User talk:Bencherlite: Difference between revisions

Browse history interactively ← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisual WikitextInline

Revision as of 01:26, 13 February 2014 editHectorMoffet (talk \| contribs)8,679 edits →That really wasn't trying to be disruptive: okay, this should be the last you hear of me, unless you want to try to edit war over giving me my last edit.← Previous edit		Latest revision as of 17:38, 7 November 2024 edit undoBlasterOfHouses (talk \| contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, IP block exemptions14,618 edits Notifying user about Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 7#Category:Buildings and structures by decade of destruction (via MassXfD.js)
Line 1:		Line 1:
			{{Not around\|\|\|January 2018}}
	<!--User:CSDWarnBot-->
			]
	{{administrator}}
			==Merry Christmas!==
	{{Usertalkpage}}
			{\| style="border:1px solid 3px; background-color: {{{color\|#fdffe7}}}; padding: 5px;"
	{{archives\|search=yes}}
			\|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: center; height: 1.1em;" \| '''A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!'''
	{{User:MiszaBot/config
			\|rowspan="2" valign="centre" padding: 5px;" \| ]
	\|maxarchivesize = 50K
			\|-
	\|counter = 23
			\|style="vertical-align:top; border-top:1px solid gray"\|
	\|minthreadsleft = 0
			<br />
	\|algo = old(7d)
			<big><big>May 2019 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!</big></big>
	\|archive = User talk:Bencherlite/Archive %(counter)d
			<br />
	}}
			<br />
	{{ambox\|text=Ever wondered who chooses which article is going to be "]" (TFA) on the main page? Well – with the assistance of the community at ], that'd be me as "TFA coordinator". If you have a query about a TFA that has already been picked, please ask away; if you have a query about a TFA that you'd like to be picked, or the ], I'll do my best to help. I have limited time and ability to edit Misplaced Pages at weekends, so for anything urgent that's TFA-related you'll need to go somewhere else, such as ] or ].}}
			<big><big>All the best</big></big>
			<br />
			<br />
			<big><big>Gavin / ] (]) 21:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)</big></big>
			\|}

			== TFL notification ==
	== Replied to your FLC comments ==

			Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that ] – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as ] for March 4. The TFL blurb can be seen ]. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at ]. Regards, ] (]) 22:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
	Thank you for participating in the FLC at ].

			== Precious anniversary ==
	I agreed with your helpful suggestions, and so I've directly implemented them on the page.
			{{User QAIbox/auto\|years=Eight}}

			miss you --] (]) 06:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
	I noted as such back at the FLC discussion at ].

			Thank you today for the 2012 article, introduced: "Back in the early part of the 19th century, a British army officer who had served in India left a small fortune to the University of Oxford to create a professorship in Sanskrit, of all things. His plan was that the professor would help convert the heathen masses of India to Christianity by teaching Sanskrit to would-be missionaries and administrators of British India. The 1860 election (and, yes, it was a proper election, with manifestos, bitching and adverts in newspapers appealing to the 3,700 electors) was a clash of two philosophies: one candidate represented scholarship for the sake of scholarship, the other represented evangelical Christian zeal. The Times supported one, other papers backed his rival. Special trains had to be laid on to cope with the number of graduates returning to cast their ballot. The defeat of the better scholar in the election has been held up as an example of all that was wrong with Oxford at that time. It's a topic about which I knew nothing until I stumbled across it writing Boden Professor of Sanskrit for WP:FLC, but there's a surprising amount of material out there in contemporary sources and modern analyses."! - Miss you, especially your knowledge about English church music. --] (]) 07:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
	I see that I had successfully responded to comments at that same discussion by {{u\|DragonZero}}, who changed his position to "Tentative Support" (), contingent upon your response to my response to your suggestions. :)

			== Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago ==
	I think the list page looks much better now, thanks to your helpful recommendations.
			{{User QAIbox

			\| title = Awesome
	Perhaps you could have another look?
			\| image = Cscr-featured.svg

			\| image_upright = 0.35
	Thanks again,
			\| bold = ]

			}}
	— ''']''' (]) 05:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
			Miss you. We would have ]. --] (]) 07:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
	:Understood. I've asked {{u\|DragonZero}} instead to look over my responses to your helpful suggestions and see if my actions are satisfactory. Cheers, — ''']''' (]) 18:28, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

	== FYI heads up ==

			== TFL notification – June 2020 ==
	Please see .

			Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that ] – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as ] for June 1. The TFL blurb can be seen ]. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at ]. Regards, ] (]) 02:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
	I made a good faith effort here to get through to this user.

			== Missing ==
	I tried! :)

			Hi. You are now ]. Should you ever return or choose not to be listed, you are welcome to remove your name. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">] (])</span> 14:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
	Cheers, — ''']''' (]) 17:56, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
			<!-- ##RW UNDERDATE## -->
			<div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center">]<span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:125%;">Removal from member list</span>]
			You have been inactive for more than 6 months and have been removed from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee ]. If you become active again please feel free to re-add yourself.

			Best wishes, <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">] (])</span> 14:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
	==Fuck==
			</div>

			== TFL notification – August 2021 ==
	Seems the TFA/R discussion was longer than the article...by a factor of just over two.--] (]) 00:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:The TFAR discussion also used the f-word almost exactly as many times as the article (excluding references etc). Not sure what that tells us either... ]] 00:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:: I think the TFAR discussion used the f-bomb just about as many times as ''The Wolf of Wall Street''...obscenity is the crutch of an inarticulate asshole, and ever-incorrigible wikipedians have a fuckin' problem. ;)--] (]) 03:52, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:: I think I'm responsible for about 50 of them.--] (]) 03:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:::Thanks very much, {{u\|Bencherlite}}, for your most detailed and well-written closing statement. Most appreciated, — ''']''' (]) 04:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that ] – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as ] for August 23. The TFL blurb can be seen ]. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at ]. Regards, ] (]) 15:53, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
	== TFAR blurb length ==
			==] has been nominated for merging==

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 13:06, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
	Re: "total length of blurb when previewed (including spaces) as close as possible to 1,200 characters maximum." I added 550 words, so is this inaccurate? ] <sup>(]\|])</sup> 17:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	Nevermind. I see now that its ''characters'', but how do I count them? ] <sup>(]\|])</sup> 17:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:Copy the on-screen display (not the wiki-code) and paste it into a word-processing program that has a tool allowing you to count words/characters. In my copy of MS Word, for example, it's the "word count" button on the "review bar". ]] 18:00, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:: Thanks. Does the blurb look OK now? ] <sup>(]\|])</sup> 18:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:::Yep, it's fine. ]] 18:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			== ] ==
	== Because I'm a PITA sometimes.... ==

			This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as ] for December 6, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at ]. Congratulations on your work!—] (]) 16:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
	May I suggest that ] and ] run at some point? (For that matter, I really should get off my behind on ]...) ] - ] 18:00, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			==] has been nominated for deletion==
	:OK, but who are you and what have you done to the real Ealdgyth...? ]] 18:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 19:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
	:: LOL. ] - ] 18:04, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
			==] nomination of ]==
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	:::Would the real Ealdgyth use "PITA" or "LOL"? Any particular dates in mind for the NC article? ]] 18:11, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> ]] 20:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
	:::: None, actually. I was just yanking your chain. You might note what all three of those articles share (or a lack they share...) ... ] - ] 18:20, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			== TFL notification – February 2022 ==
	:::::The word "fuck"? I bet there was a lot of swearing during the Norman Conquest... "Oh fuck, there's an arrow coming towards my eye!" "That's not an arrow, that's a collapsed infobox!" ]] 18:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that ] – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as ] for February 11. The TFL blurb can be seen ]. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at ]. Regards, ] (]) 22:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
	:::::: I never thought to use infoboxen as projectile weapons... (And I have to say .. I'm glad ] has already been on the main page - it's been interesting on the talk page for the last few months. I'm about to start revamping ] for the Core Contest - I gotta be insane.... or maybe space aliens invaded my brain?) ] - ] 18:50, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
			== Nomination for deletion of ] ==
			]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> ] (]) 20:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
			==] nomination of ]==
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	:::::::Make sure you cover the Bulgarian angle. ]] 19:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> ] (]) 02:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
	:::::::: It'd only take me 10 or so hours to get to London... ] - ] 19:16, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
			==] nomination of ]==
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	::::::::: Please do - I suspect you'd get on very well with my medieval historian wife! It's been a while since academic conferences have taken us to the US, but hopefully we can find an excuse in a few years when the boys are bigger. ]] 19:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 20:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
	== TFA blurb text ==
			==] nomination of ]==
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	Please see ].

