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December 24

00:17, 24 December 2024 review of submission by Nycrest

• Nycrest (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Venhue (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello - I added the appropriate sources (NBC, PIX11, etc.) and cleaned up the article to be neutral based on the rules (no promotion) Nycrest (talk) 00:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Nycrest "no promotion"? I don't see how unorthodox approach to fine dining, theatrical presentations, and playful irreverence towards traditional fine dining conventions is neutral. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I am quoting the videos that are sourced. Is there another way of doing quotes? Is there an article you can reference for how to handle quotes from journalists?

I am unsure how unorthodox and irreverence towards fine dining is good thing? Wouldn't promotion equal something of value? There is nothing on Misplaced Pages that says something is unorthodox.. as unorthodox is a promotional word? I cannot seem to phrase this in a non-promotion way based on what is considered neutral, the page is already pretty bare bones. I will attempt again to make edits and will see how it works out; Thanks for your time. Nycrest (talk) 14:45, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not seeing how this establishment meets WP:ORG- you just summarize the offerings of the establishment. If the establishment is "unorthodox" you need to go into detail as to what sources say is unorthodox about it beyond just a statement that its business practices are unorthodox. 331dot (talk) 14:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

02:27, 24 December 2024 review of submission by Hedax212

• Hedax212 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Signatures, INC. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I want this company to get some recognition, I have no relation to either founder and have never written a wikipedia article before but there is nothing online about them. I purchased one of their ornaments as new old stock on ebay and wanted to find out more about it and was even able to track down one of the founders Micheal Leban and was able to have a small interview with him where the majority of this information comes from. They essentially pioneered a niche automotive accesory field at a time where hood ornaments were going out of fashion. I made a rough draft and don't know what I need to do now to have it published. Hedax212 (talk) 02:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Hedax212 to submit the draft you need to click the big blue button near the top. However note that with the only source being US patent number US4988065A, it is unlikely to be accepted. Please see Help:Your first article first. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

There is next to no information publically available on the company, I only know most of this from the packaging of a unit I purchased and a brief conversation with one of the previous owners. Hedax212 (talk) 02:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately that means they are likely not notable. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Possibly, my personal feelings on the matter are that they quite literally pioneered a niche field. To my knowledge they were the first company to make aftermarket hood ornaments. Hedax212 (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Without these things, there can't be an article. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 05:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

02:55, 24 December 2024 review of submission by MarkDiBelloBiographer

• MarkDiBelloBiographer (talk · contribs) 
  • Mark Anthony DiBello (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Is it possible to delete a photo? I know I can replace one, but if I insert a photo box, it seems I can never remove it. I would hate to add a photo which I can never remove. MarkDiBelloBiographer (talk) 02:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Mark Anthony DiBello Knitsey (talk) 03:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@MarkDiBelloBiographer: I don't know what a 'photo box' is, or why you wouldn't be able to remove one if you can insert one; I can only assume you're talking about something to do with the visual editor, of which I've very little experience. In the source editing mode, you can certainly remove any trace of an earlier image.

Having said all that, your draft looks like some sort of personal tribute page or similar, not least because of the excessive use of family/personal photographs. These are quite inappropriate for an encyclopaedia, in my opinion at least.

On a separate point, your user name clearly suggests some sort of connection with the subject. This has been queried on your talk page, but I don't see that you've responded to the query. Could you do that now, please. If you are being paid or otherwise rewarded for your edits, you must make a paid-editing-disclosure. Even if you're not, but otherwise have an external relationship with the subject, you must make a general conflict-of-interest (COI) disclosure. Please attend to this matter promptly. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

06:57, 24 December 2024 review of submission by Muhammedramees18

• Muhammedramees18 (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Muhammedramees18/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why My edit is declined? Muhammed Ramees E P (talk) 06:57, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Muhammedramees18: your draft was not just declined, it was actually rejected (meaning, the end of the road), because it offers no evidence of notability, not to mention that it is entirely promotional and written purely from the subject's point of view.

What is your relationship with this school? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I am a Co Founder of this school. Muhammed Ramees E P (talk) 07:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Muhammedramees18: in that case, you have a conflict of interest, and need to make a paid-editing-disclosure. I have posted instructions on your talk page. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @Muhammedramees18. Writing a new article is much more difficult than it looks, and editors who try it without first spending a significant amount of time learning how Misplaced Pages works often have a frustrating and disappointing experience. It is even more difficult when the editors has a conflict of interest. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.

A Misplaced Pages article should be a summary of what independent reliable sources have published about a subject, and very little else. Misplaced Pages has essentially no interest in what your school says or wants to say about itself, only in what wholly independent commentators have published about it. For many schools, that is little or nothing: if that is the case, then no article on the school is possible.

Note also that if ever Misplaced Pages has an article about your school, whoever writes it, the article will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, will not necessarily say what you want it to say, and may be edited by almost anybody in the world except you and your colleagues. Please see an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 12:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

07:35, 24 December 2024 review of submission by 223.190.86.242

• 223.190.86.242 (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Omd-course/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

how to submit an article, can you give me any solution for update an article 223.190.86.242 (talk) 07:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a guide about universities in India and your submission is not appropriate as an encyclopedic article. It has been rejected and will not be considered any further. cyberdog958 07:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

08:04, 24 December 2024 review of submission by Sunuraju

• Sunuraju (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Hum Dono (2024 TV series) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

should i seek help for rebelibe or rewrite by another editors for draft? Sunuraju (talk) 08:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

10:27, 24 December 2024 review of submission by JustBeenji

• JustBeenji (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Henry Stickmin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have a question. Can you or i or anyone get editorship? Because making this page better can be good. JustBeenji (talk) 10:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@JustBeenji: you are an editor. So am I. So is pretty much anyone else who has ever edited any page on Misplaced Pages.

