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== Editing trouble == | ||
Hello. I don't understand what did I do wrong on my last edit on ]. Can you give me an explication? ] (]) 07:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
This page came to my attention two ways. First was when it was vandalized, and the vandal left a comment alleging criminal wrongdoing against the subject. The comment was of course, instantly removed. About a week later it came up again through a comment from a neighbor about the real-life issues surrounding its subject, none of which unfortunately have made citable press. So I went to look up Mr. Doss and found that his article was very strange. It looks more like an advertisement for his odd little products than a wiki article. I tried to get the ] and found that its page maintainer believes that two short articles about ready-made junk assembled in this guy's barn is enough to keep him on Wiki. I really don't. I've sat and stared at this page. Knowing the gossip that the subject uses the wiki article to establish credibility and to attempt to take advantage of others, I can't leave this without asking for help. There are a pile of other pages on the www about him which are not cited in the wiki article. Please take a look at the links. Search "Doyle Doss Eureka" for more. Thank you for your help. ] (]) 15:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:You added influences with no references. ] (]) 13:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I don't want to touch this one, despite the guy being listed in the federal government-operated National Sex Offender Public Registry for two violations against children. That listing is a primary source, so it is not allowed for controversial information about a living person. If it ''were'' allowed, it would add to the fame of Doss—the opposite effect you want. ] (]) 15:46, 5 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::The problem is, that I'm not sure his products are notable enough to have a wiki page in the first place. Reading the New York Times article I read that Mr. Doss sent the info to the NYT, which would mean that the article was press-release driven. Wiki is not supposed to be used for self-promotion, I don't think this guy is notable enough to have a page from a "kandle heeter" and a modified motorcycle helmet. I don't want to list his official federal stuff on the page, I am hoping for help getting the page removed for non-notability entirely. Thanks, even if you don't want to do something about it, I wanted to explain better. 17:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::], the ''New York Times'' does not print just anything. For whatever reason (sales?) they gave the nod to the article about Doss which is partly why he is rewarded with notability on Misplaced Pages. It sucks, but that's how it works. ] (]) 22:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Greenwood == | ||
Hi, Could you please explain why you remove my edit? ] (]) 19:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Hi. You might want to take a look at the article. Paavo273 is plastering 'citation needed' tags on stuff that appears very well sourced to me. However, I'm no expert on the matter and since your name showed up in the article's history a lot.... Cheers, ''']''' 21:30, 5 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== KB edit == | ||
Hi Binksternet! I know it's been a while, but I just rediscovered this communication with you and wanted to ask again if you would please help me get my article on actor ] published. It seems as if no matter what I do, no matter how hard I try to address each and every one of the Misplaced Pages editors' notes and comments, there's always something new wrong, or the same old things are causing problems in new ways, or the new corrected version is somehow more egregious than the previous draft! In addition, there still seems to be an issue with Zack Norman's notability, which you yourself affirmed months ago. In any event, could you please put the article up for me, as you offered to do so back at the end of March of this year? That would be wonderful. Thanks again so much! All the best, Matthew ] (]) 21:06, 6 September 2013 (UTC) ] (]) 21:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Hi Binksternet -- just wondering if you'd had time to give any consideration to my above letter. Please let me know if there's anything you need to know or that I can do etc. Thanks!! Matthew ] (]) 21:29, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::], I will take a run through the article and bring it into mainspace with sufficient sourcing. I may cut a lot of it, or add new text—we'll see how it goes. Do you have a photo or two you can upload? Something from a few decades ago and something more recent. At least one of the photos should be able to serve as a portrait. ] (]) 22:12, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Hi! I noticed that you reverted my edits for the wiki page of Kathryn Bernardo. I overhauled the whole page as there are too many unnecessary info and clutter. I also corrected a lot of grammatical errors which I think devalues the page. | |||
== Planned Parenthood == | |||
If you will compare my edit from the previous one, it is a big improvement as it is more coherent and concise. I also added present vital info as there are a lot that has been missed. If I may, I will revert my edits on that page as it took me hours to finish it. Rest assured that no critical info has been removed. Thank you. ] (]) 14:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Thank you for your message about citations. | |||
:Whatever improvements you have planned for the biography, don't remove existing citations. The biography is supposed to be a summary of published material, and the citations represent that material. ] (]) 14:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
What citation would you suggest, when I was reporting my own experience of receiving unsolicited phone calls from them? | |||
::I will restore the sources on the previous edit. Thanks. ] (]) 14:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
There must be a way to include descriptions of an organization's behavior that may not have made a citable source. There | |||
::Can I revert back my edit and restore back the sources previously present? I want to avoid edit warring so I'll ask for your permission. ] (]) 14:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
is more to life than gets put in the papers (and lots of what is in the papers is not quite right). | |||
:::You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at ]. ] (]) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. ] (]) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Thanks for keeping so many of the previous citations. ] (]) 15:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Please add "progressive soul" back to the Isley Brothers article == | |||
I do understand the need for citations and reliability, I am a trained scientist. But requiring a citation may be a smokescreen | |||
for removing information the organization prefers not to advertise. | |||
] (]) 23:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Thanks. Adam (Papaloquelites) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:08, 6 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Yes, it's in the source you linked, but they say the group "dabbled" in it, which is not a wholehearted assertion of genre. | |||
:In any case, the genre "progressive soul" must be discussed in the article body before it can be listed in the infobox. ] (]) 23:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Then add it to the body. ] (]) 00:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Robert Christgau also referred to the Isleys as a progressive soul group . ] (]) 00:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Shane McRae edits == | |||
:Please read the Misplaced Pages policy ]. Scientists especially are put off by this hard-and-fast requirement which says that no unpublished conclusions, no matter how well researched, may be put into a Misplaced Pages article. Only previously published ones can. You should write or encourage someone to write about the issue in a newspaper or magazine, or hunt down such an article. After it is published in a reliable source, the issue may be mentioned on the Planned Parenthood page. ] (]) 22:14, 6 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Hello I saw you reversed my edits on the Misplaced Pages pages for Shane McRae and Bad Teacher crediting him for a minor role in the unrated version of the film. I assume this is because he’s not credited on IMDB so I didn’t provide a source, but I actually looked at his page again and saw photo still of him from the film from the scene in the unrated version of the film. Is this enough source to add the film to his page and the credits section of the Bad Teacher page? ] (]) 15:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Jefferson talk... == | |||
:Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts. If the fact hasn't been published, it is not for Misplaced Pages. We are not here to figure out all the missed stuff and make sure it gets in. ] (]) 22:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== You've Got To Hide Your Love Away == | |||
:{{like}}. ;^) | |||
:] (]) 07:45, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
I've undone your removal of the Beach Boys' cover from the "cover versions" section as they did do a cover of this song, on a top 10 charting album, and there are citations provided which confirm this. There was no good reason to remove this info. ] (]) 18:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Disagree with your revert == | |||
:] is the good reason. The cover version doesn't get a boost from being on a Top 10 album; it has to be judged on its own merit. At the bare minimum, the cover version should be described as extraordinary by the media. Any charting cover version is certainly included. ] (]) 22:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
