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			==Missing Data==
			1. Movie role - "Rick", surf shop owner in the film "Local Boys" released in 2002. Verified by watching the film and IMDb website cast and crew list. I'm watching the film while I write this email and I recognized him immediately.

			2. Verfied by IMDb. He does have more film roles than listed on your website. Your film listing for film credits is incomplete.

			3. Dick was well known for owning two tiger cubs that he drove around in his Mercedes and took them with him everywhere. See newspaper articles, photos in the OC Register newspaper (Santa Ana, California based newspaper. OCRegister.com) and ask people who knew him. You will have to use the OC Register morgue or ask the old reporters who covered Dick to verify since this was prior to the Internet and the stories are not online. Anyone who knew Dick during that time saw him with his tiger cubs. I don't know what became of the tigers. I never asked him.

			4. Dick was a private pilot and owned his own airplane that he kept at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, California. He kept his plane at (Eddie) Martin Aviation at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, California. He was a well known personality in the aviation community. His pilot's license can be verified with the FAA and pilots who knew him. Former employees of Martin Aviation can verify he kept his plane with them and brought his tiger cubs to the airport.

			5. 1996 he headlined the Doheny Blues Festival with The Monkees at Doheny Beach in Dana Point, California. His young son played the drums. You can verify with Omega Events, the organizers of the Doheny Blues Festival every year. I was there. I saw him play. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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			== Which amp? ==
			In the last paragraph of the article it mentions Dale used both the Dual Showman and the Showman amp. These are two different amps circuit-wise and their cabinets would be different also. While these differences are important to primarily guitar players and others into Fender amp minutia, it would be nice for clarity to know if he used both. It would be also nice to know which he currently uses. Thanks!] (]) 15:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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	== Birthplace ==
	Dick Dale was born in Boston, MA, not Lebanon. (His grandfather was born in the country of Lebanon). Some unregistered user (i.p. 24.121.161.249) keeps reverting it back to the WRONG info. I'm citing Dick Dale, reverter is citing bio that is Wrong. Cite the man, not what people say about him. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:57, 11 October 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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	Thats fine, I was just stating the facts. If Dick Dale wants to change his age, date of birth, place of birth, etc., thats up to him, a lot of musicians do that. Its up to Misplaced Pages if they want false information on their website. No problem. Dick Dale is now, all the sudden, born in Boston. I heard he was turning 60 this year too.
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	Has he ever said he was born in Lebanon? I've read lots of interviews with him, never heard that. I think it's something some pundit mistakenly said about him a long time ago and it got re-quoted. He's also not claiming he's 60, someone else must have said that and it got spread around. He doesn't give a lot of interviews these days, but a lot of people write about him. He did say he is 75, and born in Boston, and his grandfather was born in Lebanon, in the 2012 Anarchy Gumbo audio interview at the end of the external links listed on the article.
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	Can you cite an interview that's online where he himself says that he was born in Lebanon?
	] (]) 05:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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	I'd go with what he says, in his voice, now. Apparently the wrong (Lebanon) info was from a wrong statement early on, by someone else that got repeated. Do you have some agenda here? Your ONLY edits on Misplaced Pages are about Dick Dale's birthplace, and you're not even a registered user. I just have to ask why you are so committed to coming on here and changing this? I don't care where he was born, I actually think it would be more interesting if he were born in Lebanon than in Boston, but he says Boston, so why are you so committed to trying to challenge that? Do you know better than him where he was born? Seems odd to me. Arguing with an i.p. address reminds me of that article "The Great Failure of Misplaced Pages" by Jason Scott, an excellent and early contributor to Misplaced Pages, who said he gave up because he got sick of being a content defender rather than a content editor.
	] (]) 01:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 21:40, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
	I think you are well aware of the fact that Dick Dale was born in Lebanon. I also believe that you're more than familiar with the many interviews and reports that state his place of birth. Why are you so committed to changing his birthplace to Boston? Do YOU have an agenda? Sounds like you not only care about insisting that he was born in Boston, but now you're trying to gather information as to why somebody would be attempting to state his REAL place of birth. Hmmm, this not only sounds like an agenda, it sounds like somebody's on a mission to keep his real birthplace a secret. You keep your new Boston, the new home of the middle eastern guitar sound. Actually, I heard surfing originated in Boston, sun, surf , sand, and Booawstin! http://www.oldies.com/artist-view/Dick-Dale.html