But no editor can magic notability out of thin air, and without evidence of notability, this draft cannot be published. Which is why it has been rejected. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

So do i have to create a new draft? JustBeenji (talk) 11:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@JustBeenji: in a word, no. Misplaced Pages is not for things made up one day. There is absolutely nothing in this draft that would suggest the subject is even remotely notable, and therefore no matter how many drafts you create on it, none of them would be accepted. (You would, however, almost certainly get yourself blocked, eventually.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

But Henry Stickmin is popular! Why not? -- JustBeenji JustBeenji (talk) 12:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

As mentioned above, because you haven't provided a single source that indicates that this is a notable game. It could be notable, as it does seem to be a popular series of point-and-click video games, but the draft itself is so sparsely written that it's nearly impossible to even identify who or what Henry Stickmin is, let alone present the case for this being a notable video game series. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@JustBeenji: Popularity is fleeting, notability is forever. Without sources, you cannot demonstrate the latter. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 18:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

11:39, 24 December 2024 review of submission by SarahSamuell

• SarahSamuell (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Sacred Heart School ( Alexandria ) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

i put 2 references and it also got rejected , what else should i do?? SarahSamuell (talk) 11:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

All new articles on Misplaced Pages have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Your two sources do not do this, they just show the subject exists. Posts on social media such as pinterest are also not reliable sources in most cases. Also most of your content was unsourced. Also see WP:NSCHOOL and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. KylieTastic (talk) 11:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @SarahSamuell. Please see my lengthy reply to Muhammedramees18 above, most of which applies to you as well. ColinFine (talk) 12:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

In addition to what has already been said, there are serious problems with the photographs as you've uploaded them to Commons and credited them as your own work. Naturally, I am skeptical you took these photos personally over an 84-year period. If these are not your photos, you need to make them fully compliant with Misplaced Pages's non-free content policies, which can be found at WP:NFC. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

And please don't resubmit a draft that has already been rejected. If you disagree with the rejection, the way to address this is to take it up with the rejecting reviewer directly. And we have already discussed this on your talk page. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

14:09, 24 December 2024 review of submission by WikiBaltimore

• WikiBaltimore (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Turner Development (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. An article I recently submitted "Turner Development" was just declined for "appears to read like an advertisement". Here is the entire submission.....

"Turner Development is a real estate development company based in Maryland. Turner Development specializes in ground up and Adaptive reuse renovations. Notable projects include Silo Point Condominium in Locust Point, Baltimore, 1211 Light St, McHenry Pointe, Federal Hill Lofts in Federal Hill, Baltimore, Henrietta Square, Holy Cross Condominiums and McHenry Theater."

I disagree with the "appears to read like an advertisement" and would like you to please reconsider the submission. None of 3 sentences are subjective or in any way promoting Turner Development, just facts that were backed by the numerous references submitted with the article. What was submitted are just 3 factual sentences to start a wikipedia page for other Wiki community members to contribute as they see fit.

For example, Silo Point is one of projects mentioned and an outstanding wiki page has grown over the years around the history and facts on the former grain elevators story. The other projects listed in the original submission also have an incredible historical story to tell by the wiki community for their significant impact they have played in Marylands past.

Thank you for you reconsideration and insight as to what/how the 3 would need to be reworded to make sure they meet wiki guidelines and a new page is create to help spur greater conversations on the wiki community about the signitical historic locations listed in the original submission. ~ Happy Hollidays. WikiBaltimore (talk) 14:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@WikiBaltimore: Misplaced Pages articles summarise what independent and reliable secondary sources have previously said about a subject and what makes it worthy of note. Your draft, on the other hand, merely states that the subject exists, and gives very much the impression that it is the subject telling the world about itself (which is the definition of promotion, see WP:YESPROMO), with a dozen sources tagged at the end for WP:REFBOMBING purposes.

Do you happen to work for, or with, Turner Development, by any chance? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

The references are about the projects Turner Development has been involved in, not, about Turner Development, the company, mostly about Silo Point, which does already have an article. And the references are just slapped in a giant bucket at the end rather than supporting factual information with in-line citations. What are the sources for the notability of these other projects besides Silo Point? What is the source for specifically concluding that the company "specializes in ground up and Adaptive reuse renovations?" You can't simply infer that from the listed projects as that's WP:OR. At the end of the day, the article doesn't really even tell us anything about Turner Development. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Well said, thank you for the feedback WikiBaltimore (talk) 16:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

14:21, 24 December 2024 review of submission by Juanestebanfernandez

• Juanestebanfernandez (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Juanestebanfernandez/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I don't undertstand why my page has been suspended, i was the most parcial i could and y followed all the recomendations you gave me. Please i need help publishing this. Juanestebanfernandez (talk) 14:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Juanestebanfernandez: your draft was declined because it doesn't demonstrate that the subject is notable. There is also nothing to indicate where all that information comes from, let alone that it comes from reliable and independent secondary sources.

Do you represent Trusted Interpreters or CSA Research in any way? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

It's not written in an encyclopedic manner, the text itself is complete unsourced with only some general tangentially related sites listed at the end, it looks like AI was heavily used in creating it, and we already have far superior information of this type at articles like Language interpretation. Yes, the article focuses on interpretation services in the US rather than generally, but there's almost no actual specific US-related content other than a couple unsourced facts. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

21:23, 24 December 2024 review of submission by CerebralPathfinder

• CerebralPathfinder (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:DogAdvisor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why has my article been denied? I'd like to ask why my content has been declined and what I can do to add it CerebralPathfinder (talk) 21:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

CerebralPathfinder I fixed your post to provide a link to your draft as intended. Did you see the message left by the reviewer? 331dot (talk) 21:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

ah yes just seen! thank you CerebralPathfinder (talk) 21:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I see that the draft is sourced entirely to company materials. Instead, it should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Misplaced Pages definition of a notable company.

If you work for this company, that must be disclosed, see WP:PAID, as well as conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 21:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

December 25

05:21, 25 December 2024 review of submission by NOMAN ABBASS

• NOMAN ABBASS (talk · contribs) 
  • Above Ground Pool Removal Cost - Average Prices in 2025 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I've made edits , provided sources and references yet my article hasn't been accepted . I don't understand why . I request clarification please help me NOMAN ABBASS (talk) 05:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@NOMAN ABBASS: We do not accept guides. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 05:51, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

06:02, 25 December 2024 review of submission by Anonymous 21710

• Anonymous 21710 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Sree Udhyan .M (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

can you please tell me what are the problems that can occur while publishing this article.

