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| == Help with User == | |||
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| ==Note to Posters== | |||
| I am having a bit of trouble with an article ]. Today I spent a good portion of the morning fixing grammar, adding sources, even expanding on certain issues that were left hanging. The changes can be seen . The problem I am having is a user ], has accused me of attempting to "rewrite history" ], a comment he didnt sign but can be seen he left it via the history page. He even stated "You two really screwed up the talkpage format" when I have only posted on that page under a topic header I created to get feedback on the POV issues in the article, note I did not tag the article as POV, and was not the only one to say its POV. I am not really as hurt by the reversions but its that the user does not seem willing to compromise or even discuss anything that involved changing the intro he once wrote. He even went as far as stating the POV issues was discussed and linked to however the first sentence there states "..that the article needs a lot of work but I think the major problem isn't POV." I am close to my wits end as I feel there can be compromises made and I have offered one to have it shot down for removing all reasons the US went to war, then have the next shot down for adding any reason other then WMD's. Is there a policy on wikipedia that states users should attempt to come to a resolution or compromise or middle ground of sorts? He seems to refuse to budge at all. I even went as far as to put my new paragraphs on hold and instead just edit the existing one to add that there were other reasons the US went to war and cited the official resolution, ] instead went and removed that as being POV also, as he states "WMD's are the ] for War in Iraq. I tried pointing out that ] states "grievances section of a formal Declaration of War." and then posted a link to the resolution authorizing war, but he seems to be not posting on the talk page anymore after this. What is a user to do next? --] 01:35, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Do not restart discussions here, all discussions moved to archive are considered closed and will be ignored. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 17:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] removed from your user page == | |||
| :Hello, ]. I'll get back to you in a second; I have to look at all the material.] <sub>|</sub><sup>|</sup><sub>|</sub> ] 01:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| <div style="padding:5px; background-color:#E1F1DE"> An image or media file, ], has been removed from your userpage or user talk page because it was licensed as ]. Misplaced Pages's ] states that ''fair use images should only be used in the article namespace''. As a result, although users are often given a great amount of latitude in the type of content that is allowed on their user pages, it is requested that you abide by this policy. Feel free, however, to add images and media files licensed under other terms. For more information, see ] and an ] on the removal of fair use images. Thank you for your cooperation. | |||
| ::Again, Hello. I must say it is a bit unfair to, after one revert of your material, assume bad faith of him. Granted, he is being a tad bit unpleasant on the talk page... It was, however, generally a bad idea to rerevert back to your version before a concensus was achieved on the talk page. No harm done, obviously. I would wait it out and ] If you cannot reach an agreement, ] is your answer, not <nowiki>{{helpme}}</nowiki>. Good luck!] <sub>|</sub><sup>|</sup><sub>|</sub> ] 01:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| <!-- Template:Fuir --></div> -- ''']''' 12:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Oh, and he might not be responding on the talk page because he is not able to access Misplaced Pages at the time (sleep, dinner, vacation...)] <sub>|</sub><sup>|</sup><sub>|</sub> ] 01:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== ''Deja vu'' all over again == | ||
| It's baaaaack! ] ... your 2¢ would be appreciated. --] 16:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I am having a bit of trouble with a user who is attempting to remove the "part of" section in an article saying the name is propaganda. The problem I have though is they keep starting polls/surveys to justify there view. However many of the people who vote do not state facts to support their views or never reply to challenges to their information. I have read ] which states that polls on the talk page are not binding. However the users starting them keep claiming they are, and that everyone has to go along with the vote, regardless of the fact that the vote stands at only 9-5. | |||
| :Thank you for notifying me, I have since given my opinion. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 16:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Strawpolls == | |||
| I have recently started contributing to Misplaced Pages and am worried that "facts" are based on gathering enough votes, which is contrary to what the Straw Polls section states. Can someone please tell me if polls are actually the measure for determining what does into an article and ] is incorrect. Also what action can I take to stop this from being stated as fact if it is not. Thank You --] 15:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| On ] you mentioned that you were going to set up some straw polls. I've taken the liberty of devising my own version, an I dea I had even before I read of your intentions. I'll only put them up if you don't object otherwise I'll defer to your version of straw polls and delete what I had written. Let me know. Thanks, ] 20:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Generally speaking, if you ] for a given section to verify something as fact, it won't be removed. At the same point, any facts added need to adhere to the ]. It is hard to make generalization without knowing the context, but when the facts are in dispute, community consensus is the fall-back to decide what should be included (or excluded) in a given article. Unfortunately, that means opinion becomes an issue. No, straw polls are not binding, and they can even be entirely reversed if new sources come to light, but generally the onus is on the editor to back up his case with references and convince the community. Anyway, I don't think I was overly helpful, so I'll leave your helpme tag up, maybe someone more experienced than I can give you a better insight. -] 15:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I do not mind at all. I was a bit busy at work and did not get around to it, so feel free. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 20:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==War on Terrorism template== | |||
| == Trouble With Vandalism? == | |||
| I take it your comment on my talk page was aimed at the user currently trying to change the template, not me?! I've advised the user to check the talk page already, he doesn't seem bothered. ] 09:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I am having trouble with reverting an article on ]. The person keeps logging in from a non user account with just an IP and changing the article accusing ] of participating in Bait & Switch. I read the guidlines for warnings, but since the persons IP keeps changing it seems futile. The user is logging in from Oklahoma from what the IP lookup told me, however the IP is dynamic. If any guidance can be given on how to stop this, it will be greatly appreciated. I have been talking with a user on the discussion section and we have been asking the user to step forward and verify the claims or to atleast give a reference etc. Noone has come forward but the article is constantly reverted to add the unfounded Bait & Switch charges. | |||
| :Correct. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 09:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| --] 12:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Probably better if you use his talk page for discussions relating to him in the future as he won't necessarily be watching my talk page. ] 09:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Hello, if the problem gets really serious, you can turn to ] to request page protection. However, before that, please talk to the user concerned, or use one of the methods at ], which can usually put a stop to these matters. If you need any more help, please feel free to ask again. Cheers, ]]] 12:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == |
== War on Terrorism template == | ||
| Seeing that you changed your mind about your comments on the ] poll, I thought you might want to know how to use this function of Misplaced Pages. Strike-through is considered the traditional way on Misplaced Pages to retract statements. More information can be found here: - ] 06:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Why is it included in every terror incident or plot? ] 10:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Thank you, I wasn't sure the proper way to handle, thanks for the information. --] 22:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thats how templates work, they are included on the articles mentioned within them and related articles. Please familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages more before mass edits as it seems you are a new user. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 10:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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==Barnstar== | ||
