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Hi, I'm Suleyman. I saw that you said you were a physics student on a talk page so I thought I'd drop you a question. I want to start studying physics, particle physics to be particular. I'm not interested in researching or anything (I'm a 3rd year med student) it's just the talk about particles and forces and dimensions. It kind of fascinates me. So here's my question: Where should I start from, which articles are elementary and must be read? What are the books on this subjects written for the layman like me? Thanks in advance for your answers, hope hearing from you soon. *addition* I'm sorry for how lame these question may have sounded.*
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:No, it's a good question. Let me think a bit and ask around and get back to you. I read such books many years ago now, so I'll have to track them down again. -- ] 04:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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:I don't get were you got that idea from, the project is about improving articles, not deletinga anything. --] 11:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings! ==

Greetings!

I came across your contributions on our mutual friend, ]'s talk page.

I have been doing a lot of work on the ]s, and related issues. They are topics that trigger people's emotions, and I find that I am getting people accusing me of bias, from both American patriots, and critics of America. Our mutual friend Abrar47 accused me of having typical American arrogance -- funny because of the criticisms I get from actual Americans, and because I am not an actual American.

Anyhow, there are times when I would like to ask for advice, sometimes advice as simple as simple spelling advice, from people who are proficient in Arabic, or Turkic languages, or Farsi or related languages. Can I add you to my list of language experts?

You can reply here. I'll put your talk page is on my watchlist.

Cheers! -- ] 19:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Geo Swan!

Of course you can add me. I'm always delighted to help other Wikipedians. My knowledge of Turkish is pretty good as I'm interested in literature. I'm also also proficient in some Mid-east related subjects, especially history. Feel free to ask me questions, but bear in mind that I (until now) did not participate in ANY of the discussions on Misplaced Pages about any of the subjects pertaining to the so-called clash of civilizations. I do not intend to do so. But you can refer to my knowledge of Turkish anytime you want, on any subject you want. You can also email me too. I'll respond to my mails in around 24 hours and I check my Misplaced Pages talk page more often.

Let's collaborate! --] 19:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks. Let me start with what I hope will be a simple question.

:When we started listing the Guantanamo captives (]) we (well, mainly myself) followed the example of the list of the names of 300 or so captives the Washington Post had guessed at. They tried to shoehorn their names into a European style '''"Lastname", "Firstname"'''' format. I know think this was a mistake. The US Department of Defense had also started with this policy, only more so, and they have made an awful mess out of things.

:The last official list of Guantanamo captives has about two dozen captives who are listed as FNU or LNU. This stands for "'''F'''irst '''N'''ame '''U'''nknown" or "'''L'''ast '''N'''ame '''U'''nknown". Apparently there bureaucracy is unable or unwilling to recognize that it is common for Afghans to have just a single name. Further, shoehorning those who have multilpe names into the European "lastname, firstname" format doesn't help expose family relationships, Captive ] is the father of ], but you couldn't determine that by shoehorning their names.

:In some new categories I created recently I suggested that we not repeat earlier mistakes, and not try to change the order of representation of the biographical articles from the default order of sorting starting with the first character. I don't know if you use categories. Forgive me if I am explaining something you already know. If you put a line like: '''<nowiki>]</nowiki>''' in an article, then that article shows up in the category. And a reader can use the category to find related articles. Editors can over-ride the default order of representation. They can put: '''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''. Editors did that with most, but not all, of the articles in that particular category. IMO it has proven a maintenance headache -- and a huge waste of time.

:So, in Turkey itself, do some families follow the European "lastname, firstname" convention, where a man inherits the same lastname as his father, paternal grandfather, paternal great-grandfather? Does the Turkish government mandate a standard on official documents? What about Kurdish people living in Turkey? Do you know if different ethnic groups practice the same standard?

:What do you know about the naming practices of Turkic speaking people from outside of Turkey? The 22 Uyghurs refugees from the Western-most province of China, who were rounded up when the USA paid a bounty for every foreigner in Afghanistan, were trying to make their way to Turkey, because their native language is close to Turkish.

