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== dyk == | |||
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Hey, Epicgenius! So here's the thing about dyk: if you haven't created preps, you have no idea what prep-setters and admins at dyk do or what challenges they face. Many editors who are regular nominators and reviewers think they'd be willing to admin, but have never filled preps, and when they become admins and start moving preps to queues, they quickly realize they didn't know what they were volunteering for. A prep-setter doesn't just create a balanced set. They also do a quick re-review on many of the hooks; you get to know whose hooks you don't have to review too heavily, but you always have to at least go check for a recent edit war or tags. If the nominator or the reviewer are new or known to be sloppy, you'll have to do a full re-review of that hook. Often prep-setters have questions they have to ask at the hook, and they deal with pushback from noms/reviewers/passersby for that. Then once you've finished a prep you have to deal with fallout at DYK talk and ERRORS. Admins do the exact same thing -- a re-review, because prep-setters miss things too, then the move (fairly simple), posting questions at DYK talk and pinging involved parties, dealing with pushback from them, and finally any fallout at ERRORS when someone finds an error you missed. So if you think you would be willing to admin at dyk, definitely go fill preps for a while to see if you like it or not. Some people love it -- I did, and I like adminning there -- but not everyone is cut out for it. It's a high-visibility job. People catch your mistakes, and the only way to prevent that is to catch other people's mistakes first. ] (]) 15:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
:{{u|Valereee}}, thanks for the advice. That is good to know. I think this sort of stuff should be enjoyable for me, even if a bit difficult. I just read the project page on prep areas, and it seems a bit difficult to get a good balance on hooks. ] (]) 15:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
::That's one of the most fun parts of setting preps. The thing to do for your first prep is pick the bottom empty set (which right now gives you three days to fill it but normally six days.) Count to figure out whether the image hook needs a bio or a non-bio (it alternates by day). Go find one, vet it, and transfer it. That'll let the other prep setters know you'll fill that set. Not that they or an admin won't move stuff in and out if they need it or think another set is better for that hook, but in general one prep-setter works on a set. Then start putting the puzzle together -- no more than four bios (alternating in the set with non-bio), no more than one music/science/military/whatever subject. Not too many from any one country, though 2 - 4 USA hooks will be necessary. A balance of geographical area, not all from English-speaking countries. A balance of long and short. And of course a quirky. It's an art. Don't be afraid to trim or tweak hooks, but read the nom first if you do, as there may have already been discussion. Keep on top of talk in case someone asks a question about one of the hooks in that set, because some people won't realize they need to ping you as the promoter. :) Ping me any time, and Yoninah will often leave pointers on how to improve at your talk. When she stops, you know you're getting near the point of competence. :) ] (]) 15:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Once again, very impressive work on very important station complex and line articles. There is more to be added about the change in BMT plans re:Canal Street. Eventually, ] should be its own article. Also, the citations for ] are really messed up and include self-published sources like nycsubway.org, and there is more history that could be added. A lot of my older GA nominations should be looked at again for things like this. Also, for Union Square, it is worth mentioning the impromptu 9/11 memorial, and the post-2016 election post-it notes (https://mashable.com/article/power-of-post-it-note-protest-subway-therapy, https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/post-it-notes-left-union-square-election-preserved-article-1.2913344, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/12/19/post-election-subway-therapy-sticky-notes-taken-down-but-not-thrown-out/, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/nyregion/subway-election-therapy-wall-sticky-notes.html). ] (]) 14:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:@], the pleasure is mine. I do agree that the ] should get its own page in the future. I've also noticed that there's a lot more that can be said about the Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line, especially its construction, and will have to work on it gradually. The biggest mess, though, is the Canal Street article - there are a lot of details about the BMT station that are just not mentioned at the moment, and the article in general needs more refs.{{pb}}As for the Union Square station, the article already mentions both the 9/11 memorial and the post-it wall (the second paragraph of ]). I thought one paragraph would be sufficient, seeing as how the artwork was not sanctioned by the MTA but seems to be covered by multiple reliable sources. – ] (]) 14:38, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::I fully agree. I missed it somehow. Don't forget the studies, like the one that found making accessible was infeasible, and which provides some sourcing for station layout (i.e. platform length/width). ] (]) 15:17, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::It also is probably worth mentioning in the Clark Street article. ] (]) 15:30, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::I agree and can get around to that soon. In the meantime, I was looking at the study for Union Square, which says: {{tq|This technology does not meet ADA standards, and since there is currently no technology that does, there is no fully accessible solution for the southbound platform. We are including an option for providing elevator service to this platform in this report with the understanding that this will not provide a fully accessible solution at this time.}} So I suppose this means the southbound platform ''can'' get an elevator, it just won't be ADA-accessible because gap fillers, by their very nature, are ADA-inaccessible. – ] (]) 15:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::Yeah. Also, unrelated, but the 1990 Clark Street Tunnel fire was very notable, and there were major reports done on fire safety/communication, etc. in its aftermath. It would warrant an article of its own. ] (]) 16:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::I also think the 1990 Clark Street fire should get its own article. (I think the fire happened just east of the Clark Street station, though, not in the tunnel under the river.) In terms of recent NYC Subway disasters, the fire has had at least as much of an impact as the ] or the ] did. – ] (]) 17:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Also-the provisions in the Eastern Parkway Line used for the Clark Street Tunnel connection were initially intended for a line over the Manhattan Bridge. ] (]) 14:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::::That is interesting. If we can find a reliable source for this, I could add it to the Borough Hall or Eastern Parkway Line articles. – ] (]) 14:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I have seen reliable sources for this-if you cannot find them, I can look for them after I get my final paper for the semester done today. ] (]) 14:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::I started a draft Clark Street Tunnel article here: ]. ] (]) 14:41, 7 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::Have you seen before? ] (]) 16:53, 10 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::@], I have, but thanks for clipping it. The first part of that source seems to largely duplicate the ref that's already in the ] article. But it has some info that isn't mentioned in the NYHT source, specifically the 535-foot length of the station. The second part of the source could be used for the ] article though. – ] (]) 17:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::Outstanding work on the article. We really shouldn't be using The Station Reporter as a source. ] (]) 18:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::There is stuff to be added about flooding/water intrusion problems at Canal. ] (]) 17:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::There was a report put out. I found two articles I had clipped (https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-new-york-times/98305321/, https://www.newspapers.com/article/times-union/99774843/) ] (]) 17:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I agree. I've noticed quite a bit of info about how Canal Street's proximity to the old Collect Pond contributed to tons of water problems there. I can add these sources in later. – ] (]) 18:04, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::::It was , not a report. I haven't found it online. ] (]) 18:14, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I found . ] (]) 18:18, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::This journal is a great source for construction details. I found with details on underpinning and other aspects of subway construction from 1919, one on , , and ] (]) 18:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::That's very interesting. I might have to look through this journal to, um, shore up some architectural articles as well. That Canal Street article was really detailed, and I expect the others will be no different. – ] (]) 18:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::Also one on , the , and ] (]) 18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::Sorry for spamming here, but also , and , , the , and ] (]) 19:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::No problem. I will just add all these links to a subsection of ], where we can both track it easily. – ] (]) 21:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::, , and , and as well ] (]) 18:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::There is thorough masterpiece on Dual Contracts construction. ] (]) 19:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