| Many thanks. Will this guy ''never'' give it a rest? Good working with you. ] 12:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Perhaps you can try to debate facts instead of attempting to bully people with your political opinions. Stop attempting to personally demean me to get across your uncited, unsupported personal opinion.--] 14:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :There is consensus you are wrong, and it is not a political opinion we are discussing but how to present things neutrally. I find it rude that people like Rangeley revert 25 times on the same issue, even after they see there is a consensus against them, and the discussion page is flooded with the same stupid stuff over and over: "The US government said so, thus it is so", and "the Cold War is an analogy". ] 18:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::If you cared to read the talk section you would see the concensus is filled with people who are presenting no facts. This is an encyclopedia, political bickering is not the goal. Even furthur, your problem with Rangeley does not warrant your rudeness toward me. Perhaps you should read the articles you attempt to use in your defense. --] 19:03, 8 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Allegations of terrorism by the United States == | |||
| == ] == | |||
| I would like you to review your decision, everyone except Self-Described Seabhcán says the edit should take place and that he should have never made the edit being asked to be reverted in the first place. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 03:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| My view is that ] is the lynch pin on the info box issue. If his concerns are satisfied, I'd say the issue is resolved. ] 19:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :You're right! Sorry. I've made the requeted edits. Self-Described Seabhcán (in my opinion) did not act properly. —<span style="font: small-caps 14px times; color: red;">] (])</span> 04:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VI - August 2006 == | |||
| == Rapturous Fun == | |||
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| I see Añoranza has come here too and talked to you. Frankly, I feel that at this time, there are too many 'Añoranza' like people on here to successfully reach any sort of agreement, atleast on any terms that are encyclopedic. He has resorted to trying to defame me, and has even gone so far as to say I am personally attacking others. As such things havent remotely happened, it should come as no surprise that such a person can also persist in his view on an issue like without anything logical behind it. The fact that all he gets out of what has been said is 'the cold war is an analogy' is dissapointing, but it appears to be the fact of life. Perhaps in a month or two, in the summer time, it would be wiser to pick the issue up again. Right now though, I dont think we have enough open minded people, who wont, in the words of Steven Colbert, still beleive on Wednesday what they beleived Monday, regardless of what happened Tuesday. When it is brought up again, we can lay it out on a silver platter rather then spread it out over a series of talk pages, and then in a series of responses in various sections of these pages. With a bit of organization, sort of like the facts you laid out in the latest section, I think it can actually get done. For now though, we can let them enjoy their little ] moment. ] 21:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *I think I will have to agree with you, it is sad that I make a list of facts regarding why, and they cannot even make a list of facts supporting their reasoning. The saddest part is the Cold War anology is wrong. Bernard Baruch was the first person to use the term doing so once while making a speech, and the other time before the Senate on matters about the Soviets, he was the US representative to the United Nations Atomic Energy Commission at the time. It was later used by the writer ... I thought this was suppose to be an encyclopedia not a popularity contest, its almost making me feel as though my time on wikipedia can be seen to be wasted. As an experiment perhaps I should have the name of a article changed by simple majority. Cant we call in a mediator or ask for admin decission? --] 22:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| I dont know about a mediator, but admins could perhaps assist the next time around in the running of it. ] 04:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Rather than remove Mofomojo's comment on Iraq War yourself, perhaps a report to ] is in order. Just include in the request that if they deem it a personal attack they also remove the comment from the talk page. ] is a tricky guideline and often creates more angst than it solves. --] 19:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I edited out the curses, however you make a good point, if its readded I will just report it. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 19:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| :If you're looking for an unbiased, historical approach towards OIF, good luck. I had to battle to have the article mention the kidnapping and murder of international aid workers by the insurgents underneath the "Human Rights Abuses" section. Some say its "Pro-war POV." ] 02:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| This case has closed and the final decision has been published at the link above. | |||
| To summarise, Añoranza is banned for one week and the principals in this matter are encouraged to enter into good faith negotiations regarding use of propagandistic operational codenames for which there are neutral alternative names in common use. | |||
| Yea, its unfortunate, but oh well. Thats Misplaced Pages for you. ] 01:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| For the Arbitration Committee. --] 21:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I am kinda new here but are there reccomendations for what I should do regarding Mr. Tibbs. I spent a day adding new content, removing bad links and even readding his own sources. He went and reverted the entire days work stating its POV. He did not post anything on the talk page about any of the specific points either, I thought that was standard? Can it be POV to state a U.S General is retired? Oddly enough he even removed his own sources by reverting my entire work. What is Wikipolicy regarding this? --] 01:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Heh, over two months after the case opened and almost two months after his last edit he is banned for a week. ~'''] (])''' 22:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Might be time for a mediator. ]. ] 22:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Who is he now? ] 07:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Since you're kinda new here, you might consider looking around some User pages to see how others handle edits. Kind of ignore the particular topic; just observe the behavior and patterns and use/abuse of Wiki policies. Another approach is to pick a somewhat controversial topic (especially a political one) that you are already familiar with outside of wikipedia, use the search box to find the article, the look at the article's Talk page to see how the article evolved. Political person pages are particularly interesting. Hope these ideas provide you some insight. | |||
| ==Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America== | |||
| Here's a jump start: | |||
| I asked for unprotection -- it's now free. ] 03:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| - http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Merecat | |||
| ==Lancet and statistic== | |||
| - http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Thewolfstar | |||
| Thanks for the note on my discussion page. Actually, I have no opinion on whether or not the substance of the material is a good idea to include in the article. I just reacted to what I saw as the stated reason for it being removed in the preceding edit, and it did not appear to be a good reason to remove the statement from the article. To me the statement that had been deleted from the article did not really appear to be "meaningless", and since I think Lancet is generally recognized as a high-quality source that is sufficiently worthy of appearing as a citation in Misplaced Pages, I went ahead and reverted. If the reason that was offered for removing the statistic had been different, I would not have reverted it. Also I was acting without knowledge of what others thought about the subject matter. Feel free to edit as you see appropriate. —] 19:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| - (to add: User BigDaddy) http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Rictonilpog/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Political_fallout_from_seperation_issues | |||
| ==WOT== | |||
| - http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ajdz | |||
| Oops. I missed that. Thanks for the explanation. I undid that change. --] 20:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Tompkins Square Park Police Riot== | |||