:Cheers! -- ] 16:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

::In Turkey children inherit their father's lastname. It has been the regulation since the start of the Republic of Turkey. '''No one is exempt from this rule''', so Kurdish people in Turkey also inherit their father's lastname. Though in rural parts last names are seldom used, especially in the eastern Turkey many children don't have ID papers until they start primary school. If they don't go to school there's no need for an ID card so no need for a documented last name. It's not very common a situation though.

::I think Turkic people of former Soviet republics inherit their father's first name as a last name for themselves. I may have heard that clan names are being used again in some places of central asia. In some places as part of the modernization process European style of lat names are used. Uzbekistan may be exempt from this. I have no knowledge about the Uyghurs of Eastern Turkistan in China, sorry.
--] 17:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Thanks ] 20:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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Greetings!

I agree that courtesy is unequally represented on the wikipedia. With that thought in mind, you might take a look at

I have no objection to your reverting my reversion -- except, could you put a brief explanation on the talk page? Thanks.

Cheers! -- ] 08:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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== Unicrown forks ==

Hi Suleyman, good to hear from you. Regarding unicrown forks, I haven't heard about any problems with them. Where did you hear bad things about them? I believe there were some reliability problems with early unicrown forks back in the 80s before the welding processes were perfected.

But in terms of handling, a unicrown fork should be no different from a fork with a lugged crown. As you probably know, the most important thing about a fork in terms of handling is its ] (essentially, the distance between the tire contact point and the steering axis). Any fork made for touring use should have similar trail.

If the fork has rack braze-ons and fits wide tires, that sounds great. Mine is similar and it has been working very well for me over almost 2 years of commuting use.

Enjoy the new frame! I hope Turkey is a good place for cycling... my Turkish coworker tells me that the drivers in Istanbul are crazy and mean, so stay safe out there! ] 18:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm Suleyman. I saw that you said you were a physics student on a talk page so I thought I'd drop you a question. I want to start studying physics, particle physics to be particular. I'm not interested in researching or anything (I'm a 3rd year med student) it's just the talk about particles and forces and dimensions. It kind of fascinates me. So here's my question: Where should I start from, which articles are elementary and must be read? What are the books on this subjects written for the layman like me? Thanks in advance for your answers, hope hearing from you soon. *addition* I'm sorry for how lame these question may have sounded.*

No, it's a good question. Let me think a bit and ask around and get back to you. I read such books many years ago now, so I'll have to track them down again. -- SCZenz 04:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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Hi. Deleted? What do you mean "deleted"? --Striver 11:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't get were you got that idea from, the project is about improving articles, not deletinga anything. --Striver 11:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Greetings!

Greetings!

I came across your contributions on our mutual friend, User:Abrar47's talk page.

I have been doing a lot of work on the Guantanamo captives, and related issues. They are topics that trigger people's emotions, and I find that I am getting people accusing me of bias, from both American patriots, and critics of America. Our mutual friend Abrar47 accused me of having typical American arrogance -- funny because of the criticisms I get from actual Americans, and because I am not an actual American.

Anyhow, there are times when I would like to ask for advice, sometimes advice as simple as simple spelling advice, from people who are proficient in Arabic, or Turkic languages, or Farsi or related languages. Can I add you to my list of language experts?

You can reply here. I'll put your talk page is on my watchlist.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 19:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Geo Swan!

Of course you can add me. I'm always delighted to help other Wikipedians. My knowledge of Turkish is pretty good as I'm interested in literature. I'm also also proficient in some Mid-east related subjects, especially history. Feel free to ask me questions, but bear in mind that I (until now) did not participate in ANY of the discussions on Misplaced Pages about any of the subjects pertaining to the so-called clash of civilizations. I do not intend to do so. But you can refer to my knowledge of Turkish anytime you want, on any subject you want. You can also email me too. I'll respond to my mails in around 24 hours and I check my Misplaced Pages talk page more often.

