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== AE request concerning Lecen ==


==Hello, stranger!==
Hi, after you remarked on an apparent interaction ban violation by Lecen at ], an enforcement request was made at ]. Could you comment at ] on whether this request should be processed by administrators or whether problematic conduct in arbitration fora should be left for arbitrators or clerks to address? Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:16, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Arcticocean,


No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.
: {{ping|Sandstein}} I have commented there. Thanks, ] ]] 17:23, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
== Applicability of the 2013 DS review ==


:You might want to change the target page for the redirect on ]. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I'm still trying to figure out this business of discretionary sanctions warnings. You confirmed to me that the warning is for misconduct. An administrator cited the ] under "Draft v2", seemingly suggesting that the warning is no longer for misconduct. Does the draft apply presently?
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== Editor experience invitation ==


Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in ]? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. ] ] 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
This is enormously confusing and I am only trying to understand what is going on. If in the near future all such warnings will be grandfathered in as informational "alerts" issuable by non-admins (as noted in the last section of the draft), then there would seem to be no long-term damage to my having received a warning by mistake. ] (]) 22:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
==Welcome back==


Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this ] for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work!<span id="Saqib:1730576685561:User_talkFTTCLNArcticocean" class="FTTCmt"> — ] (] I ]) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</span>
: As a draft, it is not presently in effect. After adoption of the draft, I believe warnings given under the old (that is, our current) system will be treated as both alerts and warnings under the new system. ] ]] 23:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


:: Thanks for the fast reply. So it looks like there are repercussions. If a person has ample evidence showing that he/she was improperly issued the discretionary sanctions warning, and the admin that issued it has refused to discuss the matter, then what should that person do? ] (]) 23:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC) :Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. ] 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)


== Nomination for deletion of ] ==
::: Under the current system, they can do nothing. Under the new system, they will be able to appeal the warning as if it is a sanction; but if that appeal is successful, they will still be considered to have been "Alerted" in the sense used by the new draft. Is that clear? ] ]] 23:29, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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:Thanks for noticing this. We created this template as part of a drive to refresh the WikiProject, but the planned use of the template did not materialise. I have now tagged it for speedy deletion: the deletion is clear-cut and does not necessarily require a TfD. Thanks again, ] 12:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::: Is there an expected time for when the new system will be in effect? Can a warning issued in the old system be appealed in the new system? ] (]) 23:51, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


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I need to ask at this point if you would like for me to add more evidence given the growing number of external and internal links being added to the page by the involved parties. Is whats being added good enough for arbcom purposes, or should I role up my sleeves and dig into the archives such as it were? ] (]) 07:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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== Alt account ==
: {{ping|TomStar81}} I think the other parties' statements have given us enough to go on. Thanks, ] ]] 20:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. I'd make one suggestion though: consider renaming the case when you accept it. I named it "Ottoman Empire / Turkish naming dispute", but its grown increasingly apparent that there is far more at work here then just the name of the nation. While I would stop short of renaming it "Everyone v RoslynSKP", I think a case name like "RoslynSKP consensus and civility issues" would more accurately reflect the issues our editors seem to be presenting. Otherwise, I'll leave this in your hands. ] (]) 00:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
::: Thanks for your comments. I'll raise the case title for discussion on the list. ] ]] 00:10, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


Hey. Is actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, ] (]) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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There is a serious backlog of about 20K individual IPs that are blocked without expiration. I have broken the IPs into groups of 5000: ]. So they are effectively blocked until time ends. This creates considerable potential collateral damage as the owners of IPs tend to be not very consistent. Some of these IPs are on dynamic ranges which results in arbitrary blocks of good users. Vast majority of the blocks go back years all the way to 2004 - some were preemptively blocked. Nowadays even open proxies normally do not get indefinite blocks.

The problem is that no single admin wants to review this many IPs and very few have the technical capability to review. Such a technical review would be non-trivial for individual IPs which in my humble opinion would be a complete waste of time. I feel ArbCom could step in and provide criteria for bulk action. A bulk unblock of all indefinite blocks (with exceptions if the specific single IP unblocks are contested) before - say - 2010 would be a good start.

Open proxies tend to be better handled at meta as open proxies are a global problem for all wikis.

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That having been said I thank you for your reply on the matter, and since this is my first arbcom case I will keep in mind that parties must be explicitly named in the case in order to be considered filing members. Should the need arise for me to do this again I will endeavor not to make this mistake twice. ] (]) 01:17, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

: You're very gracious, but there is no need: this sort of mistake is very easily fixed! Thank you, ] ]] 12:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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Can I have a time extension as there are only two hours left, to make use of it? --] (]) 21:59, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, stranger!

Hi, Arcticocean,

No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.

Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, Liz 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

You might want to change the target page for the redirect on User:Arcticocean. Liz 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, the archive bot had buried your message away. I've just restored it.
And stay away from noticeboards – was better advice ever given to a Misplaced Pages editor? :) arcticocean ■ 13:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 2010 Shanghai fire

2010 Shanghai fire has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:33, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation

Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in participating here? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this PROMO AUTOBIO for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. arcticocean 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WPCGR/Backlog

Template:WPCGR/Backlog has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing this. We created this template as part of a drive to refresh the WikiProject, but the planned use of the template did not materialise. I have now tagged it for speedy deletion: the deletion is clear-cut and does not necessarily require a TfD. Thanks again, arcticocean ■ 12:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Alt account

Hey. Is this actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. Spicy (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. Better safe than sorry! arcticocean ■ 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, DaniloDaysOfOurLives! arcticocean ■ 17:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)