| Incidently, you can be a taxpayer, but Wiki policies can indefinitely block you from editing. | |||
| Can you please point out to me where you find editorializing in this paragraph: | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Misplaced Pages:Indefinitely_blocked_users/May_2006 | |||
| <blockquote>It was August 1988 when all the city beaches were awash in medical waste in a record heatwave that a riot broke out in Tompkins Square Park. The police attempted to enforce a newly-passed 1:00 a.m. curfew to end drunken streetpunk rock parties that had raged through the night, almost every night. Instead, bystanders, artists, residents, homeless people and political activists were caught up in the police action that took place August 6th. In an editorial entitled Yes, a Police Riot, The New York Times commended Commissioner Benjamin Ward and the New York Police Department for their candor in a report that made clear what images already confirmed for many citizens: the NYPD were responsible for inciting a riot.</blockquote> | |||
| Has anyone done a cost comparison analysis of just buying a bunch of encyclopedia sets from the publishers and shipping them to Africa? | |||
| There is not one thing in there that is not a fact or observation from The New York Times. Not one. It reads cleaner, and gets the most information in as few words as possible. Please explain to me your reasons for changing it. Thank you. --] 17:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Sincerely, An Observer. | |||
| :Please see the edit summary. Its written more like a newspaper article or book then an encyclopedia entry. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 17:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks == | |||
| '''That doesn't tell me''' ''how'' it does that, you are just rephrasing a contention I disagree with. Please tell me how, or point me to a policy or style guide that I can learn from. Thanks. --] 17:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for supporting me. ] 01:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Your intro was rambling to be polite. The day is exluded, the event is suppose to be the first sentence and bolded, what you bolded was not even the article title name. The mentioning of medical waste is not relevant to the rest of the article, its simply attempting to paint an atmosphere which is more proper in an article or story then an encyclopedia. The emphasis put on the repetition on the "every night" mentioning is more in line with a story then even an article or encyclopedia. The intro needs more work as it seems to say that the targetted group was not there at all, stating "instead", however that is false even by the supplied sources. If it wasnt for the final sentence stating NYPD, you wouldnt even know the event took place in New York City. So I changed the introduction to be more informative and less editorializing. Again I like you writing style, however its not appropriate. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 17:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Fight to keep my userpages == | |||
| == Dispute resolution == | |||
| Could you please try and get more people to vote keep?... ] 04:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| They are right, the ] is not the place for it. You could try the mediation that's in progress, or some other part of ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == 3RR violation == | |||
| ]You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the ] in regard to the article ]. Other users in violation have also been blocked. The timing of this block is coincidental, and does not represent an endorsement of the current article revision. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future on the article's talk page (]). <!-- Template:3RR3 --> ] (]) 08:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == 911 conspiracy == | |||
| == Plame == | |||
| I put that link on the articles talk page, as per request in your edit summary. Cheers, ] 19:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| This needs to get out more. Edit section to get wiki version. I only know of Valerie Plame biography and Aluminum Tubes. It doesn't belong in the "Plame Affair" article since it's not related to uranium. I am not sure of any other articles. | |||
| :Thank you, I think it was a good compromise as its mainly relevant to the articles history, not as much the group directly. --] 19:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Quite so. Also please see ] re my opinions about the questions appearing at the start of the article. ] 19:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| David Corn of ''The Nation'' revealed that Plame worked for the CIA on determining the use of ] purchased by Iraq.<ref name=corn>{{cite news | url=http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060918/corn | title=What Valerie Plame Really Did at the CIA | author=David Corn | publisher=The Nation (web only) | date=September 5, 2006}}</ref>. All CIA analysts prior to the Iraq invasion believed that Iraq was trying to acquire ] and that these tubes could be used in a centrifuge for nuclear enrichment. <ref name=CIAreport1></ref><ref name=CIAreport2></ref> | |||
| --] 06:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == June Initiative == | |||
| I think now would be a good time to begin drafting the consensus search for the War on Terrorism issue. I started a page on it under my namespace, ]. ] 20:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == AN/I == | |||
| Please be ]. Using the 'petulant children' comment to make a ] in edit is both a policy violation and poor behavior. Regards, ] (]) 16:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I disagree, since its not uncivil to state someone is acting as they are acting, at least the user in question believes that. As for WP:POINT, its not disruption because the user does not believe its disruptive to talk frankyl and use such terms on that page in particular. Thank you for your comments though. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 16:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I ask you remove your warning thingy as the concensus on the page is that its not a WP:CIVIL violation and perfectly permissable when discussing editors in a frank manner, such a manner that is permitted on that page specifically. You can read the posts directly above mine to verify the communities opinions on the matter. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 16:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Iraq War== | |||
| :] warning #2. Please don't pee on me and tell me it's raining. - ] (]) 16:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I think you addressed my concerns nicely. The other reasons(democracy, HR, terrorism, etc) mentioned by Bush/Blair were incorporated into that paragraph we were editing. The WMD issue begins the para and those other issues are included as well. | |||
| ::I have responded on your talk page. Its not raining here btw, is it raining there? --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 17:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Zerofaults, I have to side with Chairboy here. You see, the argument put forth is that it is not incivil for ''admins'' to say things like that. As you are not an admin your actions are not protected under that view... and 'on my side' even the admins aren't allowed to act that way. So please do stop. Regardless of whether we have an equitable system or a biased one it is not appropriate. --] 17:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Also, I hope you saw my point on France. While FR did state publicly that they would veto, that statement is not the sole reason US/UK did not use the UN. I felt it was France-bashing to illustrate that point without explaining other possible vetos, or even a possibly non-majority UNSecCl vote against force. | |||
| ::Its ok, it was a WP:POINT violation done on purpose, but at least now if Chariboy says something uncivil I know I can issue him a WP:CIVIL warning as he does not believe frank talk is permitted on that page and finds thnigs like petulant child to be offensive. Also I cannot be given 2 warnings for a single posting. I would like one removed please. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 17:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Finally, I added an explainer on the Coalition para, it needed a little transition and explanation as to why a coalition was even necessary. Might even be helpful to explain in a small section just how this whole coalition got formed.] 17:56, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Remove 'em both. The 'you cannot remove warnings' thing is heavily disputed and invalid in the opinion of many. You got the warning. You acknowledged it. You, apparently, aren't going to do it again (don't)... purpose of warning accomplished. --] 17:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree about the France item, I had not read it over after writing it to see how it may have been seen to suggest it was the only reason. I will however readd the sentence in a new structure by attempting to avoid mentioning it as a reason the resolution would have failed if ever put forth, but highliting their statement of vetoing any resolution under any circumstances. --] 18:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks, here's how == | |||