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 20:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
	Thank you,

			== List of Best-Selling Music Artists ==
	— ''']''' (]) 21:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	:I gave an example of a , I'd like to discuss other changes at the TFA talk page, please? :) — ''']''' (]) 21:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
	::Okay, {{u\|Bencherlite}}, I replied to your email. — ''']''' (]) 21:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

			Hey, could I ask for your input in the ] of the List of Best-Selling Music Artists? It seems like there are a lot of pretty fundamental issues with the list, and you had commented on some of them when it failed to become a featured list candidate. I would like your input, because I'm not a very experienced editor, and I don't really know how to proceed.
	== Discussion of your actions ==

			Thanks. ] (]) 09:04, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
	I'm just letting you know that this has occurred at ]. —] 15:10, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
			==] has been nominated for deletion==
	:Thank you. I don't think I need to add to what you and {{u\|Crisco 1492}} have already said; my thanks to you both. ]] 15:30, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 00:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
	==]==
			==] has been nominated for merging==
	As you were kind enough to add some comments on this article at its PR, you are invited to do likewise at its FAC, now open. ] (]) 18:01, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 08:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
	==That really wasn't trying to be disruptive==
			==] nomination of ]==
	My last edit really was a good faith attempt to improve the template. At least two people have failed to read the instructions properly, myself being one of them, and both of us wound up resigning over it.
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	It's your page. if you didn't find the edit helpful, of course you should revert it. But going forward, you're going to want to think about how to make those instructions clearer to outsiders. Going forward, you're going to want to think about a lot of things, I expect, with all that's been put on your shoulders in the last year since raul's job fell to you. A lot of people say some horrible thing about you, Bench, but nobody doubts you carry a job that takes a LOT out of a person. I don't know much about anything, but I know the attrition rate for coordinators is pretty hellish and you outlasted them all, so probs to you for that. Your friend Four Tildes ] (]) 22:22, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 02:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
	:Funnily enough:
			== Nomination for deletion of ] ==
	# There are scores of people with many more edits to the TFA page than you, and I've never heard one of them say "Do you know what would make the instructions clearer? Putting Bencherlite's role in big, big letters between horizontal lines." You were obviously making a point, given your earlier complaints about me.
			]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> ] (]) 12:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
	# You can search the relevant page histories for the last 14.5 months since I started scheduling TFAs and I doubt you will find more than a few TFAs suggestions with supporters that I didn't schedule. On a couple of occasions, I've had to decide which of two very similar articles to run. There was the Grace Sherwood nomination, of course, and I see you've found it and plastered it all over Jimbo's talk page even though it had nothing to do with the conversation. That was a rather different situation to anything else at TFA or TFAR in the last few years, as you've been told already and as any reading of the extensive discussions would have told you. That situation certainly didn't come from any misreading of the instructions.
	# There may well be lots of people who say some horrible things about me. I also know that I have support from a lot of people whose opinions I value but who owe me no favours. I also know that there are many people who appreciate the work that I do for TFA.
	# I'm always open to constructive ideas to improve the TFA and the TFAR process, including the instructions. If you have any, please come forward with them. Or you can carry on complaining on the sidelines about how unfair it is that I said I wouldn't make an exception to the TFA rules (about no repeats for TFA) for your pet project, when lots of people were already telling you you that TFA repeats were a bad idea. Your choice. Of course, if you can persuade the community that the best interests of the TFA process are best served by having me step down, then I'll gladly hand over the reins. Your call. ]] 23:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

