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| Per the ], and I hate having to do this, but you are hereby subject to the following: | |||
| {{quote|{{user|Darkness Shines}} is indefinitely banned from editing Misplaced Pages. They may appeal the ban either to the community or to ArbCom no sooner than after 6 months from the ban, or 6 months from their last sockpuppeting, whichever comes later.}} | |||
| Only one source is Tagged, not any other, you simply reverted back to the favorite version of Single purpose account, without explaining much. | |||
| Good luck.—] <span style="font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 00:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| :Where was the socking? I didn’t see it posted in the discussion. ] (]) 01:48, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{ping|Mr Ernie}} Although it wasn't mentioned in the discussion afaik, sockpuppetry was the reason for DS's first indef, per . An SPI can be found ]... not to mention made about a month ago. {{tps}} ]] 03:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| No worries ] (]) 22:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == FYI you were obliquely mentioned == | |||
| :Do me a favour, DS. Don't sock from now on. Your style is very obvious and it won't do you or the project any favours. The sad thing is, you've usually been correct in what you've tried to do with articles but you react even worse than me when you get frustrated with the idiots etc. This can be a frustrating place because it is biassed in many systemic ways but you won't change anything if you can't take part. | |||
| FYI, I made reference to the AFD "filing party" as an edit warrior, without naming names, but of course I meant you. The mention is I'm not seeking any action against you specifically, just wanting the process to work without shortcutting. ] (]) 22:11, 6 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Bide your time, perhaps spend it doing some research, and if/when you do decide to return perhaps start on some surely uncontroversial issues where the pov-pushers are unlikely to have an interest. I vaguely recall you helping me many years ago in trying to clean up a fairly marginal notability/promotional article about a herd of pedigree cows - surely even the SJWs or whatever cannot find harm in that sort of thing? - ] (]) 00:36, 22 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::Some sort of open sockpuppetry? A new trend on Misplaced Pages? -]] <small> 04:45, 22 February 2018 (UTC).</small><br /> | |||
| == François Ponchaud == | |||
| :*+1 to what Sitush said. You've done good work here, and could continue to do, but only if you wait out the terms of this ban. Do some research, prepare some things you'd like to write, go on holiday, learn Spanish, whatever. Don't sock; you'll be discovered and blocked in no time, the appeal period will be reset, and anything you've written is likely to be reverted with no regard for its quality. To be clear, I'm not saying socking would be justified if it went undiscovered, not at all. I'm saying it won't do you any good to try. ] (]) 06:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :*+2. I think I came up with a nice way to keep useful idiots like you within the system but it looks like we have a preference for polite POV pushers. C'est la vie. --] <small>(])</small> 23:56, 23 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | Asked Arbcom if there were any chance of being unblocked, they have said no and ask again in a year, as I can't see that happening this is the end, thanks to all. ] (]) 07:24, 24 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
| : So long, DS. Future is future. Who knows what it will bring? Let us hope for better times! -- ] (]) 11:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC) | |||
| : Farewell - we wish you the very best of luck of your future careers. | |||
| ] Hello! Your submission of ] at the ] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath ''']''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> ] (]) 02:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| JG | |||
| == You should not be surprised == | |||
| ⚫ | ] (]) 09:10, 6 December 2018 (UTC) | ||
| You should not be surprised. There was zero chance that it would be deleted. There may be no cabel, but if there were this one would be so deeply entrenched as to be impossible to break. ] (]) 02:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Convince me without histrionics but with logic and discussion of the content of RSs that the list criteria are original research, and I'll switch to "delete". ] (]) 06:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::@NEAG. I went back and looked at the history of the definition and you guys made it up! End of story. There are no reliable sources talking about it. On top of that your group defined what is considered a scientist. Now if that is not "logical" enough for you than that is your problem. ] (]) 14:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::If you want a reply, speak at the article talk page. You might even convince me, but diff-less accusatory bludgeoning won't work. ] (]) 15:42, 8 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Precious anniversary == | |||
| == Your edit-warring == | |||
| {{User QAIbox/auto|years=Seven}} | |||
| miss you ... today is the birthday of ] and ], ? --] (]) 07:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