| :Paste this text onto a user page or a talk page: <nowiki>{{subst:smile3|Zer0faults}}</nowiki> | |||
| :Do not copy from edit mode, but do copy from screen in display mode - exactly as shown here. | |||
| :<span style="border: 1px solid #000000; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF">→ ] - ] ←</span> 06:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Correct, I will not do it again, thank you. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 18:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Please stop your reverts == | |||
| == Wikistalking == | |||
| As you were already blocked once you should be more careful than reverting such a considerable part of an article based on a lame claim about a tiny fraction of the changes. ] 15:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Please do not place comments on my talk page. Your rude language in previous dealing show me you are not here in good faith. If you have something to discuss regarding an article, use the articles talk page. Unexplained reverts are frowned upon. --] 15:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I do not assume good faith in your case from the very beginning seeing your massive number of reverts and biased edits. ] 16:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::] - ] --] 16:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Zer0defaults, often citing instances and linking to diffs are worth more than just linking civil, agf, and other policies. Provide evidence to your claims, even if it is just a one on one instance. From an outsider's POV, you're the one being rude.] <sub>|</sub><sup>|</sup><sub>|</sub> ] 18:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I do not even know what you are talking about. She came to my talk page to tell me she isnt assuming good faith, my only reply is wikipedias page on assuming good faith. Also I do not consider "based on a lame claim about a tiny fraction of the changes" as being very civil. Would you talk to a colleage at work that way? --] 19:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Please, I did not mean to come accross as hostile :D. All I meant was that events do not build up to the point where rudeness is acceptable. Regardless of past experience with a person, the same ''faith'' should be assumed to a certain point. What she was doing was giving you advice, in a terse but not rude manner. You're response was a demand to not place comments on your talk page, which I believe you do not have the ability to demand, along with calling her rude, with some, ''for lack of a better word'', hipocracy about unexplained reverts are frowned upon. When she responded with an admittedly terse statement involving past experience, you rehashed by simply linking AGF along with Civil. Linking civil ''at all'' is rude in an instance where civility is not questioned, and responding with a link alone gives the tone of superiority as in; ''I know the rules. You are breaking the rules. Here are the rules, incase you don't know.'' Admittedly rude. | |||
| ::::::In response to your question about how I came upon your talk page, I was the one who responded to your Iraq War Helpme tag up top. I watch everyone's talk page who I help out.] <sub>|</sub><sup>|</sup><sub>|</sub> ] 01:30, 31 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| C'mon, wikistalking is pretty poor form. - ] (]) 19:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: ] == | |||
| :] Please try to assume good faith in your fellow editors, actually you already said you don't so I am not sure what to even respond to at this point. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 19:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I find it fortuitous that you've just happened to end up on various pages I've edited, including ] where you put in response to my ID request. That, and you were editing ] within a few minutes of an edit I did, and so on. This is just a polite request, I hope you'll take it in the spirit with which it was sent. - ] (]) 20:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I am not sure what you are requesting. Are you asking me not to edit pages on Oregon? Or am I just not allowed to add sources to material on Oregon? --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 20:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Honestly I would think an admin would be happy about someone adding sources to an article they edited as well. --<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 11pt">]</span> ] 20:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Please review ]. I'll cite a few examples for your review: , , and . I believe you are attempting (clumsily) to harass me because of our recent disagreements. I'd like to ask you again politely to stop. - ] (]) 04:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks. I appreciate it. —] 17:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Again I have improved two articles you paricipate on, I wouldnt call that harrassment, please stop threatening me and AGF. You are coming here making wild accusations and its disturbing and uncalled for. I ask you refer to another admin as you have shown a bias now coming here yet again to accuse me of things and are now stating yourself this issue of me improving articles you have edited is "harrassment" --] 08:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Can we agree on this title? == | |||
| ==Signature== | |||
| *] if you and Stone agree, I can ask the mediator to change the title today, and we can move on to more important issues. ] (]) 15:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| My signature has been update to show my support for a fellow editor, he represents why check user should not be used as a witch hunt tool or means of intimidating people into non participation. When checks and balances are not enforced we have a grave state of affairs. --] ] 12:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I completely agree, makes for an article that contain lots of interesting content, removes allegations and seems encyclopedic. May get a bit large, but all together, nice work Travb. --] 23:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm following up on the talk message you left me a few days ago: I've reviewed some of the comments you've made on this topic. I'd suggest not forcing a confrontation in support of a blocked user or a blocked sockpuppet. Your best bet is to speak your piece as you did, then let it go. This would include getting rid of that other user's name from your signature - that signature is a really bad idea. That signature could get you tagged as a trouble maker. To the degree that I've heard the comments on the subject of "sockpuppet" directed to me, I've responded with a firm denial. And after doing that, have put it out of my mind. I am reasonably sure that my edits to do not warrant any allegations or inquiries against me and as far as I am concerned, the subject sockpuppet accusations is closed. I'd recommend that you retreat from this issue and do the same. On another point, please keep me posted about articles where we've both edited if my voice on a talk page is needed. But let's be sure to keep a strong commitment to ]. Just because something might make sense to you or me, does not mean that others will agree. Oh, and did you see news report? <span style="border: 1px solid #000000; text-align:center; background: #FFFFFF">→ ] - ] ←</span> 16:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank Lisa. Now if we can get Stone on board, I can request the mediator change the name ASAP. Appreciate your time ;-) ] (]) 02:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I appreciate your comment and that is why I made my post, its not to enflame anyone but simply to state I stand against people using check user requests and accusations as a means of intimidation. If an admin tells me its disruptive and can actually explain why then I will consider changing it. So far 4 people have been accused of being sock puppets, 4 people that all went against certain editors posts. For the time being I will change it by removing the editors name, but replace it with |sockpuppet| instead and a link here. --] ] 19:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ===How about this title? === | |||
| ==Merecat== | |||
| Per your concern: | |||