I saw that you reverted my edit to ], and I think that your reasons for doing so were incorrect. Firstly, even if the first paragraph was badly formatted, and I redundantly mentioned the first and second invasions, I feel that the other paragraphs that I edited were substantially better than the old ones. I'd appreciate if you could undo your revert, or at least make it more selective to only encompass the first paragraph of the synopsis. --]] 21:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? ] (]) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't pretend to be the arbiter but I am quite active on Misplaced Pages, so my viewpoint gets more visibility. | |||
:::The thing about the prominence of the Beach Boys is that, if their version of the song "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" wasn't mentioned by the media, then it was judged less important by the media. We would be giving it undue weight if we list it. The fact that the song was released as a single isn't good enough for ]. The single must have charted somewhere to be important. ] (]) 16:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Their version of the song '''was''' mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a '''published fact''' that The Beach Boys, '''an extremely notable band,''' released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I '''am''' providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which '''in and of itself''' is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You '''are''' pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own '''personal''' interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you '''do''' in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. ] (]) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Sticking to what you did, was still a violation of ]. The Slowinski credit in the AV media citation doesn't refer to any prose analysis by Slowinski saying that this cover version was extraordinary in some manner. Instead, Slowinski and Boyd are credited as the researchers who figured out which song contained which musicians from which recording sessions. The songs are not praised or panned in a critical review, just listed in order as part of the album. That's not enough to get through the SONGCOVER requirement. Your second citation is an example of the song being performed live in concert, which again is not enough to increase its importance for Misplaced Pages to notice. Three things can convey importance: chart success, a major award nomination, or critical commentary in books, newspapers, magazines, etc. | |||
:::::Now about my actions: Misplaced Pages's original intent was to summarize a topic's most important points for the reader. It was never meant as a full and complete collection of every fact about a topic. Misplaced Pages's current policy continues with this idea: ] says that the online encyclopedia "does not aim to contain all the information, data or expression known on every subject." There are other websites trying to fill that gap, for instance secondhandsongs is attempting to list every song cover no matter how obscure. Misplaced Pages's refusal to include every fact is the spirit which drives my removal of the lesser known song covers from song articles. ] (]) 05:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Willow Smith == | |||
:You are 100% free to take another stab at the article's plot section, especially now that you see what was the earlier problem. Best wishes! ] (]) 04:30, 8 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
You're calling me out on “awful sourcing” and restored a version that uses a damn YouTube video as a source. Is this a joke? ] (]) 17:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::What is the problem? You really haven't explained it. --]] 20:18, 8 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:I got that one backwards. Sorry. ] (]) 17:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
== Another User:MariaJaydHicky sock? == | |||
::::Was only the first paragraph bad? --]] 17:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Hi there Binksternet, I came across some edits from the above User:ThisIs00k today and noticed that it felt very familiar to this LTA: ]. A bit of genre warring / changes going on, and a heavy focus on R&B music articles. I have already published an SPI report ], but anyways would you agree with my findings that this is another likely sock of MariaJaydHicky? — ] ] 01:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::That's as far as I looked. I saw the redundancy and stopped reading, started reverting. ] (]) 22:13, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, someone's sock. It's also too close to the existing username ] and should be blocked as a spoof. ] (]) 02:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:That is not me. ] (]) 06:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hey. It's been a minute. I was pressed about this author by the name of Ian Hall and his books on One-Hit Wonders of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and whether or not he could be used as a source for the List of One-Hit Wonders in the United States wiki page. He is from Scotland and now lives with his wife in Topeka, Kansas. His book includes chart data from different countries, primarily building off of the Billboard Hot 100 in the states. ] (]) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::You presume correctly. ] (]) 20:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I believe that the arguments offered here have not shown reasonable rational for inclusion of a few early reports that stated that the girl's hymen was intact, while refusing to allow very widely reported information regarding the fact that, contrary to to a statement that he was impotent, a test has confirmed his potency. Since it appears that the editors here believe that they have offered adequate argument and are reverting any attempts to add any mention of the potency test, I wish to draw a wider range of informed, but uninvolved, editors who have participated in previous discussions on the same or closely related topics. ] has done a lot of work with women's issues, ] has medical-related knowledge, and ] has worked on rape-related articles. I will place an invitation to comment on their talk pages. Of course, other editors are welcome to ask for other opinions as well. | |||
::::Am not surprised to see an old favourite editor, and a new favourite, collaborating. Cheers, both. Press on. ] (]) 05:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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The article originally contained mostly information of setback on skyscrapers / metropolitan areas which is not where people are mostly affected. If you feel some comments to be NPOV, I have revised that as this was not my intension. | |||
Setbacks in rural areas are mostly set by the jurisdiction without owners consent and need in mind. Furthermore it must be noted that there are more exceptions to static setbacks and that criticism arises from drawback of wasted space. It is also noted that other countries respect mutual agreement between people whereas most jurisdictions in the US don't allow such agreements when it comes to setbacks. It is my understanding that jurisdictions should use their given powers with sense of proportion. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
You might look back to the ] article, and the hodge-podge "Focus, pacing, style, and interpretation" section. There is a lot of unsourced essay content there, that I simply can't bold-edit away myself (because editing from IP, and knowing what it likely will trigger). And good working alongside you today. Cheers. A former logging editor and Prof. ] (]) 05:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Answered on your talk page. ] (]) 21:33, 10 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Cheers. I'll take another look. ] (]) 06:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per ], the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per ], the plot section is written in the ], which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. ] (]) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I support your redactive edits to move ] away from its overly long Plot, to hit ca. 700 words. I would argue that the Plot now opens with a name of principle character only revealed with certainty later in the novel—at open, only hints appear tht the principle character is Tenar; she is identified as Goha. I think the Plot summary should use Goha, until the point in the narrative that it is revealed that Goha is the preceding novel's Tenar. (But I will not be the one to even partially revert your edit.) And still believe that the "Focus, pacing, style, interpretation" section should get your honing attention (for it contains a lot of unsourced editorial content). Cheers. ] (]) 10:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== 808s & Heartbreak == | |||
== Your ] nomination of ]== | |||
It's look like MariaJaydHicky is genre warring in '']'' . ] (]) 07:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:Socking as a lifetime career. ] (]) 07:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point ]. ] (]) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::It would benefit the community greatly to know what is their motivation. We might be able to use that information to redirect their energies. | |||
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:::That particular discussion in your link showed that MJH was pleading innocent at the same time she was block evading with IPs and socks. Pop psychology suggests that this kind of lying comes from narcissism's disconnect with shame or guilt. Anna Frodesiak tried to guide MJH gently toward Wikia, but MJH ignored the hint. I don't know what we could say or do to get a narcissist to go away to spend their time elsewhere. ] (]) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::::Thanks. I don't have much faith in pop psychology. But would surprise me if no one has researched this topic yet. I'll ask around. ] (]) 20:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Invitation to participate in ] == | |||