Anonymous 21710 (talk) 06:02, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@Anonymous21710: Not only is this draft blatantly promotional and entirely unsourced, the subject is a minor and we err on not having articles on minors simply because that destroys any chance they have at a private life. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 06:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

08:29, 25 December 2024 review of submission by NakiwugeFlorence

• NakiwugeFlorence (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Waya Boy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

What article do they need, because they are many but may be jam not choosing the right ones NakiwugeFlorence (talk) 08:29, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@NakiwugeFlorence: a musician would need to demonstrate notability via either the general WP:GNG or the special WP:MUSICBIO guideline. Carefully study those guidelines, they will tell you exactly what evidence of notability you would need to provide. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Check my sources and help fix where i went wrong NakiwugeFlorence (talk) 08:40, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@NakiwugeFlorence: I have no need to check your sources; an experienced reviewer has done so, and rejected your draft. This means it will not be considered further. If you have sources demonstrating notability which weren't considered at the most recent review, you may appeal directly to the rejecting reviewer. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:46, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

13:27, 25 December 2024 review of submission by KimJongUnsBasement

• KimJongUnsBasement (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Pau Quesada (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

It keeps getting rejected. I don’t know what they want me to do now, there isn’t much information on Quesada, and most of his articles are in Spanish. KimJongUnsBasement (talk) 13:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

It wasn't "rejected" until the last time, it was "declined" before that(declined means resubmission is possible) If there isn't much information about them, that is a strong indicator they do not merit a Misplaced Pages article at this time. Sources do not need to be in English. 331dot (talk) 13:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

I don’t know what do. I added citations, but still it gets declined. I’ve seen far worst Misplaced Pages Articles be accepted. Please just accept it and other people can add on to it, it’s not like it’s a protective page, anyone can edit and help me out. I know you’re probably gonna say no, (if you even read in the first place) because of what’s on your user page, but it was worth a try. KimJongUnsBasement (talk) 14:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@KimJongUnsBasement: footballers have to demonstrate notability per WP:GNG, which requires 3+ solid sources. This draft cites none.

What is your involvement with this draft? It was created by a blocked user. Are you somehow associated with them? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

KimJonUnsBasement Please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections for every post you make. This process is usually voluntary; if you wish to disregard what reviewers are telling you, you can move it to the encyclopedia yourself, but you run the risk of it being put up for a deletion discussion.

As for other articles, see other stuff exists. Not all articles have gone through this process. If you see reviewers accepting "worse" articles, please identify those articles. 331dot (talk) 14:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Drafts do not need to be complete, but they need to meet the most basic criteria. Your draft does not. 331dot (talk) 14:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

I was reading about him on TransferMarket and searched him up on Misplaced Pages until notice he didn’t have an English Misplaced Pages Page. I have no involvement with the person who created the page KimJongUnsBasement (talk) 14:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

14:00, 25 December 2024 review of submission by 2.190.166.198

• 2.190.166.198 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:SOBI (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

this person is a famous rapper in iran . please recheck my article 2.190.166.198 (talk) 14:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, this has been rejected so will not be considered further. qcne (talk) 14:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

14:01, 25 December 2024 review of submission by Amjsso

• Amjsso (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Amjsso/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I just wanted to create a politician page Amjsso (talk) 14:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Amjsso, have you read the policy at WP:VERIFY? Everything on Misplaced Pages must have reliable, published sources. Your draft is entirely unsourced. qcne (talk) 14:03, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

18:44, 25 December 2024 review of submission by Sanjaygowda18

• Sanjaygowda18 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:SANJAY GOWDA S G (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My page is deleted without any valid reasons retrieve the page Sanjaygowda18 (talk) 18:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

He is one of the advocat in Bangalore who is helping out the poor people Sanjaygowda18 (talk) 18:47, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Please don't write spam on Misplaced Pages, which is what your draft was. If you want to learn how to write an encyclopedic article that complies with our policies, please visit Help:Your first article. qcne (talk) 18:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

23:20, 25 December 2024 review of submission by AngelicaMonsalud

• AngelicaMonsalud (talk · contribs) 
  • User:AngelicaMonsalud/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I would like to know how to improve your tone writing in a formal way? AngelicaMonsalud (talk) 23:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

For starters limit what you write to what is in the sources, currently most of the draft is without a single source. Theroadislong (talk) 23:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

December 26

06:11, 26 December 2024 review of submission by 117.254.37.23

• 117.254.37.23 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:ATMECS Global (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My draft article has been rejected multiple times and I am trying to get it approved. I will submit one more edit. I request any experienced editors to help me refine this article so I can get it approved before Jan 1, 2025. Appreciate the community's help. 117.254.37.23 (talk) 06:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Firstly, if you're Ssaisushanth45, please log into your account whenever editing.

Secondly, bear in mind that as a paid user, you are not allowed to attempt publishing this yourself; you must go through the AfC review system (as you are now doing).

I cannot find any multiple rejections or even declines. One version was deleted from the main article space for being purely promotional. Another was moved into the draft space, where it has been declined ones. Or have you created this under other titles and/or other user accounts?

It isn't clear what support you require. Please ask specific questions, if you have any.

We do not get involved in co-editing here at the help desk. More generally, you will struggle to find anyone in the wider community to do that, on a subject in which few other editors have any interest. Besides, you are being paid to create this, not us (we're all volunteers), so why would anyone else do your job for you?

As for your Jan 1 deadline (whether self- or externally imposed), that isn't a consideration for us. Misplaced Pages is not edited to a deadline.

Finally, you yourself should read, and more to the point show to you boss, this: WP:BOSS. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks DoubleGrazing. I had published the article and was put into Speedy Deletion mode. After a couple of back and forths, one of the reviewers had moved the article to draft space. There are no other versions. Not sure how you interpret "I request any experienced editors to help me refine this article so I can get it approved before Jan 1, 2025" for this

"We do not get involved in co-editing here at the help desk. More generally, you will struggle to find anyone in the wider community to do that, on a subject in which few other editors have any interest. Besides, you are being paid to create this, not us (we're all volunteers), so why would anyone else do your job for you?

As for your Jan 1 deadline (whether self- or externally imposed), that isn't a consideration for us."

Other reviewers were kind enough to point out areas in my article which violated certain rules - I was merely requesting more of the same once I submit my edited version for review and noting this is a priority for me.

Ssaisushanth45 (talk) 06:55, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ssaisushanth45: if all you're requesting is another review (after you resubmit your draft), then that is what you will get anyway; there is no need to request it in advance here at the help desk. When you get your review is another matter; we have over 1,800 pending drafts in the system, the oldest have been waiting for two months, and therefore we cannot promise this will happen before your deadline. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:05, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

06:47, 26 December 2024 review of submission by Ramakrishnan.babug

• Ramakrishnan.babug (talk · contribs) 
  • Babu Ramakrishnan.G (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

May I know the reason for rejecting my article?