| I am very interested why you feel the need to defend this disruptive editor and proven sock of Rex. You are making serious allegations against me that are blatantly false. Please correct the accusations where you '''falsely''' assert that I started the RFCU against other editors. Since this is your second misrepresentation of nmy actions I ask you to refrain (and remove from existing posts) using my name to erroneously suggest I am doing things that I am not. I don't like what appears to become a smear campagne.]<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 23:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I think when 3 users get together to accuse everyone who opposes their view and revert their work, accuse them of being sock puppets etc, its a better indication of a smear campaign. --] ] 23:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Please provide evidence of that accusation or retract what looks like a ]. Second, you still need to retract the false allegation I filed a RFCU!!!!]<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 23:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: ] There you are adding 2 users to the RFCU ... Good bye Nomen --] ] 23:40, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I am also very interested in you being very interested in anyone who supports merecat. --] ] 23:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Where did O file the initial RFCU, not my support but the '''initial!!!!''' You are well aware I responded to the slanderous comments by Merecat using IP addresses,]<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 23:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :You are not their supporting but adding IP's. You should be aware of your own actions they are documented there. You are filing two names to be added to the existing one. I don't think I need to explain this to you, the link says it all. I have proved my point. Good bye Nescio --] ] 00:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| "Just so people are aware US Covert Operations would include domestic by its title, so it will include technically hundreds of articles COINTEL PRO etc FBI operations. It may end up being an article that then needs to be split up. --User:Zer0faults 03:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC) " | |||
| You are very good. Misrepresenting the facts, leaving out relevant information. Indeed a worhty sockpuppet.]<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 00:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| How about: ] Signed: ] (]) 03:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I dare you to file a real RFCU on me so I can laugh at the results. Do yo know what it will say? I am a sockpuppet of Mr. Tibbs since we are on the same ISP same city, same burough even. Another reason why RFCU is not accurate. If you come here again calling me sockpuppet I will take appropriate actions, see ] and ]. YOu like pasting the links, how about you follow them. I have every right to support a user here, or to support a statement asking for a RFCU. Perhaps a RFCU on me is your best bet if you have accusations to make. As for misrepresenting facts, we cleared that up with the link it seems. Good bye Nomen. --] ] 00:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :That works perfectly, the other wording was not as clear as that. --] 09:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I am awaiting approval from Stone, then we can move forward. Nice to be on the same side. Best wishes and happy editing. ] (]) 13:30, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==] up for deletion== | |||
| First of all, after you are calling yourself ''Merecat'' and a ''sockpuppet'' I fail to see the PA when I refer to that. Second, you still have to correct you fallacious accusation against me for which you apologies are accepted. I have not accused any account of being a sockpuppet and you know that. All I did was notice the curious edits by anons and based on the similarity in arguments, and knowledge, I made the observation that the anons are very likely Merecat. Again, stay with the facts.]<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 00:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hey, I followed some links and ended up at your user page, where I saw that you are a fan of the 17 State Street building. The article is currently up for deletion, so if you're interested, ]! ] 23:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Zarqawi== | |||
| :Can you please post proof I said I was merecat? Don't think so. Good bye Nomen please follow WP:CIVIL and WP:PA. Oddly enough if you read just above you, or click the merecat link, you would see the statement on the signature. This is why people should do research before stating things. When people put "talk" links at the end of their name, they are not calling themselves "talk". Once again file the RFCU so I can laugh at the results, goodbye Nomen, not everyone you disagree with is Merecat, he isnt the bogeyman. This is all starting to seem like that Iraq page where you selectively read things. I have shown you the link where you are initiating a RFCU against 2 IP's good bye Nomen, I ask you refrain from spamming my talk page with your personal attacks in the form of accusations. --] ] 00:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| The information roadmap was about propaganda in general that was used in Iraq bleeding over into the domestic audience, not any specific propaganda campaigns. This was a concern that was brought up in the Washington Post article about the Zarqawi propaganda program, so the two are related. I'm not saying there actually was a Zarqawi Psyop program (otherwise known as a propaganda campaign), but if they was, it would be covered under the roadmap.--] 14:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Can I see your source stating it is covered under that Roadmap, and that the Roadmap was ever initiated into policy? --] 14:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Also the roadmap was not about propaganda bleeding into the US, please read it, I have, in its entirety. While it speaks of a policy the roadmap itself makes clear that targetting civilians is against the rules. As per Synthesis of Published Material, its a violation of WP:OR to say: | |||
| I never said you were Meract, I merely pointed out that your use of the sig implies a lot. Second, after still not retracting your slandserous accusations, you again fail to notice the IP filing RFCU against me which led to my suspicion and the subsequent response by me. Smoke and mirrors Merecat.:) (In case you missed it, this is a joke)]<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 01:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Zarqawi PSYOP program is about a PSYOP program. Information Roadmap is about PSYOP programs, so Information Roadmap is about Zarqawi PSYOP Program, the Operations Roadmap mentioned Smith Mundt so Zarqawi is being linked to Smith Mundt. Smith-Mundt is about targetting domestic citizens so Zarqawi program must be targetting domestic citizens. Unfortunatly the Informations Roadmap specifically says dont target them, it also does not mention Zarqawi PSYOP Program. WaPo also says the program did not target US citizens. --] 15:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Your joke is offensive, I ask you either cease posting accusations and slander on this talk page or apologize. You cannot state offensive things and then simply say "I was joking" when the environment is clearly not one where a joke was made. I will nor reiterate my point about the RFCU, you can click a link, it speaks for itself. --] ] 01:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==You were right== | |||
| Since you object to my noting that you identify yourself with your hero, I would kindly ask you to stop following me around, and by doing so to stop commenting in discussions you are not a part of. Or, are you suggesting you did take part in the debates disrupted by your hero you feel the need to respond to?<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><font color="blue"><i><small>]</small></i></font></sup> 13:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Are you psychic or something dude? --] 23:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Goodbye Nescio, your constant accusations and fishing have disrupted my editing for the day, and I am choosing to not respond to you until you become civil and stop make accusatory statements, stop fishing for information to support your outlandish claims etc. You will no longer be responded to on this talk page as you have been disruptive to me and my work. --] ] 13:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| As long as you stop following me around and refrain from commenting on issues you know nothing about it is fine by me. Thank you for the cooperative attitude.<font color="green"> ]</font><sup><i><font color="blue"><small>]</small></font></i></sup> 13:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == I agree! == | |||
| :Did you know that Nescio has previously been caught red handed using sockpuppets and trying to blame his sockpuppet edits on Merecat? See this ] 17:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| If you don't mind, I'm putting the GTI picture on my page. Oh, and it says "Wolkswagen" a few times on the section. I'm not fixing it since I don't feel I have the right to. Cheers! '''''<font color="#109618"><big>]</span></big></font>''''' - <sup>]</sup> 03:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :I see that you like architecture. Have you seen the plans for the ]? ] 20:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Normally I only enjoy building with a glass fascade but the style of that building is amazing, mainly in its original shaping. I see on the article its going through so that will be wonderful for Chicago. Too bad Fordham, the company putting it up doesn't have an email address, I would love to add more details to that article. --] ] 20:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| == Fab Five Freddy == | |||
| ==Posting pics== | |||
