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	First I hope that Julie's interests work out and that her sister and her husband can resolve their differences. But Julie needs to call Delilah! Not wiki her! Also I have patched up the article significantly. If it still needs improvement, please do whatever is necessery to do that. --] 02:34, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

	Call Delilah...don't make your requests here! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 08:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

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	This article says that Delilah is airing a live show on KBIG, entirely different from the syndicated program. Is this true, or is it just a modified version of the hot AC version? I'm wondering because the two shows overlap two hours time, and there are several syndicated versions.] 12:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)		This article says that Delilah is airing a live show on KBIG, entirely different from the syndicated program. Is this true, or is it just a modified version of the hot AC version? I'm wondering because the two shows overlap two hours time, and there are several syndicated versions.] 12:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

			--] (]) 21:17, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Alexclarkerfff

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	Any reason for not using her real name or is her real name used with an incorrect (not real name)?] (]) 08:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)		Any reason for not using her real name or is her real name used with an incorrect (not real name)?] (]) 08:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

			It does seem odd that the name given in the Bloomberg article cited here as Reference 1, https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-delilah/ , identifies her by a name that does not appear in the current state of this article. That same name can be found on another page (written for young readers) with explanatory background: http://thecharacternetwork.org/the-delilah-rene-luke-story/ . It was also used in fairly recent NPR coverage: http://www.npr.org/2016/08/16/490174019/the-familiar-voice-of-delilah-a-nighttime-companion-on-the-radio The apparently original surname (maiden name?) also appeared here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/nickrkm/youre-listening-to-delilah?utm_term=.jdGLrNZXp#.qyO1bj9Xr and here: http://archive.kitsapsun.com/news/local/yes-that-delilah-lives-in-south-kitsap-ep-422270030-358677691.html The disappearing surname in this case raises a question of the status of the name that now (since when?) occurs in the surname position, "Rene." Did that name originate as a middle name? Her birth name, I concede, is arguably trivial, but the story of how her stage name evolved strikes me as of likely interest to many readers.

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	] → {{no redirect\|Delilah (radio personality)}} – or {{no redirect\|Delilah (radio host)}}, though the former phrase seems more common on Misplaced Pages in general. Although ] is generally a good idea, it's not usually applied to mononymous people. See ] for a recent example of this. Checking the low hits from {{Google\|"delilah rene" -wikipedia}} confirms that this is not her ]. ] (]) 19:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)		] → {{no redirect\|Delilah (radio personality)}} – or {{no redirect\|Delilah (radio host)}}, though the former phrase seems more common on Misplaced Pages in general. Although ] is generally a good idea, it's not usually applied to mononymous people. See ] for a recent example of this. Checking the low hits from {{Google\|"delilah rene" -wikipedia}} confirms that this is not her ]. <small>--'''Relisted'''. --]]<small>]</small> 13:26, 4 November 2013 (UTC)</small><small>--'''Relisted'''.  — ] (]) 10:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)</small> ] (]) 19:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

