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| Thank you today for ], introduced as "the first FAC about a ] (or "raptor") dinosaur in more than a decade, and this particular genus has recently become (in)famous as antagonist in a recent ''Jurassic World'' movie. Because their portrayal in that film is atrociously inaccurate, improving this article will hopefully set the record straight."! -- ] (]) 16:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == Humpback again == | |||
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| I added some more text. What do you think of the length now? ] (]) 23:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Quagga again == | |||
| :I'm not sure I remember raising concerns before, but it does seem better than the old FA version at a glance. ] (]) 02:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::I asked you to look at it before and you thought was a bit short. Would you say it is "Satisfactory" now? ] (]) 22:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Oh yes, that was a few months ago. It certainly looks better, also with additional images it seems, but I'd have to give it a detailed read through to judge it, which I unfortunately don't have time for at the moment. ] (]) 02:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == TFA again == | |||
| How is the taxonomy coming? Don't forget that the one paper explains how the quagga lost its stripes. Also should we keep the culture section with its few cites? ] (]) 22:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :My plan is to summarise the stripe paper, and if present, taxonomy issues in that South Africa mammal book. As for the culture section, I think it could be made into a "relationship with humans" section, and all the useless pop culture cameos can be removed. ] (]) 14:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::We're gonna need some cites for the cultural references. ] (]) 19:22, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::For the books, I assume they would suffice as sources themselves. The Jurassic Park novel references to the quagga are somewhat notable as far as I remember, since they relate to the recreation of extinct animals, with the quagga being used as an example of such. I'll see if I can find it in my old copies. I've removed the games and stuff like that. The film appearance seems somewhat notable, I guess there must be a source mentioning it somewhere. ] (]) 19:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *And by the way, there is some info on appearance and sympatry with other zebras in the 2005 genetics paper that could be used outside the evolution section. ] (]) 19:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've already put that in the "Biology and ecology" section. ] (]) 20:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for your help. I'm now going to nominate it for GA. ] (]) 20:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Alright, I think a little more could be added form the sources we have, but I guess it is long enough for GA. ] (]) 20:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Well, feel free to add some. ] (]) 21:27, 19 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I'm currently fleshing out with stuff I can find, but Skinner 2005 mentions "Skinner & Smithers 1990" as a place to find more information about the quagqa. Walkers animals mentions "Smithers 1983". Do you know what that publication is? ] (]) 15:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *Another thing, I think it would be nice to note how many stuffed specimens/skins/skeletons still exist today, if this information can be found. I know it is mentioned in some old papers, but not which. ] (]) 17:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *I think it is ready for GA now, but I have requested some papers that may help us expand the article further. ] (]) 19:32, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Okay, thanks. The article looks even better. I'm afraid I can't locate those papers. ] (]) 19:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Some papers have been provided there, you may want to download them. ] (]) 21:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Done. ] (]) 21:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::And sorry for being so late in the game, by the way, but never did a collaboration before, and was a bit unsure how to start (and I'm also a bit busy in real life at the moment). But it seems to be going well now, and I think we have plenty of time to work before anyone reviews the article. At this rate, I think we could get it to FA, what do you think? ] (]) 22:05, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Sounds intriguing. Do you think we'll have to add back in the info on culture to be comprehensive for FA? ] (]) 23:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Unless we find something really notable, a few random and scattered mentions in books doesn't really make a difference for FA. But that doesn't mean we should leave out if we find something profound, what we had just wasn't up to snuff. ] (]) 23:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *This book seems to be a specialised source: ] mentions it here, and discusses the quagga. ] (]) 23:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I think we should paraphrase some of the information given by Colonal Harris instead of quoting a whole passage. ] (]) 22:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::I didn't add the quote myself, and was about to remove it, but after reading it, and upon learning it is one of the only definite descriptions from life, I kind of like it. The thing is, by paraphrasing it, we have to interpret it, and that is good enough for second hand accounts (like the books we've cited), but this is a first hand account, and almost all the animal is known from in life. Therefore, meddling with it can tamper with the meaning. And besides, I've brought many articles to FA status that contained extensive contemporary descriptions of recently extinct animals (often they are only known from very few accounts), so shouldn't be a problem for FAC, if that's what you had in mind. ] (]) 22:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Okay then. ] (]) 23:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Now that it's a GA, the next step would be fixing the stuff mentioned in the review. Then it shouldn't be too far from FA. I would personally love a section about the existing museum specimens, but I have no comprehensive source about it. Seems to be in that 1996 book. ] (]) 01:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I won't be able to order that book. Money's tight on my part. ] (]) 02:10, 23 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Shouldn't be necessary for FA anyway. Do you think there is enough info to make a range map? Since we now know the exact date the last specimen died, August 12, we could perhaps submit it as today's featured article for that date if we get it to FA before? ] (]) 01:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I'm not sure. I have no experience in making maps. ] (]) 03:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::The articles states that "...it is unclear why the quagga lost the stripes on its hind parts" but also "Its distinct coat pattern likely evolved rapidly due to geographical isolation and/or adaptation to a drier environment". The latter is cited to a more recent source. ] (]) 03:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Well, even