Ramakrishnan.babug (talk) 06:47, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ramakrishnan.babug Misplaced Pages is not for self-promotion. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 06:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

15:22, 26 December 2024 review of submission by Shaurya4455

• Shaurya4455 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Shaurya 2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

regarding to uploading a new page or Article i want upload my self article on Misplaced Pages how can i upload it Shaurya4455 (talk) 15:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Your draft has been rejected there is zero evidence that you pass the criteria at WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 15:26, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Shaurya4455 (ec) I fixed your post to provide a link to your draft as intended. The short answer to your question is, you don't. Misplaced Pages is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. Please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 15:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

19:25, 26 December 2024 review of submission by CorosanD

• CorosanD (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Michail Boiadjiev (Михаил Бояджиев) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Would you tell me what is missing or not done right in the latest draft of the article, so to be sure it would be accepted next time when submitted ? Thank you. CorosanD (talk) 19:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

@CorosanD: That's the purpose of the review – submit the draft if you think it is ready, and the reviewer will evaluate whether anything is missing. --bonadea contributions talk 19:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @CorosanD. I'm afraid that what is not done right is exactly what most people do when they try the challenging task of creating a Misplaced Pages article before spending time learning how Misplaced Pages works. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.

Specifically: large parts of your draft are unreferenced, which suggests that you wrote the draft BACKWARDS, starting with what you know, rather than starting with what your sources said. Misplaced Pages isn't intersted in what you know (or what I know): it is only interested in what reliable published sources say.

Furthermore, not many of your sources meet the triple criteria of being reliable, independent, and containing significant coverage of Boladjiev - see WP:42.

Next, external references are almost never permitted within the text of an article, and should be removed. I see that one of them is in fact to an article in another Misplaced Pages (bg-wiki). You can wikilink to that using the template {{ill}}: so {{ill|Union of Bulgarian Composers|bg|Съюз на Българските Композитори}} is displayed as Union of Bulgarian Composers  - a redlink because there is no such article in the English Misplaced Pages, but with the blue "" link to the Bulgarian article. If ever somebody write the English article, the template will automatically link to it.

The last point is that I believe that all the images you have uploaded are copyright violations, and I have nominated most of them for deletion. (I have left the poster, because I think it is probably below the COM:Threshold of originality, and so is in the public domain).

You have claimed that all these images are your own work, which I very much doubt, and you have purported to grant a licence on them: unless you actually do hold the copyright on these images, you do not have the legal power to do so. Please see image use policy. However, the presence or absence of images does not affect whether a draft is accepted, so I suggest you remove the images, and worry about getting properly licensed copies later on. ColinFine (talk) 20:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

User has had a helpful discussion in the IRC Live Chat where we've gone over the copyright issues and source issues. Thanks for your excellent advice too, @ColinFine qcne (talk) 20:45, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

December 27

03:24, 27 December 2024 review of submission by Fuzzpumpkin

• Fuzzpumpkin (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Office Hours Live (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I'm asking for any advice on how to get this article approved.

Today, I cited every paragraph and attempted to strip it of all subjective, opinionated language. I really hope I can get this done! Thank you. Fuzzpumpkin (talk) 03:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Fuzzpumpkin Instead of reviewing it formally I have left you a comment which I hope you will find useful. The comment shows what would prejudice acceptance. I have not checked beyond that comment. When you are happy, please resubmit for review 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 12:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

08:01, 27 December 2024 review of submission by Al Gattany

• Al Gattany (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Mohammad Hossain (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Reject my article reason copyright license: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n3LSZFQHZoNZPJJVyJ-F5kmHApr5wLyM/view?usp=drivesdk Al Gattany (talk) 08:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Al Gattany: I'm not sure what you're asking, but the source from where the content was copied clearly claims copyright. All the document in your Google Drive folder says is who owns the domain name, which has nothing to do with this matter. (And for future reference, please don't link to cloud drive content, many users are rightly concerned about clicking on such links.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok thanks Al Gattany (talk) 08:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Al Gattany, your draft completely fails to make the case that Mohammad Hossain is a Notable person deserving of a Misplaced Pages article. Cullen328 (talk) 08:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

12:42, 27 December 2024 review of submission by Itsfaizanfaizi

• Itsfaizanfaizi (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Hafeez Center (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please assist me with how I can make edits to my article. I didn't understand where I was making mistakes and how to avoid them. I'll be grateful as a newbie. So, please mentor me while editing. Itsfaizanfaizi (talk) 12:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Itsfaizanfaizi Please look at not only my recent second decline, but the body of the article, where I have left a ,multitude of tags designed to help you. Then come back here and ask further questions in this thread explaining what extra information you would like 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 12:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

I addressed the peacock prose by removing or rephrasing exaggerated terms and subjective descriptions. And also add citations for indepth and reliable resources. Itsfaizanfaizi (talk) 13:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Itsfaizanfaizi I have not looked to check, nor will I. I trust what you have said; thank you. If you are confident that this is likely to be accepted then please resubmit for review. If you lack that confidence, then do additional work before resubmissiom. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 13:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately another reviewer found that the work done was not sufficient and rejected it, still as a blatant advert. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 08:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

16:09, 27 December 2024 review of submission by 2001:4453:7FF:6500:F461:BEF6:7CEC:5689

• 2001:4453:7FF:6500:F461:BEF6:7CEC:5689 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Julian Alturas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Can someone help me to edit his biography enable for it to be accepted. 2001:4453:7FF:6500:F461:BEF6:7CEC:5689 (talk) 16:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

We don't provide co-editing services here; it's up to you to show that this person is notable. 331dot (talk) 16:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

18:58, 27 December 2024 review of submission by Kolorguide

• Kolorguide (talk · contribs) 
  • Dyne Test Pens in Quality Control: Ensuring Surface Tension Accuracy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am trying to publish something about quality control and specifically about dyne test pens, on the page it shows me the following title: "Dyne Test Pens in Quality Control: Ensuring Surface Tension Accuracy" Please check draft title. No such draft exists Kolorguide (talk) 18:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

The name in your sandbox unimportant; the reviewer, if accepted, would give it the appropriate title. The larger problem is that this reads like a largely unsourced essay, and it's very far away from being a Misplaced Pages-appropriate article. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

19:00, 27 December 2024 review of submission by Movied Freak

• Movied Freak (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Movied Freak/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

what should i have to add ? Movied Freak (talk) 19:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Movied Freak YouTube and IMDB are unacceptable sources as they are user-generated. YouTube videos produced by a reputable news outlet or similar may be acceptable if on a verified channel. The film is also unreleased, meaning it does not yet merit an article(see notability of future films) unless you can show that there was something unusual about the production of the film(beyond casting announcements, release of trailers, etc.) 331dot (talk) 19:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

20:20, 27 December 2024 review of submission by Abu muttalib

• Abu muttalib (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Deepali Sahay (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The aproval to draft of my article is declined. Wanted and instructed to post here to know. Abu muttalib (talk) 20:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Abu muttalib is posting a request here all that you understood from the detailed decline rationale? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 20:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Abu muttalib Please see the message by the reviewer as to why it was declined and what you can do about it.

