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For use of profanity I am asking that you don't harass me on my talk page again. You no longer have permission to post on my talk page. The exchange is recorded below for the record. Have a nice day. -] (]) 16:04, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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:Use profanity on my page again and you will lose the privilege and courtesy of using my talk page. You have been warned. Your summary removal of 4,000+b of content that has been there for some time and added by established editors without first discussing and gaining consensus on talk is inappropriate. Please don't vandalize the page. Please be civil. Please get consensus on the talk.-] (]) 15:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
::Enough warnings. Start a thread about my vandalism or STFU. &mdash; ] 15:57, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
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Also, perhaps I was a bit harsh in my reaction to your "plain English style on my talk." In good faith, feel free to use my talk page if you need.-] (]) 21:48, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

==Edit summary==
Hi Goethean. The "such as yourself" portion of your edit summary moved it into being a personal remark about an editor mentioned at ]. I looked over your recent edit summaries and do no see them as a as concern, but please try to not use words such as "you", "your", "yourself" in edit summaries. It tends to alienate editors or put them in a defensive/offensive position. Thanks. -- ] (]) 14:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

:Administrators should be more concerned about article content that flagrantly violates Misplaced Pages core policy, and has so for months and months, than about an unladylike edit summary. &mdash; ] 16:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

== When reverting ==

It really helps to see why the edit was made. I fear MilesMoney might have made his revert ''not'' based on looking at the reason for removal of a duplicated wikilink which was inserted contrary to policy ("see also" is not intended to duplicate links), but on his seeking to follow my edits :( and seeing what he thought was a neat opportunity to simply annoy me. Cheers. ] (]) 14:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:I don't really have anything to say to you. &mdash; ] 14:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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== How things will go down ==

Your methods are not working. Currently there are several very experienced editors trying to figure out a solution to the problems on that article. Responding to almost every post with a confrontational attitude, even if you are right, is degrading the flow of the conversation and the quality of communication.

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# The article will not have been improved.

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It is not about what is Right, or True, or Just. It is about improving this Encyclopedia and nothing else. Please take some time to evaluate the options before you choose your path. {{mdash}} ] (]) 18:30, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

:Okay. We'll see. &mdash; ] 18:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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