/or threats of actions. We don't want administrators to misuse either their tools '''or''' their positions.--] 14:15, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by Collect ===

Admins should be well-apprised by now that using admin powers on ''any'' page where they have made substantive edits, or made substantive edits on related pages is ''likely'' to be viewed as improper, and Doc J should be on notice. Also that he is now reasonably considered an "involved admin" with regard to PS. Does this cover the entire problem? ] (]) 14:33, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

===Statement by Keithbob===
I have long had concerns about Jmh649's judgement and I expressed these concerns at his RfA. He has a long history of edit warring and has been sanctioned for this in the past (before his RfA). Since then, it appears he continues to edit war on medical related topics under the veil of Adminship as part of his war against new users who disagree with him on content issues. To me this appears to be a long standing mis-behavior and mis-use of tools against editors whom he is in disputes with. The Fladrif and Pumpkin Sky incidents are both recent and egregious and I would encourage ArbCom to consider taking this case.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:12, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by olive ===
Our Admin policy states, "Administrators are expected to lead by example..."

'''Consistency''': Either our admin are expected to lead by example or they aren't. I am aware of a situation where an arb/admin blocked an admin for a week for a single statement stating another editor was lying. The reason given was that admins are held to a higher standard than other editors. Are admins held to higher standards than other editors? The standard has to be in place for all editors with out discriminating.

'''Dismissing evidence''': Further, the diffs posted by PSky deserve attention. There are enough diffs that show patterns of both less than exemplary admin behaviour and poor judgement in the use of admin tools to warrant investigation. As an point: Admins should not use their tools to threaten editors they are and have been highly involved with as James did here. . Further, James did not redact his statement until he was threatened with a desysop proceedings. Is that poor judgement or a blatant misuse of admin power to threaten and harass.

'''Productive member of the community''': Doc James is a highly productive and influential admin both on and off Misplaced Pages. He is an emergency room Doc, and such MD's must act quickly and unilaterally in many cases. He also edits through the night possibly suffering from fatigue while he edits as I've seen him admit (per his user page and his own comments) Many of Doc's contentious actions are unilateral, for example the use of his tools to threaten, and overturning blocks with out consulting the blocking admin., clear cases where he should have asked for other admin assistance. If a certain kind of behaviour is acceptable in RL, even necessary, but not here, and I know I'm making connections here that may not exist, just trying to be fair, well the community must say so from positions that an editor will be forced to listen to, which not only protects the encyclopedia but supports and educates James as an effective admin. There's a lot at stake here too much to ignore, in my opinion.

Disclaimer: I have had interactions with James on and off for about three-four years.(] (]) 20:33, 22 June 2013 (UTC))

Frankly that James continues to try and implicate PSky rather than deal with the case against him with out any sense that he is taking anything to heart isn't exactly heartening.(] (]) 20:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC))

=== Statement by Gerda Arendt ===

I had no interactions that I remember with Doc James. I don't have time to investigate a long history but observed two recent actions that I found irritating:
* the unblock of Fladrif without contacting the blocking admin before doing so
* the block of PumpkinSky for a strong phrase, no more

I see "qualities" that I find undesirable in an admin, especially if they are only the tip of an iceberg, as it seems, --] (]) 21:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by Count Iblis===
PumpkinSky, if this case had been presented when you were an Arbitrator here, would you have proposed to desysop Doc James? ] (]) 00:45, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Statement by Diannaa ===
The problem is, he is protecting articles on his own that he should be listing at RFPP. He is jumping directly to indefinite semi when the usual way is to escalate, starting with a short protection. "Anyone can edit" is one of the pillars. Time and again the community has requested we require editors to create accounts, but the present rules do not call for it. Not only does this fly in the face of one of the pillars, he is setting himself up as a "supereditor" on the suite of medical articles. Don't get me wrong, I think we should semi-protect the entire encyclopedia. The medical articles are super important and it's important that we get it right. But as an admin I am bound to follow the rules as they currently exist. And so should he.

===Statement by KumiokoCleanStart===
I am completely uninvolved in this and although I saw a couple of the actions happen on my watchlist I didn't put anything together until this case appeared. I have looked through a lot of the actions presented as well as a review of actions by Doc James and it seems as though there is some evidence to support inappropriate action. One incident doesn't warrant a desysopping, but there are a lot of diffs and a lot of evidence supporting the potential that this admin acted inappropriately on several (but not all listed) occasions. The admins seems to act rashly and uses extreme measures frequently such as long blocks when short ones will do. Whether this has risen to the level of Arbcom action depends on whether the Admin could be desysopped outside this venue if they are deemed to be acting inappropriately. If the answer to that question is yes, then certainly another venue such as ANI or mediation could be appropriate. If however this is the only venue that supports a potential desysopping then this case should be handled here.

=== Clerk notes ===
:''This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).''