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I think that, in the context of the article, the point of calling it a "major thoroughfare" is not to say that it is one of the biggest streets in Queens, but to say that in relation to the residential side street (Austin Street) it was a busier and more active road where perhaps help or safety could be found. Don't think of it as describing Lefferts in relation to all streets in Queens, but only about its relationship to the event taking place there at that moment. ] (]) 20:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::] <small>'''Bumping thread''' for 360 days. ] (]) 17:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)</small><!-- ] 17:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC) -->{{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|1725555783}} – ] (]) 17:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Isn't the correct name of this thoroughfare "119th Street"? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 22:12, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:@], by the way, we might want to flesh out ], my sandbox on the ]. I'm planning to bring the ] article to GA, which will probably require condensing the ] section, and the closures are a notable topic that I've been meaning to finish writing about for a while. – ] (]) 23:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
::On second thought, Austin Street ''is'' too a busy street, at least east of Yellowstone Boulevard. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 22:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::@] I have been very busy, but, when I have a chance, will try to get back to this. Amazing work on all the bridge articles. ] (]) 13:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I took a look on Google Maps' Street View at the intersection (which, of course, is not the same thing as looking at it as it was 60 years ago), and Austin Street is residential looking and not all that wide (2 lanes of parking and one of traffic), while Lefferts Boulevard is about 33% bigger (2 lanes of parking, 2 lanes of traffic in 2 directions) with retail shops - so the point of the statement in the article stands, I think, that getting to Lefferts Boulevard was an attempt to get to a more major thoroughfare. ] (]) 03:53, 17 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:The recently came out. Some articles may need to be updated to reflect this. – ] (]) 13:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::A 4-lane street is no less important than a 5-lane street if they are both heavily traveled and/or heavily visited. Austin Street is very busy around 71st/Continental Avenue. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 12:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::: '''''Now'''''. What was it like back then? ] (]) 03:10, 25 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::Umm... empty? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 16:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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==== 1 World Trade Center ==== | |||
Please don't do again. All you have done here is change a problem article which can be deleted because of the problem, to an even worse one that now can't. If you're not capable of translating something properly, adding a bad machine translation is not a productive thing to do--] ] 17:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* Needs history section | |||
*What is wrong with it? Why ''should'' I not do it again? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 17:58, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* Needs design section, which I will write shortly | |||
:*Did you bother to read it after you copy and pasted the translation in, without thought to any kind of readability, syntax or grammar? Please do so now, and perhaps you will see why it was not an improvement--] ] 18:01, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* Needs destruction section | |||
::*Yes, I read it, and no, I didn't want to waste time to re-edit it correctly, because of the many errors in the article. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:04, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* "List of tenants" '' may '' need to be split to a separate article due to length | |||
:::*Let me get this straight. You added a mass of terrible content, realised it was terrible, and because it was terrible decided not to fix it? You've really got this whole "editing the encyclopedia thing" down haven't you--] ] 18:07, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* "92nd Floor" section needs removed and incorporated into above "Destruction" section | |||
::::*Well, I just came across it. I didn't know about the article before I clicked on the link. I don't know anything about the subject, either. Even if I knew Albanian, I would not have been able to edit it. What else should I have done? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:10, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
==== 2 World Trade Center ==== | |||
:::::*Not edit it perhaps? If you came across a man needing a heart transplant would you just jump in and give it a shot? (assuming you're not actually a heart surgeon)--] ] 18:13, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* Needs history section | |||
::::::*Actually, I want to be a surgeon (seriously, I'm going to go to medical school in a couple of years), so, nope. I've RB'ed my edit. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
* Needs design section | |||
* Needs destruction section | |||
* Potentially needs rewrite, after reading it I spotted a few errors | |||
==== 3 World Trade Center ==== | |||
* Actually has a history section, but needs expanded | |||
* Rewrite Destruction section | |||
* May need a "design" section | |||
==== 4 World Trade Center ==== | |||
* Has history and destruction sections | |||
* Both need expanded | |||
* More images needed | |||
==== 5 World Trade Center ==== | |||
* Half of the article is about 9/11, meaning half of the article is about 1 day when the structure existed for 31 years | |||
* Needs a design section | |||
* Either the gallery section needs removed or expanded to comply with MOS, it's currently just 3 images chilling around | |||
==== 6 World Trade Center ==== | |||
==== 7 World Trade Center ==== | |||
== Hypertension == | |||
* Needs architecture section | |||
* Needs more history pre-2001 | |||
* The destruction section may need to be summarized per ] | |||
I added the above subheaders just in case we need a list of things to do. :) ] <small>(] - ] - ])</small> 16:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
hello epicgenius ! :) | |||
:{{Re|Sir MemeGod}} Thanks for starting this section. I might move this to ] when we're done figuring out what to do (since idk where else to put it). ] (]) 16:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::By the way, ] has some info about the Twin Towers' structural design, so we can copy some of the relevant info into these articles. – ] (]) 16:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 26 == | |||
you reverted an edit of mine, on 16-Oct at 16:44, page ] paragraph #1. | |||
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original text - "... A proportion of people with high blood pressure report headaches (particularly at the back of the head and in the morning), as well as lightheadedness, vertigo, tinnitus (buzzing or hissing in the ears), altered vision or fainting episodes. These symptoms '''however are more likely''' to be related to associated anxiety than the high blood pressure itself." | |||
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my edit - "... These symptoms '''might be''' related to associated anxiety rather than the high blood pressure itself." | |||
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the problem - the cited article DOES NOT demonstrate it is 'more likely'. it suggests a possible relationship, without proving the relationship causality or % incidence. | |||
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''ps - there are other factors which can cause both hypertension and anxiety and the other symptoms (eg POTS/OI, causing increased epinephrine etc). there are other factors which can cause both hypertension and the other symptoms. i don't have proof of % incidence. i'm just pointing out that the relationship between hypertension, anxiety, and other symptoms, isn't simple.'' | |||