| Hello. In the course of closing the recent AfD concerning {{la|List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming}}, I noticed that you have recently, on 30 December 2013, engaged in an edit-war in which you sought to suppress all of the content of the list, after nominating it for deletion, to wit: | |||
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| The article was then protected following a , ending the revert war. As you are aware, the topic area is subject to discretionary sanctions (]), and ]. | |||
| miss you still --] (]) 07:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
| You contend in your edit summaries that your content removals were based on ]. However, it appears that your interpretation of the BLP policy as applying to this article is contested, and the ] did not result in consensus that the article's contents do in fact violate that policy. Per ], "what counts as exempt under BLP can be controversial. Consider reporting to the BLP noticeboard instead of relying on this exemption." Your recourse to edit-warring, against multiple good-faith editors, to suppress the content that you consider to violate ] strikes me as particularly inappropriate because you did so while a deletion discussion which you initiated was underway, which would have been the appropriate forum in which to find a consensus-based solution to the question of whether or not this list violates the BLP policy. By attempting to ram through your preferred outcome of the deletion discussion by way of edit-warring, you violated the principle that Misplaced Pages content is determined by consensus, and the edit-warring policy. | |||
| ==Checkuser== | |||
| For these reasons, I consider imposing discretionary sanctions against you to prevent you from repeating such actions. You now have the opportunity to respond to this and to make an argument why I should not do so, or any other statement that might help resolve this problem. Regards, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 09:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| I noticed I have been accused of socking, I have not been and am logging in and posting so CU have recent date. ] (]) 14:29, 18 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :BTW, look I am not the only editor who is saying there are BLP violations in the article. ] (]) 11:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Yeah, that was me, sorry. 17:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC) ( hillbillyholiday at gmail dot com ) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I know, I saw your post on Wikipediocracy, please stop making up usernames which sound like mine. ] (]) 17:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
| == your situation == | |||
| It is now three years since you applied to ArbCom for a release of your ban. As you know,Have you given thought to applying again? I have no authority to undo thr ban, (as you know), but i do recall a number of positive interactions between us, and would be hapy to support any application that you might choose to make. ----]<sup>]</sup> 20:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi {{ping|Anthony Bradbury}}, I requested a review of the ban in March which the arbitration committee has declined. They have said I must wait a further twelve months before another appeal can be made, I appreciate the support but the only options are Arbcom, who have refused twice, an appeal to the community who for the most part voted to ban me. Perhaps one day I will be allowed back to the project. Take care. ] (]) 17:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :: Nice to hear you whatever you say. ] ... - ] --] (]) 19:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
| == Request to the community == | |||
| It has now been four years since the community voted to ban me from Misplaced Pages. For the last two years I requested of the arbitration committee that I be allowed to edit again. However given it was Wikipedias editors who decided I had become a net negative, I believe it is those editors who I ought to need to appeal to. I fully admit to being short of temper, frequently drunk, and quite often profane to the extreme. But that was four years ago, and I have changed for the better. I no longer drink to excess . I am far calmer and not prone to losing my temper as I used to, perhaps because I drink far less, or maybe I've just gotten calmer with age. So I'm asking the community if they would allow me the privilege of editing again, should anyone have questions for me please feel free to post here. If someone would be so kind as to copy paste this to where a majority of editors will see it I'd be grateful. Thanks ¬¬¬¬ | |||
| :I have one, why is this so important to you? ] (]) 18:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::I enjoy editing and creating articles, it's that simple really. ] (]) 18:04, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::To expand on that, creating something that anyone in the world can access for free, well who wouldn't want to be allowed to do that? ] (]) 18:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{tpw|v}} <small>It's certainly ironic, considering the number of editors we have whose ''very successful'' wiki-careers are built around everything ''but'' content creation. Hey ho. ] 19:54, 6 March 2022 (UTC)</small> | |||