Wouldn't a note section be more appropriate than a footnote? I can attempt that but you seem more skilled at editing so have a go if you want to do so. Thanks ] (]) 05:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC) I did make a footnote section but I just noticed a post of yours which I placed below. I have made good faith edits and have no control over my IP changing (it just changed today). Roscolese stalked my edits and changed all my edits made yesterday and made accusations on my talk page related to abortion issues. ] clearly is agenda driven and did in fact edit stalk my posts and edit warred on them. Do not feed her please. Thanks again. | |||
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:Interesting concept. I'll take advantage some day. ] (]) 01:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Quick question == | |||
Discretionary sanctions on all abortion topics | |||
So there's this LTA by the name of User:MidAtlanticBaby who has been going around and copy-pasting some story usually attacking other editors or seeking attention from admins and whatnot, over and over and over again, across the help desk, teahouse and various other help forums or noticeboards (]). I've noticed that the "Demographics vandal" you've been dealing with lately also does something incredibly similar as well, where they repeatedly spam some big block of text on the help desk and/or teahouse, which all later have to be revdelled just like MAB's posts. I've never seen any of the posts by the demographics vandal for myself before, so I'm not exactly sure as to whether these two names are two different people or not. I'm quite very familiar with MAB but not so much with the demographics vandal. Anyway, can you confirm with me whether these are two different persons? That's all. Thanks! — ] ] 06:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I am taking this opportunity to tell you that Misplaced Pages has enabled administrators to make discretionary sanctions against any editor who appears to be acting against the purposes of Misplaced Pages. An editor who is adding biased text or who is promoting a cause may be blocked. Your actions at National Pro-Life Religious Council include the repeated addition of text without bringing the issue up at the talk page, an extension of your other IP address Special:Contributions/208.54.40.220. Make certain you are able to win consensus on the talk page if your text is reverted. Using multiple IP addresses is not a protection from the rules against edit warring. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 04:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The person I call the Demographics vandal is a complex case, with more than one area of interest. I wouldn't be surprised to find they have other disruptive behavior patterns than the ones listed at ]. | |||
==New Concern== | |||
:I've seen some of the MAB disruption but I haven't studied it. I cannot confirm these are two different people. ] (]) 06:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I noticed you reverted another edit to ] that Roscoelese stalked. You undid POV based revert performed by Roscoelese as I mentioned above. You state your reason as: 03:17, 14 September 2013 Binksternet (talk | contribs) . . (6,159 bytes) (-566) . . (Reverted to revision 572760445 by Roscelese: Revert POV changes. (TW)) (undo) How is breaking the article into logical sections POV, or quoting the founder of the movement and paraphrasing the long existing sources comments POV. The source is even in opposition to the organization. The founder's quote as to why she started the organization is entirely relevant and even essential. How can that be POV pushing? Taking the founder's quote out would demonstrate poor judgment and some other possible concerns. I will assume good faith and ask you to have a better look at the full revert you made. I see some history with Roscoelese that does cause me some concern but I look forward to working with you in a non-adversarial manner. Please have a better look so as to improve the article which I believe my edit achieved. I believe reverts are often misused for many reasons. It takes much more effort to improve an article than to injure an article. Please respect other editors efforts that meet the Wiki guidelines and correct the area you have an issue with and avoid frequent use of reverts whenever possible. It is my belief the vast majority of editors have something to add. Correct the errors you have documentation to prove. Because you do not like IP's that is no reason to use less discretion and discernment if that is the case. I am unsure why you reverted the whole thing based on your vague reason. So I would also ask you to be more specific especially when reverting so it does not appear suspicious. Thanks for looking into this matter and considering my concerns. ] (]) 09:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I see, got it. — ] ] 06:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{tps}} Nobody likes dynamic IPs, as they make it difficult to communicate with the user. As an alternative to pointing out on your (momentary) talkpage that you use different IP's, have you considered creating an account, so you can more easily take ownership of your editing? As for your "possible concerns" and "suspicions", they constitute a passive-aggressive attack, however much you talk of assuming good faith, so you might want to consider retracting them. Binksternet's revert was correct and his edit summary quite adequate. ] | ] 09:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC). | |||
== Inquiry about an article created at the English language Vikidia == | |||
==Please Do Not Add Frivolous Accusations to My Talk Page== | |||
Adding to an article that I was working on before is not reverting. Please look up revert for a clear definition. I will still assume good faith but my concern of other intentions has grown. Please remember false accusations can result in adverse action towards the accuser. | |||
Good morning! My name is Christian, and I'm an administrator on the English language children's encyclopedia called Vikidia. This morning, an article has been created, by someone using your WP username, and it's about you. | |||
== What do you think of this? == | |||
Could I ask if you have authorised this, please? If not, the article will be deleted as a violation of BLP. It features material taken word for word, from your userpage here, and is unsourced. | |||
What are your thoughts on ? ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 19:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Many thanks for your attention, ]|] 09:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I think that was a poorly considered interference in the the normal process of consensus based on a mistaken assumption that the ArbCom case already covered the question. The closure stinks. ] (]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks Bink. Perhaps you would consider weighing-in at the . ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 00:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I did not authorize it. Thank you in advance for deleting it. ] (]) 14:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
::{{tps}} ], I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. ] | ] 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC). | |||
::: Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! ]|] 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::To confirm, the user / vandal impersonating you at the English Vikidia has been indefinitely blocked for impersonation, our recent change logs indicate you did not authorise the article, and that too has been deleted and create protected to admin only. The userpage has been wiped, and the contents of the user's edit summaries have been suppressed within our logs. | |||
::::I'd like to apologise for the delay in dealing with this, but I have been without internet for part of today, and been unable to get on here. If you ever wish to have a presence on the site, please leave a message on my talk page here, and I'll unlock the userpage and its associated talk, as well as unblock the account. With regards, ]|] 20:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Thank you for your prompt action. I will consider your kind offfer. ] (]) 20:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Origin of the term "Lost Cause" == | |||
Please dont give warnings to other editors when ''you'' misunderstand guidelines. This is ''disruptive''. | |||
*''Use "Ireland" for the state except where the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context'' | |||
*''An exception is where the state forms a major component of the topic (e.g. on '''articles relating to states, politics or governance''') where "Ireland" should be preferred and the island should be referred to as the "island of Ireland"'' | |||
*''Per the Linking guideline of the Manual of Style, the names of major geographic features and locations should not be linked. If it is thought necessary to link, in order to establish context or for any other reason, the name of the state should be pipelinked as ]'' | |||