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Please stop deleting parameters that may subsequently be input from infoboxes. Thanks.--] (]) 20:23, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:There is a greater chance that the article bight be deleted, merged, or otherwise changed than there is of the infobox parameters being filled. Also, what's the odds of ''all'' the parameters being filled? (Note: I have been talked to about this before.) ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 20:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::It's broadly accepted that infoboxes are input in the template form. Deletion of parameters that might be input is not an accepted practice. It causes unnecessary work for those who may later input the parameters, or worse yet leads to a failure to encourage input of the information. There is no consensus support for your practice. It's disruptive for you to engage in that practice -- you are deleting parameters that may be filled in later, without consensus support for the practice. If you wish to change consensus, feel free. If you have been spoken to about this before, and taken an IDONTLIKEIT approach against consensus, marring the template form as input, that could be a problem. Please don't do it in the future. You add nothing to how the article itself looks, as readers do not see as-of-yet unfilled parameters, and you impair the future of the article for zero benefit. Thanks.--] (]) 20:37, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::If that is the case, then what I did is justified, for the parameters that I deleted do not seem to be added into the article in the future, if the infobox gets altered at all. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 20:43, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::That's completely untrue. Obviously. Just look at your deletion . Of course its untrue, for example that you happen to know that an image will never, ever be added. Anyway -- the rule, which should make it simple for you -- is to leave such parameters as they are, unfilled. It does not damage to what the reader sees. What you are doing, in contrast, is disruptive. Not only that -- you left an extremely misleading edit summary there, failing to mention that the vast majority of your edit was the deletion of template parameters. Please, as well, leave properly descriptive edit summaries, rather than misleading ones.--] (]) 21:18, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::See the conversion templates that I added onto the page. I just wanted to make a 'constructive' edit with these, but apparently that's untrue too, since conversion templates need to be written out completely, just so you can leave 90% of the template empty. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 21:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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What was your thinking in removing the identification of the East River being located in New York City from the ] article? I don't get how it has a problem that needed to be fixed. ] (]) 23:38, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Huh? I don't get what you are talking about. Please provide a link to the diff. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 23:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::In you changed "New York's East River" to "the <nowiki>]</nowiki>" in the infobox. ] (]) 23:44, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::...because there's only one East River in New York. I'll change it back. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 23:47, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Stop reversing this edit. == | |||
So, you need to not reverse the line on Mary Richardson" "One may observe from photos, that Mary Richardson attacked a painting of a highly attractive voluptuous nude with a comely face; the exact opposite of her own unattractive straight body type." Per the talk page: | |||
There is a serious problem with the line at the end of the section on Fascism, which stated: ""One may observe from photos, that Mary Richardson attacked a painting of a highly attractive voluptuous nude with a comely face; the exact opposite of her own unattractive straight body type." | |||
First, this is opinion, second it is misogynistic, third it is unsighted or supported by any reference. Get it together, folks. The original removal of this sentence was done by an esteemed art historian. Stop reversing it. — <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:57, 31 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:...I don't get what you just said. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 17:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 17:51, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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If I spot you using rollback to edit war at ] one more time, I will remove it. Stop messing around at that article, please. ]] 14:33, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Show me one instance where I have used it. Besides, I use ] to roll back edits that are not really constructive (for example, why do you need a table of contents for an article with just four sections? Is the reader too lazy to scroll down or something?). ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 14:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::So, what am I supposed to do? Press "undo"? That would get me blocked. Should I just pressed "Edit" then inserted it manually? That takes too much time. Any ideas? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 14:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Stop edit-warring, perhaps? Start discussions '''before''', rather than after, the page has to be given full edit protection because of your instance on minor formatting changes? Hmmm.... ]] 14:49, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::There is nothing to edit war about. It is quite obvious that the article does not need a TOC. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 14:51, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::"''It is quite obvious that the article does not need a TOC.''"{{fact}} "Quite obvious" to you, it may well be, but when it's disputed, discuss it, don't just plough on regardless as if you're magically entitled to edit-war. ]] 14:54, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::"''''''It is quite obvious that the article does not need a TOC.'''''' {{fact}} "Quite obvious" to you, it may well be"<br>Count how many sections the article has. Then measure the article's length. Do you really think that such a short article needs a table of contents? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 14:56, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Don't change the subject. I'm not here to discuss that issue with you. I'm here to point out you're edit-warring, and "I'm in the right" isn't a defence here. If I see you edit-warring again, whatever tool or process you use to do it, I will block you. Understood? ]] 15:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Okay... ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 15:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::I don't understand why the page was protected at 14:35 yet your first edit to the talk page was at 14:40, could you possibly explain why that is ? The Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle has collapsed in a heap for some reason, I'd like to know why. | |||
::::::I'm also interested in why it would have taken too much time to enter the revision manually with a meaningful edit summary instead of (1) no edit summary (2) no table of contents needed and (3) no edit summary beyond TW's automatic one, I wasn't aware it was necessary to make edits within a second, as if this is some sort of game. | |||
::::::Finally, I'm mystified as to why you care about the Table of Contents, you might not find it useful, what about other users though, don't they get consideration or a say in the matter ? ] (]) 15:01, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Usually, I post my concerns on talk pages, but this time, my edits got reverted so quickly that I did not have a chance to talk. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 15:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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If I can explain, I wanted to incude the Alvechurch Grammar School Charitable Trust in the Alvechuch Wiki page as it is a significant institution in Alvechurch. It has been going for over 200 years and has helped countless local children in the Alvechurch area. As such, IMHO, it deserves to be part of the Alvechurch page. It is verifiable, bona fide and is the subject of Articles in the Village magazine, which is already mentioned on the Alvechurch Wiki page (http://villageonline.ehclients.com/village/features/feature/trust_ready_to_help_out/), although unfortunately its web presence only dates to this year. | |||
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== Reverted edit for software version in infobox. == | |||
Hey, I'm new here and was wondering if I had stepped out of line changing the infobox on a wiki page that you reverted. Specifically, I'm referring to this edit: <br> | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=TrueCrypt&diff=580057978&oldid=580040922. | |||
I ask because I thought I was doing good by standardizing this page across other infoboxes that also have the latest software versions tied to Template/LSR subpages. | |||
Examples:<br> | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/Spotify<br> | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/Firefox<br> | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/Windows_NT<br> | |||
Also, there was no information lost with my contribution. Both the current version and the date the latest version went live remained. | |||
I really am new and would like some input. | |||
Thanks. | |||
