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	== False categorization in attachment styles ==
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	The current '''Attachment styles''' section reads (to me at least) like it was based on a study that started out with three expected results and worked hard to verify them. It jumped out at me because I apparently belong to a fourth category that isn't listed, which for want of a better term I'll call "Unanxious insecure attachment". I've never been particularly attached to my mother (or any family member or friend), and, based on reports from my parents and elder relatives, was that way even as a small child. Nor am I the only one like this. I have a friend whose younger son is so detached from his nevertheless devoted mother that she, trying to understand his detachment even at 3 years old, once watched him (by covertly following him as he wandered off) calmly explore the length of an entire mall before her protective instincts overcame her need to understand her unusual child. (I'd had virtually no contact with this family, so he couldn't have gotten it from me, which also leads me to suspect this characteristic, while it may be uncommon, is far from rare.) I imagine that if either I (as a child) or my friend's child had participated in the study, we would have shown little distinction in exploration behavior regardless of who, if anyone, was in the room, as we both would have been far too self-involved. (Don't bother with the cracks; I freely admit my own asocial behavior.)
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	Nor was this the only categorical omission I noticed. Surely one might expect a few children to demonstrate no particular anxiety when a parent left a room, but still give indications that they were quite attached to their mothers. (Perhaps this would be "Secure attachment but detachable", or "Ultra-secure attachment"? I'm not trying to be funny, but it's hard to expand on these arbitrarily narrow terms.) Or was expression of separation anxiety the sole factor considered to demonstrate attachment? If so, it seems rather inadequate and misleadingly narrow.
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	I've neither done nor read any research that allows me to accurately edit this section to remove any ]. But one example that doesn't fit a categorization is enough to invalidate such false spectrum coverage, and I seriously doubt that either of the two others I mentioned is particularly rare, or that I haven't missed more alternatives. Is there someone who can discuss the failure of this section to address a more broad understanding of parental attachment? Does this truly represent the "state of the art" of developmental psychology? — ] 04:47, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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	:Attachment Theory isn't the same thing as "feeling attached." You sound pretty secure to me, prossibly a bit on the avoidant side (this is my non-expert opinion). Also, it depends on how old you are. The Strange Situation only applies to very young children (1-2 years old or so). After that point, you cannot use the Srange Situation as a method of measurement for attachment. I would suggest finding someone to give you the AAI (see below) if you are really interested in your catagory of attachment. As far as children who don't care when their mother leaves, that is an indication of an avoidant child, but the child could still show secure attachment in other ways. Thus making them Secure-Avoident. No child (or adult for that matter) falls into exactly one catagory 100%. The catagories are not there to classify people into boxes, they are there to provide endpoints on a spectrum. People can be Secure and show Avoidant or Anxious tendencies. If you have insight or questions, I would suggest looking up a local Psychology professor and asking if they can answer your questions or point you to someone who can. Interesting post, I would like to hear what becomes of it --] 22:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
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	:<b>Attachment styles are well-established in current scientific literature.</b> Attachment styles are theoretical constructs that have been tested by different research groups in independent studies. People who have different attachment styles (as determined by standardized measurements) tend to respond differently on various other relationship factors. The fact that many studies by different researchers have found reliable patterns in attachment style correlations undermines claims of false categorization. At the same time, researchers have started to see attachment in terms of two dimensions: a dimension of anxiety about a relationship, and a dimension of avoidance within a relationship. Although you can still classify four attachment styles (high anxiety/high avoidance, high anxiety/low avoidance, low anxiety/high avoidance, low anxiety/low avoidance), many researchers simply use the measures of the two dimensions directly to correlate with other factors and test hypotheses. The section could make mention of this shift, but this would actually end up a fairly minor modification of the section. If anyone would like to know their attachment style, here's the actual questionnaire used in scientific studies: http://www.web-research-design.net/cgi-bin/crq/crq.pl ]
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			== Section 4 "Attachment styles in adults" citation & reference problems ==
	This page looks well structured to me. What is lacking in the page (as far as structure)?
	:there are hardly any wikilinks. there is room for lots in a 2 page article ] ] 20:46, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

			Hi all,
	== Attachment As Drive Fulfilment ==

			I'm concerned about some of the citations (or lack thereof) in section 4, (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Attachment_theory#Attachment_styles_in_adults). There are several issues with the citations in this section:
	This quote, "Attachment theory assumes that humans are social beings; they do not just use other people to satisfy their drives", is surley incorrect.

			1. There are uncited passages throughout the section that editorialize about the relationship between adult attachment styles and romantic relationships;
	Standard Behaviourist school of thought on attachment theory rests solely on the mothers ability to satisfy the child's hunger, and Freud identified this and sexual fulfilment.