I see that you took an image of this person, what is your connection to her? 331dot (talk) 20:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I got it. I resubmitted with one more additional independent verifiable source.

As such, no direct connection, except that I was viewer of the said shows and she is from my place. I am a admirer of her singing and wanted a page on Misplaced Pages for her similar to the Misplaced Pages page of her husband, which has even a Misplaced Pages page for both of their common friends Meiyang Chang. The image is clipped and cropped from one of her YouTube videos. Let me share the link. Abu muttalib (talk) 21:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Abu muttalib Please do not clip images from anywhere unless their licencing is suitable and allows onward use. File:Deepali Sahay.jpg is being dealt with on Wikimedia Commons and will be deleted unless you follow the process at c:COM:VRT to show that you have permission and/or that the licence at the Youtube video allowed you to upload it. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Abu muttalib Further; Words/phases such as famous, prestigious, ventured into tend to be words of praise, and reduce your draft to advertorial. Please look at your phraseology carefully. We require flat, neutral, dull-but-worthy prose asserting facts and verifying them with citations. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Let me rephrase the whole article. Abu muttalib (talk) 09:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

At Draft talk:Deepali Sahay you say that there is already an article about her at Deepali Kishore. There cannot be two articles about the same person, so you should not resubmit the draft. (It was disruptive to resubmit it without any changes after the previous decline.) The existing article is in very bad shape – it was created long before the draft process existed, so it has never been reviewed or "accepted", but it can be edited and improved. However, unless there are indeed sources showing that she is notable, that article will be deleted. --bonadea contributions talk 09:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

OK. It can be removed. I have the concerned person to send her image so that there is no licensing issue. Abu muttalib (talk) 09:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Abu muttalib Note that she might not hold the copyright to images of her; typically it belongs with the photographer. As I said images are not relevant to getting your draft approved, I would suggest focusing on that first, before worrying about images. 331dot (talk) 09:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

22:47, 27 December 2024 review of submission by 2600:1702:2F70:C990:B1B1:D8DA:C8EE:6746

• 2600:1702:2F70:C990:B1B1:D8DA:C8EE:6746 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Allen A. Dennard Jr. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your feedback on why my article was not accepted and for giving me the guidelines that I need to follow in order to improve my chances of getting the article approved. I need to know how much time I have to re-edit the article and resubmit. Thanks. Sincerely, --Elreta Dodds. 2600:1702:2F70:C990:B1B1:D8DA:C8EE:6746 (talk) 22:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

You have up to six months to do so. Each edit you make resets that clock. Thus there is absolutely no effective deadline. Happy editing. You may also continue to edit after submission. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

(ec) There is no deadline as long as you are actively working on the draft. If it is inactive for six months, it will be deleted, but even then it can be restored via WP:REFUND. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

December 28

01:34, 28 December 2024 review of submission by 103.238.130.133

• 103.238.130.133 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Jan D. Corvin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

May I ask why the article was rejected based on notability and how can it be improved for successful resubmission ? 103.238.130.133 (talk) 01:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Rejection typically means that improvement is not possible at this time; no amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. It seems like you have no independent reliable sources that have significant coverage of this person, just descriptions of their activities. 331dot (talk) 09:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

02:50, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Fuzzpumpkin

• Fuzzpumpkin (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Office Hours Live (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I've been having trouble getting my article draft approved to be a "real" article. I'm open to all advice. Fuzzpumpkin (talk) 02:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Fuzzpumpkin You need to include the "Draft:" portion when linking to your draft, I fixed this for you above. Please see the messages left by the reviewers; the most recent one asks you to improve the tone of the article, and the reviewer left you specific advice on your draft. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

There is really no need to open a further thread on this matter, Fuzzpumpkin, Continuing the same thread is usual and helpful. But, since you have, Draft:Office Hours Live's referencing is much improved since my comment, for which I thank you.

When you are sure that you have handled the all reviewer's advice as well I suggest you resubmit for review. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 09:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

08:06, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Itsfaizanfaizi

• Itsfaizanfaizi (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Hafeez Center (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

my article has been rejected 2 times. I understand it was rejected due to concerns about advertising and notability. Could you provide specific feedback on the promotional aspects and what type of sources would demonstrate sufficient notability? I am eager to revise the article to meet Misplaced Pages's standards.

Itsfaizanfaizi (talk) 08:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Itsfaizanfaizi: slight correction, your draft was previously declined twice, and has now been rejected. Rejection means it won't be considered any further.

The relevant notability criterion is WP:NBUILD, which means that we require significant coverage in multiple sources that meet the WP:GNG standard. Your draft cites no such source. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

09:28, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Johnsonbl9ck

• Johnsonbl9ck (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Kamalı Zeybek (film, 1954) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Reviewed End Johnsonbl9ck (talk) 09:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Johnsonbl9ck it hasn't been reviewed yet, and don't add fake notices, thanks. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 09:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

But it is a waste of everybody's time to submit a draft with no content and no sources. A Misplaced Pages article should be a summary of what independent reliable sources say about a notable subject, and very little else. Please see WP:REFB. ColinFine (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

14:07, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Durgaprasadpetla

• Durgaprasadpetla (talk · contribs) 
  • Kambala Srinivas Rao (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am a beginner on Misplaced Pages and need some help. I was trying to edit the Talk:Kambala Srinivas Rao page, but I encountered a message saying it was deleted under G8 (talk page of a deleted page). I would like to know: Is it possible to restore the talk page, and under what circumstances? How can I address content or discussions related to the deleted page appropriately? Are there specific steps I should follow to create or request the recreation of the article itself? Thank you for your guidance and support! Durgaprasadpetla (talk) 14:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Durgaprasadpetla I fixed your post, the whole url is not needed. You may use the Article Wizard to create a draft. The deleted talk page only has a comment by you. The article was deleted under the A7 speedy deletion criterion(no asserted importance). You need to see your user talk page for important information requiring a response. 331dot (talk) 14:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

15:56, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Hays Deutschland

• Hays Deutschland (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Dominic V. Spinelli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I mixed up the references, which I copied from the German Wiki site I worked on. I cant clean the references. Easiest would be to delete all references an set them up new. How can I do that? Hays Deutschland (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Hays Deutschland I've removed all the references. If that's not what you meant, please undo my edit. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 12:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

17:07, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Dreimouse in an nutshell

• Dreimouse in an nutshell (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Saxdor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have worked hard to make this article, but i got no way of getting the reference to show on the page😞 Dreimouse in an nutshell (talk) 17:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Please can you disclose your connection with Saxdor? I have left 4 messages today on User talk:Dreimouse in an nutshell and you haven't responded to any of them. I have reviewed the 4 references that you have added to the bottom of the article but none of them even have working URLs. Spiderone 17:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

21:01, 28 December 2024 review of submission by Accounttree8

• Accounttree8 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Merrimack Valley Conference (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have no idea why my article has been denied. The reason it was denied was "Reason as the Prod reason." I have no idea what this means. Please advise. I would like this article to be published ASAP, as there is no good reason for its denial. Accounttree8 (talk) 21:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Accounttree8 You claim that you created and own the copyright to the conference logo- and you seem to be on a deadline(we're not). What is your relationship with the conference?