*The problem here is that the infobox doesn't support the parameter, so that what you typed in won't display on the page. Thanks for trying to clarify the situation, though. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 02:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:* Ah, is there a way to do it so that it would show up? I looked around the documentation for a while and looked at the differences between other software infoboxes for a while as well and didn't see an obvious way to do it. Thanks for getting back to me.] (]) 02:46, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::*After looking at the infobox, I think that you would have to change the entire infobox (and edit all of its transclusions) in order to get your parameter supported. All the parameters are as follows: <code><nowiki>{{Infobox software | |||
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| latest preview version = | |||
| latest preview date = <!-- {{Start date and age|YYYY|MM|DD|df=yes/no}} --> | |||
| frequently updated = <!-- DO NOT include this parameter unless you know what it does --> | |||
| status = | |||
| programming language = | |||
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| platform = | |||
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}}</nowiki></code> Whereas the parameter you added, <code>| frequently updated = </code> is not supported in the infobox. Secondly, it is template-protected, so you would need a ] or an administrator to do the changes. Thanks. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 12:57, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::* Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, I don't think I marked this conversation as "watch". I don't think you need to revise the entire infobox. If you were to undo the latest edit to the infobox and click "preview" the stable release and release date still appear, only it's pulled from a template page instead. "Stable release 7.1a (February 7, 2012; 20 months ago) ". I made sure that when I saved my change to the infobox that the software version still appeared where it had been. Moreover I noticed that other software infoboxes went about displaying it's software versions in the same way. I noticed truecrypt didn't follow this model when I tried to use the wikipedia API to get a list of software versions. It follows it now since I've added a template page (see: ]), in that I can pull the version using the API now, but if Truecrypt were to ever update then no one would change the template page if the infobox already has the newest version, making any api call to the template page out of date.] (]) 17:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::*Okay, so just undo my edit, if you are confident that the template will not be broken. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 16:56, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::* Changed, thank you for your help. ] (]) 17:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, I just saw you moved this page to ]. Why did you do this? There is no such thing as "the first," the "second," or even "junior" in ]. The parenthetical Roman numeral was only placed on ] pages to differentiate the different ]s who have the same name. The Roman numeral should not be looked at as part of their name. ] (]) 16:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, so can there be ], ], etc. rather than the confusing Roman numerals? The "I" can be confused with a lowercase "L" or even a pipe "|". ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 16:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::That looks kinda strange, doesn't it? The system has really been working fine as it is, with ] and ], ] and ], and ] and ]. ] (]) 17:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Okay, so change all of them. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 17:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::You mean revert what you did? The only other thing I can think of is to expand the title, e.g.: ], ], ], ]. ] (]) 17:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::No, I meant to do what I did. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 17:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::As I mentioned, this is an unacceptable naming convention in ]. Shall we move this discussion to the ] page to get consensus from other editors? ] (]) 17:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Yes, let's try that. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hi there, the discussion is taking place at ]. ] (]) 11:19, 6 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry it took so long for me to respond; I was traveling. I will check it out. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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: You should report this IP to ], can't now I am off to school. —] <sup>]</sup> 22:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:: The IP does not seem to be disruptive—the only thing he/she is doing is removing the font colour, which actually should not be used in text. It is only used in the layout at all because the layout is not part of the prose. However, ,what I '''''will''''' do is to first try to resolve this discussion civilly, then if all fails, go to ]. --]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 00:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::: If the IP continues to revert three revert rule so the fourth one is a block, so just don't let it get that far.—] <sup>]</sup> 01:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Okay, thanks for the reminder. {{=)}} ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
: I noticed that an anonymous editor removed a section from the ] article, noting in the edit comment (correctly) that it was unsourced. You restored the section with no explanation. If you're going to restore disputed text, you should add sources supporting the described layout. Just because the editor chooses not to create an account does not mean that the edits are any less valid. ] (]) 01:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Never did I say that the edits were invalid. I only said that the removal was unjustified. I am now going to add source. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Perhaps it wasn't your intention, but using the revert tool without an edit comment implies that you are reverting vandalism. Please explain your edits in edit comments so that other editors can understand your intentions. Remember that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative effort, not a competition. ] (]) 01:47, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::I knew that, but there is no quick way to just undo and leave comments. Next time, I will leave an explanatory comment for the IP. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::http://nycsubway.org is NOT a reliable source. It's a wiki for train enthusiasts. Please find a reliable source, restore the warning, or remove the section. ] (]) 01:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::And so we get into the discussion about ] again. The discussion ] is no less confusing. I will replace the source. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== MBTA Blue Line Platform Layout == | |||
Are you sure it is really necessary to display the ] this way. The ] can be very distracting and unlike the ] or ], the MBTA subway stations do not have more than one line serving a platform, so, I think it might be better just to have the "Northbound" written in the color of the line. ] (]) 03:37, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It would be nice to have the link to the line, but maybe it could be just a plain link, like this: "]". Otherwise it may go against ]. The highlight is only there so that it contrasts against the rest of the layout. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 12:47, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:Tell me, exactly ''why'' does a station layout need references? What purpose do references serve when the description of the station, and all its levels, is right there in the article? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:18, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::It needs references because we're trying to build an encyclopedia. We're not collecting facts which we know to be true, but collecting information which is verifiable. This is one of the key principles of Misplaced Pages. The station layout is not described elsewhere in the article—the section provides detailed (possibly to the point of ]) information which cannot be found elsewhere. In order to demonstrate that the information is correct, you need to provide references in ] which support it. If you can't find such sources, it suggests that authors of reliable sources have not felt that this information was important enough for their works, so it probably doesn't belong in Misplaced Pages either. ] (]) 18:26, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::No, but it says that there are four side platforms, four tracks, and three levels to the station in the article. Is that ] as well? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:28, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::How do you know it has four side platforms, four tracks, and three levels? ] (]) 18:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::Look at the infobox. Yes, ground level is also a level. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::That's not what I mean. How do we know that the infobox is correct? It's not referenced, so it's not verifiable. ] (]) 18:33, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