| :::Admittedly, I'm biased. But, assuming that there aren't any red flags (socks), I'd support allowing DS to edit again. Agree that DS is aggressive and often (apologies, DS) sloppy in their haste to add content. But they have added a lot of useful content to Misplaced Pages and I consider DS a net positive. I should also mention DS's ability to identify nangparbat socks is unparalleled. --] <small>(])</small> 20:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::::A Checkuser was recently run on my account, hilly Billy Holiday socked with a similar sounding username. I have no other accounts and have not edited since my ban. ] (]) 21:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| *Copied to ]. --] <small>(])</small> 22:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| {{ping|User:Future Perfect at Sunrise}} FPaS, I have never been topic banned from Eastern Europe or US politics. My original account is banned from climate change articles, this one from India/Pakistan ] (]) 07:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| : You were banned from EE in October 2011 under your "The Last Angry Man" sock account. (But yes, the other one was nominally "climate change", of course, "US politics" as such didn't exist as a discretionary sanctions area back in those days, but it was essentially the same thing anyway.) ] ] 08:34, 7 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'd forgotten about that, but then it was in 2011 and only for three months, I had to search the archives to refresh my memory. I still don't recall ever being banned from editing American politics though, it's not usually my subject area. ] (]) 09:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| I've now as no consensus. It hadn't been edited in almost a week, and it was generally pretty split, sorry for the wait. ]<sup>]🏝️]</sup> 18:30, 20 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :Fair enough, I'll try again next year. Thanks to all those who took time out to voice their opinions. ] (]) 19:22, 20 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| {{User QAIbox/auto|years=Eight}} | |||
| == Precious anniversary == | |||
| same, I think Misplaced Pages would be better with you than without --] (]) 06:27, 15 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you Gerda, perhaps next year I'll be allowed back. ] (]) 18:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 11:17, 6 May 2024
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Banned
Per the discussion at ANI, and I hate having to do this, but you are hereby subject to the following:
Darkness Shines (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from editing Misplaced Pages. They may appeal the ban either to the community or to ArbCom no sooner than after 6 months from the ban, or 6 months from their last sockpuppeting, whichever comes later.
Good luck.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Where was the socking? I didn’t see it posted in the discussion. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:48, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr Ernie: Although it wasn't mentioned in the discussion afaik, sockpuppetry was the reason for DS's first indef, per this admission. An SPI can be found here... not to mention this comment made about a month ago. (talk page stalker) SkyWarrior 03:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
No worries Darkness Shines (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Do me a favour, DS. Don't sock from now on. Your style is very obvious and it won't do you or the project any favours. The sad thing is, you've usually been correct in what you've tried to do with articles but you react even worse than me when you get frustrated with the idiots etc. This can be a frustrating place because it is biassed in many systemic ways but you won't change anything if you can't take part.
- Bide your time, perhaps spend it doing some research, and if/when you do decide to return perhaps start on some surely uncontroversial issues where the pov-pushers are unlikely to have an interest. I vaguely recall you helping me many years ago in trying to clean up a fairly marginal notability/promotional article about a herd of pedigree cows - surely even the SJWs or whatever cannot find harm in that sort of thing? - Sitush (talk) 00:36, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Some sort of open sockpuppetry? A new trend on Misplaced Pages? -AsceticRosé 04:45, 22 February 2018 (UTC).
- +1 to what Sitush said. You've done good work here, and could continue to do, but only if you wait out the terms of this ban. Do some research, prepare some things you'd like to write, go on holiday, learn Spanish, whatever. Don't sock; you'll be discovered and blocked in no time, the appeal period will be reset, and anything you've written is likely to be reverted with no regard for its quality. To be clear, I'm not saying socking would be justified if it went undiscovered, not at all. I'm saying it won't do you any good to try. Vanamonde (talk) 06:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- +2. I think I came up with a nice way to keep useful idiots like you within the system but it looks like we have a preference for polite POV pushers. C'est la vie. --regentspark (comment) 23:56, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Some sort of open sockpuppetry? A new trend on Misplaced Pages? -AsceticRosé 04:45, 22 February 2018 (UTC).
Asked Arbcom if there were any chance of being unblocked, they have said no and ask again in a year, as I can't see that happening this is the end, thanks to all. Darkness Shines (talk) 07:24, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- So long, DS. Future is future. Who knows what it will bring? Let us hope for better times! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Farewell - we wish you the very best of luck of your future careers.