SafariScribe could you elaborate? 331dot (talk) 21:05, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

I apologize for the mistake, I'm not sure why it is listed that I created the logo. I did not create the logo, nor do I own the copyright. I am more than happy to fix that, but I'm not sure how to fix that. I am a former employee at the conference (I am since retired and now have some time to do things like this). I have been in communication with the conference and they would like to have a presence on this website, as most of our peer conferences do. I'm juts trying to help my former colleagues. I have been attempting to create this page for 9 months. It has been denied every time. I am not on a deadline, I am just frustrated with the countless denials (which is why I indicated ASAP). I am a Misplaced Pages novice and have tried to correct it many times, to no avail. I am just very frustrated with the process. 80-year old's aren't savvy with technology like this :) Accounttree8 (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you- you must immediately without delay go to Commons and either request deletion of the logo, or show where the logo has been released with a copyright compatible with Misplaced Pages's(allowing for reuse by anyone for any purpose, including commerical, with attribution). Logos are typically uploaded to this Misplaced Pages locally under "fair use" rules, which does carry some restrictions(they cannot be in drafts) but does allow limited use in articles.

Images are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. Images can wait until the draft is accepted.

As you are acting on behalf of the organization, you have a conflict of interest.

The trouble you are having is that you have too many references and the ones that you do have don't show that the conference is a notable organization as Misplaced Pages defines one. As for other conferences- their articles could be inappropriate as well and we just haven't gotten around to addressing them yet. I know this is a lot of information, but these are all important things. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to attempt on Misplaced Pages for people of any age- we usually recommend that experience be gained first by editing existing articles. 331dot (talk) 21:21, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@331dot You may not be aware that there is a logo complexity threshold at Commons. That threshold handles uncopyrightable items - text and simple geometric shapes. I believe that this logo qualifies as being below that threshold. However, advice from a Commons expert is really essential. I work there, but I am far short of being an expert.

Your advice to Accounttree8 seek immediate deletion has strong merit c:Commons:Help desk will provide them with all the assistance they require. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 21:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

I have requested deletion of the logo.

Respectfully, I disagree I have a conflict of interest. I have done this on my own volition and have not worked at the conference for 15 years. No one working for the conference had any input with this article.

Is it possible to give me an example of how to prove the conference is a notable organization as Misplaced Pages defines one? What would I need to do to show this? Appreciate any help you can provide. Accounttree8 (talk) 21:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Accounttree8 You said "I have been in communication with the conference and they would like to have a presence on this website"; does that not mean you're their representative?

To show notability, you need independent reliable sources that discuss the conference organization itself- not necessarily its member teams. 331dot (talk) 22:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Accounttree8 The file is held at c:File:Merrimack Valley Conference Logo.jpg, and you will need to edit the relevant section fo the page holding it. You have both claimed to be the author, and released it under a Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication. Neither of these is correct.

You say "I apologize for the mistake, I'm not sure why it is listed that I created the logo." but you were required to fill that information put when you uploaded the file. Thus it is listed that way because you listed it that way. You need to rectify that at once, please 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 21:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @Accounttree8. Unfortunately it appears that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding about Misplaced Pages. If you are trying to write an article in pursuit of "presence on this website", then you are involved in promotion, which is forbidden anywhere on Misplaced Pages. Any benefit (or detriment) which a subject may accrue by being the subject of a Misplaced Pages article is of no interest to Misplaced Pages. An article on your Conference should be a summary of what sources wholly unconnected with your Conference have chosen to publish in reliable places: what the Conference or its associates say or want to say is irrelevant. Please see an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

And this is why nobody donates to Wokipedia! :) Accounttree8 (talk) 22:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Accounttree8 Oh dear. That was rather rude. When given good advice it behoves you to say a pleasant word of thanks. Do, please, pull your horns in. If the MVC is notable then all you need to do is to show that it is. Declaring a WP:COI shows a commitment to transparency. It suggests that you have done everything to be an editor in good standing. Arguing against it suggests The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Thank you for nominating the logo for deletion on Commons. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 23:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, @Accounttree8. Let me give my personal view: if ever Misplaced Pages changed its policies so that it ceased to be one of the few places on the internet blessedly free from people promoting themselves and their activities, I would certainly stop contributing my money, and probably, albeit reluctanty, also stop contributing my time. ColinFine (talk) 20:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@Accounttree8: Please read and attend to the comments from the reviewers. The draft suffers from extreme CITEKILL, as explained in some detail by a couple of your fellow editors who declined the draft at different times. --bonadea contributions talk 22:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Nobody here is remotely bothered whether you donate or not, it is irrelevant. Theroadislong (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

December 29

07:03, 29 December 2024 review of submission by RasaPetrauskaite

• RasaPetrauskaite (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Measure J (Sonoma County, 2024) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Every time I try to make an edit and publish the edit, I get an error message that says that content provided was not properly deflated. This might have happened because I tried to paste a table from a website. But now I cannot undo it and the error message always shows up and prevents me from making any changes. I would like to edit this draft of an article. Could you please suggest how I can move forward with that and resolve the error message? RasaPetrauskaite (talk) 07:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@RasaPetrauskaite: I've just made a minor edit to this draft without any problems. Perhaps the issue is local to your browser – try restarting, and maybe clearing your cache if that doesn't help? If the issue persists, you are more likely to get competent advice at WP:VPT where folks who know technical stuff hang out. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