{{outdent}} Are you going to say that for ''all'' of the NYC Subway infoboxes? Also, look at the pictures, then look at what the NYC Subway 'fan sites', which you removed from the article, say. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:37, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, I will say that for all the infoboxes. You need to review ] and ]. Just because you know something to be true does not mean you can add it to Misplaced Pages. The addition of unverifiable information (even information you know to be true from personal experience!) harms the project. Surely the MTA has detailed information about the station layouts which you could use to reference these sections; spend some time to find that! ] (]) 18:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I looked the MTA website over many times previously. They don't even have facts about the stations themselves, much less any detailed descriptions! ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:44, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Consider looking for paper sources. Try the NYPL. Until then, please stop adding original research and unverifiable information to articles. ] (]) 18:48, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::What does the NYPL have to do with it? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:58, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::::::I know what NYPL stands for (even despite the fact that I use the ] more often). I just can't go to the library for NYCS station layouts because the only things that the NY Public Library has is books about the ''system'', not the individual stations. In fact, Misplaced Pages has a better collection of articles about NYCS stations than the library does about books on the same topic, ironically. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 20:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Your edit to ] == | |||
I am not happy about your edit , but have not reverted it, preferring to discuss it further with you. First, the links to articles about each association is the only way that the reader can get information about the association from reading about the Scout Promise. Second, while I realise that links in headers is not ideal, I do not see that ] actually says that they must be removed. They have been there I think for quite a while. --] ] 21:23, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:You are not happy? Let's see the policy, shall we? According to ], "''Section headings should not themselves contain links; instead, a {{tl|main}} or {{tl|seealso}} template should be placed immediately after the heading.''" If you want, you can put the links within the ]. However, please DON'T add links to headings, as they go against ]. Admins shouldn't even do that. You, being one, definitely shouldn't. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 21:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Hang on, mate. Do not take such a heavy line. First, I did not, if I recall correctly, add any of these links. Second, ] is a guideline, not a policy. There are exceptions. I think this is one of them. Adding the "Main" template is more verbose and is not quite strictly correct. It might be better to add something like "Members of ] use the following promises", in each case, but this is also over verbose, while the link in the sub heading serves the purpose splendidly. Are you just applying the guideline, or have you thought about this case? --] ] 02:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree, but links just look awkward with the section heading: | |||
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or your suggestion above. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 02:59, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::We just disagree. I see nothing awkward in any way about the linked section heading, while the other alternatives look awkward. However, I know I am probably in a minority. I am busy coding right now and coming to my watchlist briefly only while large compiles or test runs are going on. I will raise the issue at the Scouting Project sometime, but give a fair deal to all three choices and point out that the guidelines at least discourages the section link. --] ] 04:07, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::Okay. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 04:08, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Please remove the "speedy deletion" tag from the ] page I created == | |||
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== FIFA U-17 World Cup == | |||
Yes of course im sure, the 2013 edition ended with Nigeria defeating titleholders Mexico 3-0 in the Final – . --] (]) 01:17, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, then. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:24, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Bryant Park == | |||
Excuse me, what was the idea of ? What is the source of "the real name" as you say? ] (]) 14:26, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
*The IND Sixth Avenue Line's station is named 42nd Street – Bryant Park. The IRT Flushing Line's station is named Fifth Avenue. Hence, '''42nd Street – Bryant Park''' / '''Fifth Avenue'''. It complies with the naming convention of ], doesn't it? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 14:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:: You are right, I am sorry. ] (]) 16:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::It's all right. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 16:04, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Standard, High Line == | |||
You reverted your question on my talk page, but just in case, 2 problems: | |||
*You forgot to put in the unit to convert to; | |||
*In general, don't eliminate the blank line between section titles and section text. They don't display on screen, and some people -- especially those with visual problems -- find them helpful in the editing process. I used to do this regularly, until someone explained the situation, and I still find myself automatically doing it sometimes and have to go back and fix it when I realize my mistake. ] (]) 15:24, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, thanks for explaining the problem to me. I was using an automated program that did the line breaks for me; I added the conversion templates manually. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 18:06, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Ron Erhardt == | |||
My name is Sally Erhardt knoche. We have edited my fathers page Ronald Peter Erhardt pro football coach numerous times and someone keeps changing it back. This is what it should say at the bottom of the page. Also survived by first wife with his biological children. Rhoda and children Ed, Liz, Jane and Sally. Ed and wife Laurie have two children Brett and Colin. Liz and husband Gregg have 2 children Justine and Julie. Justine and her husband Andrew just gave birth to Ron's first biological great-granddaughter, Mallory! Jane and her husband Rob have two children Amanda and Alex. Sally and her husband Ron have two children Brianne and Aryka. | |||
I don't know who you are or why you keep changing it back. I was told we could add this to his page. I don't need to prove this is real. I wouldn't even know what you need to do that and once again don't know who you are. If you are doing this for the Jesse family they are not his real family and we want this in his legacy. They took out father away from us 40 years ago but they are not taking away that he had four children and keeping it a secret so they don't have to explain that he had other children with his first wife. | |||
Sally Erhardt knoche <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
*Okay, three things. First, ] others' edits more than three times is liable to get you reported or even blocked. Second, ] content should be removed. As I said in the e-mail, provide a verifiable source that '''''proves''''' that you are ''really'' his daughter, as it goes against ]. Third, what's the point of adding the paragraph? If it is to get the facts out, then however right you are, the paragraph will be removed without a source. | |||
:Imagine that I am a Joe Schmoe. I am reading the ] article and then I just see an irrelevant paragraph about his family. Then, I wonder, "Who is this user 'Briaryk' who keeps adding unverifiable information about this guy's family? WHY does it matter?" You have to ''convince'' people for why this information is important to Misplaced Pages; otherwise, more experienced editors than I will remove the paragraph without looking back. Again, what are you benefiting from adding this information? It seems that you are losing out rather than gaining anything – see ] and ]. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 19:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Hey there. For starters I didn't know anything about your policies etc. all I know is someone pointed this out to me and we would like our family to be acknowledged also. As far as what I am gaining from this really has nothing to do with you. It is what my family wants on his page after we saw it. I thought you want the truth and the real information on each page. Please tell me what I need to give you for verification?? If you look up Ron Erhardt in Fargo ND you will see that he lived their For 10 years as coach of NDSU. That is where we all lived. Do you need my birth certificate. Lol. I really don't understand again why you are changing this. People put things on pages all if the time since we found out about wikepedia and I don't see people changing it over and over. My mother put this information up and linked it to the Erhardt family web page and you still changed it back. | |||