Let's collaborate! --Suleyman Habeeb 19:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Let me start with what I hope will be a simple question.
When we started listing the Guantanamo captives (List of Guantanamo Bay detainees) we (well, mainly myself) followed the example of the list of the names of 300 or so captives the Washington Post had guessed at. They tried to shoehorn their names into a European style "Lastname", "Firstname"' format. I know think this was a mistake. The US Department of Defense had also started with this policy, only more so, and they have made an awful mess out of things.
The last official list of Guantanamo captives has about two dozen captives who are listed as FNU or LNU. This stands for "First Name Unknown" or "Last Name Unknown". Apparently there bureaucracy is unable or unwilling to recognize that it is common for Afghans to have just a single name. Further, shoehorning those who have multilpe names into the European "lastname, firstname" format doesn't help expose family relationships, Captive Nasrat Khan is the father of Hiztullah Nasrat Yar, but you couldn't determine that by shoehorning their names.
In some new categories I created recently I suggested that we not repeat earlier mistakes, and not try to change the order of representation of the biographical articles from the default order of sorting starting with the first character. I don't know if you use categories. Forgive me if I am explaining something you already know. If you put a line like: ] in an article, then that article shows up in the category. And a reader can use the category to find related articles. Editors can over-ride the default order of representation. They can put: ]. Editors did that with most, but not all, of the articles in that particular category. IMO it has proven a maintenance headache -- and a huge waste of time.
So, in Turkey itself, do some families follow the European "lastname, firstname" convention, where a man inherits the same lastname as his father, paternal grandfather, paternal great-grandfather? Does the Turkish government mandate a standard on official documents? What about Kurdish people living in Turkey? Do you know if different ethnic groups practice the same standard?
What do you know about the naming practices of Turkic speaking people from outside of Turkey? The 22 Uyghurs refugees from the Western-most province of China, who were rounded up when the USA paid a bounty for every foreigner in Afghanistan, were trying to make their way to Turkey, because their native language is close to Turkish.
Cheers! -- Geo Swan 16:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
In Turkey children inherit their father's lastname. It has been the regulation since the start of the Republic of Turkey. No one is exempt from this rule, so Kurdish people in Turkey also inherit their father's lastname. Though in rural parts last names are seldom used, especially in the eastern Turkey many children don't have ID papers until they start primary school. If they don't go to school there's no need for an ID card so no need for a documented last name. It's not very common a situation though.
I think Turkic people of former Soviet republics inherit their father's first name as a last name for themselves. I may have heard that clan names are being used again in some places of central asia. In some places as part of the modernization process European style of lat names are used. Uzbekistan may be exempt from this. I have no knowledge about the Uyghurs of Eastern Turkistan in China, sorry.

--Suleyman Habeeb 17:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Geo Swan 20:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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unexplained excisions

Greetings!

I agree that courtesy is unequally represented on the wikipedia. With that thought in mind, you might take a look at the history of my interaction with Abrar47

I have no objection to your reverting my reversion -- except, could you put a brief explanation on the talk page? Thanks.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 08:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

You are send message to see my talk page.(Jap:あなたの送ったメッセージは私の会話ページをみてください）--Naohiro19(Talk Page/Contributions) 09:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC) addted:09:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Unicrown forks

Hi Suleyman, good to hear from you. Regarding unicrown forks, I haven't heard about any problems with them. Where did you hear bad things about them? I believe there were some reliability problems with early unicrown forks back in the 80s before the welding processes were perfected.

But in terms of handling, a unicrown fork should be no different from a fork with a lugged crown. As you probably know, the most important thing about a fork in terms of handling is its trail (essentially, the distance between the tire contact point and the steering axis). Any fork made for touring use should have similar trail.

If the fork has rack braze-ons and fits wide tires, that sounds great. Mine is similar and it has been working very well for me over almost 2 years of commuting use.

Enjoy the new frame! I hope Turkey is a good place for cycling... my Turkish coworker tells me that the drivers in Istanbul are crazy and mean, so stay safe out there! Moxfyre 18:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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