You're right that I did too much original research. I'll try to redo it referencing this source that has good info, including a section on the origin of the term and several of the sources I included. https://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2444&context=theses That thesis suggests that Pollard might have picked up the term from an article in a rival Memphis paper in 11/16/1865, but I have a source that shows he used the term himself a day earlier than that. Pollard himself wrote in 1872 that he suggested the title to the publisher, but he was using the term himself even before the book was written. I don't have the Ulbrich book, but will try to get a copy. ] (]) 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I left an appropriate note on the editors talkpage, when his edits didnt follow these, I am leave a note on your talkpage when ''your'' edits havent followed these. The first point, second point and third point above all apply against your edits. If you can show what guidelines support your edits I would be happy to self-revert. ] (]) 13:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Cheers, and thanks for having a good attitude. ] (]) 22:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:Adding "''''", please again read the guidelines and understand ther is only one legal jurisdiction and state called Ireland- thats its full, long short, formal and commonname. Please dont confuse an article title with what the subject of the article is called. ] (]) 15:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::Okay, I see what you are referring to in IMOS. Thanks for pulling the appropriate quotes out for me. | |||
::There is one little issue regarding ], though. The guideline says "links should not be placed in the boldface reiteration of the title in the opening sentence of a lead" but the following articles violate this directive: | |||
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::*]. These instances of a wikilinked/piped linked "Ireland" ought to be unlinked to comply with BOLDTITLE. ] (]) 17:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== "Too specific" isn't a real standard. Don't randomly delete content without attempting discussion please. == | |||
:::All four now conforming to ] as pointed out. Cheers for the help. ] (]) 18:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Hi. This is regarding your deletion of the section on the ] page. There is a section on the talk page for discussion, but you did not participate, either before, during, or after your deletion. Although it appears to be a common practice to delete the edits and additions of newcomers, it is still against Misplaced Pages rules and guidelines. Please follow the rules. If you're going to assert that content should be deleted, discuss it on the talk page. I did that, multiple times in fact. I was very patient. I was very careful. I spent a lot of time, and did a lot of work. "Too specific" is not a real standard, and I do intend to revert your edit. Magnolia did in fact consistently blatantly and deliberately violate Misplaced Pages's rules. The fact that there was an actual torture ring conducted by the Sonoma County government is in fact notable, whether or not people think it should be covered up is irrelevant. The fact that the person who organized the lawsuit against the County for the torture ring in 2015 was shot in the face with a crowd control "stingball" grenade is also notable. Again, please respect Misplaced Pages's rules. I don't know how much simpler I can put it. Don't delete content without participating in discussion. There has been a section on the talk page for more than 18 months. I put it there, to give people a forum to discuss the sections that I eventually added, after diligence, and patience. 18 month old invalid arguments do not weigh on consensus. Bad faith deletions do not weigh on consensus. "Too specific" isn't even applicable, firstly, and secondly it's plainly not a real standard. It's not valid. The content is notable, and is properly sourced. Merely throwing in your hat with Magnolia to cover up extremely heinous acts of brutality because you personally want the article to read like a tourist brochure does not weigh on consensus. You need a valid reason. The fact that you didn't participate in the talk page seems to implicate a lacking thereof. The page is about the County. The content relates to the County and it is not reasonably disputable that it should be in the article, if the article is to be considered objective. The article is not a tourist brochure.] (]) 11:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== WikiProject Military history coordinator election == | |||
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I'm not going to revert , but I will argue that the text added to ] is inappropriate. Beyond the simple problems of bolding of headers, meta-analysis like " While the page currently focuses on the legislative details, it is essential to explore the broader social and political dynamics that led to its passage." is a discussion of the page and should be on the talk page, not in the article. I also suspect that quite a lot of that text is a copyvio and it has some fairly serious ] issues. Can you take a closer look? Thanks, ] (]) 07:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Your revert earlier this year of reasonably useful-looking content supplied by MarkWest1 == | |||
:Yes, I'll look. I guess we had an edit conflict, but I didn't get a notice saying so. I thought the person's contribution was very flawed and so I removed the worst bits. You thought it was very flawed and removed all of it. I might end up agreeing more with your solution. ] (]) 15:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== WTF DUDE???? == | |||
Greetings Binksternet -- I am trying to broker a peace agreement, or at least a consensus on what should be included in the article, ]. Contact me via my talkpage if you have comments/complaints/questions/whatever. Thanks. ] (]) 07:55, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Dude Why TF are u reverting my edits. The video clearly is credible as MrBeast shows proof himself and u literally did not look at it ] (]) 21:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Regarding latest revert on Aam Aadmi Party page == | |||
:I did look at it, and what I saw was some clowning around in the studio. But the single , so you got me there. ] (]) 22:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Flag Icons for 1920's Time Magazine Covers == | |||
Hello Binksternet, | |||
I suggest inclusion of agitation of battery operated rickshaw drivers in 'protests' section because: | |||
The issue of e-rikshaws is not a minor issue as it has a definite history even before AAP supported demands of drivers. In Delhi these rickshaws run between Delhi Metro stations & nearby areas. Delhi government had decided to come down hard on the operators of the battery operated rickshaws last year. There is also a PIL in Delhi Highcourt seeking ban on e-rickshaws due to reasons mentioned in following link for which Delhi High Court has asked government to respond. | |||
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-12/delhi/42007556_1_e-rickshaws-pil-seeking-ban-sugriv-dubey | |||
In the backdrop of these updates, AAP has supported the cause of battery-operated rickshaw drivers & instead of banning them they have demanded a concrete policy for them. While checking the AAP website, I came across an entire article dedicated to this cause as below: | |||
http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/news/stop-targeting-battery-rickshaw-operators-arvind-kejriwal | |||
This makes it an issue of considerable weight. | |||
Moreover the 'protest' section of AAP includes its support to auto rickshaw driver on 10 June 2013 which is similar in its impact to the battery operated rickshaw drivers demand. So if agitation of 10 June 2013 stays, agitation of 16 September should also stay. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:44, 17 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Is the flag icons next to names on the list of time magazine articles not the correct format? I saw you also removed the flags for the other covers as well. ] (]) 12:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:As I understand ] and ], the flag should only be used if the person is coming to the list as a representative of their country, for instance athletes coming to the Olympics would show the flag of the country they are competing for. If a list of people is not associated with official representation of the country, then flags are not appropriate. Or if multiple politicians got together to discuss world affairs, they might be shown with the flag they represent. The ''Time'' magazine cover is not an athletic competition and it's not a convention of international politicians. ] (]) 15:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks for your response. The 'Times of India' article was given to highlight the importance & existance of the issue even before Aam Aadmi Party supported it. To highlight importance of Aam Aadmi Party's stand on it please see below the links which are not primary sources. http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/now-erickshaw-drivers-join-aam-aadmi-party/article5133817.ece http://post.jagran.com/lack-of-proper-policy-hurting-erickshaw-operators-in-delhi-says-aap-1379317880. Furthermore I am not interested in 'edit war' & only trying to highlight necessity of uniform standards on the article under discussion.--ratastro 14:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== I'm going to need some evidence for this claim == | |||
:::@Binksternet, Following the support of AAM to the demand of e-rickshaw drivers to draft a concrete policy, Delhi government constituted a committee to come up with report & guidelines on these type of vehicles. Following are the references http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Govt-plans-panel-on-e-rickshaw-after-Aam-Aadmi-Party-backs-them/articleshow/22672524.cms http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/committee-on-status-of-erickshaws-in-delhi/article5140942.ece & http://www.indianexpress.com/news/govt-appoints-committee-to-lay-down-guidelines-for-erickshaws/1170516/ I think this proves that the issue is not minor & can be included in the article.--ratastro 11:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
I am not "evading" anything. Now surely for you to accuse me of block evasion, you must have some real strong evidence, chief. Let's have it. ] (]) 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