14:12, 29 December 2024 review of submission by The27thAlphabet

• The27thAlphabet (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Ashwani Gupta (business executive) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Can i please request help to evaluate this draft. I have added the notable sources and links. but do help in making this better for submission. The27thAlphabet (talk) 14:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@The27thAlphabet: we don't get involved in co-editing here at the help desk. You will get an evaluation when you resubmit the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

You've only linked to basic profiles and daily business news, that do nothing to confirm anything other than Gupta having those specific jobs. Notability requires a good deal more than this. You need to be looking for independent, reliable sources that are about Gupta. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 18:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

17:46, 29 December 2024 review of submission by Gidan Fasaha

• Gidan Fasaha (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Aliyu Saidu Jauro (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hy, Please Can You Assist Me Check The Errors On This New Page That I am Adding? It Got Rejected. Gidan Fasaha (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Hey Gidan, this was rejected as not a single source was provided to indicate that the subject was notable. While there are nine references, not a single one of them ever mentions Jauro as far as I can tell, let alone confirming any fact asserted in the biography. Just as an example, look at the first paragraph after the lede. Neither Jauro's parents names, the ethnic group they belong to, where they are from, or his father's occupation, have any sourcing whatsoever. The only source provided goes simply to provide more information about the Yandang not the subject of the article. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 18:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @Gidan Fasaha. A Misplaced Pages article is a summary of what people wholly unconnected with the subject have published about the subject, and very little else. If you do not have any reliable independent sources, there is literally nothing which you can put into an article. Please see your first article. ColinFine (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

18:09, 29 December 2024 review of submission by Manikingr

• Manikingr (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Alef (company) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Greetings and respect This article, which is about an Iranian artificial intelligence startup called Alef, has been completely edited and is written in an unbiased language without any advertisements for anyone's benefit.The sources of this article are written from official and completely independent media in Iran. But unfortunately, some Misplaced Pages editors have monopolized the creation of articles and do not allow the creation of new articles and the improvement of Misplaced Pages. Manikingr (talk) 18:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

You have not shown that this company meets the special Misplaced Pages definition of a notable company.

This process is usually voluntary. If you wish to disregard what you are being told by more experienced people, you can move the draft into the encyclopedia yourself, but you risk it being nominated for deletion. 331dot (talk) 18:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

18:21, 29 December 2024 review of submission by Jasminmusicz

• Jasminmusicz (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Jasmin (Zara) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

im a biggner so kindly assist me what is my msitake and how to fix it Jasminmusicz (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please see the autobiography policy. Your draft has no sources that show you are a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 18:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Jasminmusicz, your highly promotional draft biography of a 13 year old child is completely unreferenced and in violation of multiple Policies and guidelines. Most significantly, it violates Verifiability and the Neutral point of view. Cullen328 (talk) 18:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@Jasminmusicz: I would seriously reconsider whether the price of a Misplaced Pages article (i.e. permanent loss of your privacy) is worth it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 20:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

20:39, 29 December 2024 review of submission by JIMMY OFUOYAn14

• JIMMY OFUOYAn14 (talk · contribs) 
  • User:JIMMY OFUOYAn14/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

please what can i do to make my submission to be accepted JIMMY OFUOYAn14 (talk) 20:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

There is nothing you can do. Please stop creating new accounts to publish your AI generated autobiography. --bonadea contributions talk 20:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

FTR, previously blocked accounts include JIMMY OFUOYAN10 (talk · contribs) and Jimmy ofuo (talk · contribs). --bonadea contributions talk 21:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

21:58, 29 December 2024 review of submission by Sam241224

• Sam241224 (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Sam241224/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi everyone, I recently submitted a wiki page for review and it got rejected for overly cheese language or unreliable sources, something like that. Things gone too wrong and the page was declined. I need help with improving it if possible. Please guide me as I am new here and if its a dead end, that's also ok. just let me know. thanks. Sam241224 (talk) 21:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

As the reviewer noted, at one point schools were inherently notable, but that is no longer the case. Schools must meet WP:ORG just as any other organization. You should not be describing the school and its offerings, you should be summarizing what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the school. If you have no such sources, then the school does not merit an article. 331dot (talk) 22:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

thank you @331dot for your swift and detailed reply,

Now I got it, Its not what we want to say, but what reliable and Independent sources said that we need to rewrite / convey. Correct me if I am wrong. Can you please check the references and tell me if they qualify?

thanks for helping me understand whole process Sam241224 (talk) 22:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

The activities of the school do nof confer notability; there needs to be sources with significant coverage of the school and what makes it important/significant/influential as a school. 331dot (talk) 22:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Content like "Scientia emphasizes a balanced approach to learning, integrating technology and modern teaching methods to prepare students for the challenges of a dynamic world. Known for its commitment to community engagement, the school actively participates in initiatives promoting environmental sustainability and social welfare, fostering holistic development in its students." is just blatant advertising and would never be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 22:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

ok, understood. thank you for checking the contents and pointing out. @Theroadislong Sam241224 (talk) 22:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok, got it. So, how can I start a new page about something else. Lets leave this page here. I want to contribute but I don't think the language I use is right, I need to improve on that before I start working on anything else.

thanks @331dot Sam241224 (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

You can create additional sandboxes(User:Sam241224/sandbox 2) or you can use the Article Wizard. Please know that creating new articles is not the best or only way you can contribute. We have millions of articles that need help, and editing those will help you gain experience before you attempt the difficult task of creating a new article. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I will try to contribute to some other articles, maybe something with structure or easy tweaks before going after a big task as you suggested. I am not sure about the language I need to use in wiki content, It will take time for me to get things, but I have started to get the grip on things like my profile, sandbox and talk page, user page and such things. But, its a long journey, from front Misplaced Pages looks so simple, but from inside so many things are going on. Amazing.

thanks for putting in your valuable time :) Sam241224 (talk) 22:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@Sam241224 my genuine advice to new editors is to start out improving existing articles, because writing a new article from scratch is really hard! Like trying to perform in an orchestra when you've only just picked up an instrument. Your Misplaced Pages Homepage will have some suggested edits you can make at various levels of difficulty. qcne (talk) 22:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Qcne, thanks for your suggestion. I will try to find something beginner friendly on my homepage. Any suggestion on matching my tone with Misplaced Pages standards? Sam241224 (talk) 23:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Practice, really. You should only be paraphrasing or summarising what reliable sources say, and make sure when you do you write in a dry style. This could also be useful: Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Words to watch qcne (talk) 23:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

ok, but what is 'dry style'?

thanks for the link :) Sam241224 (talk) 15:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Difficult to really give examples, its something that you pick up once you've done enough editing. The tone should always remain formal, impersonal, and dispassionate. Pretend you're writing an autopsy. Misplaced Pages only ever describes, never leads the reader or engages them. qcne (talk) 16:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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01:54, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Jogershok

• Jogershok (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Kathleen Ann Shea (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why does this not meet the goals and expectations of this WikiProject?