			== CfD nomination at {{Section link\|Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 6#Category:Alumni by university or college in the United Kingdom}} ==

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''{{Section link\|Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 6#Category:Alumni by university or college in the United Kingdom}}''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd mass notify--> Thank you. ]] 17:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
	== This is going on your permanent record ==

			== Good article reassessment for ] ==
	{{hidden top\|title=One discussion in which Bencherlite caused two editors to quit Misplaced Pages, six months apart.}}
			] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] ] 07:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
	===Well Done===
	I want to "thank you" for pushing out one of the better editors we had here, that being ]. Of course, last time he was forced out was because of a featured article and that was lead by Raul654. Now with Raul gone (I wasn't aware he had left), the same article and the TFA coordinator shove PumpkinSky back out the door.

			==] has been nominated for renaming to {{Cl\|Academic staff by medical school}}==
	PumpkinSky has shown that the ] article was not featured on TFA, so how can you say it won't be featured again when it wasn't featured in the first place? You should know that the Grace Sherwood article was a ''major'' sore spot for PumpkinSky and should have approached the subject with ''a lot'' more grace (and some research) than you did. That lack of grace and research cost Misplaced Pages yet another good editor.

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>] has been nominated for renaming to {{Cl\|Academic staff by medical school}}. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 15:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
	I was surprised when PumpkinSky came back, but I don't think he is going to this time. To be honest, I don't blame him. If I were him, I wouldn't have come back the first time after the BS plagiarism accusations and an actual witchhunt (which was very ironic considering the article).
			==] nomination of ]==
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	The loss of PumpkinSky is on you and any future lack of TFAs is also on you. The community expected a change from Raul, instead your decision showed you are just Raul II. That's not something I would want to be responsible for or a title I would want. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 22:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)</small>

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 21:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
	:The article ''was'' on TFA (check the history of ], not just the current version). As for the rest of your message, you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. I didn't force anyone out. I don't think I acted without grace or research. I simply refused to make PumpkinSky and Grace Sherwood an exception to the rule that TFAs are not repeated, for reasons that I have endeavoured to explain at length elsewhere. What PumpkinSky chose to do in response to that is his decision, not mine. ]] 22:42, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
			==] has been nominated for merging==

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>] has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 01:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
	:I think the facts are being distorted here. I was involved in the first Grace Sherwood FA, and I know that the accusations of plagiarism were most certainly not BS. In fact when they first came to light I suggested to Rlevse that we ought to act quickly to sort the issue, which we could easily have done had he accepted that there was a problem that needed to be solved. ] ] 00:05, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
			==] nomination of ]==
			]

			A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
	::Thanks, Eric. I know that the fallout from the TFA for Grace Sherwood caused a lot of grief to several people, including you. To now see it claimed by PS and Neutralhomer that it was never TFA in the first place... well. ]] 00:11, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