==September 2013== | |||
:See ] which lists a ton of IPs in your range, and identical behavior. ] (]) 22:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Possible sock puppet of MariaJaydHicky == | |||
Your recent edit to ] (), viewed in the larger context of numerous false accusations and flagrant misunderstanding of content, many examples of which were detailed meticulously by Stalwart (), raises concerns of ]. In reverting my title which (per the specific and explicit focus of the secondary RS which discussed the passage) indicated Hoppe's views on physically removing homosexuals, you say that "The complaints include reference to Jews, Blacks, etc." Hoppe says '''nothing whasoever''' about jews and blacks in the quoted passage, and ''in their response to the relevant passage'', none of the RS say he talked about them either. That Hoppe has been criticized for anti-Semitic or racist remarks in some contexts does not mean every passage he wrote is (or has been considered) racist or anti-Semitic. It is highly concerning that you appear to accept this wildly illogical inference as fact. | |||
I don't know if this user is related to MariaJaydHicky, but it appears to be the case . ] (]) 09:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
A crucial part of competence is ''reading comprehension''. Text needs to be read carefully to be comprehended. Please redouble your efforts in this regard moving forward. ] (]) 03:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I see gaming the system of protection by gaining autoconfirmed status then immediately reverting a protected page, in this case the Nicki Minaj bio four days after first registering, showing in that the user has been here before the hip hop article was moved from ] to ] which happened on December 2. The user account was created on December 17, so if they were a completely new user, they would only know the hyphenated hip-hop link, and they wouldn't try and correct it. ] (]) 16:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Your recent edits make no sense. == | |||
:Did you completely miss the reference to yellow stars? ] (]) 05:19, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:In the bigger picture, I think it is pretty lame of you to avoid the Hans-Hermann Hoppe talk page to tell interested editors your reasoning for your repeated reverts even after Srich started the discussion for you. (You were supposed to start that discussion yourself per ].) Instead, you send this determinedly half-context note to my talk page, obstinately mischaracterizing the issue. This behavior does not win any arguments. ] (]) 05:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:: Typically that would be the case. This is special circumstances, given that your flagrantly erroneous assertions are of a piece with a much wider pattern of behavior which raises ] concerns, as noted above. ] (]) 07:44, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::You can say I'm incompetent all day long and I will ignore that portion of your communication as ridiculous. ] (]) 13:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
{{od}} Binksternet, I don't have a horse in this race, but if you'll review ] you'll see that your post immediately above this could be interpreted as a sign of "social" incompetence as described there. Good luck to you and Steeletrap. ]] 19:22, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:You started me laughing at "I don't have a horse in this race". ] (]) 19:52, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Unintentional. I presume you thought it amusing I would compare the two of you to horses, or stubborn mules, or whatever. Purely unintentional. ]] 19:55, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Request == | |||
Hi, Binksternet. I don't know if you remember me, but I was one half of a WP:3O discussion that you oversaw at "List of fictional badgers". If you remember you basically opined in favor of the other editor and then based on this I expanded the article quite a bit - giving it a proper lede and adding several further list members on top of restoring all of the original list members. Since this time the list article has been noted in an article by The Guardian as "a thing of beauty" - a fact for which you share partial credit. | |||
The other day, I added the punk rock categories to the pages for speed metal and death metal, but you removed them. After reading the pages for those genres, I saw no mention of hardcore punk, so I removed them from the Hardcore punk template, but you added them back. What is the meaning of that? ] (]) 22:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Anyway I'm currently writing a feature for the WikiProject Video Games Newsletter on the topic of list article management. I'm seeking to include in this article a variety of different list topics (including non video game lists) and different editorial perspectives, and I was wondering if you would be able to help me by writing a brief paragraph or two on the topic of the "list of fictional badgers". Specifically I'd be interest in some discussion of how our inclusion of a lede worked so well and if possible it might be nice to mention the praise we've received from The Guardian (linked at the article's talk page). The newsletter is due by October 3 so there are 2 weeks to write something if you have the time. You can find the working draft of the article and where your contributions would be needed at ] (just text search your username). Please don't feel obliged. If you can help me then great, but if not that's fine too. Either way, thanks in advance. -] (]) 18:33, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Your genre edits have been based on looking around at other Misplaced Pages articles. I have pointed this problem out repeatedly to you, saying that other Misplaced Pages articles cannot be considered reliable per ]. Back in 2021 ] instead, but you don't appear to be able or willing to do this. That's why I have a giant bug up my ass about your edits. ] (]) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:That sounds like a fun project. I'll look at the old versions to refresh my memory and then I'll think about what I might write. No promises at this point. ] (]) 19:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. ] (]) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Sounds good. Feel free to edit the draft directly if you get a chance. Thank you. -] (]) 02:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. ] (]) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::It was a ''lack'' of sources I was going on. ] (]) 17:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Why would you revert the italicization of ]. And why do it with zero edit summary - do you really believe it to be vandalism? ] (]) 08:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:You added a borough right next to the note that says no boroughs. ] (]) 15:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in ] and ] and ] and ]? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --] (]) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::] says to list the city. People have interpreted that to mean nothing below the city level, as some rappers were starting to list which neighborhood or even which apartment project. Local consensus at ] was clearly and explicitly against listing the borough, so you would want to take the issue up with the frequent participants there. ] (]) 15:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Editing trouble
Hello. I don't understand what did I do wrong on my last edit on Jaska Raatikainen. Can you give me an explication? Loyal to Metal (talk) 07:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- You added influences with no references. Binksternet (talk) 13:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Greenwood
Hi, Could you please explain why you remove my edit? Rabbitsforever (talk) 19:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
KB edit
Hi! I noticed that you reverted my edits for the wiki page of Kathryn Bernardo. I overhauled the whole page as there are too many unnecessary info and clutter. I also corrected a lot of grammatical errors which I think devalues the page.
If you will compare my edit from the previous one, it is a big improvement as it is more coherent and concise. I also added present vital info as there are a lot that has been missed. If I may, I will revert my edits on that page as it took me hours to finish it. Rest assured that no critical info has been removed. Thank you. Itslouagain (talk) 14:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Whatever improvements you have planned for the biography, don't remove existing citations. The biography is supposed to be a summary of published material, and the citations represent that material. Binksternet (talk) 14:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will restore the sources on the previous edit. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can I revert back my edit and restore back the sources previously present? I want to avoid edit warring so I'll ask for your permission. Itslouagain (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at User:Itslouagain/sandbox. Binksternet (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for keeping so many of the previous citations. Binksternet (talk) 15:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is noted. All citations previously removed were restored. Page now grew to 77 references. Thanks. Itslouagain (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can copy the article into your userspace and work on it there. Your userspace sandbox would be at User:Itslouagain/sandbox. Binksternet (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Please add "progressive soul" back to the Isley Brothers article
Source 166.181.255.91 (talk) 23:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it's in the source you linked, but they say the group "dabbled" in it, which is not a wholehearted assertion of genre.