JG
Malmsimp (talk) 09:10, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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| Seven years! |
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miss you ... today is the birthday of Claudio Monteverdi and Hans Herbert Jöris, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
miss you still --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Checkuser
I noticed I have been accused of socking, I have not been and am logging in and posting so CU have recent date. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:29, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, that was me, sorry. 17:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC) ( hillbillyholiday at gmail dot com ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharknɘss Dinɘs (talk • contribs)
- I know, I saw your post on Wikipediocracy, please stop making up usernames which sound like mine. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
your situation
It is now three years since you applied to ArbCom for a release of your ban. As you know,Have you given thought to applying again? I have no authority to undo thr ban, (as you know), but i do recall a number of positive interactions between us, and would be hapy to support any application that you might choose to make. ----Anthony Bradbury 20:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Anthony Bradbury:, I requested a review of the ban in March which the arbitration committee has declined. They have said I must wait a further twelve months before another appeal can be made, I appreciate the support but the only options are Arbcom, who have refused twice, an appeal to the community who for the most part voted to ban me. Perhaps one day I will be allowed back to the project. Take care. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Nice to hear you whatever you say. Arbcom ... - flowers and food if you like --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Request to the community
It has now been four years since the community voted to ban me from Misplaced Pages. For the last two years I requested of the arbitration committee that I be allowed to edit again. However given it was Wikipedias editors who decided I had become a net negative, I believe it is those editors who I ought to need to appeal to. I fully admit to being short of temper, frequently drunk, and quite often profane to the extreme. But that was four years ago, and I have changed for the better. I no longer drink to excess . I am far calmer and not prone to losing my temper as I used to, perhaps because I drink far less, or maybe I've just gotten calmer with age. So I'm asking the community if they would allow me the privilege of editing again, should anyone have questions for me please feel free to post here. If someone would be so kind as to copy paste this to where a majority of editors will see it I'd be grateful. Thanks ¬¬¬¬
- I have one, why is this so important to you? Slatersteven (talk) 18:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- I enjoy editing and creating articles, it's that simple really. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:04, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- To expand on that, creating something that anyone in the world can access for free, well who wouldn't want to be allowed to do that? Darkness Shines (talk) 18:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- (watching) It's certainly ironic, considering the number of editors we have whose very successful wiki-careers are built around everything but content creation. Hey ho. SN54129 19:54, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Admittedly, I'm biased. But, assuming that there aren't any red flags (socks), I'd support allowing DS to edit again. Agree that DS is aggressive and often (apologies, DS) sloppy in their haste to add content. But they have added a lot of useful content to Misplaced Pages and I consider DS a net positive. I should also mention DS's ability to identify nangparbat socks is unparalleled. --RegentsPark (comment) 20:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- A Checkuser was recently run on my account, hilly Billy Holiday socked with a similar sounding username. I have no other accounts and have not edited since my ban. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Admittedly, I'm biased. But, assuming that there aren't any red flags (socks), I'd support allowing DS to edit again. Agree that DS is aggressive and often (apologies, DS) sloppy in their haste to add content. But they have added a lot of useful content to Misplaced Pages and I consider DS a net positive. I should also mention DS's ability to identify nangparbat socks is unparalleled. --RegentsPark (comment) 20:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Copied to WP:AN. --RegentsPark (comment) 22:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
@Future Perfect at Sunrise: FPaS, I have never been topic banned from Eastern Europe or US politics. My original account is banned from climate change articles, this one from India/Pakistan Darkness Shines (talk) 07:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- You were banned from EE in October 2011 under your "The Last Angry Man" sock account. (But yes, the other one was nominally "climate change", of course, "US politics" as such didn't exist as a discretionary sanctions area back in those days, but it was essentially the same thing anyway.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:34, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'd forgotten about that, but then it was in 2011 and only for three months, I had to search the archives to refresh my memory. I still don't recall ever being banned from editing American politics though, it's not usually my subject area. Darkness Shines (talk) 09:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I've now closed the discussion as no consensus. It hadn't been edited in almost a week, and it was generally pretty split, sorry for the wait. Moneytrees 18:30, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I'll try again next year. Thanks to all those who took time out to voice their opinions. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:22, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
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Precious anniversary
same, I think Misplaced Pages would be better with you than without --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Gerda, perhaps next year I'll be allowed back. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)