			If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 23:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
	::That isn't accurate, everyone agrees it was briefly TFA before it was pulled, but everyone also agrees it was pulled and didn't get its full day in the sun. But I think it's best to let the past be the past on all of that; there was more going on there with Psky than the Sherwood article, so let's not pick at that scab. The problem with the article is solved now and that's the point. ]<sup>]</sup> 00:17, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
			==] has been nominated for merging==
	:::No, PS that it was on the main page (not once but twice: ). Quite why he wrote in those terms, I do not know, since he clearly knows it was on the main page, but his phrasing has clearly misled Neutralhomer, who said just a few lines above "''PumpkinSky has shown that the ] article was not featured on TFA, so how can you say it won't be featured again when it wasn't featured in the first place?''". If I am to be criticised, let's at least get the facts straight. ]] 00:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
	::::Note his phrasing, "truly" he's pointing out an inconsistency - a solid point is raised, there is no "official" acknowledgement that the article was TFA, the fact is buried in the edit history. Don't misinterpret his comment as a denial, it's a form of argument, he was there at the time, of course he knows what happened - but a basic review of the TFA archives does look like a "no." Evidence of the article being on the main page has been buried, thus, it wasn't "there" in the official eyes of Wiki. You can't really have it both ways, saying it ran as a TFA when the "official" TFAs doesn't list it due it to the pull. And, there is a precedent of running a select few TFAs twice for particularly good reasons. Therefore, I don't think the occasional bending of a rule will create a slippery slope into running, say, ] on an annual basis. ]<sup>]</sup> 02:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::::], ], ] and ] all mark it as having been on the main page, so I don't think it's fair to say that evidence has been buried or that it wasn't "there" in the official eyes of Wiki. I even wrote ] which includes this episode. The simple reason that the TFA subpage for the day doesn't list both articles is that no-one since the switch has edited the archive to mention it (obviously both could not have been included on 31st October 2010 because the subpage was transcluded to the main page, but that's not an issue now). If that's what he wanted, he could have said so; if I misunderstood him, then so did Neutralhomer. I don't know whether editing the archive would be welcome or not - would it be seen as drawing further attention to the episode, or would it simply be making the history clearer? Thoughts? ]] 08:33, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>] has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 00:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
	:::::::::Well, I'll take no position on editing the archive, though if you do it for Grace, it probably needs to be done for any/all others pulled partway through the day (is there a list? Can't be very many?) Perhaps you didn't deliberately misunderstand Psky, I'll AGF there, but the real point is that, frankly, it would have healed a lot of wounds to have done an IAR on this article, it would NOT have set a precedent (beyond the precedent already set by the Transit of Venus article and the couple other exceptions) and what has happened now is more ill will and probably another round of endless drama and criticisms of the TFA process. The best leaders know when to bend the rules a little; particularly when doing so will solve more problems than it creates. "Teh usual suspects" who hate Psky forever would have been upset, but they seriously need to drop the stick, their beef with him was three years ago, it's over, and I am certain that there is NO ONE on wiki has done more to repair any problems raised by their editing than has Psky (including active participation with one of the biggest single copyright reviews on wiki, which cleared Psky of all "crimes" other than a few minor close-pharaphrases, by the way). Wiki needs a rule of law and a common sense approach to the rules where people who make mistakes and fix them can be welcomed back to the community and their contributions valued. It's a question of justice tempered with mercy. To stretch the metaphor a bit more, it's time wiki moved from the Old Testament God of judgement model to a New Testament God of mercy and forgiveness one. (Also known as maturity). ]<sup>]</sup> 19:26, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
	{{od}}The list of articles pulled during their appearance as TFA is very short - just one other apart from Grace Sherwood - see ]. I don't see the point in repeating myself on the other points. I appreciate your position but we simply disagree and I don't think either of us restating our positions will change the other's view or be terribly helpful. ]] 19:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