			2. many citations for descriptions of cognitive & social phenomena do not reference peer-reviewed academic material, but popular and 'grey' literature (e.g. nos. 93 & 95, possibly 94); and
	Unfortunatley, I do not have a knowledge of copyright laws, so I cannot quote at the moment, but the author of the page must surley be mistaken.

			3. some citations are written in parenthetical format, not in standard hyperlinked footnotes.
	*The concept of attachment theory requires reconstitution in light of the following:
	*Dependence Drive
	*Behavioral dependence is regarded as a drive with bimodal expression wherein the primary expression by the neonate elicits the secondary expression from the parent/caregiver.

			To address these issues, I propose:
	Dependence thus described is regarded as a drive due to the behavioral nature and the historicaly ancient and evolutionarily significant influence of the relevant activities. The drive should be regarded as nonhomeostatic in the same sense that sexual drive is but also as quixotic due to the mortal needs of the neonate. The evolutionary influence can be characterized as, the period of infantile, juevenile dependence can not exceed the capability of the parental response. This creates a dynamic which acts to both extend and curtail the duration of the primary dependence period.

			1. That uncited passages be immediately removed;
	Further, there should be a distinction made between the motivations of dependence attachments and attachments of mate selection or competitive sexual selection as well as incorporating the unique qualities of human competitive selection. Wherein, congregation for competitive selection evolved into congregation as competitive selection. All traits conducive to congregation (i.e. socialization/enculturation) thus become subject to the evolutionary influence of competitive selection. Therefore, the period of primary enculturation (psycho sexual stages) is a competitive process within the gestalt of the species and operates in close conjunction with the period of primary dependence. As these two motivations are not congruent and are somewhat incompatible, certain maladies can arise.

			2. references to non-peer-reviewed accounts of cognitive & social psychological phenomena be removed, their respective sections revised, and these descriptions replaced with rigorous, scholarly accounts of these complex human behaviors; and
	== Disorganized Attachment ==
	I think this subsection needs to be reworded or clarified. Maybe it's just me, but that section sounds like it's either too profound for my humble self to understand or it's complete B.S. The explanations of the other attachment types seem adequate though. -- ] 06:58, 14 December 2005

			3. citations be standardized according to the (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Citing_sources).
	It seems reasonable to me, Disorganized Attachment is a quirky thing. The description is very technical in nature and could probably be simplified to be understood by someone without a good deal of background in attachment theory :-P --] 22:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

			Doing so will improve both the content of the section and its legibility; in turn, these revisions will help bring the article up to the (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Citing_sources). ] (]) 14:44, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
	== Looks good to me ==

			:Yes! Thank you. Also the academic references that are cited are 30+ years old and need to be updated. ] (]) 03:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
	As a student of attachment theory i believe this page is well structured. However, I agree that the section about the sociality of humans needs to be changed. Bowlby specifically emphasized the idea of attachment as a homeostatic system where we use both our innate psychological abilities and physical abilities to gain proximity to our primary caregiver's. In many cases, this primary caregiver is our mother and essentially all of what we do as a young infant is keep her close to us so that we can feel a sense of security which in turn will allow us the mental freedom to explore the world. Popular wording for this is called the safe haven that is created by our caregivers. However, this safe haven is two fold; on the one hand, the safe haven is there to provide us with the sense of security needed to explore and on the other hand, it is necessary for the safe haven to act as a secure base by which we can rely on if we venture out too far into the real world and find ourselves in unfamiliar territory. I belive that there should be a link to some more recent research called the Circle of Security experiment that is being conducted in Seattle, Washington.
			:I agree, this section needs to be reworked with better citations and less vague language. I'm going to be slowly working specifically on the dismissive-avoidant section (which in my opinion is in the most dire need of complete revision), open to any and all help/input. ] (]) 14:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
			:Agreed. This sections seems to be influenced by the recent pop-psychology interest in attachment styles. While popular interest in the topic is welcomed, this page inherits some simplifications from that perspective. Most importantly, it takes a deficit-model approach. This both fails to reflect the actual theory and can be harmful to lay-people hoping to learn about themselves.
			:Is there a way to add a banner to this section noting the lack of citations to readers? ] (]) 00:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Also, i believe that the attachment classifications listed are correct. There are no false classifications present as was suggested in an earlier disccussion posting. Just because you don't believe your attachment pattern is present doesn't mean you can't fall under one of those categories. Granted, recently, there has been a push to expand the categories of attachment classification; however, there is good evidence that this would result in an over diagnosis of poor attachment as there is a fine line between functionally secure attachment and poor attachment.
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	:One note, a couple of the classification listed (anxious and avoidant) are usually associated with childhood attachment. In adults, these are referred to as Preoccupied and Dismissive (respectively). --] 14:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
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	::Researchers have started to see attachment in terms of two dimensions: a dimension of anxiety about a relationship, and a dimension of avoidance within a relationship. Although you can still classify four attachment styles (high anxiety/high avoidance, high anxiety/low avoidance, low anxiety/high avoidance, low anxiety/low avoidance), many researchers simply use the measures of the two dimensions directly to correlate with other factors and test hypotheses. The section could make mention of this shift, but this would actually end up a fairly minor modification of the section. Not anything of pressing urgency. ]