Let me know what you want because I think this us ridiculous and I don't want to waste my time any more. | |||
Sally | |||
:::Again, like I said, if there's no sources, even if it's just a paragraph about an illegitimate family in a person's Misplaced Pages article, then the content should not belong on Misplaced Pages. You should probably provide a family connection from a website like https://familysearch.org/ . ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Here is a link to my brother who works for ESPN. Is this good enough?? | |||
People and Pop Culture - SportsBusiness Daily ... | |||
www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2012/03/22/... | |||
... died yesterday at the ... ERHARDT died yesterday at the age of 80 in Boca Raton, Fla. Erhardt is the father of ESPN President of Customer Marketing & Sales ED ...<br>Sally Erhardt Knoche | |||
:::::Please post in this section next time. Thanks. Additionally, the source that you just posted is verifiable<ref>http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2012/03/22/People-and-Pop-Culture/Names.aspx?hl=erhardt%20died&sc=0</ref> but only for the fact that he died. If you want, post the exact URL of the page that mentions that you are his child, and I will check to see if that is verifiable. | |||
:::::{{reflist}} ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 02:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Korean translation == | |||
Hello Epic. Amazing user and talk page you have. I noticed you speak som Korean. Are you able to translate | |||
{{xtn|성범죄 피해자이기도 했던 한 탈퇴자는 "성상납 대기조 '상록수' 회원이 1천여 명에 이르며, 옥중에서도 미성년자를 포함한 여신도들을 관리하고 있다"고 폭로했다.}} for us? Or point me to a fellow editor who can? Thanks. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">] '']''</font> 20:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks. ] is a list of Wikipedians who speak Korean natively. Sorry, I only speak a little bit of Korean and may not be able to translate this correctly. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 20:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:By the way, where did you find this text? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 20:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::OK, thanks. The text is a quote from a source in ]. Do add it to your watchlist, if you will. It is one of those new religious movement articles that gets some very biased editing. We do have what I believe is a reliable translation of the whole newspaper article from which the quote stems. The COI/SPA editors however try to twist and turn every other little word and cast doubt about everything that is not according to their agenda. A second and third translation would be fine. Best, <font face="Eras Bold ITC">] '']''</font> 22:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Okay, I'll be sure to watchlist it. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 22:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Chelsea Manning == | |||
Please realize that ] says that trans women are supposed to be treated like women. Except in direct quotes, we're not supposed to use phrases implying that trans women were men (not only as opposed to women in general, but as opposed to women in the wrong body) before their bodies are corrected with surgery. ] (]) 01:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Please see your talk page, and note that I said "BEFORE she was a woman". The picture is NOT of a girl. Whether she is trans or not, Manning's picture's caption deserves to be correct. Thanks, ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::You're arguing that trans women whose bodies haven't been changed with surgeries yet are men. The phrase "Before she was a woman" uses the point of view that trans women actually '''were''' men (as opposed to women trapped in men's bodies) before their bodies are corrected with surgery. What did I get wrong?? ] (]) 01:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Well yes—she had male genitals. Therefore, her '''''sex''' was'' a man, before her sex reassignment. Her gender was always female. Gender is the person's decision about whether they want to be a man or a woman, whereas sex is whether the person has a penis or a vagina. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Misplaced Pages's manual of style says that gender is the correct way to decide which terms to use with transgender people. ] (]) 01:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::You're getting off topic here. The discussion was about the picture. I correctly stated that the picture was of Manning when her sex was male. It's not the other way around, where her gender is male, which we both know is not true. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::Now, which does ] say is the correct rule to use in determining when to use gender terms for people, gender or sex?? The answer is gender. "As a male" thus implies that Chelsea was a man at the time of the image, not only as opposed to a woman in general, but as opposed to a '''woman trapped in a man's body'''. Why do you deny this?? ] (]) 01:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Her '''''SEX''''' was male at the time of the picture. There is no denying that at the time, people did not know that she looked like a woman because she obviously didn't. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:25, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::According to Misplaced Pages:Manual of style, when are gender-specific terms supposed to be used to refer to sex rather than gender?? Please answer with the general category that your "as a male" phrase belongs to. ] (]) 01:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I really do not know what ] says about matters like this. Should we get some other editors' input on this discussion? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:29, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::Please read ]. ] (]) 01:31, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::Seriously? Now you are saying that she never was a male, despite the '''''apparent presence''''' of a penis on her body prior to August 2013? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::Correct. That's the educated way to think of a transgender woman. She was born with a male body, but she has always had her female brain. This is a trans woman's gender identity, and this is how Misplaced Pages is supposed to treat trans women. ] (]) 01:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::Are you kidding me? She was once a male physically, and that will always apply because she once had a penis. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::Also, stop ] people, as you did . ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::You should work for the olympics, identifying contestants' gender just be looking at them; it would be so much more efficient then the way they do it now. RS report this individual as a women, we must do the same. ] (]) 01:33, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Yep, that's the way I roll, people with penises are men and people with vaginas are women. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 01:48, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::I'm sure you don't mean to offend, but that last statement is demeaning to transgendered people. Gender and gender expression are not nearly as simple you propose. I encourage you to do a bit of research to understand the kind of discrimination and hate which transgendered people face. Once you educate yourself, I hope that you will demonstrate more sensitivity around issues which you do not understand. ] (]) 02:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::So, are you assuming that I am not educated? That's actually kind of obvious—the sex of a trans man whose gender is a woman, is not actually the sex of a woman until he/she gets female parts. ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 02:30, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::I apologize if I my assumption was incorrect. Perhaps you are being intentionally offensive. ] (]) 02:37, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::No, I am not being intentionally offensive. WHy would you think that? Do women have penises? ]<sup>(] • ])</sup> 02:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hey, Epicgenius! So here's the thing about dyk: if you haven't created preps, you have no idea what prep-setters and admins at dyk do or what challenges they face. Many editors who are regular nominators and reviewers think they'd be willing to admin, but have never filled preps, and when they become admins and start moving preps to queues, they quickly realize they didn't know what they were volunteering for. A prep-setter doesn't just create a balanced set. They also do a quick re-review on many of the hooks; you get to know whose hooks you don't have to review too heavily, but you always have to at least go check for a recent edit war or tags. If the nominator or the reviewer are new or known to be sloppy, you'll have to do a full re-review of that hook. Often prep-setters have questions they have to ask at the hook, and they deal with pushback from noms/reviewers/passersby for that. Then once you've finished a prep you have to deal with fallout at DYK talk and ERRORS. Admins do the exact same thing -- a re-review, because prep-setters miss things too, then the move (fairly simple), posting questions at DYK talk and pinging involved parties, dealing with pushback from them, and finally any fallout at ERRORS when someone finds an error