the latter leaves it unclear, "likely" doesn't indicate much certainty. And there doesn't seem to be any consensus of why zebras even have stripes, not to mention the lack of them. ] (]) 03:44, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::So is it almost ready. ] (]) 20:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Yeah, I think we should send it to the copyeditors first, though... ] (]) 20:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::Done. ] (]) 21:00, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Nice! Until then, each of us could read trough it, and fix overlooked errors in the process. I always find mistakes on re-read. ] (]) 21:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::"Historically, quagga taxonomy was further complicated by he fact that the extinct southernmost population of Burchell's zebra was thought to be a distinct subspecies until recently, Equus quagga burchellii (then regarded a full species, E. burchellii)." I think the reviewers are going to object to the use of "recently". ] (]) 21:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::Yeah, I'm not sure, but I think the 2004 paper we cite was the first to propose this? ] (]) 21:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::This 1978 paper may be where it was first proposed: http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/40680486/#page/5/mode/1up ] (]) 21:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::::Reading that, it seems to have been in a 1974 paper by the same author, which is also a list of specimens. Trying to find it... ] (]) 21:57, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::::::::Andnope... The 70s papers do claim Burchell's zebra never went extinct, but not that the surviving population was the same as any other subspecies, so it may have been the 2004 paper after all. Pretty complicated. ] (]) 05:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::::::::How long do you want to wait for the copyedit? ] (]) 01:09, 30 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::::::::::Takes longer than I had expected. If you feel it is ready for FAC already, I'm fine wit that. ] (]) 01:15, 30 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::::::::::Lets wait another week. ] (]) 22:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::::::::::::I'll be on Iceland until July 17, so may not be able to respond on a FAC until then. ] (]) 16:57, 3 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::::::::::::Okay. ] (]) 17:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I have Internet access here anyway, so no problem. ] (]) 03:02, 5 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :: Good for you! - ] comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --] (]) 16:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Hey, thanks for your second opinion at the ]. I've now ]. If you have time, can you take a look at the article and leave some comments? --] (]) 00:27, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll take a look. ] (]) 20:49, 6 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Flightless Dodo article == | |||
| You removed my request for a citation on the statement that "It is presumed that the Dodo became flightless because of the ready availability of abundant food sources and a relative absence of predators on Mauritius." You said that "It is in the article". I couldn't find the part of the article that said who presumed this nor indeed anything supporting the reason for it becoming flightless. Perhaps you can point me to the appropriate part of the article. ] (]) 05:34, 7 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll make it clearer in the article. ] (]) 19:29, 7 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the citation. I'll continue the discussion on the article's talk page to make it easier for others to join in if they want to. ] (]) 06:04, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi FunkMonk, you added a '']'' image from in Poznan Plaza. Is that in Poland? See ]. ] (]) 04:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Yeah, you can usually find more information about an image if you click on it. ] (]) 04:05, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| I have done all but one of which you have asked (the other will be done shortly), , could you check it out once you are free ;) Thanks <span style="border:2px solid #000;background:#fff">]]</span> 17:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Yep, I might get time in a couple of days. ] (]) 04:21, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| I know you know the mammoth articles far better than I, so I thought I'd best just point you at this , then I realised there are a big bunch of all related to the same thread. Presumably the blood sample stuff is new (but maybe that's just the hype?) and ought to find a place somewhere in the article. ] (]) 04:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi, the specimen already is mentioned last under the frozen specimens section. The blood thing is a bit overhyped, and needs actual scientific study before anything can be concluded. ] (]) 05:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ok cool, I figured you would know or at least easily find, whether the specimen was the same as one in the article, where I would have spent a good hour before I could be 'fairly sure'. I'll forget this for now then. Cheers ] (]) 09:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Wazzup, man! How's everything here? ] (] | ]) 09:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thanks, and same to you! I bought most of my gifts myself haha. Nice you're still updating the old articles, what are you working on next? ] (]) 12:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I got a bit curious with the new papers. Speaking about them, what do you think about the Pêgas paper regarding Thalassodromidae? It's actually interesting, it doesn't really do anything phylogenetically, but it does kinda solve the naming inconsistency (Thalassodromidae/Thalassodrominae). I've put up a discussion at about it. Regarding projects, I'm not really into it as much as before, but things could always change though. ] (] | ]) 20:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Previously you posted your opinion on my sandbox page as following: | |||
| :::I guess it's a matter of waiting to see if it gains consensus? By the way, isn't it possible to do something with the cladograms in '']'' so the white space in their right can be filled by an image instead of the strange clash that is currently there? Usually it can be done by making the cladogram text smaller, or the cladograms narrower or something. ] (]) 20:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::<nowiki>Will cool the many hot-heads down, and force them to use the talk-page, which is a good thing. ~~~~</nowiki> | |||
