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Same if you try to rape girl that isn't quite "ready". Can it be done, at all? ] 10:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC) Same if you try to rape girl that isn't quite "ready". Can it be done, at all? ] 10:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


what an incredibly *stupid* thing to say. in your opinion, when is a girl (as opposed to a womyn) ''ready'' for rape (sic.) what an incredibly *stupid* thing to say. in your opinion, when is a girl (as opposed to a woman) is''ready'' for rape (sic.)
By ''ready'' I mean ''wet down there'', if you insist. ] By ''ready'' I mean ''wet down there'', if you insist. ]


This is not meant as a discussion of the topic but a discussion of improving the article. Discussion pages are not the place to preach your man hating feminist bullshit. (] (]) 11:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)) This is not meant as a discussion of the topic but a discussion of improving the article. Discussion pages are not the place to preach your man hating feminist bullshit. (] (]) 11:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC))
:Please do not attack other users, this is unacceptable. ''']]]''' 11:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC) :Please do not attack other users, this is unacceptable. ''']]]''' 11:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)


==Proposed move== ==Proposed move==
although might be originated from africa, today it is becoming popular in the US so using the african culture for the title is wrong and i suggest to remove it . although might be originated from africa, today it is becoming popular in the US so using the african culture for the title is wrong and i suggest to remove it . true


*'''Support wholeheartedly'''. And make the existing ] a dab page. ] 18:15, 3 September 2005 (UTC) *'''Support wholeheartedly'''. And make the existing ] a dab page. ] 18:15, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
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Most focus seems to be on the problem being a dry vagina and resulting vaginal pain. Do some references also discuss dry penises (perhaps due to lack of foreskin) and penis pain? Not sure if the focus here is unbiased. ] (]) 19:38, 28 October 2013 (UTC) Most focus seems to be on the problem being a dry vagina and resulting vaginal pain. Do some references also discuss dry penises (perhaps due to lack of foreskin) and penis pain? Not sure if the focus here is unbiased. ] (]) 19:38, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Like you stated, most sources focus on females with regard to this matter. The significant majority of sources, in fact. Therefore, ] is given to the female aspect; nothing biased about that. Like WP:Due weight makes clear (when scrolling down to the '''Balancing aspects''' and '''Giving "equal validity"''' subsections), there should not be an attempt to give "equal validity" to things that are not on equal footing with regard to coverage among sources. As for you made to the article (while male pain should be mentioned), the focus should stay on female pain, as pain from dry sex is significantly more prominent among females; I'll take care of that at a later date. ] (]) 20:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC) :Like you stated, most sources focus on females with regard to this matter. The significant majority of sources, in fact. Therefore, ] is given to the female aspect; nothing biased about that. Like WP:Due weight makes clear (when scrolling down to the '''Balancing aspects''' and '''Giving "equal validity"''' subsections), there should not be an attempt to give "equal validity" to things that are not on equal footing with regard to coverage among sources. As for you made to the article (while male pain should be mentioned), the focus should stay on female pain, as pain from dry sex is significantly more prominent among females; I'll take care of that at a later date. ] (]) 20:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:: The reason is obvious; males penis does not matter, and is irrelevant in dry sex. Vagina is naturally moist, and dry sex always involves a female vaginal sexual intercourse. Therefor the article focuses on the female aspect, because that is the only way. "dry sex" MEANS the vagina is manually de-mostifed of its moisture, and then have sex. In this respect, penis has nothing to do with it, as it the only requirement is the vagina, and the penis cannot be dry or moist.--] ], 00:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC) :: The reason is obvious; males penis does not matter, and is irrelevant in dry sex. Vagina is naturally moist, and dry sex always involves a female vaginal sexual intercourse. Therefor the article focuses on the female aspect, because that is the only way. "dry sex" MEANS the vagina is manually de-mostifed of its moisture, and then have sex. In this respect, penis has nothing to do with it, as it the only requirement is the vagina, and the penis cannot be dry or moist.--] ], 00:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Non-penetrative sex

  • Strongly oppose As defined in the article this is clearly penetrative and it's not safe sex unless you use a condom. The only link with non-penetrative sex is the latter includes the similarly named but unrelated "dry humping" (rubbing together without penetration). --Simon Speed (talk) 18:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - There is not much overlap or redundancy. Also, a merge like the one proposed tends to cause confusion to people who are not Misplaced Pages writers (in my opinion). APatcher (talk) 00:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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More things I don't understand. This should be pretty painful. How can men enjoy it?

Same if you try to rape girl that isn't quite "ready". Can it be done, at all? 217.25.194.150 10:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

what an incredibly *stupid* thing to say. in your opinion, when is a girl (as opposed to a woman) isready for rape (sic.) By ready I mean wet down there, if you insist. 217.25.194.150

This is not meant as a discussion of the topic but a discussion of improving the article. Discussion pages are not the place to preach your man hating feminist bullshit. (Stickethstickley (talk) 11:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC))

Please do not attack other users, this is unacceptable. Nikthestoned 11:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed move

although might be originated from africa, today it is becoming popular in the US so using the african culture for the title is wrong and i suggest to remove it . true

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 03:41, September 13, 2005 (UTC)

Primary/Secondary Definition

I would suggest that the "alternative" definition of "dry sex" as "outercourse" be made the primary definition, and the African practice of drying the vagina be made secondary. This is the way I always hear it. Foxxygirltamara 18:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, the term "dry sex" as the African practice has become a rather international political terminology & concern regarding the AIDS epidemic. It's a word you hear in this context on CNN and such. 67.5.156.37 04:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Male sources

Find medical sources: Source guidelines · PubMed · Cochrane · DOAJ · Gale · OpenMD · ScienceDirect · Springer · Trip · Wiley · TWL Most focus seems to be on the problem being a dry vagina and resulting vaginal pain. Do some references also discuss dry penises (perhaps due to lack of foreskin) and penis pain? Not sure if the focus here is unbiased. Ranze (talk) 19:38, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Like you stated, most sources focus on females with regard to this matter. The significant majority of sources, in fact. Therefore, WP:Due weight is given to the female aspect; nothing biased about that. Like WP:Due weight makes clear (when scrolling down to the Balancing aspects and Giving "equal validity" subsections), there should not be an attempt to give "equal validity" to things that are not on equal footing with regard to coverage among sources. As for this addition you made to the article (while male pain should be mentioned), the focus should stay on female pain, as pain from dry sex is significantly more prominent among females; I'll take care of that at a later date. Flyer22 (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The reason is obvious; males penis does not matter, and is irrelevant in dry sex. Vagina is naturally moist, and dry sex always involves a female vaginal sexual intercourse. Therefor the article focuses on the female aspect, because that is the only way. "dry sex" MEANS the vagina is manually de-mostifed of its moisture, and then have sex. In this respect, penis has nothing to do with it, as it the only requirement is the vagina, and the penis cannot be dry or moist.--Pretty les♀, Dark Mistress, talk, 00:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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