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	The Dick Dale birtherism is back, new edit, can probably stand, "Lebanese American" instead of "American", I didn't revert it, but again, it's from an unregistered i.p. with no other edits. In in this 2012 interview:
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	Dick Dale was definitely born in Lebanon, no doubt about it. This needs to be changed and it needs to stop editing information on wikipedia, because he/she/it doesn't know the first thing about editing or gathering factual information. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:53, 9 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	*You will need to cite something more reliable than you did. Also, if you leave out the insults, you're more likely to be listened to. ] (]) 14:34, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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	===Sources for Beirut===
	*, page 58, by Barney Hoskyns. Dick Dale heard Arabic songs during his childhood in Beirut.
	*, page 61, by Jeff Kitts and Brad Tolinski. "As a child in Beirut, Lebanon, Dick Dale heard the sounds of Middle-Eastern stringed instruments..."
	*, page 50, by Julian Palacios. "The ragged quasi-Middle Eastern scales of surf-rocker Dick Dale, who as a child lived in Beirut..."
	*, page 258, by Matthew Allan Ides. "Dick Dale was born Richard Monsour in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1938. As a small child he moved with his family to Quincy, Massachusetts. During high school, his family moved again to El Segundo, California."
	*, page 45, by Ian Whitcomb. "Dale had been born in Beirut and he remembered an old Arabic melody called 'Miserlou.'"
	*, page 43. "Dick Dale. Birth: May 4, 1937, Beirut, Lebanon. Ethnicity: Lebanese-American."
	*, page 8, by Jack Wood. "Born Richard Monsour in Beirut, Lebanon, Dick Dale moved to Quincy, Massachusetts, with his family when he was a child."
	*, by Stephen K. Valdez. "Dale was born in Beirut, Lebanon and grew up in Quincy, Massachusetts; his family moved out to California in 1954 during Dale's senior year in high school."
	*, page 99, by Kirse Granat May. "Born Richard Monsour in Beirut, Lebanon, he grew up in Quincy, Massachusetts, before moving to El Segundo, California, in 1954 for his senior year of high school."
	*, page 101, by Loretta Hall. "Dick Dale. Lebanese-American musician. Born May 4, 1937, Beirut, Lebanon."
	*, page 97, by Robert J. Dalley. "'I was born in Beirut, Lebanon as Richard Monsour,' Dick explains. 'My family immigrated to the United States and settled in Quincy, Massachusetts, early on in my childhood.'" On the next page it says: "Dick's parents moved the family from Quincy, Massachusetts, to El Segundo, California, in 1954."

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	<s>I think the article should settle on Beirut, Lebanon, as the birthplace. Other places which have appeared in print might be mentioned in a minor fashion.</s> ] (]) 14:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	:Yes, it definitely should settle on Beirut, Lebanon, how many more sources do you need? Its obvious that Dale didn't like the Arabic reference to being born in Lebanon, and changed his birthplace to Boston. Thats fine if he feels that way, but this is supposed to be a source for facts, not for famous people wishing to change their birthplace, age, race, religion,etc. {{unsigned\|198.7.58.96}}

			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 10:10, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
	Looking more closely at the sources, it appears that the Boston birthplace correction has been accepted as the main version by the most prominent biographers. ] (]) 15:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	::That is one full bookshelf you got there, Bink. Thanks. Incidentally, I have no opinion one way or the other; my objection was to the commentary and the reference. I also don't much care for Dale's music and am not interested enough to dig into the subject (I know, it's blasphemy--don't care for surf); I will gladly leave the content in your capable hands. Maybe an explanatory footnote on the matter will be helpful. ] (]) 15:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