| You must be careful about posting pictures about Volkswagen GTI Mark V's and the like, or you will have certain nameless editors looking at them at 2400dpi magnifying lenses to determine if the car is in Texas or elsewhere? : ) If you think you've got troubles with POV-promoters, take a look at ]. ] 00:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Not sure what kind of links you are expecting, the an is about 10+ years older then the picture now and as such finding a link to a press pack from so long ago would be quite difficult. --] 18:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Yeah I can see the manifying glasses coming out soon. I just took a peak at that article, didn't really get to read it through because I am editing an article at the moment. I added it to my watch list though, kinda of a long title for an article. --] ] 00:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :If you can't find any reference to the press pack it came from, how do you know for sure it comes from a prees pack? Where did you got this image from? --] 18:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yikes! Same subject. ] 00:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I got the image when I used to write for AllHipHop.Com, it was used to promote him appearing at the Smithsonian. --] 18:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I made some more edits to that article but I feel now like I am stripping it, it just needs better sources and less editorializing. I hope the user who seems to be in opposition to you can produce sources as I rather see better articles then less articles on Misplaced Pages, I am sure you feel the same. I have left a message on their userpage basically explaining my position to them and hoping the can provide a reliable source as the ones there currently lack identifying marks of a memo or email, such as letterhead or email headers. --] ] 00:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::You found a free replacement for this unfree image! Great work!! Congratulations! I swear I tried to find a barnstar to award you, but there's none specific for this kind of action. This is a pitty. Your attitude was exemplar. --] 19:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thanks. I'm taking a break from the page for awhile in the hopes that tempers will cool. ] 00:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I been having such a horrible day here at Misplaced Pages, that actually went miles to cheer me up, so thank you as well. --] 19:16, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I don't intend to take the bait offered by the latest person to offer the article author his support. I suspect they are socks. I'm staying away from that article for awhile, as the author gets angry at almost any challenge to verifiability and reliability that I make. If the article doesn't get verified, I will eventually nominate it for Afd, but not today. ] 19:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Response to 9-11 true comment== | |||
| Hello | |||
| I agree that the Afghanistan War was a response to 9-11, but one need not change every mention of the War in Afghanistan - a simply addition after United State war in Afghanistan, would be appropriate in the lead sentence to indicate this. I feel it is too messy the other way. --] 01:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I see what you are saying and agree, perhaps finding a way to work it in instead of removing both mentions would have been a more steady measure. I will however not revert it as I am working on a dif article at the moment. Thank you for your quick response. --] ] 01:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Democrat Party article== | |||
| Hello Z. Misplaced Pages is considering deleting the ] article. I hope you will weigh in on the topic here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Democrat_Party_(United_States) I believe the article should be deleted, as the term isn't worthy of an article in an encyclopedia. ] 23:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Comments removed to prevent further trolling. --] ] 23:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I just read and archived your comments. ] (]) 17:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Is there any particular reason you've decided to log my uncharacteristic and unfortunate outburst for all posterity? ] ] 17:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I see you're committed to an incomplete record; I suppose that's your prerogative. Nevertheless, I'd appreciate an answer to my question. ] ] 03:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Its the start of a RfC I will be putting it back, deleting subpages that have negative information about you is quite unforutunate but will also go into the RfC I guess. Also please do not edit subpage simply because you do not like them. I went out of the way to make sure it didnt link to you so as to not disturb you as that was the arguement with subpages in kellymartins case of being disruptive. I will simply leave the information here now. | |||
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| This is a new board for people interested in conservative issues, if you wish to join, just add yourself to ]--] 20:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you but no, I am not a conservative. --]<s>]</s> 21:03, 13 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==PAGN and MAP== | |||
| Merge? I would not oppose. --] <sup>(])</sup> 13:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Do not restart discussions here, all discussions moved to archive are considered closed and will be ignored. Thank you for your cooperation. --zero faults 17:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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Deja vu all over again
It's baaaaack! Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of famous members of Mensa (2nd nomination) ... your 2¢ would be appreciated. --Dennette 16:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for notifying me, I have since given my opinion. --zero faults 16:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Strawpolls
On Talk:Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America you mentioned that you were going to set up some straw polls. I've taken the liberty of devising my own version, an I dea I had even before I read of your intentions. I'll only put them up if you don't object otherwise I'll defer to your version of straw polls and delete what I had written. Let me know. Thanks, Kalsermar 20:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- I do not mind at all. I was a bit busy at work and did not get around to it, so feel free. --zero faults 20:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
War on Terrorism template
I take it your comment on my talk page was aimed at the user currently trying to change the template, not me?! I've advised the user to check the talk page already, he doesn't seem bothered. Budgiekiller 09:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Correct. --zero faults 09:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Probably better if you use his talk page for discussions relating to him in the future as he won't necessarily be watching my talk page. Budgiekiller 09:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
War on Terrorism template
Why is it included in every terror incident or plot? The end is near 10:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thats how templates work, they are included on the articles mentioned within them and related articles. Please familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages more before mass edits as it seems you are a new user. --zero faults 10:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Barnstar
Many thanks. Will this guy never give it a rest? Good working with you. Budgiekiller 12:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Allegations of terrorism by the United States
I would like you to review your decision, everyone except Self-Described Seabhcán says the edit should take place and that he should have never made the edit being asked to be reverted in the first place. --zero faults 03:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- You're right! Sorry. I've made the requeted edits. Self-Described Seabhcán (in my opinion) did not act properly. —Mets501 (talk) 04:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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WP:PAIN
Rather than remove Mofomojo's comment on Iraq War yourself, perhaps a report to WP:PAIN is in order. Just include in the request that if they deem it a personal attack they also remove the comment from the talk page. WP:RPA is a tricky guideline and often creates more angst than it solves. --Bobblehead 19:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- I edited out the curses, however you make a good point, if its readded I will just report it. --zero faults 19:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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This case has closed and the final decision has been published at the link above.
To summarise, Añoranza is banned for one week and the principals in this matter are encouraged to enter into good faith negotiations regarding use of propagandistic operational codenames for which there are neutral alternative names in common use.