			== CfD nomination at ] ==
	: (ec)But, playing devil's advocate here, if they make a special case because of the editor that requested it (rather than an actual event like the transit or the election in 2012) ... that's actually more unfair. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Who gets to decide who is important enough to merit an exception? Hell, I'd love an exception so that unless I request it, none of "my" FAs go to TFA. If we make an exception to one rule, why can't I get that exception?? Slippery slope. ] - ] 19:47, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
	::Indeed - well put (I've been trying to phrase something similar in my answers at WT:TFAR but probably not as elegantly). Once any IAR exception to the "once and only once" principle is granted purely on the basis of the history of the article and the identity of the primary author(s), as opposed to the subject matter of the article (as happened for Obama and Transit of Venus), then it is going to be unfair - well-connected editors will get lots of support for a second run, those without such connections will not and may not even try. ]] 19:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::And if Ealdgyth gets it I want it too. The Grace Sherwood situation was unfortunate, but I find the argument that she didn't have a full day on the main page and therefore deserves a rerun to be rather unconvincing. Until TFAs are at least semi-protected not having a full day on the main page seems like a blessed relief to me. ] ] 22:20, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
	::::On one hand, I will wholeheartedly join with anyone arguing in favor of semi-protection of TFA; I think it's a reasonable reform that's long overdue. (And the next time it is raised, I think anyone who has ever babysat a TFA should get their voice to count triple!) But, indeed, Bencher and I are apparently not going to agree, and as he has the "authoriteh", well, the "'cause I'm dad and I said so" argument has never carried much weight with me in 50+ years of life, but that is apparently the only one that matters. As for the rest, slippery slope reasoning is generally a ] and intellectually lazy. And Wehwalt, Ealdgyth and Eric, I love ya all and you know I respect the work you do, but the wanting a veto on a TFA is a bit off topic; you are not simply comparing apples and oranges but you're dragging in vegetables ! That said, if there are only two articles in the history of TFA that have ever been pulled from the main page during their day in the sun, then what the heck, fix 'em both and give each a half day to make up their time. I mean seriously. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::::On the contrary, I have ''not'' said "because I say so" - I have given reasons, repeatedly and in some detail, for my decision. You may not agree with them, but you cannot pretend that I have not discussed the issue at length, both here and at WT:TFAR. ]] 23:20, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

			<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd mass notice--> Thank you. <span style="white-space:nowrap">] (HouseBlaster's alt • ] • he/they)</span> 17:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::::::I agree that we have discussed the issue at length. And it seems we apparently are talking past each other on parallel tracks, however well-intentioned. We probably have fallen short of reaching a meeting of the minds. Whether it was your intention or not, I think your arguments are over-simplistic and too rigid. And, though not what I intended, apparently you have concerns that going along with my approach would unleash a mudslide of disaster down a slippery slope. So I guess all that can be done is to drop the stick. Most of the time we don't really spat this much, so onward through the fog for both of us, I guess... ]<sup>]</sup> 18:47, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::Have we ever spatted? Or perhaps ]? If we have, I don't remember it. Let's just hope we don't trip over the dropped stick in this infernal fog... (hello? hello? Are you there? <bump> Ouch!!) ]] 19:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
	:::::::::I don't think we directly have before, perhaps over the dethroning of Raul, which I favored, but I wasn't super active in that drama, more on the sidelines with popcorn, cheering on my cohorts. Yeah, bygones good with me, but I miss PumpkinSky, who is a really good egg and was a great collaborator on the ] article, a gem that was the inspiration for Gerda's "Precious" award.. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:09, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
	::::::::::Talking about ], it was inspired more by him saying Peace once a day to awesome Wikipedians for three years than the sapphire which is a symbol of it. ], --] (]) 12:05, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
	{{hidden bottom}}
	I'm late to the discussion, but I wanted to say reading this discussion led me to leave Misplaced Pages after multiple years of positive editing experiences. The TFA coordinator threated to close any nomination I made, regardless of consensus. I never made a nomination, so I assumed he was just talking. Discovering this discussion showed me the TFA coordinator really does overrule overwhelming consensus, closing a discussion in which he himself participated in, in which he himself raised the only objection, where 13 supporters dismissed his objection, and where he closed the discussion a month early while discussion was still on-going. When ] has left, it's time for me to join the others above who have left because of this disrespect. --] (]) 01:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:38, 7 November 2024

This user may have left Misplaced Pages. Bencherlite has not edited Misplaced Pages since January 2018. As a result, any requests made here may not receive a response. If you are seeking assistance, you may need to approach someone else.

Merry Christmas!

