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== ''The Bugle'': Issue 224, December 2024 ==
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] Hello, I'm ]. I noticed that you reverted my changes to the article Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but you didn't provide a ]. It (the revert) has been removed for now, but if you'd like to ] and re-add it, please do so! See also article's talk-page and provided academic sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on ]. Thank you. ] (]) 15:05, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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:Yes I know who you are, Jingiby - ]. Just don't edit-war and we'll get along fine. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 15:09, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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::The problem there is Silvio1973's lack of English skills. I have conversed with the user at ''immense'' length, and I'm afraid that (by my own personal estimate) he simply does not possess the understanding of English required for the sort of complicated discussion such a controversial issue engenders. Neither can he often fully understand the very sources he attempts to cite in support of his position (and usually interprets them in-line with a strong pro-Italian bias). Either that, or this is one ''hell'' of a case of deliberate ], but I'm somewhat less convinced of that possibility.
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::To be sure, the user can read and post intelligible posts when he really makes the effort, but usually, as the discussion goes on, the exchange, unsatisfactory to begin with, deteriorates further and further in terms of understanding (presumably as the user gets tired of writing and reading English).
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::I hope you can appreciate my position. I'm sort of caught between "a rock and a hard place", as it were. On the one hand I can not just stand by and let the user go through with low-quality, biased edits, often fraudulently sourced - yet on the other I'd rather have ''my nails ripped out'' than try to discuss with him yet again (if you'll pardon the mental image). As I said, I've already written ''volumes'' of text to make no real progress, and nobody else really seems to care in spite of several DR attempts. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 21:11, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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:::@Silvio1973, you may be once again in the mood to see me beat my head against a brick wall, but I'm afraid I'm less inclined to do so. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 22:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
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==Istrians==
Hi Direktor. Concerning this edit, I can't help but fear that preferential criteria is being introduced on what to many is unfavourable. Ethnicity by its very description is the label by which an individual identifies himself. Conservative Serbs feel the same way about Montenegrins; conservative Serbs and Croats both have reservations over Bosniaks and to whom they belong; Bulgarians and Serbs question Macedonian ethnicity, everybody likes to denounce Yugoslavs, the list goes on for ever but there is no "Day 1" policy. If a person wishes to call himself Istrian, it makes precious little difference whether his dad is Serb and his mother Croat because the only thing that makes them Serb and Croat in the first place is their decision to dclare themselves as such, it doesn't mean they have bloodlines going back to some imaginary progenitor. That's why I believe ethnicities should be given equal treatment. ] (]) 22:09, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
:Well, it was me who added the "('Istrians')" bit in the first place, and perhaps I was in error when I did. The census (if I recall) only says "regionally declared", and we should stick to that. To refer to the "regionally declared" people as "Istrians" is unsourced and constitutes OR. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 22:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Aha. I know about the "regionally declared" status of Croatian citizens. Surprisingly, ''I'' myself am in that category!!!!!!! But I am not implying any form of WP:OR. I guess it's a hard one then - no smooth easy way of imparting the actual status. I'll leave it in your hands. BTW, I support your position on the ] article, so I am not someone out to oppose editors on every conflict. ] (]) 22:22, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

== Republic of Kosovo ==

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