			== Horrible article on Dick Dale ==
	:::For those that do like surf music and know about the history of surf music and music in general, we would realize the Middle Eastern influence in Dick Dale's music and how the music of Beirut ended up coming out of a Fender Stratocaster. That is why Dales legitimate birthplace of Beirut is much more important than his desires to be remembered as an American born citizen. Hey Mr. Dale, you will be remembered as a great guitarist and very influential, so don't worry about where you were born, its a ok buddy.{{unsigned\|198.7.58.96}}
			This Article has so many inconsistencies and false facts that it is impossible to even begin. <br/>
			This paragraph has false, misleading and vague information: "Dale was born Richard Anthony Mansour in Boston, Massachusetts, on May 4, 1937. He is of Lebanese descent from his father and Polish-Belarusian descent from his mother. His grandparents farmed in Whitman, Massachusetts." <br/>
			Dick Dale was born in Berut, Lebanon according to all pre-internet archival information dating back to the 1960's. <br/>
			What grandparents farmed in Whitman, Massachusetts? What were their names? If they were his fathers parents then they would have farmed somewhere in Lebanon. If they were his mothers parents they would probably have been shoveling snow in Poland, not farming in Whitman.

			" It was in Southern California that he learned to surf at the age of 17. He soon learned to play the drums and the trumpet."<br/>
	===Boston birthplace===
			Yet previously Dick Dale was quoted in the article as saying ""I first was given a trumpet when I was in seventh grade" and
	*] writes on page 699 in his ''Encyclopedia of Popular Music'' that Dale was born in Boston, but had previously said he was born in Beirut. The book is published by Oxford University Press. ISBN 0195313739
			later quoted as saying "When I was 18 at the Santa Ana River Jetty is where I put my first board in the water that I ever got from Joe Quigg."<br/>
	*Music journalist Alan di Perna writes in his ''Guitar Masters: Intimate Portraits'' the following: "...the man the world knows as Dick Dale was born on the opposite coast, in South Boston, on May 4, 1937. Of mixed Lebanese, Polish, and Belarusian descent, his birth name is Richard Anthony Monsour." ISBN 1480329703
			The article just keeps disintegrating as it goes further along with some fake quotes and some paragraphs that look like quotes but are just opinions of some horrible editor.
	*Guitarist/author Julia Crowe quotes Dale in her book ''My First Guitar: Tales of True Love and Lost Chords from 70 Legendary Musicians''. "I was born in South Boston but I grew up in Quincy, Massachusetts, during the Depression. My father is of Lebanese heritage and my mother's parents came to the US from Poland when they were twenty years of age—White Russian gypsies. I used to stay with my mom's parents at their farm in Whitman, Massachusetts, during the summer, and I would pet the cows and chase the chickens and eat the food grown from Mother Earth."

			The article just goes on and on and on with a bunch of garbage. This article could be a couple paragraphs long.<br/>
	The kind of detail that Dale describes in talking to Julia Crowe is sufficient to flatten the idea that Dale grew up in Beirut. ] (]) 17:04, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
			It should read something like this:<br/>
			"Dick Dale is a surf guitarist born in 1937 in Berut Lebanon. He moved with his family to Southern California as a child and began playing guitar as a teenager. He developed his unique picking style combining middle eastern melodies and sounds inspired from his own surfing experience. Dick Dale found success with his surf music in 1962.<br/>
			Dick Dale is still playing shows as of 2018 and still plays many of the same songs he played in the early 1960's."<br/>
			Thats it folks, quit destroying wikipedia with all this fake garbage. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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	== Possible Errors ==
	This article has soooo many little mistakes from the normal story.
	* Dick Dale played a Stratocaster, but saying the Stratocaster's amp is confusing because the amp has nothing to do with the guitar.
	* He played loud and that is why the amps caught on fire.
	* I've heard that the reverb was developed for Dick's voice, but never have heard that it was actually built into a microphone itself. They got the reverb from Hammond organs. Nothing new, they were just the first to use it for guitars.
	* Misirlou is a traditional Greek song. ] 07:30, 17 August 2004 (UTC)

			::Dick Dale himself says in this interview that he was born in the USA: https://biptunia.com/?p=5291 ] (]) 18:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
	:I thought ''Misirlou'' was a belly dance standard all over the ]? however page says the dance ''is based on the Greek Syrtos'', so you probably are sort of right.
	:why not ] and fix the mistakes yourself? reagards, ] 23:46, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
	::Also, the JBL D130 was introduced in 1948 and Bob Crooks used it in his first ] amplifiers years before anyone heard of Dick Dale. The whole amplifier section of "Career" is pretty bad. ] (]) 23:00, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
	If you can find well sourced references to correct what is "bad" then do so. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:47, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