| ::::By reducing the width. It didn't work when you did it before because the "font-size" and "line-height" functions had equal signs instead of colons, which was my mistake when creating the cladogram. Adding an image beside them might not actually be a bad idea now that I think about it. I always thought having bigger cladogram text would be better for the reader, so I tend to not leave space at the right. ] (] | ]) 21:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Please repost it at the ].] (]) 17:22, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::There also seems to be a lot of unused space between the cladograms, can that be reduced? Yeah, I always use that right white space for a relevant image that wouldn't fit anywhere else haha. Could be convenient here. ] (]) 21:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I'm not really sure, I guess it can be reduced by adjusting the overall width as well? ] (] | ]) 22:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Which parameter is that? ] (]) 00:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::I meant the "width" parameter, the same one as before. Maybe around 80% or 75% would do the trick to also include the image on the right. ] (] | ]) 08:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Thank you today for Atrociraptor, introduced as "the first FAC about a dromaeosaurid (or "raptor") dinosaur in more than a decade, and this particular genus has recently become (in)famous as antagonist in a recent Jurassic World movie. Because their portrayal in that film is atrociously inaccurate, improving this article will hopefully set the record straight."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 22:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Humpback again
I added some more text. What do you think of the length now? LittleJerry (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I remember raising concerns before, but it does seem better than the old FA version at a glance. FunkMonk (talk) 02:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I asked you to look at it before and you thought was a bit short. Would you say it is "Satisfactory" now? LittleJerry (talk) 22:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oh yes, that was a few months ago. It certainly looks better, also with additional images it seems, but I'd have to give it a detailed read through to judge it, which I unfortunately don't have time for at the moment. FunkMonk (talk) 02:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I asked you to look at it before and you thought was a bit short. Would you say it is "Satisfactory" now? LittleJerry (talk) 22:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you today for Mimodactylus, introduced (in 2023): "This is the first FAC about a fossil species from Lebanon, where significant palaeontological discoveries are increasingly being made. As it's a relatively recently named animal, most of what has been published about it is covered here, and the images are mainly from the scientific paper that described it."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:40, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Welcome again, seems to happen frequently these days! FunkMonk (talk) 11:19, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Good for you! - Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas!
Ho ho ho! The greeting's a bit late but... I hope Santa brought you gifts? Haha.
Wazzup, man! How's everything here? JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 09:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, and same to you! I bought most of my gifts myself haha. Nice you're still updating the old articles, what are you working on next? FunkMonk (talk) 12:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I got a bit curious with the new papers. Speaking about them, what do you think about the Pêgas paper regarding Thalassodromidae? It's actually interesting, it doesn't really do anything phylogenetically, but it does kinda solve the naming inconsistency (Thalassodromidae/Thalassodrominae). I've put up a discussion at Talk:Thalassodrominae about it. Regarding projects, I'm not really into it as much as before, but things could always change though. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 20:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I guess it's a matter of waiting to see if it gains consensus? By the way, isn't it possible to do something with the cladograms in Thalassodromeus so the white space in their right can be filled by an image instead of the strange clash that is currently there? Usually it can be done by making the cladogram text smaller, or the cladograms narrower or something. FunkMonk (talk) 20:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- By reducing the width. It didn't work when you did it before because the "font-size" and "line-height" functions had equal signs instead of colons, which was my mistake when creating the cladogram. Adding an image beside them might not actually be a bad idea now that I think about it. I always thought having bigger cladogram text would be better for the reader, so I tend to not leave space at the right. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 21:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- There also seems to be a lot of unused space between the cladograms, can that be reduced? Yeah, I always use that right white space for a relevant image that wouldn't fit anywhere else haha. Could be convenient here. FunkMonk (talk) 21:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure, I guess it can be reduced by adjusting the overall width as well? JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 22:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which parameter is that? FunkMonk (talk) 00:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I meant the "width" parameter, the same one as before. Maybe around 80% or 75% would do the trick to also include the image on the right. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 08:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which parameter is that? FunkMonk (talk) 00:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure, I guess it can be reduced by adjusting the overall width as well? JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 22:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- There also seems to be a lot of unused space between the cladograms, can that be reduced? Yeah, I always use that right white space for a relevant image that wouldn't fit anywhere else haha. Could be convenient here. FunkMonk (talk) 21:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- By reducing the width. It didn't work when you did it before because the "font-size" and "line-height" functions had equal signs instead of colons, which was my mistake when creating the cladogram. Adding an image beside them might not actually be a bad idea now that I think about it. I always thought having bigger cladogram text would be better for the reader, so I tend to not leave space at the right. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 21:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I guess it's a matter of waiting to see if it gains consensus? By the way, isn't it possible to do something with the cladograms in Thalassodromeus so the white space in their right can be filled by an image instead of the strange clash that is currently there? Usually it can be done by making the cladogram text smaller, or the cladograms narrower or something. FunkMonk (talk) 20:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I got a bit curious with the new papers. Speaking about them, what do you think about the Pêgas paper regarding Thalassodromidae? It's actually interesting, it doesn't really do anything phylogenetically, but it does kinda solve the naming inconsistency (Thalassodromidae/Thalassodrominae). I've put up a discussion at Talk:Thalassodrominae about it. Regarding projects, I'm not really into it as much as before, but things could always change though. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 20:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)