	*'''Oppose''' ], '''neutral''' on ]. "Personality" is nearly as bad a disambiguator as "entertainer" is, so moving to a version of that would be a step in the wrong direction. While I agree that she's not most commonly known as "Delilah Rene", avoiding artificial disambiguation for people is useful, so I don't have a strong preference on the "radio host" disambiguator. ] (]) 20:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)		*'''Oppose''' ], '''neutral''' on ]. "Personality" is nearly as bad a disambiguator as "entertainer" is, so moving to a version of that would be a step in the wrong direction. While I agree that she's not most commonly known as "Delilah Rene", avoiding artificial disambiguation for people is useful, so I don't have a strong preference on the "radio host" disambiguator. ] (]) 20:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
	*'''Oppose''' ], '''neutral''' on ]. pretty much verbatim as ]. I don't think she's really in the Madonna category either as she ''has'' used both maiden and married names in some talk shows. ] (]) 03:03, 10 October 2013 (UTC)		*'''Oppose''' ], '''neutral''' on ]. pretty much verbatim as ]. I don't think she's really in the Madonna category either as she ''has'' used both maiden and married names in some talk shows. ] (]) 03:03, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
	*'''Oppose''' - Surname is fine as is. Regardless of sources, why must everybody call a lesser-known radio host/personality simply "Delilah" is beyond me. Maybe we can ignore ] and ] in favor of common sense? There is ], a more notable figure. --] (]) 17:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)		*'''Oppose''' - Surname is fine as is. Regardless of sources, why must everybody call a lesser-known radio host/personality simply "Delilah" is beyond me. Maybe we can ignore ] and ] in favor of common sense? There is ], a more notable figure. --] (]) 17:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
			*'''Support''' ] - better disambiguator. Honestly, I did not know Delilah's last name (until now). In fact, this entire discussion resulted in me finding out ]'s last name. That alone seems to fit the ] criterion for this discussion. In fact, having the last name "Rene" appear in the article name seems to distract readers from realizing who this person is when they find the article; what if Madonna's article appeared as ] instead? Without a picture, I would bit somewhat confused; similar concept here, but unfortunately, since most people have no idea what any radio talk show host looks like, the name (of the article) should be immediately recognizable. ] (]) 05:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
			*'''Support''' ]. While the last name is good ], a cursory look suggests it's rarely used in what sources are available: 57 Google News archives hits for compared to 3,870 for , the bulk of which appear to be relevant. If someone has evidence that the last name is better known than it seems to be, I may switch per NATURALDIS, but until then I think a parenthetical will be more recognizable to readers.--] ]/] 20:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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			== Birth Year? ==

			The article states she was born in 1960, yet the article is categorized in 1958 births. Which is correct? ] (]) 04:49, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

			== When did the show begin? ==

			I think it would of intererest to know when the ''Delilah'' show first aired. Also, what is her personal and professional background? Where did she grow up? What school (s) did she attend? What did do for a living before the show debuted?--] (]) 05:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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I have a question here, and no I don't need any requests.

This article says that Delilah is airing a live show on KBIG, entirely different from the syndicated program. Is this true, or is it just a modified version of the hot AC version? I'm wondering because the two shows overlap two hours time, and there are several syndicated versions.JMyrleFuller 12:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

--Alexclarkerfff (talk) 21:17, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Alexclarkerfff

Article

Currently this article is dominated by the radio show info, which though is what makes her notable tends to give undue weight to a portion of her life. More personal info is needed, and much of the other info needs to be moved to an article on the radio program (if the program passes WP:NOTE). Aboutmovies (talk) 04:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Quite frankly, the radio show is what she is almost exclusively known for (pardon the preposition at the end of the sentence). It's listed under her name since there is already an unrelated story at the Delilah article. JMyrleFuller (talk) 14:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Children

Her official bio on the point hope website says seven of her ten children are adopted, not eight. I made the change in the article - but noticed after I made them that I wasn't logged in. Pixiestix (talk) 20:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Contradictory info; issues overall

Firstly, in the personal section there is contradictory information marital status, which needs to get fixed. However, this article in general is poor; it's mainly focused on PR-style material (I wouldn't be surprised if this article's seen a few biased edits by Delilah fans or reps, but don't construe that as an accusation), it's poorly sourced, and it has little focus.

Line 49 was poorly sourced, violated NPOV twice, and highly selectively quoted the original web source upon which it was based. Thus, it was not deserving of the space or attention it received (undue weight). I removed it.

Real Name?

The article includes a (not real name) however she's introduced in the article as Delilah. If Delilah was a stage name usually wikipedia articles would list her real name.