			== Death rumors ==
	O.K. How about Harvey Gerst? Harvey's alive (and at my last conversation in 2009) and well in Texas and he is the JBL employee most directly responsible for the design modifications of the JBL-D130F, as well as other JBL loudspeakers intended for musical instrument reproduction. He was there, and he says Dick Dale had NOTHING to do with the design of the JBL D-130F, or the JBL musical instrument speaker product line. Is that good enough? DIck Dale is a great self-promoter, but he had no direct input on the design of the JBL D-130F. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			I've semi-protected the page until the death reports are confirmed by reliable sources. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 19:33, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

			:I've unprotected; there's a decent source now. Someone better at references now could please stick in https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dick-dale-surf-guitar-king-dead-obituary-809294/ thanks! ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 21:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
	==This man discovered that a guitar could scream==
	Dick Dale is much more than surf rock. Years before Hendrix and Duane Allman, he discovered the raunchy power of the electric guitar, the paradigmatic American sound of the second half of the 20th century. Listen to him play with Stevie Ray Vaughn. Heavy metal, electric blues, the sound of the Jefferson Airplane, more: I say it all began in Dick Dale's head. And to top it off, people: he plays like that at age 71!!] (]) 02:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

	==~~Del-Tone~~ ~~Line~~ Up==		== How old? ==
			Dick Dale was actually 81 when he died. He would have been 82, if he had lived until his birthday. ] (]) 21:10, 17 March 2019 (UTC) Editrite!
	I removed the names of the Del-Tones from the article because it was not really correct. There were frequent line up changes in the Del-Tones and I haven't been able to find a source that lists who the original Del-Tones were. Ron Eglit didn't start playing with Dick until 1979, so he was definitely not one of them. ] (]) 20:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	I saw Dick Dale and the Del Tones play in 1963. Try an old album cover for verification. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:47, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

			== First instrument? ==
			In the 'Early life' section it says Dale began playing piano, immediately followed by a quote in which he says he was "given a trumpet in 7th grade" and the article then starts talking about him playing ukulele in kindergarten! So, which WAS his first instrument? ] (]) 23:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

			:I've started cleaning up the article by removing the blockquotes, but haven't got as far as checking for factual accuracy yet. The whole article might as well be rewritten from the ground up. ] ] ] 11:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
	==Dale was in the movies==
	In 1987 for example he made a cameo in the MGM Movie "Back to the Beach" with Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello. The appearances by Dick Dale and his Del Tones were also in the 1963 Frankie and Annette movie "Beach Party". <ref>www.mgm.com</ref> ] (]) 23:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
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			== Parents ==
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			Did he have parents and how come "Due to his Lebanese heritage"? ] (]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 09:12, 18 March 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	==Source==
	This is a good source to work from I don't have time now but may get bak to it later.
	http://www.billboard.com/artist/dick-dale/bio/4396#/artist/dick-dale/bio/4396
	<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:32, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

			:I believe most, if not all, human beings have parents. ] ] ] 11:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
	Del-Tones: reinsert:http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dick+Dale+%26+His+Del-Tones
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1. Movie role - "Rick", surf shop owner in the film "Local Boys" released in 2002. Verified by watching the film and IMDb website cast and crew list. I'm watching the film while I write this email and I recognized him immediately.

2. Verfied by IMDb. He does have more film roles than listed on your website. Your film listing for film credits is incomplete.

3. Dick was well known for owning two tiger cubs that he drove around in his Mercedes and took them with him everywhere. See newspaper articles, photos in the OC Register newspaper (Santa Ana, California based newspaper. OCRegister.com) and ask people who knew him. You will have to use the OC Register morgue or ask the old reporters who covered Dick to verify since this was prior to the Internet and the stories are not online. Anyone who knew Dick during that time saw him with his tiger cubs. I don't know what became of the tigers. I never asked him.

4. Dick was a private pilot and owned his own airplane that he kept at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, California. He kept his plane at (Eddie) Martin Aviation at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, California. He was a well known personality in the aviation community. His pilot's license can be verified with the FAA and pilots who knew him. Former employees of Martin Aviation can verify he kept his plane with them and brought his tiger cubs to the airport.