For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 21:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Heh, over two months after the case opened and almost two months after his last edit he is banned for a week. ~Rangeley (talk) 22:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Who is he now? Morton devonshire 07:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America
I asked for unprotection -- it's now free. Morton devonshire 03:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Lancet and statistic
Thanks for the note on my discussion page. Actually, I have no opinion on whether or not the substance of the material is a good idea to include in the article. I just reacted to what I saw as the stated reason for it being removed in the preceding edit, and it did not appear to be a good reason to remove the statement from the article. To me the statement that had been deleted from the article did not really appear to be "meaningless", and since I think Lancet is generally recognized as a high-quality source that is sufficiently worthy of appearing as a citation in Misplaced Pages, I went ahead and reverted. If the reason that was offered for removing the statistic had been different, I would not have reverted it. Also I was acting without knowledge of what others thought about the subject matter. Feel free to edit as you see appropriate. —Wookipedian 19:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
WOT
Oops. I missed that. Thanks for the explanation. I undid that change. --Bobblehead 20:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
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Tompkins Square Park Police Riot
Can you please point out to me where you find editorializing in this paragraph:
It was August 1988 when all the city beaches were awash in medical waste in a record heatwave that a riot broke out in Tompkins Square Park. The police attempted to enforce a newly-passed 1:00 a.m. curfew to end drunken streetpunk rock parties that had raged through the night, almost every night. Instead, bystanders, artists, residents, homeless people and political activists were caught up in the police action that took place August 6th. In an editorial entitled Yes, a Police Riot, The New York Times commended Commissioner Benjamin Ward and the New York Police Department for their candor in a report that made clear what images already confirmed for many citizens: the NYPD were responsible for inciting a riot.
There is not one thing in there that is not a fact or observation from The New York Times. Not one. It reads cleaner, and gets the most information in as few words as possible. Please explain to me your reasons for changing it. Thank you. --DavidShankBone 17:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- Please see the edit summary. Its written more like a newspaper article or book then an encyclopedia entry. --zero faults 17:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
That doesn't tell me how it does that, you are just rephrasing a contention I disagree with. Please tell me how, or point me to a policy or style guide that I can learn from. Thanks. --DavidShankBone 17:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- Your intro was rambling to be polite. The day is exluded, the event is suppose to be the first sentence and bolded, what you bolded was not even the article title name. The mentioning of medical waste is not relevant to the rest of the article, its simply attempting to paint an atmosphere which is more proper in an article or story then an encyclopedia. The emphasis put on the repetition on the "every night" mentioning is more in line with a story then even an article or encyclopedia. The intro needs more work as it seems to say that the targetted group was not there at all, stating "instead", however that is false even by the supplied sources. If it wasnt for the final sentence stating NYPD, you wouldnt even know the event took place in New York City. So I changed the introduction to be more informative and less editorializing. Again I like you writing style, however its not appropriate. --zero faults 17:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Dispute resolution
They are right, the notice board is not the place for it. You could try the mediation that's in progress, or some other part of dispute resolution. Tom Harrison 14:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Plame
This needs to get out more. Edit section to get wiki version. I only know of Valerie Plame biography and Aluminum Tubes. It doesn't belong in the "Plame Affair" article since it's not related to uranium. I am not sure of any other articles.
David Corn of The Nation revealed that Plame worked for the CIA on determining the use of Aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq.. All CIA analysts prior to the Iraq invasion believed that Iraq was trying to acquire nuclear weapons and that these tubes could be used in a centrifuge for nuclear enrichment.
--Tbeatty 06:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
AN/I
Please be WP:CIVIL. Using the 'petulant children' comment to make a WP:POINT in this edit is both a policy violation and poor behavior. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree, since its not uncivil to state someone is acting as they are acting, at least the user in question believes that. As for WP:POINT, its not disruption because the user does not believe its disruptive to talk frankyl and use such terms on that page in particular. Thank you for your comments though. --zero faults 16:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I ask you remove your warning thingy as the concensus on the page is that its not a WP:CIVIL violation and perfectly permissable when discussing editors in a frank manner, such a manner that is permitted on that page specifically. You can read the posts directly above mine to verify the communities opinions on the matter. --zero faults 16:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- WP:POINT warning #2. Please don't pee on me and tell me it's raining. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 16:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- I have responded on your talk page. Its not raining here btw, is it raining there? --zero faults 17:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Zerofaults, I have to side with Chairboy here. You see, the argument put forth is that it is not incivil for admins to say things like that. As you are not an admin your actions are not protected under that view... and 'on my side' even the admins aren't allowed to act that way. So please do stop. Regardless of whether we have an equitable system or a biased one it is not appropriate. --CBD 17:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Its ok, it was a WP:POINT violation done on purpose, but at least now if Chariboy says something uncivil I know I can issue him a WP:CIVIL warning as he does not believe frank talk is permitted on that page and finds thnigs like petulant child to be offensive. Also I cannot be given 2 warnings for a single posting. I would like one removed please. --zero faults 17:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Remove 'em both. The 'you cannot remove warnings' thing is heavily disputed and invalid in the opinion of many. You got the warning. You acknowledged it. You, apparently, aren't going to do it again (don't)... purpose of warning accomplished. --CBD 17:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Correct, I will not do it again, thank you. --zero faults 18:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikistalking
C'mon, wikistalking is pretty poor form. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- WP:AGF Please try to assume good faith in your fellow editors, actually you already said you don't so I am not sure what to even respond to at this point. --zero faults 19:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- I find it fortuitous that you've just happened to end up on various pages I've edited, including User talk:Fact check where you put an editorial in response to my ID request. That, and you were editing Skinner Butte within a few minutes of an edit I did, and so on. This is just a polite request, I hope you'll take it in the spirit with which it was sent. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you are requesting. Are you asking me not to edit pages on Oregon? Or am I just not allowed to add sources to material on Oregon? --zero faults 20:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Honestly I would think an admin would be happy about someone adding sources to an article they edited as well. --zero faults 20:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- I find it fortuitous that you've just happened to end up on various pages I've edited, including User talk:Fact check where you put an editorial in response to my ID request. That, and you were editing Skinner Butte within a few minutes of an edit I did, and so on. This is just a polite request, I hope you'll take it in the spirit with which it was sent. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Please review Misplaced Pages:Harassment. I'll cite a few examples for your review: , , and . I believe you are attempting (clumsily) to harass me because of our recent disagreements. I'd like to ask you again politely to stop. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 04:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- Again I have improved two articles you paricipate on, I wouldnt call that harrassment, please stop threatening me and AGF. You are coming here making wild accusations and its disturbing and uncalled for. I ask you refer to another admin as you have shown a bias now coming here yet again to accuse me of things and are now stating yourself this issue of me improving articles you have edited is "harrassment" --User:Zer0faults 08:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Can we agree on this title?