- In any case, the genre "progressive soul" must be discussed in the article body before it can be listed in the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Then add it to the body. 166.181.255.91 (talk) 00:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Robert Christgau also referred to the Isleys as a progressive soul group in the 1970s. 166.181.255.91 (talk) 00:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Shane McRae edits
Hello I saw you reversed my edits on the Misplaced Pages pages for Shane McRae and Bad Teacher crediting him for a minor role in the unrated version of the film. I assume this is because he’s not credited on IMDB so I didn’t provide a source, but I actually looked at his page again and saw this photo still of him from the film from the scene in the unrated version of the film. Is this enough source to add the film to his page and the credits section of the Bad Teacher page? 2600:6C47:BCF0:9440:1B7:1B7F:B1C6:C415 (talk) 15:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts. If the fact hasn't been published, it is not for Misplaced Pages. We are not here to figure out all the missed stuff and make sure it gets in. Binksternet (talk) 22:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
I've undone your removal of the Beach Boys' cover from the "cover versions" section as they did do a cover of this song, on a top 10 charting album, and there are citations provided which confirm this. There was no good reason to remove this info. 2603:8000:AC00:4300:99C2:F5DB:AC50:72B9 (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:SONGCOVER is the good reason. The cover version doesn't get a boost from being on a Top 10 album; it has to be judged on its own merit. At the bare minimum, the cover version should be described as extraordinary by the media. Any charting cover version is certainly included. Binksternet (talk) 22:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:14DA:9FFB:7925:E78D (talk) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't pretend to be the arbiter but I am quite active on Misplaced Pages, so my viewpoint gets more visibility.
- The thing about the prominence of the Beach Boys is that, if their version of the song "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" wasn't mentioned by the media, then it was judged less important by the media. We would be giving it undue weight if we list it. The fact that the song was released as a single isn't good enough for WP:SONGCOVER. The single must have charted somewhere to be important. Binksternet (talk) 16:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Their version of the song was mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a published fact that The Beach Boys, an extremely notable band, released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I am providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which in and of itself is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You are pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own personal interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you do in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:BAB7:4F59:D434:549 (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sticking to what you did, your second edit which included two references was still a violation of WP:SONGCOVER. The Slowinski credit in the AV media citation doesn't refer to any prose analysis by Slowinski saying that this cover version was extraordinary in some manner. Instead, Slowinski and Boyd are credited as the researchers who figured out which song contained which musicians from which recording sessions. The songs are not praised or panned in a critical review, just listed in order as part of the album. That's not enough to get through the SONGCOVER requirement. Your second citation is an example of the song being performed live in concert, which again is not enough to increase its importance for Misplaced Pages to notice. Three things can convey importance: chart success, a major award nomination, or critical commentary in books, newspapers, magazines, etc.
- Now about my actions: Misplaced Pages's original intent was to summarize a topic's most important points for the reader. It was never meant as a full and complete collection of every fact about a topic. Misplaced Pages's current policy continues with this idea: Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not says that the online encyclopedia "does not aim to contain all the information, data or expression known on every subject." There are other websites trying to fill that gap, for instance secondhandsongs is attempting to list every song cover no matter how obscure. Misplaced Pages's refusal to include every fact is the spirit which drives my removal of the lesser known song covers from song articles. Binksternet (talk) 05:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Their version of the song was mentioned by the media, in the examples I provided as well as others. Even if it is "less important" than the original song (an impossible metric for any cover of a Beatles song to top), that doesn't mean it doesn't merit a mention in the article. Nowhere in the song cover guidelines does it say that a cover version must have charted as a single to be considered noteworthy. I'll quote your response to the user above: "Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a summary of published facts." It is a published fact that The Beach Boys, an extremely notable band, released a cover version of this song, which was also released as a single and has been discussed, as I've now provided multiple links attesting to. Per the songcover guidelines, a cover should EITHER be "discussed by a reliable source, showing that it is noteworthy in its own right. Merely appearing in an album track listing, a discography, etc. is not sufficient" OR meet the requirements for a standalone page. I'm not trying to create a standalone page for this or act like it deserves one. But I am providing much more evidence than the examples listed in the guidelines as insufficient ("an album track listing or discography"). This satisfies the first of the two criteria listed, which in and of itself is sufficient to merit its inclusion in the article. It would not be giving it "undue weight" but an entirely appropriate mention. In fact, I can go to many, many other musician's pages and find dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of less notable cover songs than this one being included, without issue. Since it bothers you so much and you've decided it's your prerogative, why haven't you gone and cleaned house on every other music page? You are pretending to be the arbiter here - the fact that you do this a lot doesn't mean that you're not doing it. You are being willfully obtuse and overly proscriptive in your own personal interpretation of these guidelines - to what end I can't imagine, unless it's to satisfy some personal bias. A cursory Google search of your username shows that you have quite a reputation as something of a Misplaced Pages bully, who uses the pretense of neutrality to inject your own personal bias into articles - and looking deeper into your edit history confirms this to be true. Given that, it's clear that there's no way I'm going to get you to do a 180 and admit that you're wrong here, and you'll just keep removing valid edits until people get fed up and leave - so that's what I'm doing, congratulations you win again. But I'll leave you with this: I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you didn't actually set out to codify your personal biases and beliefs in a space that's supposed to be a public resource of neutral information, and that you do in fact believe that you're acting in good faith in defense of said neutrality. Based on your edit history and your rightly-earned reputation, I would suggest that you might consider that you've lost sight of your (correct and ultimately noble) goal and have let your personal biases get in the way of doing what you clearly see as your job - to the detriment of Misplaced Pages and its reputation as a source of information. Nobody in the world is perfect, but you seem to have an entirely inflated and unhealthy sense of your own infallibility, which doesn't serve you (or anyone else) well. Just food for thought. 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:BAB7:4F59:D434:549 (talk) 01:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe if we were talking about a less notable group, but it seems to me that the fact that specifically The Beach Boys - being the most successful American band (of the decade and possibly of all time) and specifically in 1965 at the peak of their popularity and much-ballyhooed rivalry with The Beatles - recorded and released a cover of a Beatles song on an album that went to #6 in the US and #3 in the UK is noteworthy enough to warrant a sentence's mention on the song's page. It feels like a glaring enough omission NOT to include it that while reading this page I went "oh wow why isn't that here? I'll be a diligent Misplaced Pages user and add it." But since that's not enough for you (and apparently you're the ultimate arbiter here?) it was also released as a single in Japan in 1966 and here are two reviews which mention it as a standout track on the album and HERE are two Beatles(not Beach Boys)-centric websites which mention it outside of the context of the album . Can that be it please? 2603:8000:BDF0:B930:14DA:9FFB:7925:E78D (talk) 05:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Willow Smith
You're calling me out on “awful sourcing” and restored a version that uses a damn YouTube video as a source. Is this a joke? ThisIs00k (talk) 17:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I got that one backwards. Sorry. Binksternet (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Another User:MariaJaydHicky sock?
Hi there Binksternet, I came across some edits from the above User:ThisIs00k today and noticed that it felt very familiar to this LTA: WP:LTA/MJH. A bit of genre warring / changes going on, and a heavy focus on R&B music articles. I have already published an SPI report over here, but anyways would you agree with my findings that this is another likely sock of MariaJaydHicky? — AP 499D25 (talk) 01:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, someone's sock. It's also too close to the existing username User:This0k and should be blocked as a spoof. Binksternet (talk) 02:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is not me. This0k (talk) 06:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Unhelpful edit summaries
I don't think "Nope nope nope" and "Rv image vandalis," are helpful edit summaries when reverting good faith edits, which is what these appear to be. Is there something I'm missing here? — Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Loosen up. Those edit summaries were meant to alert longstanding editors that consensus was being violated. I'm not going to change my style for the few times I choose to sound the alarm. Binksternet (talk) 18:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- And why would longstanding editors need to be alerted? I'm just saying, a less bitey approach might have been better. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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Question about an author and his book
Hey. It's been a minute. I was pressed about this author by the name of Ian Hall and his books on One-Hit Wonders of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and whether or not he could be used as a source for the List of One-Hit Wonders in the United States wiki page. He is from Scotland and now lives with his wife in Topeka, Kansas. His book includes chart data from different countries, primarily building off of the Billboard Hot 100 in the states. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- The problem with his books is that they are self-published through CreateSpace. That means WP:USERG is the applicable guideline. The books are not considered a reliable source unless Ian Hall can be argued as a notable expert on music topics. Is he famous for music analysis or criticism? Binksternet (talk) 02:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I can't say he's famous from the looks of it. Even if he knows his stuff really well. I could be inaccurate on that though. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 02:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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A need for some privacy
Could I contact you via e-mail over a Misplaced Pages editing matter concerning another editor, that I think should not be open for all to see, at least for the time being ? Nothing too sinister or deep, but you know how it goes. Or you can contact me on derekrbullamore@yahoo.co.uk, whichever suits you. Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will ping you offline. Binksternet (talk) 20:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I presume you mean off-Wiki ! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- You presume correctly. Binksternet (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Am not surprised to see an old favourite editor, and a new favourite, collaborating. Cheers, both. Press on. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 05:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- You presume correctly. Binksternet (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hey friend.
You might look back to the Tehanu article, and the hodge-podge "Focus, pacing, style, and interpretation" section. There is a lot of unsourced essay content there, that I simply can't bold-edit away myself (because editing from IP, and knowing what it likely will trigger). And good working alongside you today. Cheers. A former logging editor and Prof. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 05:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cheers. I'll take another look. Binksternet (talk) 06:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per WP:NOVELPLOT, the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per MOS:PLOT, the plot section is written in the narrative present, which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. Binksternet (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I support your redactive edits to move Tehanu away from its overly long Plot, to hit ca. 700 words. I would argue that the Plot now opens with a name of principle character only revealed with certainty later in the novel—at open, only hints appear tht the principle character is Tenar; she is identified as Goha. I think the Plot summary should use Goha, until the point in the narrative that it is revealed that Goha is the preceding novel's Tenar. (But I will not be the one to even partially revert your edit.) And still believe that the "Focus, pacing, style, interpretation" section should get your honing attention (for it contains a lot of unsourced editorial content). Cheers. 73.110.70.75 (talk) 10:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I restored the shorter plot section that I had copyedited. Per WP:NOVELPLOT, the plot section should not exceed 700 words. Per MOS:PLOT, the plot section is written in the narrative present, which is a change I enacted. If the plot is very briefly summarized elsewhere, for instance in the lead section, then this summary is written from the author's perspective. Binksternet (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
808s & Heartbreak
It's look like MariaJaydHicky is genre warring in 808s & Heartbreak . TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 07:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Socking as a lifetime career. Binksternet (talk) 07:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point User_talk:MariaJaydHicky2. Polygnotus (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- It would benefit the community greatly to know what is their motivation. We might be able to use that information to redirect their energies.
- That particular discussion in your link showed that MJH was pleading innocent at the same time she was block evading with IPs and socks. Pop psychology suggests that this kind of lying comes from narcissism's disconnect with shame or guilt. Anna Frodesiak tried to guide MJH gently toward Wikia, but MJH ignored the hint. I don't know what we could say or do to get a narcissist to go away to spend their time elsewhere. Binksternet (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I don't have much faith in pop psychology. But would surprise me if no one has researched this topic yet. I'll ask around. Polygnotus (talk) 20:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have research into what motivates LTAs? In this case someone made an attempt at some point User_talk:MariaJaydHicky2. Polygnotus (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- Thanks! Appreciated. Binksternet (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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Quick question
So there's this LTA by the name of User:MidAtlanticBaby who has been going around and copy-pasting some story usually attacking other editors or seeking attention from admins and whatnot, over and over and over again, across the help desk, teahouse and various other help forums or noticeboards (example diff). I've noticed that the "Demographics vandal" you've been dealing with lately also does something incredibly similar as well, where they repeatedly spam some big block of text on the help desk and/or teahouse, which all later have to be revdelled just like MAB's posts. I've never seen any of the posts by the demographics vandal for myself before, so I'm not exactly sure as to whether these two names are two different people or not. I'm quite very familiar with MAB but not so much with the demographics vandal. Anyway, can you confirm with me whether these are two different persons? That's all. Thanks! — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- The person I call the Demographics vandal is a complex case, with more than one area of interest. I wouldn't be surprised to find they have other disruptive behavior patterns than the ones listed at Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Demographics vandal.
- I've seen some of the MAB disruption but I haven't studied it. I cannot confirm these are two different people. Binksternet (talk) 06:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see, got it. — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Inquiry about an article created at the English language Vikidia
Good morning! My name is Christian, and I'm an administrator on the English language children's encyclopedia called Vikidia. This morning, an article has been created, by someone using your WP username, and it's about you.
Could I ask if you have authorised this, please? If not, the article will be deleted as a violation of BLP. It features material taken word for word, from your userpage here, and is unsourced.
Many thanks for your attention, Dane|Geld 09:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I did not authorize it. Thank you in advance for deleting it. Binksternet (talk) 14:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) DaneGeld, I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. Bishonen | tålk 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC).
- Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! Dane|Geld 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- To confirm, the user / vandal impersonating you at the English Vikidia has been indefinitely blocked for impersonation, our recent change logs indicate you did not authorise the article, and that too has been deleted and create protected to admin only. The userpage has been wiped, and the contents of the user's edit summaries have been suppressed within our logs.
- I'd like to apologise for the delay in dealing with this, but I have been without internet for part of today, and been unable to get on here. If you ever wish to have a presence on the site, please leave a message on my talk page here, and I'll unlock the userpage and its associated talk, as well as unblock the account. With regards, Dane|Geld 20:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your prompt action. I will consider your kind offfer. Binksternet (talk) 20:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll remove it now, and indef the creator. Sorry for the delay! Dane|Geld 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) DaneGeld, I see it has not been deleted yet, and the user "Binksternet" should surely be blocked. They have now made a second edit; note the edit summary. Bishonen | tålk 19:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC).
Origin of the term "Lost Cause"
You're right that I did too much original research. I'll try to redo it referencing this source that has good info, including a section on the origin of the term and several of the sources I included. https://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2444&context=theses That thesis suggests that Pollard might have picked up the term from an article in a rival Memphis paper in 11/16/1865, but I have a source that shows he used the term himself a day earlier than that. Pollard himself wrote in 1872 that he suggested the title to the publisher, but he was using the term himself even before the book was written. I don't have the Ulbrich book, but will try to get a copy. Brooklinehistory (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cheers, and thanks for having a good attitude. Binksternet (talk) 22:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 174.208.225.98 (talk) 01:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
"Too specific" isn't a real standard. Don't randomly delete content without attempting discussion please.
Hi. This is regarding your deletion of the section on the Sonoma County, California page. There is a section on the talk page for discussion, but you did not participate, either before, during, or after your deletion. Although it appears to be a common practice to delete the edits and additions of newcomers, it is still against Misplaced Pages rules and guidelines. Please follow the rules. If you're going to assert that content should be deleted, discuss it on the talk page. I did that, multiple times in fact. I was very patient. I was very careful. I spent a lot of time, and did a lot of work. "Too specific" is not a real standard, and I do intend to revert your edit. Magnolia did in fact consistently blatantly and deliberately violate Misplaced Pages's rules. The fact that there was an actual torture ring conducted by the Sonoma County government is in fact notable, whether or not people think it should be covered up is irrelevant. The fact that the person who organized the lawsuit against the County for the torture ring in 2015 was shot in the face with a crowd control "stingball" grenade is also notable. Again, please respect Misplaced Pages's rules. I don't know how much simpler I can put it. Don't delete content without participating in discussion. There has been a section on the talk page for more than 18 months. I put it there, to give people a forum to discuss the sections that I eventually added, after diligence, and patience. 18 month old invalid arguments do not weigh on consensus. Bad faith deletions do not weigh on consensus. "Too specific" isn't even applicable, firstly, and secondly it's plainly not a real standard. It's not valid. The content is notable, and is properly sourced. Merely throwing in your hat with Magnolia to cover up extremely heinous acts of brutality because you personally want the article to read like a tourist brochure does not weigh on consensus. You need a valid reason. The fact that you didn't participate in the talk page seems to implicate a lacking thereof. The page is about the County. The content relates to the County and it is not reasonably disputable that it should be in the article, if the article is to be considered objective. The article is not a tourist brochure.Isonomia01 (talk) 11:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
History of Chinese Americans
I'm not going to revert your edit, but I will argue that the text added to History of Chinese Americans is inappropriate. Beyond the simple problems of bolding of headers, meta-analysis like " While the page currently focuses on the legislative details, it is essential to explore the broader social and political dynamics that led to its passage." is a discussion of the page and should be on the talk page, not in the article. I also suspect that quite a lot of that text is a copyvio and it has some fairly serious WP:NPOV issues. Can you take a closer look? Thanks, Opolito (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll look. I guess we had an edit conflict, but I didn't get a notice saying so. I thought the person's contribution was very flawed and so I removed the worst bits. You thought it was very flawed and removed all of it. I might end up agreeing more with your solution. Binksternet (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
WTF DUDE????
Dude Why TF are u reverting my edits. The video clearly is credible as MrBeast shows proof himself and u literally did not look at it HiGuys69420 (talk) 21:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I did look at it, and what I saw was some clowning around in the studio. But the single actually has MrBeast credited on Hi Hat, so you got me there. Binksternet (talk) 22:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Flag Icons for 1920's Time Magazine Covers
Is the flag icons next to names on the list of time magazine articles not the correct format? I saw you also removed the flags for the other covers as well. Bicufo (talk) 12:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- As I understand MOS:FLAG and Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Icons, the flag should only be used if the person is coming to the list as a representative of their country, for instance athletes coming to the Olympics would show the flag of the country they are competing for. If a list of people is not associated with official representation of the country, then flags are not appropriate. Or if multiple politicians got together to discuss world affairs, they might be shown with the flag they represent. The Time magazine cover is not an athletic competition and it's not a convention of international politicians. Binksternet (talk) 15:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm going to need some evidence for this claim
I am not "evading" anything. Now surely for you to accuse me of block evasion, you must have some real strong evidence, chief. Let's have it. 166.181.250.216 (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sugar Bear/Archive which lists a ton of IPs in your range, and identical behavior. Binksternet (talk) 22:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Possible sock puppet of MariaJaydHicky
I don't know if this user is related to MariaJaydHicky, but it appears to be the case . TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 09:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see gaming the system of protection by gaining autoconfirmed status then immediately reverting a protected page, in this case the Nicki Minaj bio four days after first registering, showing in this edit that the user has been here before the hip hop article was moved from Hip hop music to Hip-hop which happened on December 2. The user account was created on December 17, so if they were a completely new user, they would only know the hyphenated hip-hop link, and they wouldn't try and correct it. Binksternet (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Your recent edits make no sense.
The other day, I added the punk rock categories to the pages for speed metal and death metal, but you removed them. After reading the pages for those genres, I saw no mention of hardcore punk, so I removed them from the Hardcore punk template, but you added them back. What is the meaning of that? 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C9F4:40DD:A5FB:6428 (talk) 22:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your genre edits have been based on looking around at other Misplaced Pages articles. I have pointed this problem out repeatedly to you, saying that other Misplaced Pages articles cannot be considered reliable per WP:USERG. Back in 2021 I advised you to read some musicology books instead, but you don't appear to be able or willing to do this. That's why I have a giant bug up my ass about your edits. Binksternet (talk) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- It was a lack of sources I was going on. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here you are again referring to Misplaced Pages pages as reliable sources. ARGHH. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Like I said, though, the pages for speed metal and death metal say nothing about hardcore punk, nor does the page for progressive rock say anything about electronic rock. I've seen you revert my edits for similar reasoning. 2601:C7:C280:14C0:C4D7:C6CC:2AA6:5B27 (talk) 16:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Various questions .. but for starters ..
Why would you revert the italicization of hazzan. And why do it with zero edit summary - do you really believe it to be vandalism? 184.153.21.19 (talk) 08:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- You added a borough right next to the note that says no boroughs. Binksternet (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in Sandy Koufax and Jay-Z and Michael Jordan and Joan Rivers? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --184.153.21.19 (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox_musical_artist#birth_place says to list the city. People have interpreted that to mean nothing below the city level, as some rappers were starting to list which neighborhood or even which apartment project. Local consensus at David Draiman was clearly and explicitly against listing the borough, so you would want to take the issue up with the frequent participants there. Binksternet (talk) 15:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why if you disagree with that would you revert all of the other - I think facially proper - edits? And why without an edit summary. I thought we are supposed to use an edit summary, in particular when reverting non-vandalism (and of course where it is confusing as most of the material you reverted you have not mentioned you had a problem with). And (please tell me .. I'm just unaware of it) is there a rule against reflecting someone was born in Brooklyn? As we do in Sandy Koufax and Jay-Z and Michael Jordan and Joan Rivers? Also, less important I imagine, what is the thinking (Brooklyn is as large as many cities and has a character perhaps different than some of the other NYC boroughs), and will you delete Brooklyn from those bios as well? Thank you. --184.153.21.19 (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)