5. 1996 he headlined the Doheny Blues Festival with The Monkees at Doheny Beach in Dana Point, California. His young son played the drums. You can verify with Omega Events, the organizers of the Doheny Blues Festival every year. I was there. I saw him play. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anja Dee (talk • contribs) 00:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

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Which amp?

In the last paragraph of the article it mentions Dale used both the Dual Showman and the Showman amp. These are two different amps circuit-wise and their cabinets would be different also. While these differences are important to primarily guitar players and others into Fender amp minutia, it would be nice for clarity to know if he used both. It would be also nice to know which he currently uses. Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 15:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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Horrible article on Dick Dale

This Article has so many inconsistencies and false facts that it is impossible to even begin.
This paragraph has false, misleading and vague information: "Dale was born Richard Anthony Mansour in Boston, Massachusetts, on May 4, 1937. He is of Lebanese descent from his father and Polish-Belarusian descent from his mother. His grandparents farmed in Whitman, Massachusetts."
Dick Dale was born in Berut, Lebanon according to all pre-internet archival information dating back to the 1960's.
What grandparents farmed in Whitman, Massachusetts? What were their names? If they were his fathers parents then they would have farmed somewhere in Lebanon. If they were his mothers parents they would probably have been shoveling snow in Poland, not farming in Whitman.

" It was in Southern California that he learned to surf at the age of 17. He soon learned to play the drums and the trumpet."
Yet previously Dick Dale was quoted in the article as saying ""I first was given a trumpet when I was in seventh grade" and later quoted as saying "When I was 18 at the Santa Ana River Jetty is where I put my first board in the water that I ever got from Joe Quigg."
The article just keeps disintegrating as it goes further along with some fake quotes and some paragraphs that look like quotes but are just opinions of some horrible editor.

The article just goes on and on and on with a bunch of garbage. This article could be a couple paragraphs long.
It should read something like this:
"Dick Dale is a surf guitarist born in 1937 in Berut Lebanon. He moved with his family to Southern California as a child and began playing guitar as a teenager. He developed his unique picking style combining middle eastern melodies and sounds inspired from his own surfing experience. Dick Dale found success with his surf music in 1962.
Dick Dale is still playing shows as of 2018 and still plays many of the same songs he played in the early 1960's."
Thats it folks, quit destroying wikipedia with all this fake garbage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.239.55.219 (talk) 07:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

As Beyond My Ken once put it, "Start with an article that looks like shit and reads like it was written by a high-school dropout. A hundred edits later, take another look at the article – and it still looks and reads like shit. That's because the intervening edits did useful things like replace m-dashes with n-dashes, capitalized the first letters of template names, added interwiki links, vandalized and reverted the vandalism, made sure that bold text was being used as laid down in the manual of style, removed extraneous blank lines and miscellaneous other actions which did not, in any fundamental way, improve the article. This is the problem with eventualism: it assumes that, somewhere along the way, someone's actually going to fix the real problems and not just niggle around the edges." Ritchie333 11:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Dick Dale himself says in this interview that he was born in the USA: https://biptunia.com/?p=5291 ElizaBarrington (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Death rumors

I've semi-protected the page until the death reports are confirmed by reliable sources. --jpgordon 19:33, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

I've unprotected; there's a decent source now. Someone better at references now could please stick in https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dick-dale-surf-guitar-king-dead-obituary-809294/ thanks! --jpgordon 21:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

How old?

Dick Dale was actually 81 when he died. He would have been 82, if he had lived until his birthday. 203.196.41.161 (talk) 21:10, 17 March 2019 (UTC) Editrite!

First instrument?

In the 'Early life' section it says Dale began playing piano, immediately followed by a quote in which he says he was "given a trumpet in 7th grade" and the article then starts talking about him playing ukulele in kindergarten! So, which WAS his first instrument? JezGrove (talk) 23:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

I've started cleaning up the article by removing the blockquotes, but haven't got as far as checking for factual accuracy yet. The whole article might as well be rewritten from the ground up. Ritchie333 11:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Parents

Did he have parents and how come "Due to his Lebanese heritage"? 80.151.9.187 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:12, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I believe most, if not all, human beings have parents. Ritchie333 11:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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