- United States covert actions if you and Stone agree, I can ask the mediator to change the title today, and we can move on to more important issues. Travb (talk) 15:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- I completely agree, makes for an article that contain lots of interesting content, removes allegations and seems encyclopedic. May get a bit large, but all together, nice work Travb. --User:Zer0faults 23:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thank Lisa. Now if we can get Stone on board, I can request the mediator change the name ASAP. Appreciate your time ;-) Travb (talk) 02:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
How about this title?
Per your concern:
"Just so people are aware US Covert Operations would include domestic by its title, so it will include technically hundreds of articles COINTEL PRO etc FBI operations. It may end up being an article that then needs to be split up. --User:Zer0faults 03:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC) "
How about: United States international covert operations Signed: Travb (talk) 03:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- That works perfectly, the other wording was not as clear as that. --User:Zer0faults 09:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am awaiting approval from Stone, then we can move forward. Nice to be on the same side. Best wishes and happy editing. Travb (talk) 13:30, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
17 State Street up for deletion
Hey, I followed some links and ended up at your user page, where I saw that you are a fan of the 17 State Street building. The article is currently up for deletion, so if you're interested, come opine! Zagalejo 23:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Zarqawi
The information roadmap was about propaganda in general that was used in Iraq bleeding over into the domestic audience, not any specific propaganda campaigns. This was a concern that was brought up in the Washington Post article about the Zarqawi propaganda program, so the two are related. I'm not saying there actually was a Zarqawi Psyop program (otherwise known as a propaganda campaign), but if they was, it would be covered under the roadmap.--Bobblehead 14:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Can I see your source stating it is covered under that Roadmap, and that the Roadmap was ever initiated into policy? --User:Zer0faults 14:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Also the roadmap was not about propaganda bleeding into the US, please read it, I have, in its entirety. While it speaks of a policy the roadmap itself makes clear that targetting civilians is against the rules. As per Synthesis of Published Material, its a violation of WP:OR to say:
Zarqawi PSYOP program is about a PSYOP program. Information Roadmap is about PSYOP programs, so Information Roadmap is about Zarqawi PSYOP Program, the Operations Roadmap mentioned Smith Mundt so Zarqawi is being linked to Smith Mundt. Smith-Mundt is about targetting domestic citizens so Zarqawi program must be targetting domestic citizens. Unfortunatly the Informations Roadmap specifically says dont target them, it also does not mention Zarqawi PSYOP Program. WaPo also says the program did not target US citizens. --User:Zer0faults 15:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
You were right
Are you psychic or something dude? --Pussy Galore 23:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree!
If you don't mind, I'm putting the GTI picture on my page. Oh, and it says "Wolkswagen" a few times on the section. I'm not fixing it since I don't feel I have the right to. Cheers! The RSJ - 03:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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Fab Five Freddy
Not sure what kind of links you are expecting, the an is about 10+ years older then the picture now and as such finding a link to a press pack from so long ago would be quite difficult. --User:Zer0faults 18:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- If you can't find any reference to the press pack it came from, how do you know for sure it comes from a prees pack? Where did you got this image from? --Abu Badali 18:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- I got the image when I used to write for AllHipHop.Com, it was used to promote him appearing at the Smithsonian. --User:Zer0faults 18:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- You found a free replacement for this unfree image! Great work!! Congratulations! I swear I tried to find a barnstar to award you, but there's none specific for this kind of action. This is a pitty. Your attitude was exemplar. --Abu Badali 19:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- I been having such a horrible day here at Misplaced Pages, that actually went miles to cheer me up, so thank you as well. --User:Zer0faults 19:16, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- You found a free replacement for this unfree image! Great work!! Congratulations! I swear I tried to find a barnstar to award you, but there's none specific for this kind of action. This is a pitty. Your attitude was exemplar. --Abu Badali 19:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- I got the image when I used to write for AllHipHop.Com, it was used to promote him appearing at the Smithsonian. --User:Zer0faults 18:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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I just read and archived your comments. Travb (talk) 17:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
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Is there any particular reason you've decided to log my uncharacteristic and unfortunate outburst for all posterity? Mackensen (talk) 17:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- I see you're committed to an incomplete record; I suppose that's your prerogative. Nevertheless, I'd appreciate an answer to my question. Mackensen (talk) 03:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Its the start of a RfC I will be putting it back, deleting subpages that have negative information about you is quite unforutunate but will also go into the RfC I guess. Also please do not edit subpage simply because you do not like them. I went out of the way to make sure it didnt link to you so as to not disturb you as that was the arguement with subpages in kellymartins case of being disruptive. I will simply leave the information here now.
AN/I
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I hope you have a good day. --User:Zer0faults 10:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Mackensen didn't delete the page. He asked for a second opinion, and another Admin deleted it. . Thatcher131 14:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Note that as soon as you said this Zerofaults went and changed his opinion on your RFA from support to oppose. How transparent and vindictive. --Cyde Weys 14:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, he changed his vote before my remark above. Thatcher131 17:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Note that as soon as you said this Zerofaults went and changed his opinion on your RFA from support to oppose. How transparent and vindictive. --Cyde Weys 14:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
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After welcoming you to Misplaced Pages in May, I was checking back to see how things went. I saw the notice about your arbitration on the Signpost newsletter.
Since you're no longer new here, I don't know whether to (a) admire your ability to last as long as you did or (b) to think you're a fool to voluntarily take the increased stress resulting from your article editing choices. To tell the wikitruth, I had just observed Merecat get permabanned, allegedly as a Rex sockpuppet, only because he befriended Maggie. She got permabanned for having the bad luck to cross some heavy POV pushers when they were simply in a bad mood for other reasons. Ajdz left on his own accord; at least he and Merecat didn't suffer the stress that you and Maggie did.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Zer0faults Zer0faults has abandoned that account and opened a new account NuclearUmpf (talk • contribs) . Thatcher131 16:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
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PAGN and MAP
Merge? I would not oppose. --evrik 13:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- I merged the gallery into PAGN and created the redirect. Thanks for your reply. The only other user who edited that article had not been on Misplaced Pages for some time. --Nuclear
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- Sorry about that, I guess I jumped the gun, seen only two people had edited the article. I am actually looking to build the MAP article next week possibly after I add more to the PAGN article, then I will remove the redirect I guess. --Nuclear
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