you missed. So if you think you would be willing to admin at dyk, definitely go fill preps for a while to see if you like it or not. Some people love it -- I did, and I like adminning there -- but not everyone is cut out for it. It's a high-visibility job. People catch your mistakes, and the only way to prevent that is to catch other people's mistakes first. —valereee (talk) 15:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Valereee, thanks for the advice. That is good to know. I think this sort of stuff should be enjoyable for me, even if a bit difficult. I just read the project page on prep areas, and it seems a bit difficult to get a good balance on hooks. epicgenius (talk) 15:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- That's one of the most fun parts of setting preps. The thing to do for your first prep is pick the bottom empty set (which right now gives you three days to fill it but normally six days.) Count to figure out whether the image hook needs a bio or a non-bio (it alternates by day). Go find one, vet it, and transfer it. That'll let the other prep setters know you'll fill that set. Not that they or an admin won't move stuff in and out if they need it or think another set is better for that hook, but in general one prep-setter works on a set. Then start putting the puzzle together -- no more than four bios (alternating in the set with non-bio), no more than one music/science/military/whatever subject. Not too many from any one country, though 2 - 4 USA hooks will be necessary. A balance of geographical area, not all from English-speaking countries. A balance of long and short. And of course a quirky. It's an art. Don't be afraid to trim or tweak hooks, but read the nom first if you do, as there may have already been discussion. Keep on top of talk in case someone asks a question about one of the hooks in that set, because some people won't realize they need to ping you as the promoter. :) Ping me any time, and Yoninah will often leave pointers on how to improve at your talk. When she stops, you know you're getting near the point of competence. :) —valereee (talk) 15:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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Subway articles
Once again, very impressive work on very important station complex and line articles. There is more to be added about the change in BMT plans re:Canal Street. Eventually, Clark Street Tunnel should be its own article. Also, the citations for IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line are really messed up and include self-published sources like nycsubway.org, and there is more history that could be added. A lot of my older GA nominations should be looked at again for things like this. Also, for Union Square, it is worth mentioning the impromptu 9/11 memorial, and the post-2016 election post-it notes (https://mashable.com/article/power-of-post-it-note-protest-subway-therapy, https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/post-it-notes-left-union-square-election-preserved-article-1.2913344, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/12/19/post-election-subway-therapy-sticky-notes-taken-down-but-not-thrown-out/, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/nyregion/subway-election-therapy-wall-sticky-notes.html). Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Kew Gardens 613, the pleasure is mine. I do agree that the Clark Street Tunnel should get its own page in the future. I've also noticed that there's a lot more that can be said about the Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line, especially its construction, and will have to work on it gradually. The biggest mess, though, is the Canal Street article - there are a lot of details about the BMT station that are just not mentioned at the moment, and the article in general needs more refs.As for the Union Square station, the article already mentions both the 9/11 memorial and the post-it wall (the second paragraph of 14th Street–Union Square station#Artwork). I thought one paragraph would be sufficient, seeing as how the artwork was not sanctioned by the MTA but seems to be covered by multiple reliable sources. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- I fully agree. I missed it somehow. Don't forget the Stantec studies, like the one that found making Clark Street accessible was infeasible, and which provides some sourcing for station layout (i.e. platform length/width). Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:17, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- It also is probably worth mentioning the 1990 fire in the Clark Street article. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:30, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- I agree and can get around to that soon. In the meantime, I was looking at the study for Union Square, which says:
This technology does not meet ADA standards, and since there is currently no technology that does, there is no fully accessible solution for the southbound platform. We are including an option for providing elevator service to this platform in this report with the understanding that this will not provide a fully accessible solution at this time.
So I suppose this means the southbound platform can get an elevator, it just won't be ADA-accessible because gap fillers, by their very nature, are ADA-inaccessible. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC)- Yeah. Also, unrelated, but the 1990 Clark Street Tunnel fire was very notable, and there were major reports done on fire safety/communication, etc. in its aftermath. It would warrant an article of its own. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- I also think the 1990 Clark Street fire should get its own article. (I think the fire happened just east of the Clark Street station, though, not in the tunnel under the river.) In terms of recent NYC Subway disasters, the fire has had at least as much of an impact as the 1991 Union Square derailment or the 1995 Williamsburg Bridge subway collision did. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also-the provisions in the Eastern Parkway Line used for the Clark Street Tunnel connection were initially intended for a line over the Manhattan Bridge. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- That is interesting. If we can find a reliable source for this, I could add it to the Borough Hall or Eastern Parkway Line articles. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have seen reliable sources for this-if you cannot find them, I can look for them after I get my final paper for the semester done today. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- That is interesting. If we can find a reliable source for this, I could add it to the Borough Hall or Eastern Parkway Line articles. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also-the provisions in the Eastern Parkway Line used for the Clark Street Tunnel connection were initially intended for a line over the Manhattan Bridge. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- I also think the 1990 Clark Street fire should get its own article. (I think the fire happened just east of the Clark Street station, though, not in the tunnel under the river.) In terms of recent NYC Subway disasters, the fire has had at least as much of an impact as the 1991 Union Square derailment or the 1995 Williamsburg Bridge subway collision did. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah. Also, unrelated, but the 1990 Clark Street Tunnel fire was very notable, and there were major reports done on fire safety/communication, etc. in its aftermath. It would warrant an article of its own. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- I agree and can get around to that soon. In the meantime, I was looking at the study for Union Square, which says:
- It also is probably worth mentioning the 1990 fire in the Clark Street article. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:30, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- I started a draft Clark Street Tunnel article here: User:Kew Gardens 613/sandbox 7#Clark Street Tunnel. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:41, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Have you seen this article before? Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:53, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Kew Gardens 613, I have, but thanks for clipping it. The first part of that source seems to largely duplicate the New York Herald Tribune ref that's already in the Fulton Street station article. But it has some info that isn't mentioned in the NYHT source, specifically the 535-foot length of the station. The second part of the source could be used for the Broad Street station article though. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Outstanding work on the article. We really shouldn't be using The Station Reporter as a source. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- There is stuff to be added about flooding/water intrusion problems at Canal. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- There was a report put out. I found two articles I had clipped (https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-new-york-times/98305321/, https://www.newspapers.com/article/times-union/99774843/) Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. I've noticed quite a bit of info about how Canal Street's proximity to the old Collect Pond contributed to tons of water problems there. I can add these sources in later. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:04, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- It was a paper, not a report. I haven't found it online. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:14, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- I found it. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- This journal is a great source for construction details. I found one article with details on underpinning and other aspects of subway construction from 1919, one on sewer siphons, SI transportation, and Columbus Circle construction Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- That's very interesting. I might have to look through this journal to, um, shore up some architectural articles as well. That Canal Street article was really detailed, and I expect the others will be no different. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also one on train dispatching, the Manhattan Bridge Plaza, and the ENY tunnel Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for spamming here, but also Joralemon, and here, excavation, the Atlantic Av improvement, and Brighton Line improvements Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- No problem. I will just add all these links to a subsection of User:Epicgenius/sandbox/to do, where we can both track it easily. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for spamming here, but also Joralemon, and here, excavation, the Atlantic Av improvement, and Brighton Line improvements Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also one on train dispatching, the Manhattan Bridge Plaza, and the ENY tunnel Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Signaling, car design, and ventilation, and IRT track design as well Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- There is this thorough masterpiece on Dual Contracts construction. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 19:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- That's very interesting. I might have to look through this journal to, um, shore up some architectural articles as well. That Canal Street article was really detailed, and I expect the others will be no different. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- This journal is a great source for construction details. I found one article with details on underpinning and other aspects of subway construction from 1919, one on sewer siphons, SI transportation, and Columbus Circle construction Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- I found it. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- It was a paper, not a report. I haven't found it online. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:14, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- There is stuff to be added about flooding/water intrusion problems at Canal. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Outstanding work on the article. We really shouldn't be using The Station Reporter as a source. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Kew Gardens 613, I have, but thanks for clipping it. The first part of that source seems to largely duplicate the New York Herald Tribune ref that's already in the Fulton Street station article. But it has some info that isn't mentioned in the NYHT source, specifically the 535-foot length of the station. The second part of the source could be used for the Broad Street station article though. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Have you seen this article before? Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:53, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I fully agree. I missed it somehow. Don't forget the Stantec studies, like the one that found making Clark Street accessible was infeasible, and which provides some sourcing for station layout (i.e. platform length/width). Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:17, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Bumping thread for 30 days. Epicgenius (talk) 22:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Bumping thread for 60 days. Epicgenius (talk) 16:30, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Bumping thread for 360 days. Epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC) – Epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Kew Gardens 613, by the way, we might want to flesh out User:Epicgenius/sandbox/article-draft1, my sandbox on the Manhattan Bridge subway closure. I'm planning to bring the Manhattan Bridge article to GA, which will probably require condensing the Manhattan Bridge#Trackage history section, and the closures are a notable topic that I've been meaning to finish writing about for a while. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius I have been very busy, but, when I have a chance, will try to get back to this. Amazing work on all the bridge articles. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- The 2025-2029 Capital Program recently came out. Some articles may need to be updated to reflect this. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Updating the complex articles (since they are all extremely short)
1 World Trade Center
- Needs history section
- Needs design section, which I will write shortly
- Needs destruction section
- "List of tenants" may need to be split to a separate article due to length
- "92nd Floor" section needs removed and incorporated into above "Destruction" section
2 World Trade Center
- Needs history section
- Needs design section
- Needs destruction section
- Potentially needs rewrite, after reading it I spotted a few errors
3 World Trade Center
- Actually has a history section, but needs expanded
- Rewrite Destruction section
- May need a "design" section
4 World Trade Center
- Has history and destruction sections
- Both need expanded
- More images needed
5 World Trade Center
- Half of the article is about 9/11, meaning half of the article is about 1 day when the structure existed for 31 years
- Needs a design section
- Either the gallery section needs removed or expanded to comply with MOS, it's currently just 3 images chilling around
6 World Trade Center
7 World Trade Center
- Needs architecture section
- Needs more history pre-2001
- The destruction section may need to be summarized per WP:SUMSTYLE
I added the above subheaders just in case we need a list of things to do. :) Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Sir MemeGod: Thanks for starting this section. I might move this to User:Epicgenius/sandbox/to do when we're done figuring out what to do (since idk where else to put it). Epicgenius (talk) 16:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, Construction of the World Trade Center has some info about the Twin Towers' structural design, so we can copy some of the relevant info into these articles. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Tudor City
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Promotion of Merchant's House Museum
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Congratulations, and thank you today for 1 Wall Street, "about yet another building on Wall Street in New York City. This time, it's an office skyscraper that was built in 1929–1931 as a bank headquarters before being converted to residential use. The building has some notable architectural features including a curtain-like limestone facade, a polygonal red room with glittering mosaic tiles, and (originally) an executive lounge with a triple-height ceiling. Even the site, at the foot of Wall Street, was once deemed one of the most valuable sites worldwide. The structure may not be the tallest building in the area, or even on the street, but in my view at least, it's one of New York City's lesser-known Art Deco masterpieces."! - I have a Bach cantata on the same page (my story today): happy new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Gerda! Happy new year to you as well. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Re: Reviving Operation B&M
Hello again. I am pleased to inform you that Operation B&M will be ready for a "revival" starting on February 1, 2025. If you have any questions feel free to reach me on my talk page! Therguy10 (talk) 17:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message Wil540 art (talk) 14:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Wil540 art, and a happy new year to you as well. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
B13 Warning
Ewhite31 just gave me a warning that if the B13 page I just created does not have the necessary noteability, the page will be moved, redirected, or deleted. I want the page to stay, but I need your help. How can we improve the B13 page on Misplaced Pages to better meet its standards? Wikis6501 (talk) 15:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Wikis6501, I would suggest finding third-party sources, such as books or newspaper articles, that show that the bus route meets the general notability guideline (I don't think there is a subject-specific notability guideline here, since bus routes don't tend to be notable outside of major cities). The New York Times and the Brooklyn Public Library's archive of newspapers probably has some coverage of the B13 and its predecessors. There are also books about the BMT/BRT, but I don't know if they mention the B13 or its predecessors. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some of the content cannot be accessed without paying for it. Two of the bus pages that show evidence-lacking history have the tag “citation needed”, and that may have kept the pages from being redirected, so I’m going to add these tags. I live in a working-class family who does not want me to pay for what they think is unnecessary stuff. Where I was able to get evidence I cited it. Wikis6501 (talk) 17:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)