=== Jmh649: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0/3> ===
{{anchor|1=Jmh649: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse/other)</small>

*Based on what has been posted so far, I don't perceive the need for an arbitration case. Several of the administrator actions PumpkinSky describes were correct and others at least defensible. However, I do hope that after this week Doc James will be a little more cautious with civility-based blocks, and it mght be best for him to stay away from any administrator actions relating to editors active on the Transcendental meditation topic-area&mdash;I would appreciate comments on that. ] (]) 12:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*I think I would decline this case request, but I will withhold my vote for a day or two until more statements are given and I have had the opportunity to review background for this matter. Given that Jmh649 has apparently committed no egregious administrator misconduct (and that the accusations relate to poor judgement rather than outright abuse), I would expect all other methods of resolving the present concerns to have been attempted before we allow arbitration. However, this case request seems to be the first attempt at DR – when it ought to have been the last resort. ] ]] 14:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
*I'm not entirely sold on the idea that we can desysop (or impose other sysop-only sanctions on) someone for actions which don't involve the use of admin tools, except in particularly serious cases, such as harassment (though I concede that there is ample precedent against my opinion) and in the diffs which have been provided there is nothing really egregious. That said, '''at first glance''', the evidence so far seems to show that Jmh649 sometimes has a peculiar interpretation of ], which is indeed troubling {{endash}} I am referring, in particular, to the cases where he protected pages after heavily editing them. That's probably something that ArbCom should look at; then again, the previous attempts at dispute resolution have, so far, only involved the so-called drama boards. So, for the moment, I'll go with '']'', though I'll revisit my vote once more opinions have been expressed. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> ''']'''</span> ] 15:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
**I think there is a significant difference between an administrator semiprotecting a page he or she edits regularly because of a content dispute, which would be troublesome, and the administrator's semiprotecting the page because of persistent vandalism or spamming, which would not trouble me at all, especially on medical articles. I do not see evidence that any of the protection actions PumpkinSky has listed were taken for the forbidden purpose of gaining an advantage in a content dispute. ] (]) 22:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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About this page

Use this page to request the committee open an arbitration case. To be accepted, an arbitration request needs 4 net votes to "accept" (or a majority).

Arbitration is a last resort. WP:DR lists the other, escalating processes that should be used before arbitration. The committee will decline premature requests.

Requests may be referred to as "case requests" or "RFARs"; once opened, they become "cases". Before requesting arbitration, read the arbitration guide to case requests. Then click the button below. Complete the instructions quickly; requests incomplete for over an hour may be removed. Consider preparing the request in your userspace.

To request enforcement of an existing arbitration ruling, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. To clarify or change an existing arbitration ruling, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment.


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Guidance on participation and word limits

Unlike many venues on Misplaced Pages, ArbCom imposes word limits. Please observe the below notes on complying with word limits.

  • Motivation. Word limits are imposed to promote clarity and focus on the issues at hand and to ensure that arbitrators are able to fully take in submissions. Arbitrators must read a large volume of information across many matters in the course of their service on the Committee, so submissions that exceed word limits may be disregarded. For the sake of fairness and to discourage gamesmanship (i.e., to disincentivize "asking forgiveness rather than permission"), word limits are actively enforced.
  • In general. Most submissions to the Arbitration Committee (including statements in arbitration case requests and ARCAs and evidence submissions in arbitration cases) are limited to 500 words, plus 50 diffs. During the evidence phase of an accepted case, named parties are granted an automatic extension to 1000 words plus 100 diffs.
  • Sectioned discussion. To facilitate review by arbitrators, you should edit only in your own section. Address your submission to arbitrators, not to other participants. If you wish to rebut, clarify, or otherwise refer to another submission for the benefit of arbitrators, you may do so within your own section. (More information.)
  • Requesting an extension. You may request a word limit extension in your submission itself (using the {{@ArbComClerks}} template) or by emailing clerks-l@lists.wikimedia.org. In your request, you should briefly (in 1-2 sentences) include (a) why you need additional words and (b) a broad outline of what you hope to discuss in your extended submission. The Committee endeavors to act upon extension requests promptly and aims to offer flexibility where warranted.
    • Members of the Committee may also grant extensions when they ask direct questions to facilitate answers to those questions.
  • Refactoring statements. You should write carefully and concisely from the start. It is impermissible to rewrite a statement to shorten it after a significant amount of time has passed or after anyone has responded to it (see Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines § Editing own comments), so it is often advisable to submit a brief initial statement to leave room to respond to other users if the need arises.
  • Sign submissions. In order for arbitrators and other participants to understand the order of submissions, sign your submission and each addition (using ~~~~).
  • Word limit violations. Submissions that exceed the word limit will generally be "hatted" (collapsed), and arbitrators may opt not to consider them.
  • Counting words. Words are counted on the rendered text (not wikitext) of the statement (i.e., the number of words that you would see by copy-pasting the page section containing your statement into a text editor or word count tool). This internal gadget may also be helpful.
  • Sanctions. Please note that members and clerks of the Committee may impose appropriate sanctions when necessary to promote the effective functioning of the arbitration process.

General guidance

  • This page is for statements, not discussion.
  • Arbitrators or clerks may refactor or delete statements, e.g. off-topic or unproductive remarks, without warning.
  • Banned users may request arbitration via the committee contact page; don't try to edit this page.
  • Under no circumstances should you remove requests from this page, or open a case (even for accepted requests), unless you are an arbitrator or clerk.
  • After a request is filed, the arbitrators will vote on accepting or declining the case. The <0/0/0> tally counts the arbitrators voting accept/decline/recuse.
  • Declined case requests are logged at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Index/Declined requests. Accepted case requests are opened as cases, and logged at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Index/Cases once closed.