Any reason for not using her real name or is her real name used with an incorrect (not real name)?Woods01 (talk) 08:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

It does seem odd that the name given in the Bloomberg article cited here as Reference 1, https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-delilah/ , identifies her by a name that does not appear in the current state of this article. That same name can be found on another page (written for young readers) with explanatory background: http://thecharacternetwork.org/the-delilah-rene-luke-story/ . It was also used in fairly recent NPR coverage: http://www.npr.org/2016/08/16/490174019/the-familiar-voice-of-delilah-a-nighttime-companion-on-the-radio The apparently original surname (maiden name?) also appeared here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/nickrkm/youre-listening-to-delilah?utm_term=.jdGLrNZXp#.qyO1bj9Xr and here: http://archive.kitsapsun.com/news/local/yes-that-delilah-lives-in-south-kitsap-ep-422270030-358677691.html The disappearing surname in this case raises a question of the status of the name that now (since when?) occurs in the surname position, "Rene." Did that name originate as a middle name? Her birth name, I concede, is arguably trivial, but the story of how her stage name evolved strikes me as of likely interest to many readers.

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: move to Delilah (radio host) Armbrust 12:36, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Delilah Rene → Delilah (radio personality) – or Delilah (radio host), though the former phrase seems more common on Misplaced Pages in general. Although natural disambiguation is generally a good idea, it's not usually applied to mononymous people. See Talk:Madonna (entertainer)#Requested move (May 2013) for a recent example of this. Checking the low hits from "delilah rene" -wikipedia confirms that this is not her WP:COMMONNAME. --Relisted. --Mdann52talk to me! 13:26, 4 November 2013 (UTC)--Relisted. — Amakuru (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC) BDD (talk) 19:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Oppose Delilah (radio personality), neutral on Delilah (radio host). "Personality" is nearly as bad a disambiguator as "entertainer" is, so moving to a version of that would be a step in the wrong direction. While I agree that she's not most commonly known as "Delilah Rene", avoiding artificial disambiguation for people is useful, so I don't have a strong preference on the "radio host" disambiguator. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 20:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Oppose Delilah (radio personality), neutral on Delilah (radio host). pretty much verbatim as 168.12.253.66. I don't think she's really in the Madonna category either as she has used both maiden and married names in some talk shows. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:03, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Oppose - Surname is fine as is. Regardless of sources, why must everybody call a lesser-known radio host/personality simply "Delilah" is beyond me. Maybe we can ignore WP:COMMONNAMES and WP:NCP in favor of common sense? There is Delilah (musician), a more notable figure. --George Ho (talk) 17:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Support Delilah (radio host) - better disambiguator. Honestly, I did not know Delilah's last name (until now). In fact, this entire discussion resulted in me finding out Madonna's last name. That alone seems to fit the WP:COMMONNAME criterion for this discussion. In fact, having the last name "Rene" appear in the article name seems to distract readers from realizing who this person is when they find the article; what if Madonna's article appeared as Madonna Ciccone instead? Without a picture, I would bit somewhat confused; similar concept here, but unfortunately, since most people have no idea what any radio talk show host looks like, the name (of the article) should be immediately recognizable. Steel1943 (talk) 05:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Support Delilah (radio host). While the last name is good natural disambiguation, a cursory look suggests it's rarely used in what sources are available: 57 Google News archives hits for "Delilah Rene" compared to 3,870 for Delilah+radio, the bulk of which appear to be relevant. If someone has evidence that the last name is better known than it seems to be, I may switch per NATURALDIS, but until then I think a parenthetical will be more recognizable to readers.--Cúchullain /c 20:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Birth Year?

The article states she was born in 1960, yet the article is categorized in 1958 births. Which is correct? MichaelCaricofe (talk) 04:49, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

When did the show begin?

I think it would of intererest to know when the Delilah show first aired. Also, what is her personal and professional background? Where did she grow up? What school (s) did she attend? What did do for a living before the show debuted?--2600:1003:B109:3BE9:BCA7:821C:2F3E:725E (talk) 05:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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