She is listed in the Charlie Project as well: https://charleyproject.org/case/kathleen-ann-shea Jogershok (talk) 02:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Jogershok: there is insufficient evidence that the subject is notable. Also, the Charley Project is a primary source, and as such contributes nothing towards notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

02:24, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Sivans1734

• Sivans1734 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Felicia Grossman (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My draft was declined for not citing reliable sources but the only spot in which I didn't cite sources was the Early and personal life section which I have all the information from the subject herself and it is not anywhere on the internet. Sivans1734 (talk) 02:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Sivans1734 but not one of those sources are reliable or independent meaning they are not of any value on showing us how they are notable enough to meet the standard of inclusion in a global encyclopedia. McMatter /_(contrib) 04:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @Sivans1734. In addition to what McMatter said, please note that all information in a Misplaced Pages article must be verifiable from a pubished source. Unpublished information, no matter who it is from, may never be included in an article. A further point is that Misplaced Pages has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Misplaced Pages is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

03:32, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Toothpickdog

• Toothpickdog (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Havelock Mussel And Seafood Festival (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, This festival is happening in March, and about now is the time when people are likely to be googling and buying tickets. I'm hoping some will find their way to this article and be able to expand it - particularly to add missing headline acts from past years. Almost two months ago my draft submission was declined as I had only a few poorly sourced references. I've added a lot since then, but they're not great quality - there just aren't many references available on the internet that I can find. Thanks for your help in getting this article online! Don. Toothpickdog (talk) 03:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Toothpickdog: do you have a question about your draft, or the review process?

Please note that sources don't have to be online; offline sources are perfectly acceptable, as long as they otherwise meet the requirements in terms of reliability etc. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

05:35, 30 December 2024 review of submission by EclipseExpress

• EclipseExpress (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Katy Perry Collections (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Can you add more to this page? EclipseExpress (talk) 05:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@EclipseExpress: if you're asking someone here at the help desk (and/or at the Teahouse) to co-edit the draft with you, then the answer is no, that's not something we get involved in. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

05:42, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Jadan? Moreno

• Jadan? Moreno (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Jadan? Moreno/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'm not sure why I can't publish this page. Jadan? Moreno (talk) 05:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Jadan? Moreno: because it has been rejected (twice), for the reasons given in the notices and comments. TL;DNR = we don't publish promotional autobiographies with no evidence of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

08:38, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Cian Nollaig

• Cian Nollaig (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:I Love Limerick (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I hope all is well. I am finding the feedback unclear for the article's sources being declined. When I compare the sources used to similar pages based in the region; my article uses third-person citations whereas the other pages cite articles from either their own websites or websites their companies own. Cian Nollaig (talk) 08:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Cian Nollaig Please see other stuff exists. Each article or draft is judged on its own merits. There are numerous ways inappropriate content can get past us, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content, otherwise nothing could ever be removed from Misplaced Pages. It is possible for inappropriate content to exist, even for years, we can only address what we know about. If you want to help us, you can identify these other articles you have seen so action can be taken. We need the help. If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those that are classified as good articles, which have been checked by the community. 331dot (talk) 10:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

The draft still has some unsourced sections. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

09:14, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Dcbeatz

• Dcbeatz (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:HiiKER (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is very interesting. Since this rejection, I spoke to the company. They said they have been bombarded with requests for them to pay more than 1000 dollars to get a wikipedia article published. This is 100% part of a corrupt system in wikipedia! Dcbeatz (talk) 09:14, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Dcbeatz, that is an unfortunate ongoing scam by scammers who are not affiliated with Misplaced Pages. Please carefully read (and show the company) Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation/Scam warning. qcne (talk) 09:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, this is a scam that Misplaced Pages has nothing to do with. Scammers monitor this and other pages to then contact the subjects of drafts. 331dot (talk) 10:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Dcbeatz: it's also interesting that you're on speaking terms with the company behind this app. This very much suggests a conflict of interest, which needs to be disclosed; I will post instructions on your talk page.

If you speak with them again, warn them against paying any money to anyone. Not only is this almost certain to be a scam, as already pointed out, the company is also unlikely to get anything for their money. Even if these folks are bona fide editors who know what they're doing, there is nothing anyone can do to guarantee that an article will be published, or more to the point, that it will remain so. And there's every chance they are very far from bona fide. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

13:37, 30 December 2024 review of submission by 43.225.193.153

• 43.225.193.153 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Md Tauseef Alam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

How to add more references when it is not available in Web, although I can find is just few social media profiles along research paper publications 43.225.193.153 (talk) 13:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Remember to log in when posting. Sources do not need to be online, see Referencing for Beginners to learn how to write references. Social media profiles do not establish that the person is notable; an article should primarily summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about the person. 331dot (talk) 13:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

17:23, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Microesoft1212

• Microesoft1212 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Chellikere (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, while writing the article for this locality, I've come to the conclusion that it's hard to find sources that directly mention the locality with respect to another thing. For example, articles rarely mention the nearest metro station, it is something you'd find on google maps. Therefore, citing for statements like these has become a challenge. Therefore, in order to still have a citation, I've cited articles that vaguely have the information that I'm looking for. In order to get the article published, would it be prefferable if I just deleted the points for which getting a citation is very hard, thereby reducing the size of the article or should I continue with my vague citations. Thank you Microesoft1212 (talk) 17:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

@Microesoft1212: everything in the draft must come directly from reliable published sources. If you are writing what you know about the subject, and then struggling to find sources to support what you've written, you're going about it WP:BACKWARD. Also, you're probably engaging in either original research or synthesis, which is not allowed. Please stick to only that information which can be clearly backed up by sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

19:25, 30 December 2024 review of submission by UtpalSarmaAssam

• UtpalSarmaAssam (talk · contribs) 
  • User:UtpalSarmaAssam/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Reason for not publishing UtpalSarmaAssam (talk) 19:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

No indication of notability. qcne (talk) 19:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

UtpalSarmaAssam, vast swathes of your draft are unreferenced, in violation of policies Verifiability and Biographies of living people. Cullen328 (talk) 19:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

20:12, 30 December 2024 review of submission by Drtasadukitoo

• Drtasadukitoo (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Drtasadukitoo/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I want to create new article Drtasadukitoo (talk) 20:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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