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== AFD closure query ==


== Happy Holidays ==
Hi mate! I wanted to query closure with you. From my perspective, the delete/merge !votes were almost entirely "per previous AFDs", most of which were based on ], which no longer applies. Both the nom (who also !voted in addition to his nomination) and the "per nom" contribution immediately after the AFD opened were seemingly unaware of the subsequent DRV. Both had this drawn to their attention; neither responded. Then there was the "delete" contribution on the basis of a lack of sources which even the "merge" crowd agreed wasn't the case (and hasn't been the case since the first AFD). There were fairly strong policy-based arguments from the "keep crowd" (dismissing BLP1E, highlighting sources) and arguments refuting the various "per previous" arguments from SPA IPs (which have a history of showing up at previous AFDs) - none were willing/able to come back and make a solid case. I'm inclined to take this back to DRV to ''re-endorse'' the previous decision there to allow recreation on the basis that BLP1E no longer applies, thus all of the "per previous" !votes were entirely weightless. ]] 03:22, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
* I don't take any notice of any previous AFD or DRV when closing deletion discussions. The problem I had in closing as "keep" was not only numeric, though, as some of the keep votes were simply of the format "]". ] (]) 08:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:*Sure, fair enough, but if you ignored previous AFDs and the majority of ''delete'' contributions were "per previous AFD" (including the nomination), I can't see we could then arrive at a consensus to delete. I'm suggesting "no consensus" was the most obvious result, with no consensus to either keep or delete in particular. That said (and though I appreciate you've said you didn't take previous discussions into account) there ''was'' a previous (recent) DRV discussion where consensus wasn't exactly ambiguous - it was qualitatively and quantitatively in favour of allowing recreation on the basis that BLP1E no longer applied. The alternative is that I just go and recreate the article on the basis that the concerns raised at AFD no longer apply (given they actually didn't apply ''before'' the AFD) and per the DRV that permitted recreation. That, of course, would effectively mean reverting your closure. So I'm stuck. ]] 14:12, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


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"And while I'm alive, I'll make tiny changes to earth." Frightened Rabbit
Black Kite
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

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