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== Judaean vs Jewish ==


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Judaean preserves more value of antiquity and is more contextually accurate Jewish is a modern ethnic why do you disagree with these valid facts? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:They are independent concepts. As far as I can tell, "Jewish" is what is supported by the sources. "Judaean" (probably misspelled) is not the same thing. — ] ] 08:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)


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they are not the same thing I have already gone over that the Romans called the land of Canaan as Judaea and called its inhabitants Judaeans and they later annexed Judaea Lebanon and Syria into one big province called ] where the name Palestine comes from please revert it back I will keep trying to revert it as it is more accurate ] ] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 08:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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I notice you recently reverted an edit to remove an important caveat that appears in the source from the article. Articles should not really say more than the source. grateful if you could explain the revertion on talk. Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:My recollection is that the source didn't have that caveat, but said it in the same voice as there is '''no''' evidence that Morgellon's is not DP. If I'm wrong, I apologize. — ] ] 16:18, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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== Plasma cosmology ==

Arthur, I have no interest in the subject of ], but a newbie is trying to delete large portions of the article. I have commented on the talk page and left warnings on their talk page. -- ] (]) 01:07, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:A newbie obviously created the original article in the first place. I am going to replace it - completely. The Plasma Cosmology page should be about Plasma Cosmology. The current article is little more than the culmination of topic hijacking. It reads more like an article about the triumph of the Big Bang Theory than an article about Plasma Cosmology. It will be replaced - period. I hope you will approve of my changes. I plan to remove every reference to other models and focus solely on Plasma Cosmology. If you have no interest in the topic, then keep your hands off. Critics are not authorities. Advocates are not authorities. I will present a neutral article that deals solely with Plasma Cosmology. Furthermore BullRangifer, your ] will not be tolerated. ] 21:43, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

:: Coming from a newbie, that's pretty strong language which reveals a lack of understanding of how Misplaced Pages works. I've been patient with you. I could have already had you blocked for edit warring. Your attitude is what we call ] in other words you are not learning from much more experienced editors, even though they have left you warnings, advice, and links to more information. We don't completely rewrite articles here. You don't own the article. It belongs to all editors, and you should show some respect for those who have put time into its creation.

:: We do want article improvement, so small increments are good for a start, considering you're a newbie. Right now you seem to have no sense of the situation. To illustrate, it's like you're wading into someone else's living room and demanding that they operate their home according to the rules which you use at your home. You're demanding they throw out all their pictures and rearrange their furniture because you don't like it, but you don't know WHY they have arranged their home the way it is. Maybe there is a reason. After all, the rules for interior decorating in their home (Misplaced Pages) are FAR different from the rules in your home (your website or blog). The rules are totally different here, and if you don't learn them and listen to what we're telling you, you will end up getting blocked. It's that simple. We are very long suffering with newbies, but when they don't listen and learn, we simply get rid of them. Now show a bit of humility and start asking questions instead of making demands.

:: Let me introduce you to whom you're dealing with right now: Arthur a very distinguished mathematician in real life and is an administrator here (sysop, 89588 edits since: 2005-08-15). I am a Physical Therapist (with a Physician Assistant education besides that) and an ordinary editor who does not wish to be an administrator (autoreviewer, reviewer, rollbacker, 40068 edits since: 2005-12-18). We are both experienced enough to help you, if you'll allow it. Since you will never be allowed to edit alone here, without other editors having a right to watch your every move, comment on your talk page (you do not own it), and revert your edits when there are ANY disagreements, you'd better get used to working with others. Communication and ] are valued here. That's how we work.

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:: You also need to remember to use edit summaries for every edit and comment, use the edit history to check for edit summaries before making edits, sign your edits properly (using four tildes ('''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'''), etc.. I'm going to leave a welcome template at the top of your talk page. It has lots of good links to help you get up to speed. Read them very carefully before proceeding. I will also leave a modified copy of this message, just for the record. -- ] (]) 23:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

== Dash grammar ==

At ], could you elaborate on the “different grammatical meaning” that you think spaced en dashes have? No one there seems to be aware of it. Thanks. —] (]) 18:16, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

== Requesting edits ==

Hi, Arthur. I'm not sure what your intentions were with , but I want to make sure you know that asking another editor to make changes in an area where you are topic banned is a fast track to trouble for both you and them, as explained at ]. As far as I can tell, Arzel hasn't acted on this, and hopefully he won't. If he doesn't act and I don't see any more such requests from you, I will let the matter rest with this reminder. --] (]) 21:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:You're probably correct. However, the first point is just an error on the person's part. This relates to a clarification request I made which was ignored; if '''A''' really isn't related to the TPm, then the '''letter''' of my topic ban would allow me to remove the false statement that he is, but it would violate the spirit of my ban. — ] ] 03:11, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
::The "spirit" of all topic bans is to encourage otherwise productive editors to stay away from topics where they get into unproductive disputes. There are literally millions of pages on Misplaced Pages that don't have any plausible association with the topic ban, so why do you need to be editing at ] or worrying about the naming and use of TPM categories? This is a good time to pursue an interest in articles about horticulture or basketball or model ships or 19th-century British theater or physics or whatever, so that no one can question that you are faithfully following the spirit. --] (]) 16:34, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

== Re: Santilli ==

:''I wouldn't bet that the comments aren't serious.''

I read his comments and his website, and I got '']''-like vibe from them. Then again, I also got batshit crazy vibe as well. It's hard to say if he is doing this just to piss people off or if he really is insane. Might be both. ] (]) 04:19, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks to the nth degree ==

I just noted in my watchlist your apparently exhaustive efforts to reign in the IP sock factory. I am, quite simply, in utter awe, Arthur. I don't know much approbation you get from Wikipedians, but I can state unequivocally that it simply is nowhere near enough. Tracking a creep over two years would make me lose all my faith in humanity, and yet, you still appear to be generous, articulate and detail-oriented. Thank you ever so much for helping to make Misplaced Pages a place where I can edit with a minimum of interaction with sock-puppets. You are a mensch, sir. - ] (]) 18:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

== RSN ==

As I don't want to drag the discussion off-topic, I'll post a comment I nearly put there here.

:"I would hope that proven errors should be relevant to whether a source is WP:RS."... well I don't want to drag the discussion off-topic, but cf ], where a 1991 '']'' article knowingly including a false claim on a key issue (per ], who was there, and called it "the most dishonest thing in journalism" he'd ever seen, or words to that effect) continued to be merrily cited as a reliable source. In general, actual error (even deliberate error, on the rare occasion that is proven) seems irrelevant to "RSness", at least for things published by mainstream media organisations with editorial oversight. ] (]) 11:09, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


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Hello there, dear sir. I would like to inform you that there is no need to have removed my edit to the year 1993. The edit that I made to this page is a relevant edit. If you were to have read the page, you would have known that the actress who I edited onto the page was born in 1993, so technically it is relevant information. If you see this, please take note. Thank you, The Editor.

P.S. My account is both more than 4 days old and I have made more than 10 edits, so there is no real need to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Impishfont (talk • contribs) 23:11, November 25, 2019 (UTC)

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