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	== Adult Attachment Interview ==
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	Currently there is no information on this page concerning techniques for measuring attachment in adults. The Adult Attachment Interview is one such example. I am not an expert on the subject and it is a bit much for me to tackle, I think it is a noticable gap. --] 22:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

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	:This study might help some: (warning PDF file). It measures ''attachment anxiety'' and ''attachment avoidance'' with "self-report adult attachment instruments" (questionnaires). --] 15:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

			== Crime Section Additions ==
	:If anyone would like to know their attachment style, here's the actual questionnaire developed by Shaver and colleagues and used in scientific studies: http://www.web-research-design.net/cgi-bin/crq/crq.pl ]

			Added paragraph titled "Uses Within Probation Practice" under Crime. ] (]) 00:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
	==Adults==
	Misplaced Pages needs some better coverage about the '''adult''' aspects of ''attachment''. It would take some time for me to figure out what to suggest though. Articles like ] have aspects of ''attachment avoidance'' in them, so any such project would likely need a lot of rethinking. --] 15:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

			== Missing verb? ==
	:If I'm interpreting any of this wrong, please let me know, as I have not read the books on "love-shyness". --] 20:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

			This sentence - "When it comes to the opinions of others about themselves, they are very indifferent and are relatively hesitant to positive feedback from their peers." - reads like it should have a verb between "to" and "positive", like "to accept positive feedback". Maybe that's clarified in the reference, which I don't have access to. ] (]) 02:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
	:How does this relate to ]? --] 23:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

	:I agree. There has been a lot of research on attachment in adult romantic relationships. It would be interesting to know, for example, how it relates to outcome variables such as relationship duration and relationship satisfaction. It would interesting to know how attachment relates to jealousy, support, and intimacy (there are studies out there on these very issues). There are also gender differences in attachment that people in relationships might find interesting. ]

	==Citation==
	I think a citation providiing a reference for the "some think are cruel" recent addition would be useful. What do others think?
	] 16:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

	==Attachment Measures==
	The topic of attachment measures really deserves its own section. I removed some of the material I put in on the Shaver questionnaire because it did seem imbalanced to talk only about one method. I'll come back after I finish work on some other Misplaced Pages articles and, if someone hasn't already done it, create a section that deals with attachment measures. ]

	::I agree with that. I will add citations for the Adult Attachment Interview. ] 11:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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Section 4 "Attachment styles in adults" citation & reference problems

Hi all,

I'm concerned about some of the citations (or lack thereof) in section 4, (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Attachment_theory#Attachment_styles_in_adults). There are several issues with the citations in this section:

1. There are uncited passages throughout the section that editorialize about the relationship between adult attachment styles and romantic relationships;

2. many citations for descriptions of cognitive & social phenomena do not reference peer-reviewed academic material, but popular and 'grey' literature (e.g. nos. 93 & 95, possibly 94); and

3. some citations are written in parenthetical format, not in standard hyperlinked footnotes.

To address these issues, I propose:

1. That uncited passages be immediately removed;

2. references to non-peer-reviewed accounts of cognitive & social psychological phenomena be removed, their respective sections revised, and these descriptions replaced with rigorous, scholarly accounts of these complex human behaviors; and

3. citations be standardized according to the (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Citing_sources).

Doing so will improve both the content of the section and its legibility; in turn, these revisions will help bring the article up to the (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Citing_sources). 173.230.164.4 (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you. Also the academic references that are cited are 30+ years old and need to be updated. Wackthedrums (talk) 03:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree, this section needs to be reworked with better citations and less vague language. I'm going to be slowly working specifically on the dismissive-avoidant section (which in my opinion is in the most dire need of complete revision), open to any and all help/input. RosieTime (talk) 14:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. This sections seems to be influenced by the recent pop-psychology interest in attachment styles. While popular interest in the topic is welcomed, this page inherits some simplifications from that perspective. Most importantly, it takes a deficit-model approach. This both fails to reflect the actual theory and can be harmful to lay-people hoping to learn about themselves.

Is there a way to add a banner to this section noting the lack of citations to readers? TooManyFunFacts (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Missing verb?

This sentence - "When it comes to the opinions of others about themselves, they are very indifferent and are relatively hesitant to positive feedback from their peers." - reads like it should have a verb between "to" and "positive", like "to accept positive feedback". Maybe that's clarified in the reference, which I don't have access to. WilbaAtWikipedia (talk) 02:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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