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
May 2019 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals! All the best Gavin / SchroCat (talk) 21:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

TFL notification

Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that Registrar of the University of Oxford – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 4. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Eight years!

miss you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you today for the 2012 article, introduced: "Back in the early part of the 19th century, a British army officer who had served in India left a small fortune to the University of Oxford to create a professorship in Sanskrit, of all things. His plan was that the professor would help convert the heathen masses of India to Christianity by teaching Sanskrit to would-be missionaries and administrators of British India. The 1860 election (and, yes, it was a proper election, with manifestos, bitching and adverts in newspapers appealing to the 3,700 electors) was a clash of two philosophies: one candidate represented scholarship for the sake of scholarship, the other represented evangelical Christian zeal. The Times supported one, other papers backed his rival. Special trains had to be laid on to cope with the number of graduates returning to cast their ballot. The defeat of the better scholar in the election has been held up as an example of all that was wrong with Oxford at that time. It's a topic about which I knew nothing until I stumbled across it writing Boden Professor of Sanskrit for WP:FLC, but there's a surprising amount of material out there in contemporary sources and modern analyses."! - Miss you, especially your knowledge about English church music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
Ten years!

Miss you. We would have sung much English music this year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

TFL notification – June 2020

Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that Savilian Professor of Geometry – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for June 1. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 02:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Missing

Hi. You are now listed as missing. Should you ever return or choose not to be listed, you are welcome to remove your name. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Removal from member list

You have been inactive for more than 6 months and have been removed from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee birthday list. If you become active again please feel free to re-add yourself.

Best wishes, Chris Troutman (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

TFL notification – August 2021

Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that List of County Court venues in England and Wales – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for August 23. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 15:53, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Category:French classical violists has been nominated for merging

Category:French classical violists has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 13:06, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

1860 Boden Professor of Sanskrit election

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for December 6, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 6, 2021. Congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 16:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Reggae trombonists by nationality has been nominated for deletion

Category:Reggae trombonists by nationality has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Moldovan harpists

A tag has been placed on Category:Moldovan harpists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Qwerfjkl talk 20:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

TFL notification – February 2022

Hi, Bencherlite. I'm just posting to let you know that List of alumni of Jesus College, Oxford – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for February 11. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:TFAR nompage links

Template:TFAR nompage links has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Izno (talk) 20:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Algerian jazz keyboardists

A tag has been placed on Category:Algerian jazz keyboardists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Algerian keyboardists

A tag has been placed on Category:Algerian keyboardists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Algerian jazz musicians by instrument

A tag has been placed on Category:Algerian jazz musicians by instrument indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

List of Best-Selling Music Artists

Hey, could I ask for your input in the talk section of the List of Best-Selling Music Artists? It seems like there are a lot of pretty fundamental issues with the list, and you had commented on some of them when it failed to become a featured list candidate. I would like your input, because I'm not a very experienced editor, and I don't really know how to proceed.

Thanks. Pacack (talk) 09:04, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Vibraphonists by nationality has been nominated for deletion

Category:Vibraphonists by nationality has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Why? I Ask (talk) 00:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Category:Lithuanian classical violists has been nominated for merging

Category:Lithuanian classical violists has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Estopedist1 (talk) 08:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:WikiProject Law (England and Wales) articles

A tag has been placed on Category:WikiProject Law (England and Wales) articles indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 02:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Law/portalbox

Template:WikiProject Law/portalbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 12:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 6 § Category:Alumni by university or college in the United Kingdom

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 6 § Category:Alumni by university or college in the United Kingdom on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Qwerfjkl talk 17:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Guto Puw

Guto Puw has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 07:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Faculty by medical school has been nominated for renaming to Category:Academic staff by medical school

Category:Faculty by medical school has been nominated for renaming to Category:Academic staff by medical school. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 15:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Misplaced Pages featured topics Alexandra Stan studio albums

A tag has been placed on Category:Misplaced Pages featured topics Alexandra Stan studio albums indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 21:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Gibraltarian classical musicians by instrument has been nominated for merging

Category:Gibraltarian classical musicians by instrument has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Jamaican jazz double-bassists

A tag has been placed on Category:Jamaican jazz double-bassists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 23:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Classical accordionists by nationality has been nominated for merging

Category:Classical accordionists by nationality has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 7 § Category:Buildings and structures by decade of destruction

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 7 § Category:Buildings and structures by decade of destruction on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 17:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Categories: