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Hey mate, DRN looks a bit backlogged. Can you give me a hand clearing out some of the old requests?

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I would like to thank you. When you closed the you proposed: '' try restoring the material and if the user reverts then file a report at ANI for disputatious editing''. I followed your advice successfully. ] was alarmed once I have mentioned the ] , and suddenly started to reply and discuss the issue. ] (]) 19:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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:I saw your reply on my talk page. I wasn't asking for your help directly. I was asking if you knew the right person I might contact to get the help I requested. Thanks. ] (]) 16:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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in our case, discussion was pointless i do not think i can convince him and neither do i think he can convince me, so thats why discussion in poinless, i just need a third opinion is there any other way to get or what should i do?
:i do not think we can agree anyway ] (]) 18:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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== re: Sheldrake dispute == == Arbitration case request ==


You have been mentioned in a request for arbitration by ] - possibly they consider you involved in some way, possibly they just asked you for advice as someone uninvolved (it's not immediately clear to me). Please see ]. ] (]) 22:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
You read my mind concerning the Sheldrake dispute. I had read the dispute summary, and the linked talkpages (as well as other evidence the parties offered as part of the initial filing), and I concluded that this might have been a conduct dispute. I wasn't 100% sure, so that's why I asked the parties for evidence as to why this should be considered under DRN rules. It does seem a bit stupid if the parties then state in their discussions that this is a conduct dispute. Had you not closed it first, I would have pointed them in the direction of ANI etc anyway, so thanks for catching it before me.


== Rio Grande 223 case request declined ==
By the way, I'm thinking of mediating the "anti-Serb sentiment" dispute, but it looks too complex for me to hand alone (it gets a bit fiddly to keep track of more than three different users, especially when argument is so nuanced as this). Do you mind assisting in the workload on that dispute?
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TransporterMan, thanks for your third opinion on ]. I have not used this service before but I fondly imagined that you would stick around to discuss the dispute with us. Is this not generally the case? ] (]) 12:21, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


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But it ''did'' come to a standstill; he refuses to actually discuss anything. How is "I'm stealing your edits and selling them on black market." conducive to anything positive? If 3O isn't the place to take this guy, then ''where''? ] (]) 17:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


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::Man, I knew I was supposed to take him to RFC/U or ANI, but some of the mods told me it was better to go to 3O; bureaucracy, red tape, etc. Thanks a lot! ] (]) 16:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
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It feels like too petty of a dispute to justify opening an RFC but the talk page has failrd, and its just broken down into people not responding and making accusations of misconduct over nonsense on all sides.
Hey mate, I've sent you an email. Hope all is well with you. <font face="Verdana">] ] <sup>]</sup></font> 13:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


The crux of the issue is about the presentation of the language in the intro to the article, and the distinction between ] and arbitrary categories.
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Specifically, the current language presents the article subject as an objective, coherent, extant, natural category, but constructs it by specifying members rather than criteria.
Hey there, just wanted to apologize again if I spoke out of turn at DRN previously...in fact, I just added another comment to the discussion, trying to explain my understanding of why, at least in film articles, we don't include lists of differences unless there are sources that took note of them. I hope this will turn out to be productive rather than disruptive, much as my noting to the one editor that wikilinks are not reliable sources was intended to be.


The talk page details at length the problems with this logically, why it creates a form of lie by structure, and how regardless of the source, of the structure of the material is presented in a way that presents subjective external frameworks as natural facts, thats not NPOV and its out of the scope of any experts authority to disregard the rules of logic.
Regarding the idea of being an official volunteer at DRN, I have to admit that I prefer to (usually) keep my WP editing at a "casual" level. I don't mind participating in discussions when I feel I have something worthwhile to say, but I'm also not the most tactful editor around, and the idea of being a primary moderator during a DRN filing is rather intimidating to me. And by "casual" editing I mean I usually don't even log in during weekends because I don't want to spend too much time here. :) That said, if you feel I can be an asset to DRN, I'm willing to at least list myself with the proviso that I may not be an exceptionally active one, and am more likely to chime in on the rare occasion than take an active hand.


Woukd you be willing to review the discussion and help me with setting up the appropriate request for dispute resolution.
Lastly, as someone with a BA in English Writing, I wanted to say that I was quite impressed by your comments at the filing. I imagine providing opinions on these things, especially in a manner both diplomatic and (hopefully) clear, can be quite an effort, and I appreciate that you're willing to put your energies into doing so! Regards. ] (]) 19:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


No edits have yet occured, as, i elected to seek consesnsus before making a change ] (]) 11:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:Please, please, ''please'' join us and try your hand at DR. Folks with your level of experience (and clean block log) are desperately needed and your clear analysis would be ''immensely'' valuable. And thank you for helping at White Queen. Don't feel that you have to take on every, or even most, filings if you join up. Doing one every now and then on a topic which interests you is absolutely fine, as is just dropping in a comment every now and then. While the practice is that one volunteer leads a case, that's not written anywhere and it's fine for any volunteer to chime in in any case. We try not to disagree with one another or step on one another's toes, but even that occasionally happens. I hope you join us, and thanks again. Best regards, ] (]) 19:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::Clearly you've forgotten that the comment you just made will forever be enshrined in the historical record. On your head be it! :p ] (]) 19:54, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'm gonna echo TransporterMan...please try your hand out at DR. It's so awesome. In fact, I'm so passionate about dispute resolution I got a tattoo of the mediator barnstar. I don't expect you to do that of course though ^_^ <font face="Verdana">] ] <sup>]</sup></font> 11:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Well now, this thread just became worthless without pictures! :p ] (]) 12:42, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Bookku (talk) 17:32, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

The Third Option Request

I am personally glad that the request was reverted. I am not at all surprised to hear that it didn't comply with the instructions at the Third Opinion page as you put it, and had a discussion which involved more than two editors. In many ways, the issue really stemmed from edits on the Bob Morley page, where there continues to be an ongoing discussion. I'm not aware of a discussion on WP:RSN currently, though, just ones on Talk:Bob Morley and Talk:Arryn Zech. Historyday01 (talk) 18:01, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Whoops. The discussion is at WP:BLPN, not WP:RSN and I've appended a note to that effect to my earlier notice. Thanks, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:17, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Intervention in Dispute resolution

Hello Sir, kindly intervene in my dispute with user Ekdalian. The link of the DR page is https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/request. It is related to Baidya article. Thankyou. Anirban Kolkata (talk) 11:04, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Your request for dispute resolution should be made at Dispute Resolution Noticeboard after carefully reading and following the instructions there. Requests cannot be made from https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/request. I do not take private requests for dispute resolution. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:51, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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You have been mentioned in a request for arbitration by DTParker1000 - possibly they consider you involved in some way, possibly they just asked you for advice as someone uninvolved (it's not immediately clear to me). Please see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Rio Grande 223. Thryduulf (talk) 22:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Rio Grande 223 case request declined

The Rio Grande 223 case request has been declined. For the Arbitration Committee, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 21:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, im trying to use the resolution system, specifically for the Manosphere article.

It feels like too petty of a dispute to justify opening an RFC but the talk page has failrd, and its just broken down into people not responding and making accusations of misconduct over nonsense on all sides.

The crux of the issue is about the presentation of the language in the intro to the article, and the distinction between Natural (category theory) and arbitrary categories.

Specifically, the current language presents the article subject as an objective, coherent, extant, natural category, but constructs it by specifying members rather than criteria.

The talk page details at length the problems with this logically, why it creates a form of lie by structure, and how regardless of the source, of the structure of the material is presented in a way that presents subjective external frameworks as natural facts, thats not NPOV and its out of the scope of any experts authority to disregard the rules of logic.

Woukd you be willing to review the discussion and help me with setting up the appropriate request for dispute resolution.

No edits have yet occured, as, i elected to seek consesnsus before making a change Azeranth (talk) 11:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)